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Greg Smith Posted - 11/05/2007 : 15:50:03
I'm just curious, who does everybody think is the most overrated player of all time?

Alexander Daigle is my pick.

After playing in the NHL, it's hard to watch hockey games.
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Alex Posted - 12/03/2007 : 14:58:40
quote:
Originally posted by nashvillepreds

Ya, but as you said, I'm a stats guy.

Ellis or Mason?

Go Preds Go!



OK... Well how about this stat?

Alex is gonna light up NashPreds tonight at hockey

Jokes. I might not even come... Probably will, we'll see.

Habs get number 25 this year
nashvillepreds Posted - 12/03/2007 : 14:56:28
He's talking about my list btw, I think...

Ellis or Mason?

Go Preds Go!
nashvillepreds Posted - 12/03/2007 : 14:55:44
Ya, but as you said, I'm a stats guy.

Ellis or Mason?

Go Preds Go!
Alex Posted - 12/03/2007 : 14:55:38
quote:
Originally posted by Jeremy12

of course he would
anyone would produce better with them

[IMG]http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x49/Jeremy12_24/spezza_sig21.jpg[/IMG]



28 points playing alongside guys fresh out of Junior? I have to disagree there my friend Jeremy.

Habs get number 25 this year
Alex Posted - 12/03/2007 : 14:54:30
quote:
Originally posted by nashvillepreds

Alex, if you compare all the great scorers in the league to Thornton, they all ahev a great player playing beside them.

Kovalchuk- Hossa
Lecavelier- St. Louis and Prospal
Crosby- Malkin
Ovechkin- Nylander and Semin
Iginla- Tanguay
Zetterberg- Datsyuk
Alfredsson- Heatley
Sundin- Well, nobody
Mike Richards- Briere


Then Thornton- Setoguchi???????? Michalek???????

GO PREDATORS GO



Isn't that exactly what I'm saying?!

Habs get number 25 this year
nashvillepreds Posted - 12/03/2007 : 14:44:03
Would he be leading the league in points right now, do you think?

Ellis or Mason?

Go Preds Go!
Jeremy12 Posted - 12/03/2007 : 14:21:12
of course he would
anyone would produce better with them

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nashvillepreds Posted - 12/03/2007 : 14:19:17
He would produce btter though playing guys like Tanguay or Malkin, don't you think?

Ellis or Mason?

Go Preds Go!
Jeremy12 Posted - 12/03/2007 : 14:17:22
Thorton always produce no matter who he is playing with

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nashvillepreds Posted - 12/03/2007 : 12:20:32
Alex, if you compare all the great scorers in the league to Thornton, they all ahev a great player playing beside them.

Kovalchuk- Hossa
Lecavelier- St. Louis and Prospal
Crosby- Malkin
Ovechkin- Nylander and Semin
Iginla- Tanguay
Zetterberg- Datsyuk
Alfredsson- Heatley
Sundin- Well, nobody
Mike Richards- Briere


Then Thornton- Setoguchi???????? Michalek???????

GO PREDATORS GO
nashvillepreds Posted - 12/03/2007 : 12:15:57
Sundi is single-handedly carrying the maple leafs this season. Whenever they need a big goal, he either gets it or sets it up.

Can't say I agree that he's overated.

GO PREDATORS GO
Guest9549 Posted - 12/03/2007 : 08:13:11
Mats Sundin!!! by far!! and it doesn't help that he can do no wrong in the eyes of CBC play by play announcers either.
n/a Posted - 12/03/2007 : 07:22:36
All - time most overrated: Larry Murphy

Can't remember if he's in the HOF yet or not, but yeah - soft, soft, soft. A bum, in my mind. Obviously he had skills back in the day - but WAY too overrated, IMO.
Guest7699 Posted - 12/03/2007 : 07:12:03
Pavel Bure.
Alex Posted - 12/03/2007 : 06:39:59
Exactly why he isn't performing as well.

Nash, am I playing your team tonight?

