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| admin |
Posted - 11/29/2006 : 10:02:20
Which of these soon to be unrestricted free agents will be the most sought after? |
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| Ryan Harper |
Posted - 12/04/2006 : 11:06:42
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no no no, I'm not comparing him to Morrisson, I'm saying he suffers from the same economic symptoms.
I also agree that Briere WILL get more money. I'm just saying that he's not worth 5 million let alone the money he will probably get. He's a good player on a GREAT team and therefore it looks like he is great too. He's not. He is just good. maybe 3 million good if he can stay healthy.
How do you figure that Briere will get 'maybe 3 million'. He was awarded $5 million this year by an arbitrator - which I recognize is a flawed system and he was awarded too much. But there is no way he gets less than $5 million per. I can see a 4 or 5 year deal for around $20-25 million.
"Some people skate to the puck. I skate to where the puck is going to be."
~Wayne Gretzky
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| B-rett10 |
Posted - 12/03/2006 : 20:20:15
Briere! |
| leigh |
Posted - 11/30/2006 : 11:41:36
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Originally posted by Ryan Harper
Leigh were you on the sauce when you came up with this crap? OK, you know as well as I do that his career stats have little to do with what he will be going for on the open market next season. There is no way you could sign this guy for $2.5 million. He is built for the new NHL. He may have been decent player but he is now an elite player. He is well over a point a game this season and comparing him to Brendan Morrison is laughable. Morrison had two superstars along side of him allowing him to pile up some good numbers. Still nothing close to What Briere has doen this season. Oh yah, When was the last time Brendan Morrison led his team to game 7 of the conference finals? Thats right Briere broguht it during the playoffs last year too.
The only point you make that I agree with is his health. But again, the game has changed and a little guy like Briere has a better chance of staying healthy considering the Basketball on ice league that Bettman has transformed our once great game into - but thats another story for another day. Bottom line, 49% of the insanely hockey savvy PickupHockey audience agrees. Briere is the most saught after and will get paid this summer.
"Some people skate to the puck. I skate to where the puck is going to be."
~Wayne Gretzky
no no no, I'm not comparing him to Morrisson, I'm saying he suffers from the same economic symptoms.
I also agree that Briere WILL get more money. I'm just saying that he's not worth 5 million let alone the money he will probably get. He's a good player on a GREAT team and therefore it looks like he is great too. He's not. He is just good. maybe 3 million good if he can stay healthy. |
| Ryan Harper |
Posted - 11/30/2006 : 09:24:01
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Originally posted by leigh
Briere is a decent player on a team that has great chemistry. Although he is just coming into his prime, his stats don't lie: 311 points in 426 games over 10 seasons (and only 24 post-season games). That barely categorizes him as good, let alone "the league maximum". He's below a point a game right now while playing on the hottest team in the league. I think this is a time where the GM has to stay real and pull on the financial reigns a bit. $5 million for this guy? No way! Don't get me wrong, I like the guy, but I like him a lot more a $2.5 million.
He suffers from a classic case of Brendan Morisson syndrom (a few years back anyway). A hot streak to get some money, followed by average play that was masked by the success of a strong team surrounding him.
Babs is right too, in 10 seasons he has averaged 40 games a season. So if you give him top dollar you're really paying double that!
Leigh were you on the sauce when you came up with this crap? OK, you know as well as I do that his career stats have little to do with what he will be going for on the open market next season. There is no way you could sign this guy for $2.5 million. He is built for the new NHL. He may have been decent player but he is now an elite player. He is well over a point a game this season and comparing him to Brendan Morrison is laughable. Morrison had two superstars along side of him allowing him to pile up some good numbers. Still nothing close to What Briere has doen this season. Oh yah, When was the last time Brendan Morrison led his team to game 7 of the conference finals? Thats right Briere broguht it during the playoffs last year too.
The only point you make that I agree with is his health. But again, the game has changed and a little guy like Briere has a better chance of staying healthy considering the Basketball on ice league that Bettman has transformed our once great game into - but thats another story for another day. Bottom line, 49% of the insanely hockey savvy PickupHockey audience agrees. Briere is the most saught after and will get paid this summer.
"Some people skate to the puck. I skate to where the puck is going to be."
