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| nuxfan |
Posted - 09/27/2011 : 16:53:03
So far Shanahan has put his mark on NHL discipline. and has shown he's willing to get tough on those that break the rules. Several multi-game suspensions, and strong ones for things that might have been a single game last year, if at all.
Do you like how Shanahan has dealt with infractions, or is it too much? |
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| Sensfan101 |
Posted - 10/09/2011 : 16:49:31
I loved the Phaneuf hit that is the type of hit that has I place in the game. I also loved Da Costa's reaction he just smiled and said it was his fault
You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky |
| Pasty7 |
Posted - 10/09/2011 : 13:38:54
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Originally posted by slozo
Also wanted to add, after the epic hit last night by Phaneuf on an Ottawa rookie - great job by the refs to not call it a penalty, and great job not to suspend by Shanny.
Yahoo wrote on how wrong Cherry was that hits like this were never going to be seen again:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Video-Dion-Phaneuf-levels-Stephane-Da-Costa;_ylt=AuAORu5mLywhAA_0lnWqPuh7vLYF?urn=nhl-wp14374
I was at this game, btw. It was an epic hit to see live, and kudos to the kid for getting off the ice on his own two feet.
Coming over the blueline with the puck head down . . . and a clean check with shoulder kept down to the body. What a beautiful hockey play that was.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
Could agree more Slozo last night the first thing i thought when i saw the Phaneuf hit was what a perfect example to kids of a beautiful hockey play proving this still and will always be a contact sport regardless of headshots!
another great example on the same night and perhaps a better non call was i believe Sarich on Cooke last night, the reason i say a better non call,, is not because it was a better or more devestating hit, but because he did catch a lot of Cookes head but Sarich did not leave his feet he came right at him from directly infront of Cooke and was obviously targetting Cookes body and cooke just had his head down so he got a bit of the hit on his head, this is a great example of the Ref`s and Shanny realizing when the player being hit is at fault for the contact to the head
"I led the league in "Go get 'em next time." - Bob Uecker
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| n/a |
Posted - 10/09/2011 : 12:44:04
Also wanted to add, after the epic hit last night by Phaneuf on an Ottawa rookie - great job by the refs to not call it a penalty, and great job not to suspend by Shanny.
Yahoo wrote on how wrong Cherry was that hits like this were never going to be seen again:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Video-Dion-Phaneuf-levels-Stephane-Da-Costa;_ylt=AuAORu5mLywhAA_0lnWqPuh7vLYF?urn=nhl-wp14374
I was at this game, btw. It was an epic hit to see live, and kudos to the kid for getting off the ice on his own two feet.
Coming over the blueline with the puck head down . . . and a clean check with shoulder kept down to the body. What a beautiful hockey play that was.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
| n/a |
Posted - 10/09/2011 : 12:32:57
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Which half dozen Slozo? I bet you can't name them without looking up hours of youtube vids.
Why would my ability at perfect recall for such things prove or disprove my contention that many of Chara's past infractions should have been suspendable offences?
And if I were to be able to remember three or 4 specific ones . . . um, how else would I point them out to you so that you could comment on whether they were suspendable or not?
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
| ToXXiK1 |
Posted - 10/08/2011 : 20:50:09
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Originally posted by slozo
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b]No love for Chara? Which of the half dozen or so are you speaking of? You mean all of the ones he didn't get suspended for? The one in Montreal by chance that was heavily reviewed by the NHL authorities and was cleared for?[/b]
No, I got no love for Chara, just as I have no love for unnecessary bold type.
Yes, I am referring to the half dozen incidents that he has not been suspended for that he should have been, IMHO. Including the Pacioretty hit which you refer to.
You know, sometimes people disagree with officials who make rulings, Toxxik. And from what I have seen so far, Shanahan was one of them, and is now in a position to rectify that in the future by being that head official.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
Which half dozen Slozo? I bet you can't name them without looking up hours of youtube vids. |
| n/a |
Posted - 10/06/2011 : 10:42:27
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b]No love for Chara? Which of the half dozen or so are you speaking of? You mean all of the ones he didn't get suspended for? The one in Montreal by chance that was heavily reviewed by the NHL authorities and was cleared for?[/b]
No, I got no love for Chara, just as I have no love for unnecessary bold type.
Yes, I am referring to the half dozen incidents that he has not been suspended for that he should have been, IMHO. Including the Pacioretty hit which you refer to.
You know, sometimes people disagree with officials who make rulings, Toxxik. And from what I have seen so far, Shanahan was one of them, and is now in a position to rectify that in the future by being that head official.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
| ToXXiK1 |
Posted - 10/06/2011 : 08:38:26
[quote]Originally posted by slozo
Love the explanations, love the length of suspensions being given out so far. They are actually of a value that might act as a deterrent, which is nice to see.
As stated earlier by myself and others here, just hope the standard applies fairly to the star players.
Can't wait for Chara to get suspended, myself. That guy should have been suspended a half dozen times already, and I think he might well be the first star to get it, lol.
No love for Chara? Which of the half dozen or so are you speaking of? You mean all of the ones he didn't get suspended for? The one in Montreal by chance that was heavily reviewed by the NHL authorities and was cleared for?
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| ToXXiK1 |
Posted - 10/06/2011 : 08:35:12
Great job Shanny, about time someone has the STONES to do this, keep up the good work !! |
| fat_elvis_rocked |
Posted - 09/29/2011 : 15:15:24
I'm wondering if Neil wasn't expecting Grabovski to take the pass from the player lugging the puck?
If so, I can see where he would line up for the hit and cause the turnover, still, he had plenty of time to let up, and turning his shoulder in to the hit makes it look pretty blatant in m opinion, and should probably warrant a suspension.
