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| Alex116 |
Posted - 06/22/2011 : 16:54:41
**PLEASE NOTE........ IF you plan on watching the awards tonight, stop reading now as there are winners listed in the following........***
Not sure how many people are getting to see this live (prob most easterners?) but out west here, it was a 4pm start and they're not televising it till 8pm for some reason??? I was looking for the early feed to PVR it and watch it when i got home but couldn't find it except for the Ottawa station which i don't subscribe to?
What's wrong with this world? My wife seems to have no problem getting the early feed on "Jersey Shores" and "The Bachelorette", yet i can't get the darn NHL awards??? 
Just read that Lidstrom won the Norris which comes as a big shock to me! Well, a big shock isn't really accurate i guess but imo, he's won it on reputation this season. I have to wonder how many voters figured this was it, he was gonna hang'em up and voted for him partially because of that? I know he's still a helluva dman and had a great offensive year, but he was a -2 on a pretty darn good team. Weber got burned as far as i'm concerned.
Others winner, which were not surprising to me was Kesler for the Selke and Bylsma for the Jack Adams. More awards to come. |
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| Utemin |
Posted - 06/24/2011 : 18:45:40
Can't argue with any of the winners all are well deserved.
Buck Foston
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| 99pickles |
Posted - 06/23/2011 : 13:27:31
I love combing through the voting breakdowns every year because it is just sooo darn interesting!!
Here are some observations:
Norris: I agree with Beans that Lidstrom earned this. Simply look at the stats. But boy was it close!!! Only 9 voting points separating them - that's less than the value of 1 single first place vote! Or it's the combined value of a 5th, a 4th and a 3rd place vote.
Here's the surprising part: Lidstrom received 117 total votes, while Weber received 99 total votes. This means that at least 18 voters left Weber off of their Top Five altogether! A little surprising to say the least. For the record, Chara was included on 111 ballots, and 4th place Visnovsky was on 113 Top 5 Lists.
Also, Matt Carle and Chris Pronger both received a 2nd place vote, while Philadelphia had the defenders represented (3) with Meszaros receiving a 5th place vote in there somewhere.
Only 20 different players received votes at all.
Would very many of us here list Matt Carle in our personal Top 20 D-men of the entire season, let alone a runner up vote?
Hart: Winner Corey Perry was included on 124 ballots altogether, whilst 121 had Daniel Sedin in their Top 5. This means at least 3 voters left Daniel off of their Top 5 ballot altogether. Sedin's Canucks finished a full 10 points ahead of the 2nd place Washington Capitals and Perry's Ducks finished tied for 9th in the league with Phoenix and Nashville, 4 pts ahead of non-playoff qualifying Dallas Stars.
Also, Sidney Crosby received a 3rd place vote and Alex Ovechkin didn't receive any top 3 votes at all.
Vezina: Only 10 different goalies received "Top 3" considerations on the 30 GM's ballots. Astonishingly, Tim Thomas was left off of 4 ballots altogether as was Pekka Rinne (both received 26 total votes). No-one else was even close to these 2 as Luongo was only on 13 total ballots (three 1st place votes) and Lundqvist was only on 9 total ballots.
Calder: Surprisingly, 3 voters had John Carlsson as the best rookie while at least 1 voter left Skinner out of the top 5 altogether! Wow!
Jack Adams: The strangest thing here is that 17 different coaches received voting points while there are only 30 teams in the league. 9 different coaches received a first place nod.
Also, judging by the total number of votes, there were 70 voting members of the NHL Broadcaster's Association.
Lady Byng: 61 different players received votes which is no surprise as the criteria of this award isn't as obvious or clear cut as others. It also seems at times that some years this award is used as a pat on the back for other reasons other than it's apparent intended purpose. Furthermore, it could be argued that this award is open to some "homerism" as the voters regularly see their hometown players much more often than any other teams thus leaving them open to believe moreso in the gentlemanly conduct of all of their own players.
A quick glance shows at least 3 goalies receiving votes (James Reimer actually finished 22nd among the 61 players noted!). Also, there are a few players listed that missed significant time as well.
And finally, Trevor Lewis received a Lady Byng vote in there?? If the award is defined as going to the player that shows the "best type of sportsmanship and gentlemanly conduct combined with a high standard of playing ability" , then why did this first year player (rookie, therefore) not receive at least one single Calder vote from the very PHWA member that gave him this vote???
Yes, voters use this award to reward in other ways, don't they??