Habs get number 25 this year
nashvillepreds Posted - 12/03/2007 : 06:38:57
Also, Thornton I belive is on a line with Michalek and Setoguchi right now.

GO PREDATORS GO
Alex Posted - 12/02/2007 : 18:34:48
Kovalchuk will slow down. Either him or Hossa, which will mean him. Not incredibly, but enough to give Crosby advantage.

Iggy will keep his pace in the long run. Crosby will exceed it.

I don't know if I'd put money on Vinny slowing down enough to give Crosby number one by season's end. He might surprise us.




Kipper for Lundqvist?
nashvillepreds Posted - 12/02/2007 : 18:32:32
He's at 18 woah!

Crosby number 2 though, tied with Iginla and Kovalchuk.

GO PREDATORS GO
Alex Posted - 12/02/2007 : 18:30:02
I'm just saying

The point is everyone had him at number two. What number is he at?

Kipper for Lundqvist?
nashvillepreds Posted - 12/02/2007 : 18:29:18
He was 12 points behind Crosby at the all-star break. Crosby isn't even in first! Crosby has to catch Lecavelier before Thornton can catch him.

GO PREDATORS GO
Alex Posted - 12/02/2007 : 18:27:52
28
For someone who is supposed to be rivaling Crosby for the league lead in points. That is just above a PPG

Kipper for Lundqvist?
nashvillepreds Posted - 12/02/2007 : 18:21:43
He's actually sitting at 28 points. Thornton was another guy who didn't play with the player you mentioned the whole season, he only played with him most of the first half and some of the second half.

GO PREDATORS GO
Alex Posted - 12/02/2007 : 18:15:17
Yes. Because Thronton produced when Cheechoo was able to finish off his plays. Perfect example of someone who needs support.

Where is he this year without Cheechoo?

Kipper for Lundqvist?
nashvillepreds Posted - 12/02/2007 : 18:11:59
Glad you figured that one out at least, I am a numbers guy.

Savrd only played with Kessel ha;f the season last year and same with Sturm.

Crosby might get about 110 points this season. Joe thornton challenged him last year after only having about 60 points after the all-star break.

GO PREDATORS GO
Alex Posted - 12/02/2007 : 18:09:26
Nash, you're a numbers guy.

Savard is a point per game player this season. Crosby isnt gonna hit last years totals.

Crosby has Malkin. Savard has Sturm and Kessel.

The support isn't what makes them. I'm telling you. They'll still be where they were last yer. Their linemates will have more points than last year's, though.

Kipper for Lundqvist?
nashvillepreds Posted - 12/02/2007 : 18:07:24
Crosby was on his own last season. Savard was on his own last season. Malkin does help him though, it got him out of his little drought at the beginning of the season didn't it?

GO PREDATORS GO
Alex Posted - 12/02/2007 : 18:04:51
Ya. But he got 120 last season.

All you need is somebody who can skate and knows that the goal of the game it so take passes from Crosby and put them in the net.

Kipper for Lundqvist?
nashvillepreds Posted - 12/02/2007 : 18:04:02
quote:
Originally posted by Alex

Malkin is completed by Crosby, not the other way around.

Just look who gets all the assists! Last year it was Recchi finishing Crosby's plays, now it's Malkin. It could be anyone. Not that I'm knocking Malkin or Recchi's ability, but Crosby is the main guy, don't ever forget it!

Kipper for Lundqvist?



Not saying Malkin completes Crosby but now Crosby finally has somebody on his line that can finish off his plays instead of Armstrong or Recchi

GO PREDATORS GO
Alex Posted - 12/02/2007 : 18:01:26
Here's what Corsby likes to do

Pass -- GOAL
Pass -- GOAL
Pass -- GOAL

INterview: Mr. Crosby, to what do you attribute this great success?

(Modestly) to my teammates.

Rest of world: CROSBY IS AMAZING

Kipper for Lundqvist?
Jeremy12 Posted - 12/02/2007 : 17:58:19
heres what crosby likes to do lol

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Alex Posted - 12/02/2007 : 17:44:04
Malkin is completed by Crosby, not the other way around.