Regarding the Crosby incident that 'Pitbull' Slozo brings up....I still don't buy it my friend, but I applaud your tenacity.  |
| Sensfan101 |
Posted - 09/29/2011 : 14:40:08
Yes Neil probabely should have let up when he was defenseless Grabo skating right into him but if a guy skates into you what are you supposed to do let him knock you over or move you out of position?
You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky |
| Pasty7 |
Posted - 09/29/2011 : 04:31:38
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Originally posted by Sensfan101
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Originally posted by slozo
Neil's hit should be a suspension IMHO, yes.
Just like Steckel's hit on Crosby was an obvious suspension IMHO.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
The Neil hit looked bad at first and I was sure he would be suspended but they showed a different angle on that's hockey tonight and it clearly showed Grabovski skating with his head down right into Neil. In order for Neil not to make contact with Grabovski Neil would have had to move and let the puck carrier get passed him. Also believe it or not Neil is not a repeat offender which I'm sure factored into the decision not to suspend him
You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky
Neil `s intent is very verry clear to me he looks right at Grabovski and imo turns to skate right into Grabo`s line takeing full adavantage of the situation
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| Alex116 |
Posted - 09/28/2011 : 21:20:09
Dunno, but it looked to me like he could have avoided the contact, and clearly he sees Grabo coming. I don't know about the hit on Crosby, i'm still torn on that one as being a little more incidental. |
| Sensfan101 |
Posted - 09/28/2011 : 19:04:56
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Originally posted by slozo
Neil's hit should be a suspension IMHO, yes.
Just like Steckel's hit on Crosby was an obvious suspension IMHO.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
The Neil hit looked bad at first and I was sure he would be suspended but they showed a different angle on that's hockey tonight and it clearly showed Grabovski skating with his head down right into Neil. In order for Neil not to make contact with Grabovski Neil would have had to move and let the puck carrier get passed him. Also believe it or not Neil is not a repeat offender which I'm sure factored into the decision not to suspend him
You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky |
| ryan93 |
Posted - 09/28/2011 : 18:50:34
I've been swamped at work the past few weeks & haven't seen highlights of any of the hits, so i can't really comment on the job Shanahan is doing. Every time i check my twitter feed on my phone though, it seems all the talk is related to questionable hits/suspensions, can't say i ever remember a pre-season quite like it! |
| n/a |
Posted - 09/28/2011 : 18:40:05
Neil's hit should be a suspension IMHO, yes.
Just like Steckel's hit on Crosby was an obvious suspension IMHO.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
| Leafs81 |
Posted - 09/28/2011 : 15:22:26
It seems to be the talk of the hour with all those suspensions. Shanahan sure is busy. So far I like it but will he find consistency no matter the outcome. Right now I'm wondering what will happen with the hit Neil on Grabovski that happened yesterday. Here's the link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lno7clSS2J0
To me it's a hit to the head when a player doesn't have the puck and is not expecting it. Was it just a collision or a hit, the motion of Neil's shoulder towards the head tells me it's a hit. |
| Guest6786 |
Posted - 09/28/2011 : 12:50:11
Wisniewski is definitely going to have to tweak his game just a little bit. there is no way Columbus management and coaching staff want a player making $5.5M a season to be serving multi-game suspensions. he's already missing the first 8 games of the season! other players be warned! |
| n/a |
Posted - 09/28/2011 : 10:34:38
Love the explanations, love the length of suspensions being given out so far. They are actually of a value that might act as a deterrent, which is nice to see.
As stated earlier by myself and others here, just hope the standard applies fairly to the star players.
Can't wait for Chara to get suspended, myself. That guy should have been suspended a half dozen times already, and I think he might well be the first star to get it, lol.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
| TheRC |
Posted - 09/28/2011 : 06:57:26
I like the video explanations, I think most of the decisions have been fair, and I like that repeat offenders in particular get some stiff penalties. I'd say Shanahan is doing well, but (and I'll admit this is a bit hipocritical) I hope things slow down soon. I do not want to be seeing multiple game suspensions every day or two all season long. Hopefully this is just a period of players adjusting to the new rules and the league wanting to make strong showing to start the season so that nobody can complain about unfair suspensions later.
"If at first you don't succeed, you fail" |
| Guest3827 |
Posted - 09/27/2011 : 19:04:18
I think Shanahan's done a great job so far. A few things I really like;
- He is putting the responsibility for the play on the player making the hit (no more of this "the player shouldn't have been facing the boards" excuse)
- He is handing out suspensions which actually will have an impact. I can't remember the last time a player got suspended for more than 2 games (I remember Downie got 20 (?) a while back). Players will be less likely to do something stupid if they know a 5-8 game suspension is a real possibility.
- He is giving out suspensions to players with no past history (albeit less harsh, as it should be). As stated in the Boyes suspension video, he will henceforth be considered a repeat offender. No more of this "no suspension since he's never been suspended before" excuse (which gets used 2-3 times for the same player... Chara anyone?)
The only thing that remains to be seen is how consistent the suspensions will be, both in terms of one play to another and in terms of star-status of the player. I guess we'll have to wait and see if/when one of M.Richards/Ovechkin/Chara makes a stupid hit.
On a side note, I wonder if possible suspensions will have an impact on fantasy drafts. Probably not for this year, but if a guy like Wisniewski has the possibility of being suspended for 10+ games (already guaranteed 8) over a season, that could drop him a few picks/rounds. |
| just1n |
Posted - 09/27/2011 : 16:55:57
We'll see how he keeps up into the regular season, but I like the video explanations for sure. Let's you know the substance behind his reasoning, so that helps. |
| nuxfan |
Posted - 09/27/2011 : 16:54:01
I, for one, like the trend a lot. |