It would be funny if there was a voting stipulation somewhere stating that to vote for a rookie in Byng voting means that same writer had to have an equal vote for that same player in Calder voting as well.
Selke: 63 different players receiving votes. Biggest surprise? Grabner getting a 1st place vote! Again, that voter better have voted Grabner 1st in Calder considerations as well. |
| Guest4312 |
Posted - 06/23/2011 : 10:29:36
i know it is absurd to even suggest ... but here it goes:
sidney crosby didn't deserve to win the mvp trophy but he was the most valuable player in the league... or maybe it was steckel/hedman for taking him out |
| Guest8149 |
Posted - 06/23/2011 : 10:19:53
Slozo - you make some good points, but just like in law, there's the details in the agreement, and the spirit of the agreement.
Same thing when voting for the league's MVP. I know the definition too (just like the hockey writers who vote), and I'm more in line with their thinking, not yours.
Aside from the two voters who selected Price for the Hart (I suspect both voters reside in Montreal), you stand alone with your selection.
No disrespect. In fact, I understand your logic, and it doesn't matter if everyone (or nearly everyone) who has earned a vote disagrees with you. This is an opinion site, and everyone's opinion should be respected. |
| Oilearl |
Posted - 06/23/2011 : 07:37:47
Lidstrom was the winner this year because he had a Norris winning season period. Age doesn't come in to play IMO.Weber was good but not better than Liddy!
He belongs in the company that 7 wins places him full value! |
| Guest2712 |
Posted - 06/23/2011 : 05:15:52
quote:
Originally posted by willus3
Just a weak year for awards in general. Perry wins the Hart? Geez!
you make it sound like Perry didn't deserve to win. he has the stats to back it up, and was probably the main reason Anaheim finished 4th in the West. take him away from that team and the Ducks aren't nearly as good. probably don't even make the playoffs. |
| n/a |
Posted - 06/23/2011 : 04:46:33
First off, Guest 1489? You must have a different definition of MVP - MOST VALUABLE PLAYER - than I do to make the outrageous statement you did about the players you listed getting one vote.
Personally, if I was voting, and going by the NHL criteria, I would have voted 1) Price, then 2) Thomas and then St. Louis in third.
I do not like Montreal. I'd prefer if there was no hockey team in Tampa Bay. I could care less about Boston. That's just the way I would have voted, as a thinking, logical fan.
I actually think it's a bit bogus, the MVP award, in that any position player can win it . . . because realistically, it should be a goalie almost every year, as they have by far the greatest influence on games. Absent a totally dominant year by a superstar forward (say, if Crosby had played the whole year and won the scoring race by 50 points), it really should be a goalie every year who wins this.
Jack Adams
They got it right, and unfortunately for Barry Trotz, Bylsma deserved it this year with absolutely outstanding coaching to keep Pittsburgh in relatively the same position missing the premier player in the league, and a top 5 talent in the league. It was a virtuoso performance.
Vezina
I would have voted Price myself, without placing too much emphasis on the record save percentage Thomas posted. Simply because of Rask last year - an average goalie at best, IMHO - not being that far off. That being said, it would have been real close for me, so no big deal for Thomas to win it over Price, but I thought it should have been closer voting between the two, with Lundqvist right behind, in almost a three way tie. Instead, they had Rinne up there - playing behind a great defence, a stifling trap system. Rinne is a good goalie, don't get me wrong - but not as good as any of the above mentioned, sorry.
Calder
I would have had a dead heat between Subban and Skinner, myself, with Skinner perhaps winning in the end. Instead, as usual, the d-man gets left in the dust. Such is the way, but I am not unhappy with the result here.
Norris
I am not going to repeat myself too much, but Chara should not have been even included in the top three, and Weber should have won. Lidstrom won this on reputation, agree with WIllus. He had a very fine season for an old man, and kudos for that - so just give him the Lady Byng and be done with it. Instead, you steal the award from the top d-man of the year, and that's just wrong.
Selke
Not a bad result, but really, it should have been much closer to a three way tie here - all are very deserving.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
| nuxfan |
Posted - 06/22/2011 : 22:25:33
I'm surprised at how handily Kesler won the Selke - 2.5x more 1st place votes than Toews. I thought he'd win it, but I thought it would be closer, the two had very comparable years.
I was also surprised to see that John Carlson got more 1st place votes than Subban for the Calder. And Reimer with 3 votes, really? He played less than half the season!
