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| jsaudy |
Posted - 10/18/2007 : 08:04:36
Anybody knows what's happening with Teemu Selanne? Will he retired or not? I have taken a guess with him in my pool...
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| andyhack |
Posted - 10/28/2007 : 10:10:51
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Originally posted by PuckNuts
Does it really matter what his reasons are for retiring. We would all do things different if we were in his shoes.
I suppose the first thing we would do is look down at our shoes and realize how nice they are compared to the crap we used to wear . I suppose that may be part of what flyguy is saying.
Having said that, as my grandma used to say, everyone being different is what makes the world go round. I was awfully confused by that for many years by the way .
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| fly4apuckguy |
Posted - 10/28/2007 : 09:56:39
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Originally posted by Beans15
You're talking Apple's and Oranges.
It's closer than apples to oranges.
I think it's more like red delicious apples to macintosh apples, but I get your point. |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 10/28/2007 : 08:01:53
Fly, your analogy with Tom Hanks has some validity, but not much. The difference is Tom Hanks work in an industry where he can pick and choose his projects. I heard somewhere than he gets between 30-50 screenplays a year, maybe looks at 10, and might choose 2 or 3.
If Neidermayer did that, he would be destroyed by the media and by fans. Could you imagine if he said, "Ya, I'll come back, but I am only playing Home Games, never back to backs, and only against west opponents."
You're talking Apple's and Oranges.
And Barry Sanders, I believe still loves Football and that is why he walked away. DIfferent from Michael Jordan, Barry Sanders will always remember himself as the best at the sport he loved. Jordan will always remember a shell of his former self in the sport he loved.
In the end, I agree to disagree with you Fly. I can appreicate both points of view as I know I will golf until the day I die. You are like that with hockey.
If you are under the age of 15, please do some research before you make a post about anything pre-1997. |
| PuckNuts |
Posted - 10/28/2007 : 06:19:06
Does it really matter what his reasons are for retiring. We would all do things different if we were in his shoes.
He will be missed especially at the international level.
What I cannot stand is a player that retires young, then a coulpe of years later decides he made the wrong choice, and wants to go back to his sport, whatever it was.
I have lost a lot of respect for Niedermayer, he had all summer or make a decision.
I think there may be more to it than meets the eye. I thought he may be nursing an injury, and cannot decide if it is worth rehabilitation.
I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan
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| fly4apuckguy |
Posted - 10/27/2007 : 23:01:54
Beans, I think I could appreciate walking away in almost anything except hockey. I love the game too much. I would (and do) play for nothing. It just seems insane to me that someone would want to give it up when he's in the position Scott is in. Your "insatiable love comment" has merit - it's true, I can't put myself in his shoes.
As for the last paragraph, explain Tom Hanks to me. He's won 2 Acandemy Awards for best actor, made more money than he'll ever be able to spend (more than his grandkids' grandkids will be able to spend), and he still acts in movies. He loves it.
I could walk away from my current job if I was financially secure, but not hockey. I could never walk away from hockey if it was paying me the kind of money Neidermeyer gets. Heck, I can't walk away from it now and all I get from it is sore knees and a bad foot.
If Barry Sanders truly loved football, he would not have walked away from it either. I think I respect the guy who has to be dragged away more than the guy who could have played two more years but didn't. (Current or recent examples of gutting it out - Yzerman, Sakic, Messier...guys I respect and admire with abnormal quantities).
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| Beans15 |
Posted - 10/27/2007 : 17:31:11
Hey Fly, not to get too deep here, but can you not for a minute appreciate a guy saying that he's done what he's wanted to achieve and it's time to move on??? That happens everyday in the world too.
Could it be that your insatiable love for the game can't put yourself if his shoes for a second and see that he can walk away in his prime, be financially comfortable for the rest of his life, and enjoy his family and friends??