~Wayne Gretzky
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| leigh |
Posted - 11/29/2006 : 17:40:05
Briere is a decent player on a team that has great chemistry. Although he is just coming into his prime, his stats don't lie: 311 points in 426 games over 10 seasons (and only 24 post-season games). That barely categorizes him as good, let alone "the league maximum". He's below a point a game right now while playing on the hottest team in the league. I think this is a time where the GM has to stay real and pull on the financial reigns a bit. $5 million for this guy? No way! Don't get me wrong, I like the guy, but I like him a lot more a $2.5 million.
He suffers from a classic case of Brendan Morisson syndrom (a few years back anyway). A hot streak to get some money, followed by average play that was masked by the success of a strong team surrounding him.
Babs is right too, in 10 seasons he has averaged 40 games a season. So if you give him top dollar you're really paying double that! |
| bablaboushka |
Posted - 11/29/2006 : 16:42:42
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Originally posted by bablaboushka
He is doing well, I won't take that away from him, but to me he is too much of a health risk to dish out franchise money on.
I made sure that was clear. I know he's an extremely skilled player but he has a history of injury problems. It's pretty much the same case as Forsberg or Gaborik. They all deserve franchise money but they aren't much help when they aren't healthy, which happens to occur more frequently than it should for that kind of money. |
| NuckH8R |
Posted - 11/29/2006 : 15:52:41
Dont you think you are being a bit harsh on one of the NHL's leading scorers. He is the best player on the best team in the league. I bet Briere gets the league maximum.
--Gaborik, Demitra, Rolston-- |
| Mikhailova |
Posted - 11/29/2006 : 13:18:33
I said Teemu Selanne |
| Guest4401 |
Posted - 11/29/2006 : 12:53:48
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Originally posted by bablaboushka
Briere being sought after? I know there are some dumb GMs out there but no one should pay him $5 million/year. He is doing well, I won't take that away from him, but to me he is too much of a health risk to dish out franchise money on. I think closer to $3.5-4 million would suit him better but after being awarded $5 million as a SETTLEMENT, I think he'll be asking closer to 6.
I certainly agree with you! The thing Briere has going for him is that he is just about the only player most people can name on Buffalo. He's the face of the franchise and therefore gets most of the credit for their success. Ergo, he is going to get the big bucks, deserved or not.
I voted for him for that reason only, and that conformed to the poll question. Not because he is the most deserving |
| bablaboushka |
Posted - 11/29/2006 : 10:47:45
I voted for Pavel Datsyuk. He is making close to $4 million this year which is much more than his performance is worth. On the other hand, he just needs a change of scenery (yes, already). Datsyuk needs who can finish off his plays and start them for him. He needs to be part of a Heatley-Spezza-Alfredsson type combo. Most of us thought that playing with Zetterberg would be enough, but he is also struggling. I think he would do much better in the Eastern Conference... wouldn't it be nice if Washington could sign him so that Ovechkin would have someone to play with.
Briere being sought after? I know there are some dumb GMs out there but no one should pay him $5 million/year. He is doing well, I won't take that away from him, but to me he is too much of a health risk to dish out franchise money on. I think closer to $3.5-4 million would suit him better but after being awarded $5 million as a SETTLEMENT, I think he'll be asking closer to 6. |
| admin |
Posted - 11/29/2006 : 10:11:02
Here is a full list I found on a sporting news forum http://forums.sportingnews.com/viewtopic.php?p=1393673
I am not sure if it is 100% accurate.
