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| PainTrain |
Posted - 08/13/2007 : 11:24:41
What Russian Hockey Player would you like to have on your NHL Team? |
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| OILINONTARIO |
Posted - 12/02/2007 : 17:47:34
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Originally posted by Beans15
What about Andrei Kovalenko?? A guy who can go out and party all night long with strippers, drinking and smoking the whole time, the go out and play the next day.
That is a hockey god in my book!! His partying was legendary in Edmonton!
If you are under the age of 15, please do some research before you make a post about anything pre-1997.
Yes, Beans. I recall his play in Edmonton was also the stuff of legend. Infamous, you might say.
The Oil WILL make the playoffs. |
| nashvillepreds |
Posted - 12/02/2007 : 17:46:16
I'd take Kovalchuk instead of Brylin, Kovalev or Afinagenov any day.
GO PREDATORS GO |
| Jeremy12 |
Posted - 12/02/2007 : 17:37:56
Kovalchuk is amazing what are you talking about
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| Alex |
Posted - 12/02/2007 : 17:28:36
Kovalchuk?
Not one of the Russian greats by a long shot.
Kipper for Lundqvist? |
| Jeremy12 |
Posted - 12/02/2007 : 13:33:51
You forgot to put in Kovalchuk
how can you forget him lol
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| Antroman |
Posted - 12/02/2007 : 12:14:14
Hey Alex, Is Pavel D. Pavel Dimitra? LOL |
| Alex |
Posted - 12/02/2007 : 11:31:24
I take offence to the fact that Datsyuk is sitting at 14%
Has he not proved himself enough yet? The guy is sensational. He will not slow down.
It does depend on if I'm thinking short or long term. Malkin and Alex O might have more promise.
But I wouldn't bet on them outdoing Datsyuk when all three retire. I think Datsyuk is simply tops. And he also boasts a whole lot of class.
Ovechkin is slightly selfish.
Of course, you could say that his will to score is impecable. I still root for Pavel D.
Kipper for Lundqvist? |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 11/25/2007 : 08:17:17
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And guess what? Even though he had every right to, Crosby skated off the ice without even giving Kovalchuk a look. That's what class guys do. That's what Canadians do. No finger-pointing. No skating by the other team sticking out his tongue. No windmill arm celebrations in front of the bench. Those are Kovalchuk's moves, not Sid's.
Hey Fly, although I agree with most of your last post, this is the danger in painting everyone with the same brush. You talk about how Crosby did this last night because that's what Canadian's do. Isn't Avery Canadian?? I recall Theo Fluery with some pretty outrageous celebrations too.
My point is that there are good and bad attitudes regardless of Nationality.
Wayne or Bobby?? How about both!!! |
| Axey |
Posted - 11/25/2007 : 08:12:41
and why isnt markov on this list for defensemen?.. but id pick kovalchuk or ovechkin
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| andyhack |
Posted - 11/25/2007 : 08:07:19
quote:
Originally posted by PuckNuts
I thought this was the "What Russian would you want on your team" topic, how does Crosby fit into the discussion, he is Canadian is he not???
We have our top investigators looking into that right now Pucknuts! Preliminary reports indicate that his parents were making a series of mysterious vodka running trips to Moscow in the mid to late '80s. And Sid does seem to have an extraordinary amount of natural talent, for a supposedly Canadian "hick' from Nova Scotia that is.   
"Crosbyovsky" maybe?
As for the question, I think Ovechkin actually has a lot of heart and work ethic to go with his skill. And his comment after that Toronto game earlier in the year doesn't qualify him as a "hot dog" to me. A bit of a character maybe, but I think in his case, his somewhat fun personality meshes well with his dynamic offensive game. My prediction - he'll be very far from a footnote in history thirty years from now, regardless of how great that Crosbyovsky guy does in Pittsburgh.
Also, although personally I'd rather have Sid on my team than any of these other Russians , just on last night's game, sure Sid got the better of Kovalchuk, but there is only so much one can read from one head-to-head game. If one were to watch certain Bruins-Oilers games back in the '80s for instance, when Stevie "The Friendly Ghost" Kasper was sometimes very effectively shutting down Gretzky with the shadowing technique, maybe one would come to the conclusion that Gretzky wasn't nearly as "dominant" as people were saying. Of course, the strategy didn't always work and, on the whole, Gretzky did quite well against the Bruins.
I'm not comparing Kovalchuk to Gretzky. I just think maybe we should see a few more Crosby-Kovalchuk match-ups - then maybe we'll be in a better position to conclude whether Kovalchuk always "crumbles like our granny's pie crust" (good line though).