And your thing on Barry Sanders is dead wrong. No Heart?? C'mon. It's the guy who walks away from the millions and millions of dollars that has the most heart. It wasn't about the money or the fame. He played the game to be the best. He was the best, so he was done. He didn't play to prove it to you personally. He proved it to everyone, and most importantly, himself. That's it. He was done and I respect that! Way more than a guy like Jordan, who came back how many times and proved what in the end??
Finally, you said that you have a job that keeps you from your family for times. Does that mean if your Boss came up to you and said, "You've done everything you can do in this job and I will make sure you are financially set for the rest of your life, so now you can spend all the time you want with your family or the other things you love in life/"that you would say, "Nope, I'll stick around for a while and do some of the stuff I have already done again?"
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| Greg Smith |
Posted - 10/27/2007 : 17:19:04
Fly, I guess I'll never know what it's like not to play in the NHL. We have 2 different sides to be talking about this topic from, which makes it interesting. We are both right and wrong in a way.
After playing in the NHL, it's hard to watch hockey games. |
| nashvillepreds |
Posted - 10/27/2007 : 17:16:21
I know where your coming from Fly. I work day and night trying deserately to make it into the NHL like my uncle.
GO PREDATORS GO |
| fly4apuckguy |
Posted - 10/27/2007 : 13:52:26
Greg, I'm willing to bet that I probably spent more time on the ice than 90%+ of the guys in the NHL growing up. Possibly more than that even.
I'm not doing this to brag or whatever, just to point out how dedicated/insane I was.
In a typical week, I would play three or four games with my own age group, and probably a couple with the age group above me (small town, always needed players, so there I was). I'd attend the practices of both teams, unless there was a conflict with my own age group's team - that always took precedence.
I always went public skating three times a week, two hours each time, unless we had a game somewhere else.
I refereed hockey also when I turned 12. This was usually two or three games a week (before or after my own games), but on some weekends when I wasn't playing, I might do every game in the tournament (I'm from a smallish town of about 1000, so there were not many refs around). This might be 10 games on a good weekend. I wish they'd have paid the amounts they do now, I could have retired!
My dad was the manager of the community rink from the time I was born until I graduated high school, so I could shoot around or play shinny whenever I wanted, which I did. Now, I'm not saying this was good, but he and his buddies would often have late Friday night and Saturday night drinks in the Zamboni room, so often I'd be on the ice until 3:00 am - no joke. I'm not condoning the behavior, but I appreciated it!
Of course, things were different when I was really little, but in a typical week when I was 11-17, I may have been on the ice up to 40 hours a week. I know - to hear that now sounds insane, but it's true. I was going through about 100 hockey sticks a winter (paid for by the aforementioned refereeing) and usually 2 sets of skate blades, which were sharpened down to the plastic.
I never watched TV as a kid during the winter, except for HNIC on occasion. I didn't have any time, and I didn't care. I loved my life at the rink, and I have no regrets.
I never made it far for many reasons, some my own, some political (as a guy in the system, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about). I may have been good enough to play pro, but I'll never know. I like to think so, of course. In truth, I never played hockey because I wanted to be in the NHL. It never really even crossed my mind at the time (it did more after my playing days were done and I had to work for a living). I played because I loved the game. Period. My goals were to score goals and win games with my friends, not play for the Oilers or something.
So when I hear a guy like Neidermeyer say "He's thinking it over", it makes me wish I could make up his mind for him, you know.
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| Greg Smith |
Posted - 10/27/2007 : 13:25:14
Well I just checked you profile, disregard that whole last paragraph, or pass it on to your kids.
After playing in the NHL, it's hard to watch hockey games. |
| Greg Smith |
Posted - 10/27/2007 : 13:24:18
Fly, nobody said that Neidermayer is actually done for his career anyway. Maybe he's just upset about being suspended by the Ducks. I'm sure he would love to continue playing in the NHL. As I said before though, you have to know when to quit and I wouldn't consider this a bad time for Neidermayer to pass his chance on to somebody else.
I'm saying he should retire now, but if a player feels he is ready then don't deny it.