Just look who gets all the assists! Last year it was Recchi finishing Crosby's plays, now it's Malkin. It could be anyone. Not that I'm knocking Malkin or Recchi's ability, but Crosby is the main guy, don't ever forget it!

Kipper for Lundqvist?
nashvillepreds Posted - 12/02/2007 : 17:42:11
He has been on Malkin's line since maybe the first 5 games this season. There is now way Crosby is overated though.

GO PREDATORS GO
leafsfan_101 Posted - 12/02/2007 : 17:30:50
The Crosby is overrated thing is garbage. Th kid had 100+ in his first to years, was the MVP of his second year and is consistently in the top 5 in league scoring.

Crosby has no one to play with. Malkin isn't on his line. Staal isn't on his line. I think he has Recchi and some pylon. And he's still up in the top 5. Is that overrated to you??
nashvillepreds Posted - 12/02/2007 : 17:29:32
quote:
Originally posted by Guest2131

Iginla is a third line checker at best.
Overated bum who should never of been on an olympic team.......



I just don't understand one thing. If Iginla is one of the best players in the league, chosen by Gretzky to be on an olympic team and is one of the best captains in the NHL, how is he a third liner?

GO PREDATORS GO
nashvillepreds Posted - 12/02/2007 : 17:27:28
I'm guessing you lost your pool or are losing because of him.

I think Nylander is overated.

GO PREDATORS GO
nashvillepreds Posted - 12/02/2007 : 15:02:51
quote:
Originally posted by Jeremy12

Crosby

he does like the smallest thing that any player on any team can do and people on like TSN go "watch crosby make this perfect breakout pass" its just ridiculous

[IMG]http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x49/Jeremy12_24/spezza_sig21.jpg[/IMG]



I know a lot fo the broadcasting studios talk about him a lot and he's always in the newspaper but do the fans think he's overated?

GO PREDATORS GO
Jeremy12 Posted - 12/02/2007 : 13:50:24
Crosby

he does like the smallest thing that any player on any team can do and people on like TSN go "watch crosby make this perfect breakout pass" its just ridiculous

[IMG]http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x49/Jeremy12_24/spezza_sig21.jpg[/IMG]
nashvillepreds Posted - 11/28/2007 : 14:09:14
I highly doubt anybodo over 50 who has never played hockey can even hold a stick correctly.

Blake performing by himself, well I woyuldn't really call what he's doing now performing. Didn't Sundin also not score last year for like 20 games or something? And doesn't Sundin get a lot of shots as well.

As for the performing by himself commnet though, he's been doing it his whole career. who was he with last year, Yashin? Yet he still scored 40 goals and played in the all star game.

GO PREDATORS GO
Guest9252 Posted - 11/28/2007 : 10:32:25
To be over-rated you have to be rated in the first place. Unless you love or hate the leafs you are wondering who this Antropov guy is people are talking about and why people care about a guy who has 1 goal in his last 12 games...

If you want to find an over-rated player on Toronto try Jason Blake. Last year he played on a 'more skilled' line and now that he is being forced to perform practically on his own in Toronto he has not been able to. I am not trying to be mean here and did not forget about what he has had to go through but when you are 5th in the league with 110 shots on net -and only have 2 goals to show for it... well lets just say that I am fairly confident that the average person over the age of 50 who has never played hockey in their life could beat a 1.8% shooting average with any goalie in the league.
nashvillepreds Posted - 11/27/2007 : 15:18:09
quote:
Originally posted by Guest4912

Hey Antrom-man, WERE BACK and I just want to start off by saying that Brian Lawton is not nearly as over rated as one Nik Antropov, he has been terrible for the leafs. Antropov is an absolute joke along with the team that he plays for.



Most people already know he isn't leading scorer material, I think a lot of people got caught up with him for a bit when he was 3rd in league scoring and 5th in points.

GO PREDATORS GO

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