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| Guest4271 |
Posted - 01/04/2010 : 22:46:53
Well, all those people that thought Bergeron didn't deserve to be on Team Canada, may get wish after all. Don't know the seriousness of the injury, but he took a shot in the arm/wrist area. So who takes his place if he can't go......... I know there is a long list, but what does Stevie Y say |
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| Guest7886 |
Posted - 01/07/2010 : 07:48:35
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As an Ottawa fan you remember that this is the 1st year Fisher has played with someone (other than when Alfredson came of the top line) who you would consider a top 6 offensive threat to score.
Had I not watched any of the games and were I going off of pure stats, I would be inclined to agree with you. As it is though, Kovalev is more of a detriment than a help. He just drifts and doesn't really help at all, until he decides to show up for a hat trick or more once every 10 games or so. It might afford Fisher a bit more open ice just by virtue of his name & the opposing team wanting to cover him more, but beyond that he's been a bust in my eyes.
The fact that Fisher has been good this year is more of a credit to him, in my opinion, than it has to do with Kovalev. Even if it did, Alfie's better and way more consistent than Kovalev, and Fisher still didn't amaze in previous years when he was playing with him.
Don't get me wrong... Fisher's a good player and I'm glad he's playing for the Sens, but there's better players available for building an Olympic team.
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I am not shocked by his production this year and would even venture to say Spezza's time in Ottawa has a due date to free up top center spot for Fisher.
I don't disagree with this, actually. Spezza's been getting lazier and hasn't been producing as much as he should be. His play has been degrading over the past couple of years, which is odd considering most players improve in his age range. He makes twice the amount of money that Fisher does, which is why I could see him moving if they could get good value in return. With the salary cap though, it's not often you see 8mil dollar players getting moved. |
| HawkinOilCountry |
Posted - 01/07/2010 : 07:45:51
When Pittsburgh and Carolina were playing each other in the playoffs last year and a lot of sportscasters were discussing the 'Battle of the Staals' I sat back and wondered what would happen if you got Jordan and Eric on the same team.
If they have any kind of on-ice chemistry with each other, which I'm pretty confident they would, that could be one scary-as-hell line.
The arena wall in chicago should be credited with a goal. |
| n/a |
Posted - 01/07/2010 : 05:49:53
Jordan Staal . . . I don't know, he is one guy that is very, very tough to figure out. Especially so since he is relegated to third line status on the champ's team because of two guys called Crosby and Malkin.
If you can score 13 goals, 16 assists in 44 games on the third line (playing with nobodies), that to me means you could be getting 35, 40 goals and 80+ points on a scoring line. Well, I say that knowing that he has the skill and finesse to do that, on top of his size. He was fairly streaky earlier in his career, but he seems to have settled down now and has definitely become a consistent, hard-nosed checker who can hurt you in a second on the scoresheet.
But does the best third line centre in the league translate well into a third or fourth line role on an all-star team? You bet it does!
So yeah, I wouldn't mind if Jordan Staal were picked either.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 01/06/2010 : 22:10:12
I'd say we're in "wait and see mode". Personally, i think Bergeron's along for defensive faceoffs and pk for the most part. That's just my guess. The latest i heard on the radio (Ray Ferraro i believe) had Carter, Staal and Smyth as the likely replacements if Bergeron can't go. That to me makes me think my guess is right as to where he's gonna play.
One name i heard the other day thrown out to possibly play with Crosby was Eric Staal (on the right wing). The more talk i hear, the more it looks as though Iginla would be the one playing on a lower line? |
| Guest2678 |
Posted - 01/06/2010 : 19:06:00
At least according to the hockey insiders it defintely sounds like Bergeron is slotted in to play the wing on Sidney Crosbys line.