I know how you feel about getting to play in the NHL. Before I was selected by scouts for the Minor leagues when I was 15, I felt just like you. Unlike a lot of people though who just say they would give anything to play in the NHL, i worked out 1 hour per day, skated an hour per day and spent all the rest of my time out on my driveway practicing with my brothers. Anybody who believe's they can be in the NHL can be, you just need the heart. So fly, that's my advise to you, unless your like 40 or something, then you should have done those things a few years ago
After playing in the NHL, it's hard to watch hockey games. |
| fly4apuckguy |
Posted - 10/27/2007 : 13:12:08
I'm away from my family a lot, too, because of my work. Lots of people are.
I don't think I'm underestimating that point at all. I have a pretty close friend in the NHL right now, and he does say it's difficult, time-wise. In fact, his wife just had a baby a few weeks ago, and he's been on the road for two of those weeks. It's a huge sacrifice. I get that.
But people do this every day, in all walks of life. I don't view NHLers or Scott Neidermeyer as special in this regard, other than the fact that yes, he's already rich and doesn't HAVE to continue playing if he doesn't want to, whereas I don't have that option in my job or life.
All I know is that I would have done just about anything short of major crime to make it to the NHL and play it for every last second I could.
Barry Sanders was brought up earlier. Some see Barry Sanders as a hero who walked away from the game at the top. I don't. I think he lacked heart, and lacked a love of the game. I think that also shows a lack of respect for every guy out there who does have the heart, but maybe not the legs, to take his place. |
| Greg Smith |
Posted - 10/27/2007 : 12:54:16
Fly, I know that your having a hard time understanding this. sometimes a player has to learn to walk away from something, this is a time for Neidermayer to refelect on his career and deside if he is ready or not. I know what it's like when a player deside to retire.
I feel that has done a lot in his career and like what Beans said, it's hard being away from your family for so long. neidermayer, I think, will return to the NHL whether it's this year or the next.
After playing in the NHL, it's hard to watch hockey games. |
| jsaudy |
Posted - 10/27/2007 : 10:45:39
I was just asking because I pick him in my pool near the end, but you guys are on fire!
I will just say that if you sign a long term contract near the end of your carrer, only injuries should make you quit. If your not sure, go for a one year deal with option... It's like Forsberg who wants a 3 year deal with a team that could win the cup. Will he stay at home if he wins it on his first year? Personally I don't think Forsberg would do this, but the 2 guys you guys talk about are two superstar that have lost some of their fame to this in my mind...
On another note... I on roll and only at ONE POINT from taking the lead in my pool!
Oh yeah, I almost forgot...
Ca sent la coupe s'tie! |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 10/27/2007 : 09:09:35
I've been away for a while but I see this is a pretty hot topic.
Fly, I can appreciate your logic, but I think you are not putting enough weight into the lifestyle of an NHL Superstar. Not only does the guy have to live on the road for 1/2 the season, the other 1/2 is tied up between Practices/appearances/games/interviews/blah blah blah. That pays a bigger toll on a family than I think people appreciate. If he was walking away at 25, I would agree with you completely. But he's don't it all, repped his country, and could walk away on top. I know I have a hard time being away from my wife for a day or two. Let alone most of the season! Add in kids. That's tougher than people think.
And that is the biggest thing. Looking at Messier, he left the game because he didn't feel that he could be the same player. THE GAMES PUSHED HIM AWAY. I would think that most of the those players you say wished they played more were players that had the game push them away. I respect Neidermayer for Pushing away the game. If he does leave, it's not based on not being an effective player. That is a huge difference.
Now, in 2010, if he is retired but asked to come and give Canada a hand in the Olympics and flat out says no, any respect I have for him will be lost.
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| fly4apuckguy |
Posted - 10/25/2007 : 21:38:17
I get that he's different. Your point about Dryden is well made. He is one of my idols (although I'm not crazy about the whole Liberal thing), and he was a bit "different", too.
But I think it's fair to say it reflects on his passion for the game. If he had Messier's heart, or even...gulp...Chelios', he's be playing right now. And God knows he'd be better than either of those guys were/are near the end.