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| fly4apuckguy |
Posted - 11/24/2007 : 22:47:45
quote:
Originally posted by Guest6461
new here . to fly4apuckguy poster. i think you should take your blinders off when talking about kovalchuk. first yes your right when you agree he's one of the most dynamic offensive players in the league. but you got to leard he has also improved vastly in all his other abilities like in back checking, for a great offensive he can handle playing a bit of defens in his game. as for heart. if you don't think this guy got heart tou haven't been watching him play hockey much. by reading all your responses on kova it sould that your a bit tad jealous that he pawned your favorite with his finger and now that he's playing like he can also a little threaten that he might take a little limelight from your hero,
Who owned whom tonight? Crosby - goal and assist in a 5-0 win over the Thrashers. Kovalchuk - nothing of course. Crosby +1, Kovalchuk -1. Crosby, all over the ice making plays. Kovalchuk? INVISIBLE.
Against the Florida Panthers eight times a year, yeah he looks good. Against real competition, he crumbles like your granny's pie crust.
Kovalchuk is a defensive liability and a gutless coach-killing hot dog. If you are going to try to "leard" me about his defensive abilities, you should know that he has been called a one dimensional player by his own ex-coach, Bob Hartley, whom he got fired because he didn't like the way he coached (defensively). Of course, Hartley won a Stanley Cup, but what would he know, right Ilya?
Kovalchuk is tremendously talented offensively. So what? He'll be cashing cheques and tanking it in no time, like all Russians.
And guess what? Even though he had every right to, Crosby skated off the ice without even giving Kovalchuk a look. That's what class guys do. That's what Canadians do. No finger-pointing. No skating by the other team sticking out his tongue. No windmill arm celebrations in front of the bench. Those are Kovalchuk's moves, not Sid's. |
| Guest6882 |
Posted - 11/23/2007 : 07:46:26
Well i would take a healthy pavel bure over anyone, but clearly thats not going to happen. As a d-man myself i would probably take Volchenkov. But depending on what your team needs, youd have to take oveckin |
| Antroman |
Posted - 11/23/2007 : 07:14:26
I think we got a little away from the poll question? If you were looking for a way to put fannies in the seats your first choice would have to be Ovechkin. Young, fast, dynamic and fan friendly. I like Kovolchuk the best but he is tempermental and only plays his best when he feels like it. On the otherhand, Volchenkov is the ultimate defenseman warrior and the general rule is that good defense wins cups. Tough choice, that's for sure. I will have to think on it some more. Old Timer Russian, I have got to go with a healthy Pavel Bure!!!! |
| Guest1759 |
Posted - 11/23/2007 : 06:47:46
Kovalchuk or Ovechkin |
| Guest6461 |
Posted - 11/23/2007 : 03:18:20
new here . to fly4apuckguy poster. i think you should take your blinders off when talking about kovalchuk. first yes your right when you agree he's one of the most dynamic offensive players in the league. but you got to leard he has also improved vastly in all his other abilities like in back checking, for a great offensive he can handle playing a bit of defens in his game. as for heart. if you don't think this guy got heart tou haven't been watching him play hockey much. by reading all your responses on kova it sould that your a bit tad jealous that he pawned your favorite with his finger and now that he's playing like he can also a little threaten that he might take a little limelight from your hero, |
| I HATE CROSBY |
Posted - 11/22/2007 : 22:07:57
let's not forget one more thing about Ilya; he was one of the few guys to actually stand up to avery's "bullying"...Even Don Cherry (a guy who typically doesn't go out his way to jerk off Russians) was very touched by Ilya after this. He said something like " this guy's near the top in my books" or something like that.. If Don Cherry can look past Ilya's nationality, I sure hope you can, Fly. Cause to say Ilya plays w/o heart is a very daft observation....This guy is loaded with emotion, passion, whatever...He's a beauty!
Sugar Ray over Hasek any day! |
| fly4apuckguy |
Posted - 11/22/2007 : 20:20:14
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Originally posted by Thrasher17
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Originally posted by fly4apuckguy
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Originally posted by andyhack
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Originally posted by fly4apuckguy
Kovalchuk is a one-man show. He has no idea about the team concept whatsoever. As soon as he's in a pressure game where the screws are tightened a bit, he folds like a three dollar suit.
Just curious, where can I get a hold of one of these three dollar suits?
My closet is full of 'em.