While the Olympics don't appear to be in jeopardy for Bergeron, if such a thing he was to re-injure the wrist, i don't think they'd consider a guy like Jordan Staal to fill the void. I don't know if Staal was in the mix at all, but he'd be a better fit to replace a guy like Mike Richards. Even then, i don't think Staal would make it. |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 01/06/2010 : 15:04:36
The reason it's so tough to figure out who might replace him is we really didn't know what sort of role he would have (or still will) played? I've heard speculation he'd be re-united with Crosby although i personally doubt it. We heard others saying he's a 4th liner / faceoff / pk specialist? Yet others say he is/was prob the extra (13th) forward and may not even play?
Depending on the role, i could see J. Staal having a shot but there are def others who may have it before him? |
| umteman |
Posted - 01/06/2010 : 14:35:42
What do you think are the chances of Jordan Staal taking Bergeron's place on the roster?
Did you hear about the retired proctologist? He spent 40 years saying "what's a place like this doing in a girl like you?" |
| JOSHUACANADA |
Posted - 01/06/2010 : 14:01:35
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Originally posted by Guest7886
As an Ottawa fan, I actually hope Fisher doesn't make it. I don't view him as being on the same level as Smyth or Brad Richards or Doan.
He's having a career year, yes, but you really can't be sure how much of a flash in the pan this year's results are and whether they'll hold up through the Olympics. We're also a team, Fisher included, that consistently underperform in the playoffs and those aren't as as high-pressure as the Olympics are going to be.
I'd just prefer someone who consistently puts up 70+ points and is just as much of a grinder. Off the top of my head, I don't even think Fisher breaks the 70s for points when you combine the past 2 years in which he only missed ~5 games... That doesn't inspire too much confidence.
As an Ottawa fan you remember that this is the 1st year Fisher has played with someone (other than when Alfredson came of the top line) who you would consider a top 6 offensive threat to score. In the years past Fisher and Vermette produced ok with whoever the linemate was but not on the level of the 1st line. When Vermette moved on, he was religated to a defensive role while they tried out a host of players on the 2nd line. He has always been considered a 2way player 1st, with excellent defensive skills and lots of speed and offensive potential. Now with good caliber linemates and top line ice time he has finally showing everyone why he was signed for the money he has. I am not shocked by his production this year and would even venture to say Spezza's time in Ottawa has a due date to free up top center spot for Fisher. |
| Guest7886 |
Posted - 01/06/2010 : 13:14:50
As an Ottawa fan, I actually hope Fisher doesn't make it. I don't view him as being on the same level as Smyth or Brad Richards or Doan.
He's having a career year, yes, but you really can't be sure how much of a flash in the pan this year's results are and whether they'll hold up through the Olympics. We're also a team, Fisher included, that consistently underperform in the playoffs and those aren't as as high-pressure as the Olympics are going to be.
I'd just prefer someone who consistently puts up 70+ points and is just as much of a grinder. Off the top of my head, I don't even think Fisher breaks the 70s for points when you combine the past 2 years in which he only missed ~5 games... That doesn't inspire too much confidence. |
| n/a |
Posted - 01/06/2010 : 10:52:20
I would be relieved to have any of the three mentioned - Fisher, Carter or Smyth - replace Bergeron. A step up in my mind.
Fisher - playing his very best right now, so you're going with the hot hand. He dishes out hits, displays a lot of grit and tenacity, and is the only reason Ottawa isn't in the toilet this year in my mind. Great player to plug in as either a forward replacement on a scoring line, or in a checking role.
Carter - the other half of the dynamic penalty killing duo with Mike Richards. Also a fast, dynamic player who can pass and score at an elite level, so he can be plugged in anywhere - even on the fourth line, with his grit. At the least, he is on the PK unit.
Smyth - also pretty versatile, he could be plugged into a scoring forward position, or be put in any situation where we need a guy in front of the net. Specifically, against the great goalies (Finland, Sweden, Russia, and of course the US), we need a guy like him to create traffic. Would also fit perfectly into a checking role.
I would have chosen any of these three over Bergeron in the first place (and many others).
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
| Odin |
Posted - 01/06/2010 : 10:44:22
Sorry, forgot to sign in.
Man, Fisher just gets no respect does he? I think he would be a fine addition to team Canada, and far from being a step down from Bergeron, I believe this would also be a sideways step, Fisher just brings different things to the table.