Does it make him a loser? No, I guess not. It just makes him a dork, in my humble yet esteemed opinion. I just don't get that thinking. This is a game of passion, not of analyzing your feelings. I'd like to think my family would love me enough to understand the passion I have for the game. Unfortunately, I'm not in the NHL. I'm a barely capable rec player, at this point.
Yet, they understand my passion in playing that crap hockey, so I guess there's a parallel. |
| andyhack |
Posted - 10/25/2007 : 21:27:54
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Originally posted by fly4apuckguy
All I know is that as difficult a decision Neidermeyer has in front of him, whether or not to retire at 34 from a game that pays him millions of dollars and gets him adored by thousands of fans every day...and getting up to work as a truck driver, driving across country away from your family and living on Whoppers and fries and making 44 grand a year and being called an idiot by anyone trying to pass you, I think Dr. Neidermeyer has it pretty darn easy.
I'm not saying the life of an NHLer doesn't have some difficult times away from family and such, but let's all have just a tiny bit of perspective here.
Flyguy - I understand your line of thinking. It's hard to imagine why a guy would walk away from what would seem like a dream way of making a living. But you said it yourself. This guy is a bit different. Even before all this, you could tell just by looking at or listening to the guy, that he was NOT anywhere near a Messier type of personality. He is what he is, as Dryden was what he was.
Personally, I don't think it reflects on his passion for the game that he is thinking about retiring. In fact, it probably IS his passion for the game, combined with his knowledge that all the stuff you say about an NHL player being one lucky SOB being true, that is making this decision a struggle for him right now. What is on the other side of that struggle? Who knows? But being a sort of a "different" type, I guess there is a whole range of stuff that he is thinking about.
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| fly4apuckguy |
Posted - 10/25/2007 : 20:19:26
All I know is that as difficult a decision Neidermeyer has in front of him, whether or not to retire at 34 from a game that pays him millions of dollars and gets him adored by thousands of fans every day...and getting up to work as a truck driver, driving across country away from your family and living on Whoppers and fries and making 44 grand a year and being called an idiot by anyone trying to pass you, I think Dr. Neidermeyer has it pretty darn easy.
I'm not saying the life of an NHLer doesn't have some difficult times away from family and such, but let's all have just a tiny bit of perspective here.
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| nashvillepreds |
Posted - 10/25/2007 : 16:26:58
Actually Fly, greg Smith is my uncle. I asked him about his retirement the other day. He said a lot of unseccesful hockey players regret reiting because they hadn't accomplished a lot in their careers against players that had won the cup.
Yes, Greg Smith really is my uncle. Most of you probably don't know him (he was a memeber of the washington Capitals for a little while)He's coming to Nashville tomorrow, I'll ask him for some input.
GO PREDATORS GO |
| andyhack |
Posted - 10/25/2007 : 09:34:44
Epitomy - It is a big decision. And maybe there is stuff going on we don't know about. For example, I think it would be nice for him to give his teammates some sort of idea as to when he is going to make his decision - and maybe he has done that, we don't really know.
I just think that for the psychological focus of the team, more than anything else, the sooner the better. Sometimes you gotta make big decisions within a certain amount of time in consideration of others who need to hear the decision to move on with things themselves.
What time is appropriate in this case? A month? Two months? I can understand him, and you, saying, "Who are we to judge?" but this is a site which, as I understand it, gives us practically unlimited rights to shoot off our mouths about hockey stuff like this, so I guess I'll shoot mine off. July, August, September. If my math is correct, that is three months. I can actually live with that for a big decision. I might even be persuaded to accept some of October too. But that's about the limit in my books (for these circumstances, where your team is a month into a hockey season). As I say, for me, now it's starting to seem a little selfish.
If I were him I'd either suit up, retire or announce that I'm taking the year off, and then let you know about the future beyond this season next summer.