About the Crosby/Kovalchuk thing... I'm willing to admit I am always going to side with the Canadian player because I am brutally biased. But I'm going to say this anyway: I always thought the "Crosby is a whiner" thing was a creation of the media, far removed from the truth. As a self-confessed hockey nut, I watched almost every game of Crosby's rookie season. Seriously - like 75 at least. If you take the moments from that season that people would call "whiny" and put them on a single loop, you'd have about 45 seconds of bad bahavior. This represents about 0.009% of his playing time over the course of the season.
Yet it was what people heard about, because it was far more interesting than the truth. The truth was, he led that team when no one else would. One time, I remember him giving it to the players on his own bench on a night when he was going at 100% and the rest of them (Gonchar, etc.) were dog-a****g it, and losing a game like 5-1 or something. He was flying, the rest of the team was mailing it in. He got them going that game. They still lost, but at least he got them to work a bit. It was the first step for that team in the right direction.
To me, that was leadership...for an 18 year old to do that took a big set of kahonas, and was that highlight replayed? Not one single time, to my knowledge.
I'd take Kovalchuk over any other Russian in the league today. As for your comment fly about how Crosby is such a god because he never gives up, there have been a number of games this year (I believe 2 or 3) where the Thrashers have been down by 3 or more goals in the second half of the game and Kovalchuk has almost single-handedly brought his team back into the game. He also has more goals and points than Crosby does at the moment. Although Crosby will probably finish with more points at the end of the season maybe you can stop throwing him into your waste of space category for everything. Make comments all you want about guys like Afinogenov but I don't think Kovalchuk deserves it.
Actually, I think I'll pretty much continue to say what I want to about Kovalchuk, as the last time I checked, I live in a free country. Thanks for the advice about the Russian, though. I'll remember to look for him when he's waiting tables at Sid's Hall of Fame induction. |
| Thrasher17 |
Posted - 11/21/2007 : 20:56:46
quote:
Originally posted by fly4apuckguy
quote:
Originally posted by andyhack
quote:
Originally posted by fly4apuckguy
Kovalchuk is a one-man show. He has no idea about the team concept whatsoever. As soon as he's in a pressure game where the screws are tightened a bit, he folds like a three dollar suit.
Just curious, where can I get a hold of one of these three dollar suits?
My closet is full of 'em.
About the Crosby/Kovalchuk thing... I'm willing to admit I am always going to side with the Canadian player because I am brutally biased. But I'm going to say this anyway: I always thought the "Crosby is a whiner" thing was a creation of the media, far removed from the truth. As a self-confessed hockey nut, I watched almost every game of Crosby's rookie season. Seriously - like 75 at least. If you take the moments from that season that people would call "whiny" and put them on a single loop, you'd have about 45 seconds of bad bahavior. This represents about 0.009% of his playing time over the course of the season.
Yet it was what people heard about, because it was far more interesting than the truth. The truth was, he led that team when no one else would. One time, I remember him giving it to the players on his own bench on a night when he was going at 100% and the rest of them (Gonchar, etc.) were dog-a****g it, and losing a game like 5-1 or something. He was flying, the rest of the team was mailing it in. He got them going that game. They still lost, but at least he got them to work a bit. It was the first step for that team in the right direction.
To me, that was leadership...for an 18 year old to do that took a big set of kahonas, and was that highlight replayed? Not one single time, to my knowledge.
I'd take Kovalchuk over any other Russian in the league today. As for your comment fly about how Crosby is such a god because he never gives up, there have been a number of games this year (I believe 2 or 3) where the Thrashers have been down by 3 or more goals in the second half of the game and Kovalchuk has almost single-handedly brought his team back into the game. He also has more goals and points than Crosby does at the moment. Although Crosby will probably finish with more points at the end of the season maybe you can stop throwing him into your waste of space category for everything. Make comments all you want about guys like Afinogenov but I don't think Kovalchuk deserves it. |
| fly4apuckguy |
Posted - 11/21/2007 : 17:49:20
quote:
Originally posted by I HATE CROSBY
Now now now Flyforapuckguy.......I lived in the North West Territories for 4 months when I was a lad, so I know a Hick when I see one.....I have plenty of proof to justify my claims..dare I say, a lot more proof than you have that Russians are selfish....
I remember when I played hockey tournaments in prince george, Fort St.John, Merrit, and yes, even Saskatchewan, the linguistics of the average resident was far below what I would call average..No offence.