Norris trophy voting was very close for the top 3. |
| Guest8149 |
Posted - 06/22/2011 : 22:17:08
According to the stats, the following players had one vote as the league's MVP:
Martin St. Louis
Pekka Rinne
Roberto Luongo
Marc-Andre Fleury
Tim Thomas
Carey Price had two votes for the Hart, and the bulk of the remaining votes went to Corey Perry (67 votes) and Daniel Sedin (51 votes). Interestingly, last year's Hart winner (Henrik Sedin) did not muster a single vote as the league's MVP. Henrik finished in 10th place in voting for the Hart, which is amazing because the twins (as per usual) had almost identical seasons in value to their team.
Getting back to the players who each received one single vote as the league's MVP, I would be very interested to see where the respective voters resided. I'm guessing that the voters who selected Fleury, Rinne, and Kesler are from the cities where these players play, and the same with Carey Price who garnered two votes as the league's MVP.
Don't get me wrong. These four players are all valuable to their respective teams, but really, are they the most valuable players in the league? I could easily pick 30-40 players more valuable, and as far as Carey Price goes, I would not rate him as one of the top 5 goalies in the NHL, let alone overall players.
Good job getting the stats Willus, but I would really like to see who (of the 126 privileged voters) is picking who!
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| Alex116 |
Posted - 06/22/2011 : 22:07:21
Some real strange (see: wasted) votes really. The Selke wasn't all that close, but someone voted Grabner with their 1st place vote? Really? With Frans Nielsen on the same team?
The Vezina, voted on by the 30 GM's (not sure if a GM is allowed to vote for his own goalie?) was deservedly won by Tim Thomas, but how in the world can he only have 26 total votes? Did 4 GM's really not have a record setting goalie in their top 3???
There's lots of other examples, but those two stood out to me. I wonder what difference it would make if they voted like they do during voting for Olympic Host cities whereby the elimate some in a series of rounds, then get down to a final 3? What i mean is, take the voting as it was, then take the 3 nominees and have all voters vote again, for one of the final 3, meaning some guy who chose Grabner would actually have to revote for one of the top 3 guys? |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 06/22/2011 : 21:54:05
Breakdown of voting here: http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/How-Corey-Perry-won-the-Hart-and-other-revealing;_ylt=AjgjNJzApNe3bRSrMPwlnBpShgM6?urn=nhl-wp7746 |
| willus3 |
Posted - 06/22/2011 : 21:06:59
Selke Trophy Voting
# Player Team PTS 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th
1 Ryan Kesler VAN 1179 104 14 5 2 0
2 Jonathan Toews CHI 476 5 36 24 15 9
3 Pavel Datsyuk DET 348 4 22 22 12 8
4 Patrice Bergeron BOS 296 3 18 21 9 8
5 Manny Malholtra VAN 229 6 10 10 14 7
6 Frans Nielsen NYI 97 0 3 8 6 11
7 David Backes STL 88 1 2 6 9 7