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| EpitomyOfStupidity |
Posted - 10/25/2007 : 07:33:26
The Ducks didn't have to bring in Schnieder at all. They have a good core of defenseman as it is. Schnieder was simply an insurance signing. He's injured. Francois Beauchemin, Joe Dipenta, Trent Huskins, Sean O'Donnell, Chris Pronger and Shane Hnidy? No seventh man minus untested players (Shane Rome and Maxim Kondratiev). They could've signed a blue chip 7th or gone with a good 4-6 guy. Not an over priced over valued number 1-2 guy like Schnieder. Burke choose to go for Schnieder, thats all.
As far as the indecision goes. Its a big decision. Its a big point in his life. He's thirty-four (34) years of age. He's still young. Yeah, he still has the skill set to play but put things in perspective. He has won almost everything there is at his position. As was stated earlier, he won a Cup with his brother. I mean, how many people can say they played side-by-side with their brother and lifted the Lord Stanley's Mug together?
How stressed is a family life when your a father playing hockey? Your away half the winter. You miss holidays. You don't really get to watch your kids grow up. What does your wife do? Complain! Or even sleep around in a lot of cases. NHL Hockey is a year long thing. It never stops. You never stop training, never stop conditioning etc... Its a full time job most of which keeps you away from your kids. NHL life isn't the ideal life for a family man.
Other factors, like I've mentioned, health concerns. I love hockey, but if you think I want to be Ed Belfour when I'm 40 with a constant herniated disk or Paul Comrie with concussion syndrome's for years after it happened or Alex Mogilny with a cronic hip injury... etc... Hell know. As much as I love hockey I don't want to be crippled.
Take this in to consideration, so what if you would give your left nut to play. He already has. He's succeeded where others haven't. He has proven himself to himself and to his fans. Anyone can retire when it feels right for them. For Scotty, he's got a lot on his plate. I lot of factors into his decision. Let him make it and let it be. You can't seriously be bitter because he is thinking about retirement. Its his life. Let him live it.
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| Canucks Man |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 22:25:42
I for one am very dissapointed in Niedermeyer right now. The guy is under contract for this year and the next and should live up to the deal he originaly signed or say once and for all that he is retireing. It isn't fair to the Ducks orginization Niedermeyer had almost 4 months to say whether he would play or not, and now the ducks have had to bring in Schnieder to replace him while he figures out what he will do. He should make up his mind.
CANUCKS RULE!!!
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| andyhack |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 21:26:36
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Originally posted by willus3
Couldn't agree more with Fly. Niedermayer has quite a bit more he could accomplish in fact. "
True, but maybe he feels he has accomplished "enough" in hockey, for him anyway. Who knows? I know there are some significant differences, but Ken Dryden comes to mind a bit. Both kind of "atypical" thinkers perhaps.
I have no problem with him retiring now. What I do have a problem with is the indecision. It seems a bit selfish to me because it kind of leaves his teammates hanging. I think that the team would be better off knowing one way or the other as soon as possible. |
| willus3 |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 17:30:17
Couldn't agree more with Fly. Niedermayer has quite a bit more he could accomplish in fact.
The guy has only had about 4 or 5 seasons where he was a bona fide top 3 in the league defenseman.
He's got about 4 or 5 more where he could prove just how good he is and see if he can't knock Lidstrom off the pedestal. In my mind he's about the only one who could do it right now. One Norris trophy? Randy Carlyle and Doug Wilson won a Norris too. La-dee-freakin-dah. Let's see him win 5 and really cement his place in hockey history. He's got plenty to play for.
If it is really his reasoning for contemplating retiring that he's won all there is to win, then it's fairly clear he doesn't have the love and pasion for the game that the all time greats had. If that's the case, good riddance Niedermayer.
Oh and his Conn Smythe win is debatable too.
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| fly4apuckguy |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 16:34:07
Nothing left to prove...
Man, you guys come from a different school of hockey than I grew out of. Maybe Dr. Neidermeyer should take some courses and become a psychologist, so that he can counsel other hockey players on when the right time is to retire. Then they can all have weekly meetings, and play Joan Baez records and smoke a bowl and talk about their emotions.