I dunno, the people out there who jerk off over the one dimensional personalities of Crosby and the rest of your small town candian icons remind me of sheep...the Cliche, "you play to win", "all that matters is winning" garbage is a joke....I've always turned to hockey for entertainment, nothing more....Yet in run down towns in Manitoba or whatever, hockey is life?! That's a joke! I have no pride for hockey Canada, there's a lot more things to be proud of in this country..Hockey's a f***ing game!!!!!
But I digress, I stand by my hick comments...Obviously there's exceptions.....And I don't mean to generalize (that could be interpreted as ignorant, my goal was you'd understand it's a hyperbole).
Sugar Ray over Hasek any day!
So, we're hicks because we play to win, and we have pride in Hockey Canada? Okay. Your time (an entire 4 months...whoa!) in NWT was misspent, I believe.
I actually feel bad for you, in a way. My heart and mind are filled with hope and opportunity, pride and honour. Yours with hate, anger, and comtempt for anything not YOU. The fact that you see my way of life (and the people of my province's way of life) as the qualities of a backward society makes me have sympathy for those who exist in your "utopia" of intellect, wherever that may be.
The comment, "even Saskatchewan, the linguistics of the average resident was far below what I would call average", makes me recall one of my favourite quotes by Frederick Douglass, a man I respect beyond words for his bravery and unequivocal humanity he displayed in the face of slavery and oppression. A great writer and thinker, he said, "A gentleman will not insult me, and no man not a gentleman can insult me”.
So I remain... |
| Guest4912 |
Posted - 11/20/2007 : 09:51:39
OV hands down |
| I HATE CROSBY |
Posted - 11/20/2007 : 00:05:37
Now now now Flyforapuckguy.......I lived in the North West Territories for 4 months when I was a lad, so I know a Hick when I see one.....I have plenty of proof to justify my claims..dare I say, a lot more proof than you have that Russians are selfish....
I remember when I played hockey tournaments in prince george, Fort St.John, Merrit, and yes, even Saskatchewan, the linguistics of the average resident was far below what I would call average..No offence.
I dunno, the people out there who jerk off over the one dimensional personalities of Crosby and the rest of your small town candian icons remind me of sheep...the Cliche, "you play to win", "all that matters is winning" garbage is a joke....I've always turned to hockey for entertainment, nothing more....Yet in run down towns in Manitoba or whatever, hockey is life?! That's a joke! I have no pride for hockey Canada, there's a lot more things to be proud of in this country..Hockey's a f***ing game!!!!!
But I digress, I stand by my hick comments...Obviously there's exceptions.....And I don't mean to generalize (that could be interpreted as ignorant, my goal was you'd understand it's a hyperbole).
Sugar Ray over Hasek any day! |
| fly4apuckguy |
Posted - 11/19/2007 : 20:24:47
quote:
Originally posted by I HATE CROSBY
Hey, Fly4apuckguy...That whole "Kovalchuck footnote" thing is a joke......I'm sure fans of talent will always have fond memories of Ilya's beautiful goals and high-flying game.....Hick fans from Fort St.John may cherish those Cliche' "what matters is wins" quotes Sid pumps out on a daily basis, but I remember those highlight reel players far more....back when it was possible to aquire canucks tickets (before the bandwagon reformed), I always remember being totally blown away by the speed and skill of, say, pavel bure, he really took me out of my seat! I didn't really notice when linden or courtnal was playing..But I assure you, I noticed every single shift when bure was out there...And I guarentee if I was at a thrashers/penguins game, I would notice Ilya every shift he was on the ice, and only notice Sid when he was down in his traditional "on knees" pose....
And I agree, Ilya probably cares less about the cup than your average canadian....I doubt the Cup was on the cover of some Russian newspaper every day come playoff time, so how can you blame him...But I assure you he loves playing hockey just as much as any canadian out there, and loves winning just as much too
Sugar Ray over Hasek any day!
I know this will probably get me a reprimand, but I need to write something in response to IHC's comments. There is something that has been bothering me for awhile now, and I've let it go, and let it go. No more.
IHC, why are you so degrading to people you refer to as "hicks"? This is not the first time I've seen you post some derogatory comment regarding the intelligence of people who, I suppose, do not live in one of the major cities of Canada.
I'm from a town of 800 in Saskatchewan, so I if anyone qualifies as a "hick" in your eyes, it's me.
It gets kind of old reading your prejudicial crap. Have you ever even been anywhere else in Canada aside from the intellectual haven you call home? I have, and the cities have not cornered the market on intelligence, believe me.