A look at the stats: Bergeron: 41 GP, 31 pts, +4, 28 hits, 29 blocked shots 14PM.
Fisher: 41 GP, 32 pts, +10, 127 hits, 44 blocked shots 21PM.
How is that a step down? It could very well be argued that it is actually a step up. Fisher brings it big time at both ends of the ice, skates like the wind and knows how to hit, and hit well without drawing stupid penalties, other than retaliation against the other team. He is also EXTREMELY responsible defensively. He would make a great checking center for them (even though he probably wouldn't be a center that option would be there).
Perhaps Carrie has brought something out of him nobody else could! |
| Guest2622 |
Posted - 01/06/2010 : 10:42:34
Man, Fisher just gets no respect does he? I think he would be a fine addition to team Canada, and far from being a step down from Bergeron, I believe this would also be a sideways step, Fisher just brings different things to the table.
A look at the stats: Bergeron: 41 GP, 31 pts, +4, 28 hits, 29 blocked shots 14PM.
Fisher: 41 GP, 32 pts, +10, 127 hits, 44 blocked shots 21PM.
How is that a step down? It could very well be argued that it is actually a step up. Fisher brings it big time at both ends of the ice, skates like the wind and knows how to hit, and hit well without drawing stupid penalties, other than retaliation against the other team. He is also EXTREMELY responsible defensively. He would make a great checking center for them.
Perhaps Carrie has brought something out of him nobody else could! |
| Guest2667 |
Posted - 01/05/2010 : 15:35:30
They were saying on TSN tonight that he'll only miss 2 weeks & will be ready for the Olympics. |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 01/05/2010 : 15:29:49
Can't recall who it was but i wanna say Bob Mackenzie who said today on the radio that Carter was the leading candidate? I was a little surprised. |
| sharksfan44 |
Posted - 01/05/2010 : 14:48:03
wow! six weeks. that could very well be it for bergeron
http://www.ctvolympics.ca/hockey/news/newsid=24732.html?cid=rsstsn
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| HawkinOilCountry |
Posted - 01/05/2010 : 14:06:42
Fisher and Carter would be steps down from Bergeron. Brad Richards or St. Louis would be either a step sideways or a step up. Hope it's just Piere McGuire being retarded.
The arena wall in chicago should be credited with a goal. |
| Sensfan101 |
Posted - 01/05/2010 : 12:56:10
Pierre Mcguire said this on the radio to day it will be 2-3 weeks but if he is not ready in time Fisher Carter and Smyth are the 3 leading candidates
You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 01/05/2010 : 09:30:31
If it's not a crazy break and does not require surgery one would think he would be healed enough in the next 4-6 weeks to be ready to go for the Games.
Although I don't wish injury on anyone at anytime, the oportunistic in my hopes that IF there are any injuries, they happen with enough time to fill the roster.
What would really suck is to see a couple of key injuries in the first game or two. Not only for the Olympics but for the sake of the future Olympics. Gary B is just looking for a reason to shut down Sochi, and a key injury to a big name star that put him out for the year is just the kind of this that Bettman would hang his hat on.
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| Guest2672 |
Posted - 01/05/2010 : 09:26:48
As a big Brad Richards supporter, i love for him to somehow get a chance to play at the Vancouver Games.
That said, i don't wish injury on anyone, especially a guy like Bergeron with the injury troubles he's had to go through in recent years.
And on this topic, lets just say Bergeron broke his wrist & can't go to the Olympics...would Yzerman & company name the replacement right away, or what until a week or two before the Olympics? |
| Guest0482 |
Posted - 01/05/2010 : 07:44:53
i like this |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 01/04/2010 : 23:33:19
Looks like he took it off the back of the glove near his thumb? Could be something broken in there? Guess we'll prob hear in the next day or so?
Wonder if this would heal in time as it's not an injury that would keep him off skates but it would affect his game as he'd be rusty coming back? It'll be interesting to see what happens here.... |
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