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tctitans Posted - 02/26/2007 : 16:51:47
The Canucks just traded for Smolinski and Sopel. They were able to do this
under the cap by finally putting Kesler on IR.

Does anyone know why they waited so long to put him on IR?

My guess would be that it makes no difference to them of what they have to pay,
it's just an 'on the books' issue under the salary cap, and no need to do it until
they need to free up the cap room. Perhaps they were waiting ot see if Ryan
could come back earlier...

Anyone know the fine-print wrt IR ?
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Ryan Harper Posted - 02/27/2007 : 14:00:42
even though Kesler is in my doghouse, he will look good on the 3rd line with Naslund and Smolinski. Well, at least better than Bulis would.

"Some people skate to the puck. I skate to where the puck is going to be."
~Wayne Gretzky
ultimatetitman Posted - 02/27/2007 : 13:50:14
Awesome Beans!

What should be added is that Kessler is free to rejoin the team for the playoffs - if he is healthy of course - as salaries are not paid for the playoff games.
the hockey guy Posted - 02/27/2007 : 13:28:38
Wow. Very informative info
tctitans Posted - 02/26/2007 : 17:15:27
Great! Thanks Beans!
Beans15 Posted - 02/26/2007 : 17:05:51
This is what I found on it. Makes more sense now. Basically, by putting Kelser on the long term IR they are using Sopel and Smolinski as replacement players. They can not use Kesler again until they are at or under the cap including his salary.

LONG-TERM INJURIES

A player is considered to have a bona-fide long-term injury if, in the opinion of the team, the player has an injury which will cause him to miss at least 10 games and 24 days. Even in such cases, the player's salary will continue to count against the team's Upper Limit. This is mentioned at least three times in the CBA, and is repeated in Article 50.10(a):
All Player Salary and Bonuses paid to Players on an NHL Active Roster, Injured Reserve or Non Roster that are Unfit to Play – being either injured or suffering from an illness – shall be counted against a Club's Upper Limit, Actual Club Salary and Averaged Club Salary, as well as against the Players' Share.

For players with an LTI, the team is allowed to exceed the cap by up to the amount of the injured player's salary with as many replacement players as needed, provided that when the injured player is activated the team comes into compliance with the cap immediately. The team does not get to automatically tack on the amount of the injured player's salary to the Upper Limit - an example as illustrated in Article 50.10(d) of the new CBA (reported in several places) illustrates this point:

(a) Illustration: A Player with a Player Salary of $1.5 million becomes unfit to play for more than 24 days and 10 games. At the time the Player becomes unfit to play, the Club has an Averaged Club Salary of $39.5 million, and the Upper Limit is $40 million. The Club may replace the unfit-to-play Player with another Player of Players with an aggregate Player Salary and Bonuses of up to $1.5 million. The first $500,000 of such replacement salary and bonuses shall count toward the Club's Average Club Salary, bringing the Averaged Club Salary to the Upper Limit. The Club may then exceed the Upper Limit by up to another $1 million as a result of the replacement salary and bonuses. However, if the unfit-to-play Player once again becomes fit to play, and the Club has not otherwise created any Payroll Room during the interim period, then the Player shall not be permitted to rejoin the Club until such time as the Club reduces its Averaged Club Salary to below the Upper Limit.

So - just because a player has a long-term injury does not automatically grant the team extra cap space. A team with a payroll of $33 million that has a player making $4 million get injured doesn't gain any extra cap space as a result; a team at $37 million and a player at $4 million only gains $2 million (all pro-rated, of course). Relief toward the salary cap only comes if replacing an injured player's salary would push the team over the cap, and the amount of relief is limited to the amount the team would go over the cap - not the entire amount of the injured player's salary.



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