What proof do you have that you are in any way, shape, or form any better than myself or any of the other people from my fine farming community which has, per capita, undoubtedly produced more doctors, educators, lawyers, writers, and other intellectuals (not to mention pro hockey players) than whatever city it is that you come from?
How about putting a stop to your ignorant remarks right now? |
| Guest5643 |
Posted - 11/19/2007 : 13:38:23
Ovechkin without a doubt! If you were to trade him to Ottawa for Spezza or Heatly his #'s would go through the roof, and the team would thrive that much more, he doesn't have anything to work with......mmmm, exept maybe clark,lol. They will get alot of help when Semin returns but lets hope he doesn't have the sophmore jinx. |
| LeafsFan4Life |
Posted - 11/19/2007 : 12:10:20
Alexander Ovechkin -- just cus he is that good
Long Live Hockey |
| Guest8023 |
Posted - 11/19/2007 : 11:07:55
Why would afinegenov even be on this list? He is a terrible player. Such a waste of individual talent |
| I HATE CROSBY |
Posted - 11/18/2007 : 23:37:31
Hey, Fly4apuckguy...That whole "Kovalchuck footnote" thing is a joke......I'm sure fans of talent will always have fond memories of Ilya's beautiful goals and high-flying game.....Hick fans from Fort St.John may cherish those Cliche' "what matters is wins" quotes Sid pumps out on a daily basis, but I remember those highlight reel players far more....back when it was possible to aquire canucks tickets (before the bandwagon reformed), I always remember being totally blown away by the speed and skill of, say, pavel bure, he really took me out of my seat! I didn't really notice when linden or courtnal was playing..But I assure you, I noticed every single shift when bure was out there...And I guarentee if I was at a thrashers/penguins game, I would notice Ilya every shift he was on the ice, and only notice Sid when he was down in his traditional "on knees" pose....
And I agree, Ilya probably cares less about the cup than your average canadian....I doubt the Cup was on the cover of some Russian newspaper every day come playoff time, so how can you blame him...But I assure you he loves playing hockey just as much as any canadian out there, and loves winning just as much too
Sugar Ray over Hasek any day! |
| Antroman |
Posted - 11/18/2007 : 19:00:34
It has to be Nick Borchevsky for single-handedly, with a wee bit of help from "Dougie", crushed the mighty dragon (Wings) in the playoffs a few years back. Never in the history of the game has a man so small come up so big!!!! Long live little Nicky. |
| Antroman |
Posted - 11/18/2007 : 18:59:42
It has to be Nick Borchevsky for single-handedly, with a wee bit of help from "Dougie", crushed the mighty dragon (Wings) in the playoffs a few years back. Never in the history of the game has a man so small come up so big!!!! Long live little Nicky. |
| nux_fan |
Posted - 10/19/2007 : 11:03:23
Only Makarov, Larionov, Bure, Fedorov, Ovechkin, or Fetisov should be on the short-list.
I'd take Bure or Fetisov in a heartbeat.
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| fly4apuckguy |
Posted - 10/18/2007 : 22:33:38
quote:
Originally posted by andyhack
quote:
Originally posted by fly4apuckguy
Kovalchuk is a one-man show. He has no idea about the team concept whatsoever. As soon as he's in a pressure game where the screws are tightened a bit, he folds like a three dollar suit.
Just curious, where can I get a hold of one of these three dollar suits?
My closet is full of 'em.
About the Crosby/Kovalchuk thing... I'm willing to admit I am always going to side with the Canadian player because I am brutally biased. But I'm going to say this anyway: I always thought the "Crosby is a whiner" thing was a creation of the media, far removed from the truth. As a self-confessed hockey nut, I watched almost every game of Crosby's rookie season. Seriously - like 75 at least. If you take the moments from that season that people would call "whiny" and put them on a single loop, you'd have about 45 seconds of bad bahavior. This represents about 0.009% of his playing time over the course of the season.
Yet it was what people heard about, because it was far more interesting than the truth. The truth was, he led that team when no one else would. One time, I remember him giving it to the players on his own bench on a night when he was going at 100% and the rest of them (Gonchar, etc.) were dog-a****g it, and losing a game like 5-1 or something. He was flying, the rest of the team was mailing it in. He got them going that game. They still lost, but at least he got them to work a bit. It was the first step for that team in the right direction.
To me, that was leadership...for an 18 year old to do that took a big set of kahonas, and was that highlight replayed? Not one single time, to my knowledge. |
| fly4apuckguy |
Posted - 10/18/2007 : 22:23:12
quote:
Originally posted by andyhack
quote:
Originally posted by fly4apuckguy
Kovalchuk is a one-man show. He has no idea about the team concept whatsoever. As soon as he's in a pressure game where the screws are tightened a bit, he folds like a three dollar suit.