This isn't complicated, man. It's a game. You guys act as if he was in a war on a tour of duty or something, or working for the peace corp in Somalia. It's hockey!!! It's fun!!!
I know retired NHL hockey players, and they all say the same thing...
"I just wish I could have played longer."
I think if you have a gift, and you piss it away, you are a knob. I'd give my left you-know-what to play one shift of NHL hockey, and you're telling me he should retire because he has nothing left to prove?
There is always something to prove. If not to anyone else, to yourself. But this isn't even about that. It's about the love of the game. Why do you think they had to drag a guy like Mark Messier from the ice? I'd take one of him over ten Scott Neidermeyers.
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| nashvillepreds |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 15:11:27
Fly, I respect what your saying but I completely disagree with you on that one. Neidermayer should retire. Like Beans said, he has nothing else to prove or to play for.
Oh, and 1 more player to add to your list, Chris Chelios.
GO PREDATORS GO |
| EpitomyOfStupidity |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 09:32:40
* 1990-91 - WHL - West First All-Star Team (Kamloops Blazers)
* 1990-91 - CHL - Scholastic Player of the Year (Canadian Major Junior)
* 1991-92 - WHL - West First All-Star Team (Kamloops Blazers)
* 1991-92 - Memorial Cup - Stafford Smythe Memorial Trophy (MVP)
* 1992-93 - NHL All-Rookie Team (Defenceman)
* 1994-95 - Stanley Cup (New Jersey Devils)
* 1997-98 - Played in NHL All-Star Game
* 1997-98 - NHL - Second All-Star Team (Defenceman)
* 1999-00 - Stanley Cup (New Jersey Devils)
* 2000-01 - Played in NHL All-Star Game
* 2002-03 - Stanley Cup (New Jersey Devils)
* 2003-04 - Played in NHL All-Star Game
* 2003-04 - NHL - First All-Star Team (Defenceman)
* 2003-04 - NHL - James Norris Memorial Trophy (Defenceman of the Year)
* 2006-07 - Nominated as Starter for NHL All-Star Game (but did not play)
* 2006-07 - NHL - Conn Smythe Trophy (Playoff MVP)
* 2006-07 - NHL - First All-Star Team (Defenceman)
* 2006-07 - Stanley Cup (Anaheim Ducks)
What more does he have to prove? He has kids, family and a wealth of money. Scott Niedermayer's real concern, from what I have gathered, is that he does not want to end up like other former NHLers with a laundry list of medical problems when he gets older. He still loves the game and still would like to play. Thats why he isn't calling it completely off.
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| fly4apuckguy |
Posted - 10/23/2007 : 19:29:57
Ahhhh, come on, you guys. I get your point, Beans, I really do. Guys like Blake and Foote are good examples of guys that should probably retire. Then again, Chelios is still doing his thing in Detroit, and he's a lot older than both of those guys.
There is a such thing as the right time, and I think Gretzky was perfect (as usual) in nailing it. He was on the decline, but still beloved and capable, if not still good. He timed it perfectly.
Mario had to be pushed out. Same as Paul Coffey. Hull. Messier. Modano is a guy that should go, too.
Neidermeyer isn't there yet. It's one thing to be able to spot your decline and honorably bow out, but he's still arguably one of the best in the game. There's no honor in that. To me, it just shows that he's a guy who plays hockey, not a hockey player, if you know what I mean. |
| nashvillepreds |
Posted - 10/23/2007 : 17:32:42
I agree with you beans, I'd rather see people like Jeremy roenick retire like 3 years ago when he wasn't playing well than hom staying in the NHL just to get maybe 100 more points in those three years (which he didn't and won't) Same with guys like Bill Guerin. He's doing alright the past couple years but in the 05/06 season i believe he earned like 500k per goal he scored
GO PREDATORS GO |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 10/23/2007 : 17:05:40
I personally respect a superstar that retires in their prime. I would rather remember Neidermayer as one of the best defensemen in the league then a guy holding on like Blake or Foote. Besides that, if a NHL player can retire in his early 30's, I'm sure he'll enjoy his later life without the toll he would put onto his body be continuing to play.