8 Mike Richards PHI 83 1 2 4 11 6
9 Anze Kopitar LA 55 0 2 4 5 6
10 Ryan Callahan NYR 51 0 1 5 5 4
11 Brooks Laich WAS 36 0 1 2 4 7
12 Henrik Zetterberg DET 33 0 2 2 2 3
13 Tomas Plekanec MTL 29 0 1 1 3 8
14 Claude Giroux PHI 25 1 0 1 3 1
15 Jordan Staal PIT 25 0 2 2 0 1
15 Brad Richards DAL 15 1 0 2 1 2
17 Pascal Dupuis PIT 14 0 2 0 0 0
18 Brandon Prust NYR 14 0 1 0 2 1
19 Martin St. Louis TB 12 0 1 1 0 0
20 Michael Grabner NYI 10 1 0 0 0 1
21 Corey Perry ANA 10 0 1 0 1 0
22 Vernon Fiddler PHX 10 0 0 0 3 1
22 Henrik Sedin VAN 9 0 0 1 1 1
24 Dave Bolland CHI 8 0 0 0 3 0
25 Alex Burrows VAN 8 0 1 0 0 1
25 Brad Marchand BOS 8 0 1 0 0 1
25 Travis Zajac NJ 8 0 1 0 0 1
28 Jeff Carter PHI 8 0 0 1 1 0
26 Darren Helm DET 8 0 0 1 0 3
30 Joe Pavelski SJ 8 0 0 0 2 2
30 Brian Boyle NYR 7 0 1 0 0 0
32 Brian Gionta MTL 7 0 1 0 0 0
32 Eric Staal CAR 7 0 0 1 0 2
32 Paul Gaustad BUF 6 0 0 1 0 1
32 Daniel Sedin VAN 6 0 0 1 0 1
32 Ville Leino PHI 5 0 0 1 0 0
37 Logan Couture SJ 5 0 0 0 1 2
37 Joe Thornton SJ 5 0 0 0 1 2
39 Loui Eriksson DAL 4 0 0 0 1 1
40 Matt Cullen MIN 3 0 0 0 1 0
40 Martin Erat NSH 3 0 0 0 1 0
40 Boyd Gordon WSH 3 0 0 0 1 0
40 Martin Hanzal PHX 3 0 0 0 1 0
40 Zenon Konopka NYI 3 0 0 0 1 0
40 Lauri Korpikoski PHX 3 0 0 0 1 0
40 Milan Lucic BOS 3 0 0 0 1 0
40 Teemu Selanne ANA 3 0 0 0 1 0
40 Patrick Sharp CHI 3 0 0 0 1 0
40 Jerred Smithson NSH 3 0 0 0 1 0
50 David Legwand NSH 3 0 0 0 0 3
51 Craig Adams PIT 2 0 0 0 0 2
51 Dustin Brown LA 2 0 0 0 0 2
53 Nicklas Backstrom WSH 1 0 0 0 0 1
53 Mike Fisher NSH 1 0 0 0 0 1
53 Ryan Getzlaf ANA 1 0 0 0 0 1
53 Jeff Halpern MTL 1 0 0 0 0 1
53 Michal Handzus LA 1 0 0 0 0 1
53 Mikko Koivu MIN 1 0 0 0 0 1
53 Patrick Marleau SJ 1 0 0 0 0 1
53 Brendan Morrison CGY 1 0 0 0 0 1
53 Brenden Morrow DAL 1 0 0 0 0 1
53 Ryan O'Reilly COL 1 0 0 0 0 1
53 Alex Steen STL 1 0 0 0 0 1
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| willus3 |
Posted - 06/22/2011 : 21:05:49
Lady Byng Trophy Voting
# Player Team PTS 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th
1 Martin St. Louis TB 994 70 33 10 4 1
2 Nicklas Lidstrom DET 464 22 15 20 10 9
3 Loui Eriksson DAL 347 9 14 18 18 15
4 Patrick Marleau SJ 241 2 11 17 16 11
5 Jonathan Toews CHI 233 4 11 12 17 5
6 Teemu Selanne ANA 163 9 6 3 3 7
7 Brad Richards DAL 148 0 6 13 10 11
8 Daniel Sedin VAN 141 3 6 11 4 2
9 Pavel Datsyuk DET 112 1 8 5 5 6
10 Anze Kopitar LA 57 0 0 0 3 9
11 Henrik Sedin VAN 54 0 4 1 5 6
12 Patrik Elias NJ 42 1 1 1 5 5
13 Lubomir Visnovsky ANA 38 0 1 3 3 7
14 Brian Campbell CHI 37 2 1 1 1 2
15 Andrew Brunette MIN 17 1 0 0 2 1
15 Patrice Bergeron BOS 16 1 0 0 2 0
17 Jarome Iginla CGY 12 0 1 1 0 0
18 Jason Pominville BUF 12 0 0 1 2 1
19 Tomas Kaberle BOS 11 0 1 0 0 4
20 Steven Stamkos TB 10 1 0 0 0 0
21 Michael Grabner NYI 9 0 0 1 0 4
22 Alex Pietrangelo STL 8 0 1 0 0 1
22 James Reimer TOR 8 0 1 0 0 1
24 Jeff Carter PHI 8 0 0 1 1 0
24 Eric Staal CAR 8 0 0 1 1 0
26 Niclas Bergfors FLA 7 0 1 0 0 0
26 Ryan Getzlaf ANA 7 0 1 0 0 0
26 Claude Giroux PHI 7 0 1 0 0 0
26 Patrick Kane CHI 7 0 1 0 0 0
30 Milan Hejduk COL 6 0 0 1 0 1