Just curious, where can I get a hold of one of these three dollar suits?
My closet is full of 'em. |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 10/18/2007 : 21:52:36
What about Andrei Kovalenko?? A guy who can go out and party all night long with strippers, drinking and smoking the whole time, the go out and play the next day.
That is a hockey god in my book!! His partying was legendary in Edmonton!
If you are under the age of 15, please do some research before you make a post about anything pre-1997. |
| andyhack |
Posted - 10/18/2007 : 21:48:29
quote:
Originally posted by fly4apuckguy
Kovalchuk is a one-man show. He has no idea about the team concept whatsoever. As soon as he's in a pressure game where the screws are tightened a bit, he folds like a three dollar suit.
Just curious, where can I get a hold of one of these three dollar suits?
Anyway, I wonder whether the answer to this question might not have clearly been Valery Kharlamov had he been dealt a slightly rosier hand of cards from above. Perhaps it is him anyway.
Edit - ah - just read the question - I guess you'd want a live guy on your team today.
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| Beans15 |
Posted - 10/18/2007 : 21:23:05
Hey Fly, that Kovalchuk on Crosby thing was that Crosby had taken what I would call a stupid immature penatly against Kovalchuk, so when Kovalchuk scored, he made sure that Sid knew about it.
By no means am I defending Kovalchuk. I agree he is a "stereotypical" Russian hockey player. All talent, no heart, no team game.
But I seriously think that was a great lesson for Crosby. This happened when a lot of critics were calling Crosby a whiner. I think this was one time he realized that he can hurt players a lot more on the scoreboard than physically.
That being said, I was happy that Kovalchuk did that. Every little punk needs a lesson. Crosby deserved that one.
But you are right, Crosby will get that back in the end, tenfold.
If you are under the age of 15, please do some research before you make a post about anything pre-1997. |
| fly4apuckguy |
Posted - 10/18/2007 : 21:11:36
Kovalchuk is a hotdog, and he'll someday be a footnote in hockey history. Terrific talent, but all flash, no substance. In a sense, a typical Russian star hockey player. I lost the tiny bit of respect I had for him when he scored a big goal against the Penguins during Sidney Crosby's rookie season. Sid was in the box, Kovalchuk scored what would be the game-winner or maybe game-tying goal, and upon doing so, he turned and pointed at Sidney with a smug look on his face. I thought, you little punk. Crosby is going to bury you in his stats and Cup rings in a few seasons. It was a gutless, showboat thing to do, and no self-respecting player would do such a thing, except a Russian and maybe Sean Avery.
Does Kovalchuk even know or care what the Stanley Cup looks like?
I'd take one Ryan Smyth on my team ahead of ten Kovalchuks. |
| Canucks Man |
Posted - 10/14/2007 : 22:22:14
quote:
Originally posted by fly4apuckguy
Kovalchuk is a one-man show. He has no idea about the team concept whatsoever. As soon as he's in a pressure game where the screws are tightened a bit, he folds like a three dollar suit.
Yeah, so players with no team concept stand up for there players and fight, is that what you are saying? Kovalchuk has come a long way and i think should definalty be considered here
CANUCKS RULE!!!
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| fly4apuckguy |
Posted - 10/14/2007 : 21:53:56
Kovalchuk is a one-man show. He has no idea about the team concept whatsoever. As soon as he's in a pressure game where the screws are tightened a bit, he folds like a three dollar suit. |
| Guest4282 |
Posted - 10/12/2007 : 17:15:17
I agree with Guest 6383. Ilya Kovalchuk has to be considered in this poll. It's a toss up between him and Ovechkin, but Fedorov in his prime was one of the game's best. |
| Guest6383 |
Posted - 10/12/2007 : 11:59:32
how can someone make this poll and leave ilya kovalchuk off of it is beyond me. afineganov is a dud |
| fly4apuckguy |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 17:03:28
Ovechkin today. Federov 15 years ago.
I think Malkin is overrated. Having seen him play, he's a got a lot of talent, but not nearly the drive that Ovechkin has to score and do well.
Let's face it, though. Not many Russians are team guys. Most of them are individual talents. If they don't start out that way (like Kovalchuk), they soon become that way (like Gonchar).
Mario Lemieux on his off-season training habits: "I don't order fries with my club sandwich." |
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