A perfect example is Barry Sanders. The guy retired as the best RB in the NFL, and possibly history. Although he didn't win a Super Bowl, he never would have in Detroit. He rode off into the sunset and layed low. You never hear about him. He did his job, and he went home.
I hope Neidermayer does the same thing. Good on him!
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| Guest4744 |
Posted - 10/23/2007 : 08:02:38
I picked BOTH Nieds and Selanne in my 14-player pool on the 14th and the 15th reserve spots. i hope they make up their minds before our supplemental draft is held on December 1st (27th game mark for the ducks). |
| leigh |
Posted - 10/23/2007 : 00:54:51
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Originally posted by fly4apuckguy
Neidermeyer always struck me as kind of weird. The hair, the glasses, etc. He's like a college professor in shoulder pads.
LOL!!!!! Another pickuphockey.com forum classic moment! nice one Fly! |
| fly4apuckguy |
Posted - 10/22/2007 : 21:25:25
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Originally posted by Beans15
I have heard that Niedermayer feels some what like there is nothing left for him to acheive. The guy is a Champion at every possible level a Canadian can be, and he won the Cup with his Brother. What's left??
I get this, but do you think a guy like Messier would have ever thought this? Or Gordie Howe? Or Gretz? I mean, come on, you're a hockey player, dude.
Neidermeyer always struck me as kind of weird. The hair, the glasses, etc. He's like a college professor in shoulder pads. I just wish he'd stop thinking about it so much and lace 'em up again. It' ain't rocket surgery, as Grapes would say. |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 10/21/2007 : 19:59:25
I have heard that Niedermayer feels some what like there is nothing left for him to acheive. The guy is a Champion at every possible level a Canadian can be, and he won the Cup with his Brother. What's left??
And yes Puck, he is suspended by the team. As soon as he didn't report to training camp. He will stay suspended until he makes his decison.
Another note on a different UFA. I read in the Edmonton paper today that Forsberg's recovery is faster than expected. He has been working out with Modo in Sweden and is supposedly shooting for a Nove 15th return. Front runners are Dallas (who flew thier GM and Special Adviser Brett Hull to have a face to face) and Philly.
Stay tuned!
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| fly4apuckguy |
Posted - 10/21/2007 : 18:59:13
I'm not sure what their reasoning is...both of them are still more than capable NHLers. I don't buy the argument that they are sitting out for cap reasons. No one is that selfless.
I suspect there is more to this than what we are hearing. |
| PuckNuts |
Posted - 10/21/2007 : 18:52:58
I think Scott Niedermayer is still suspended by Anaheim, that way his salary does not count against the cap...
I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan
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| leafsfan_101 |
Posted - 10/21/2007 : 18:13:34
I think that these players are gonna come back around the 45-50 game mark. They are taking off the first half of the year to refresh and reload. If you have either Selanee or Neidermeyer unload on thm quick. |
| fly4apuckguy |
Posted - 10/21/2007 : 18:08:01
This just in....Teemu has finished his most recent bag of Doritos and is now working on drinking a 2.3 litre Coke Slurpee. |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 10/18/2007 : 20:58:47
Neidermayer needs an offer?? He's under contract through the 2010 season for $6.25 million/year.
It's not the offer for him. It is the fact that he's won every title that a Canadian Player can in North America, and he won the Cup with his Brother. He has said he feels he has nothing really to play for.
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| fly4apuckguy |
Posted - 10/18/2007 : 20:26:34
If he (and Neidermeyer) are truly undecided, then they are fools. I know that is strong, but come on, guys...it's not like you have to decide whether or not to spend another year in the coal mine, or on the streets of Philly as a cop. It's professional hockey. You were both great players, but make a decision and move on, and let us do the same. |
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