30 Duncan Keith CHI 6 0 0 1 0 1
32 Ales Hemsky EDM 5 0 0 1 0 0
32 Joe Pavelski SJ 5 0 0 1 0 0
32 Tomas Plekanec MTL 5 0 0 1 0 0
32 Marty Reasoner FLA 5 0 0 1 0 0
32 Derek Roy BUF 5 0 0 1 0 0
37 Pierre-Marc Bouchard MIN 4 0 0 0 1 1
37 Paul Martin PIT 4 0 0 0 1 1
39 Joe Corvo CAR 3 0 0 0 1 0
39 Phil Kessel TOR 3 0 0 0 1 0
39 Henrik Lundqvist NYR 3 0 0 0 1 0
39 Mike Modano DAL 3 0 0 0 1 0
39 Dominic Moore TB 3 0 0 0 1 0
39 Frans Nielsen NYI 3 0 0 0 1 0
39 Marc-Edouard Vlasic SJ 3 0 0 0 1 0
46 Thomas Vanek BUF 2 0 0 0 0 2
46 Henrik Zetterberg DET 2 0 0 0 0 2
48 David Booth FLA 1 0 0 0 0 1
48 Dan Boyle SJ 1 0 0 0 0 1
48 Matt Carle PHI 1 0 0 0 0 1
48 Matt Duchene COL 1 0 0 0 0 1
48 Darren Helm DET 1 0 0 0 0 1
48 Saku Koivu ANA 1 0 0 0 0 1
48 Brooks Laich WSH 1 0 0 0 0 1
48 Trevor Lewis LA 1 0 0 0 0 1
48 Manny Malholtra VAN 1 0 0 0 0 1
48 Mason Raymond VAN 1 0 0 0 0 1
48 Sergei Samsonov FLA 1 0 0 0 0 1
48 Rob Scuderi LA 1 0 0 0 0 1
48 Alex Tanguay CGY 1 0 0 0 0 1
48 Cam Ward CAR 1 0 0 0 0 1
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| willus3 |
Posted - 06/22/2011 : 21:04:20
Jack Adams Trophy Voting
# Player Team PTS 1st 2nd 3rd
1 Dan Bylsma PIT 196 29 13 12
2 Alain Vigneault VAN 169 19 23 5
3 Barry Trotz NSH 80 8 9 13
4 Guy Boucher TB 54 6 6 6
5 Jacques Lemaire NJ 27 3 2 6
6 Bruce Boudreau WSH 26 2 3 7
7 Dave Tippett PHX 24 1 4 7
8 Mike Babcock DET 14 1 2 3
9 John Tortorella NYR 9 1 1 1
10 Claude Julien BOS 6 0 2 0
11 Randy Carlyle ANA 5 0 1 2
12 Peter Laviolette PHI 5 0 1 2
13 Jacques Martin MTL 4 0 1 1
14 Todd McLellan SJ 4 0 1 1
15 Lindy Ruff BUF 4 0 1 1
16 Marc Crawford DAL 2 0 0 2
17 Jack Capuano NYI 1 0 0 1
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| willus3 |
Posted - 06/22/2011 : 21:03:33
Calder Trophy Voting
# Player Team PTS 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th
1 Jeff Skinner CAR 1055 71 39 12 4 0
2 Logan Couture SJ 908 41 46 29 10 1
3 Michael Grabner NYI 497 6 19 37 35 14
4 Corey Crawford CHI 336 6 9 22 28 19
5 John Carlson WSH 188 3 3 16 12 21
6 P.K. Subban MTL 155 0 6 9 16 20
7 Sergei Bobrovsky PHI 51 0 4 1 4 6
8 Cam Fowler ANA 27 0 0 1 7 6
9 Taylor Hall EDM 22 0 0 1 4 5
10 Kevin Shattenkirk STL 18 0 0 0 3 9
11 Tyler Ennis BUF 16 0 1 0 0 9
12 Brad Marchand BOS 12 0 0 0 1 9
13 Derek Stepan NYR 6 0 0 0 2 0
14 Michal Neuvirth WSH 4 0 0 0 1 1
15 Jordan Eberle EDM 3 0 0 0 0 3
15 James Reimer TOR 3 0 0 0 0 3
17 Michael Sauer NYR 1 0 0 0 0 1
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| willus3 |
Posted - 06/22/2011 : 21:02:37
Vezina Trophy Voting
# Player Team PTS 1st 2nd 3rd
1 Tim Thomas BOS 104 17 5 4
2 Pekka Rinne NSH 84 6 17 3
3 Roberta Luongo VAN 33 3 4 6
4 Henrik Lundqvist NYR 23 3 1 5
5 Carey Price MTL 10 1 0 5
6 Ilya Bryzgalov PHX 9 0 2 3
7 Cam Ward CAR 4 0 1 1
8 Marc-Andre Fleury PIT 1 0 0 1
8 Antti Niemi SJ 1 0 0 1
8 Jonathan Quick LA 1 0 0 1
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| willus3 |
Posted - 06/22/2011 : 21:00:25
Hart Trophy Voting
# Player Team PTS 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th
1 Corey Perry ANA 1043 67 47 8 1 1
2 Daniel Sedin VAN 960 51 56 9 4 1
3 Martin St. Louis TAM 332 1 6 36 28 16
4 Pekka Rinne NSH 175 1 2 17 17 15
5 Tim Thomas BOS 171 1 5 15 12 15
6 Jonathan Toews CHI 107 0 2 7 15 13
7 Carey Price MON 90 2 0 10 4 8
8 Ryan Kesler VAN 69 1 3 4 5 3
9 Marc-Andre Fleury PIT 58 1 3 1 6 4
10 Henrik Sedin VAN 57 0 1 3 8 11
11 Steven Stamkos TAM 41 0 0 2 9 4
12 Jarome Iginla CHI 31 0 1 1 4 7
13 Zdeno Chara BOS 23 0 0 2 4 1
14 Henrik Lundqvist NYR 19 0 0 1 2 8
15 Alex Ovechkin WAS 19 0 0 0 4 7
16 Henrik Zetterberg DET 16 0 0 2 1 3
17 Roberto Luongo VAN 15 1 0 1 0 2
17 Ilya Bryzgalov PHX 13 0 0 2 0 3
17 Nicklas Lidstrom DET 11 0 0 2 0 1
17 Sidney Crosby PIT 5 0 0 1 0 2
17 Ryan Getzlaf ANA 5 0 0 1 0 2
17 Kris Letang PIT 5 0 0 1 0 0
23 Chris Pronger PHI 3 0 0 0 1 0
23 Lubomir Visnovsky ANA 3 0 0 0 1 0
23 Shea Weber NSH 2 0 0 0 0 2
23 Patrick Marleau SAN 1 0 0 0 0 1
23 Ryan Miller BUF 1 0 0 0 0 1
23 Keith Yandle PHX 1 0 0 0 0 1
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| Beans15 |
Posted - 06/22/2011 : 20:53:37
Hey Willus, where do you find the voting numbers?? Do you have them for the other Awards???
I don't disagree this is not a power house year for awards, but I do see Lidstrom as the best defensemen this year. the voting was close, but I think it was correct. |
| willus3 |
Posted - 06/22/2011 : 20:43:52
Just a weak year for awards in general. Perry wins the Hart? Geez!
Lidstrom I think did win this one on reputation. But the voting was very close.
Here are the results:
# Player Team PTS 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th
1 Nicklas Lidstrom DET 736 35 23 34 15 10
2 Shea Weber NSH 727 32 31 14 14 8
3 Zdeno Chara BOS 688 33 24 24 20 10
4 Lubomir Visnovsky ANA 573 20 20 26 28 19
5 Keith Yandle PHX 312 5 10 27 25 32
6 Kris Letang PIT 144 2 3 9 12 22
7 Dustin Byfuglien ATL 33 0 2 1 3 5
8 Christian Ehrhoff VAN 28 0 0 1 6 5
9 Duncan Keith CHI 24 0 1 1 3 3
10 Matt Carle PHI 8 0 1 0 0 1
11 Drew Doughty LA 8 0 1 0 0 1
12 Chris Pronger PHI 8 0 1 0 0 1
13 Toni Lydman ANA 3 0 0 0 1 0
14 Dan Boyle SJ 3 0 0 0 0 3
15 Ryan Suter NSH 2 0 0 0 0 2
16 Brian Campbell CHI 1 0 0 0 0 1
17 Dan Hamhuis VAN 1 0 0 0 0 1
17 Andrej Meszaros PHI 1 0 0 0 0 1
17 Tyler Myers BUF 1 0 0 0 0 1
17 Marc Staal NYR 1 0 0 0 0 1
Sorry about the alignment. Table didn't copy well. |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 06/22/2011 : 18:52:32
I don't have a problem with Lidstrom winning the Norris and I would say it wasn't at all a sentimental vote. Weber also had a fine year but did not play nearly the offensive role that Lidstrom did. Lidstrom was #2 in scoring, #1 in PP scoring, and was only 9 points different than Weber in the +/- stat.
I think Lidstrom did more offensively and as much defensively as Weber. |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 06/22/2011 : 16:57:24
Skinner takes the Calder. Not really surprising, but i bet the vote was closer than many will think with Couture having a great season as well! |
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