Name, Current Team, Age in 2007, Current Salary
Left Wingers:
Vyacheslav Kozlov - ATL - 34 - 2,014,000
Marco Sturm - BOS - 28 - 2,100,000
Jeff Friesen - CGY - 30 - 1,600,000
Ray Whitney - CAR - 35 - 1,500,000
Andrew Brunette - COL - 33 - 800,000
Steve Konowalchuk - COL - 34 - 1,900,000
Fredrik Modin - CLB - 32 - 2,204,000
Brendan Morrow - DAL - 28 - 2,200,000
Ryan Smyth - EDM - 31 - 3,500,000
Petr Sykora - EDM - 30 - 2,900,000
Martin Gelinas - FLA - 37 - 975,000
Gary Roberts - FLA - 41 - 2,250,000
Paul Kariya - NSH - 32 - 4,500,000
Brendan Shanahan - NYR - 38 - 4,000,000
Martin Straka - NYR - 34 - 3,100,000
Kyle Calder - PHI - 28 - 2,950,000
Ladislav Nagy - PHX - 28 - 3,000,000
Owen Nolan - PHX - 35 - 1,250,000
John LeClair - PIT - 37 - 1,500,000
Nils Ekman - PIT - 31 - 1,100,000
Keith Tkachuk - STL - 35 - 3,800,000
Richard Zednik - WSH - 31 - 1,976,000
Right Wingers:
Teemu Selanne - ANA - 37 - 3,750,000
Scott Mellanby - ATL - 41 - 1,000,000
Tony Amonte - CGY - 36 - 1,850,000
Scott Walker - CAR - 33 - 1,520,000
Ian Laperierre - COL - 33 - 1,064,000
Stu Barnes - DAL - 36 - 1,140,000
Jere Lehtinen - DAL - 34 - 2,774,000
Tomas Holmstrom - DET - 34 - 1,501,000
Kirk Maltby - DET - RW - 34 - 1,368,000
Todd Bertuzzi - FLA - 32 - 5,269,080
Mike Johnson - MTL - 32 - 1.900.000
Alexander Mogilny - NJD - 38 - 3,500,000
Sergei Brylin - NJD - 33 - 1,520,000
Jason Blake - NYI - 33 - 1,558,000
Mike Knuble - PHI - 35 - 1,520,000
Sami Kapanen - PHI - 34 - 1,520,000
Shane Doan - PHX - 30 - 3,382,000
Mark Recchi - PIT - 39 - 2,280,000
Bill Guerin - STL - 36 - 2,000,000
Ruslan Fedotenko - TBL - 28 - 1,650,000
Darcy Tucker - TOR - 32 - 1,596,000
Jeff O'Neill - TOR - 31 - 1,500,000
Jan Bulis - Van - 29 - 1,300,000
Dainius Zubrus - WSH - 29 - 1,850,000
Centres:
Daniel Briere - BUF - 29 - 5,000,000
Chris Drury - BUF - 30 - 3,154,000
Michal Handzus - CHI - 30 - 2,128,000
Bryan Smolinski - CHI - 35 - 1,520,000
Joe Sakic - COL - 37 - 5,750,000
Pierre Turgeon - COL - 37 - 1,500,000
Tyler Arnason - COL - 28 - 950,000
Eric Lindros - DAL - 34 - 1,550,000
Pavel Datsyuk - DET - 28 - 3,900,000
Robert Lang - DET - 36 - 3,800,000
Joe Nieuwendyk - FLA - 40 - 2,250,000
Jozef Stumple - FLA - 35 - 1,750,000
Todd White - MIN - 32 - 1,550,000
Wes Walz - MIN - 37 - 1,368,000
Radek Bonk - MTL - 31 - 2,394,000
Mike York - NYI - 29 - 2,850,000
Michael Nylander - NYR - 34 - 2,280,000
Peter Forsberg - PHI - 33 - 5,750,000
Petr Nedved - PHI - 35 - 2,356,000
Jeremy Roenick - PHX - 37 - 1,200,000
Mike Ricci - PHX - 35 - 1,520,000
Mike Peca - TOR - 33 - 2,500,000
Goalies:
Jean-Sebastien Giguere - ANA - 30 - 3,990,000
Martin Biron - BUF - 29 - 2,128,000
Patrick Lalime - CHI - 32 - 700,000
Dominik Hasek - DET - 42 - 750,000
Ed Belfour - FLA - 42 - 750,000
Dan Cloutier - LAK - 31 - 2,550,000
Mathieu Garon - LAK - 29 - 1,216,000
David Aebischer - MTL - 29 - 1,900,000
Tomas Vokoun - NSH - 30 - 2,280,000
Robert Esche - PHI - 29 - 1,000,000
Antero Niitymaki - PHI - 30 - 1,000,000
Curtis Joseph - PHX - 40 - 2,000,000
Jocelyn Thibault - PIT - 1,500,000
Manny Legace - STL - 34 - 1,400,000
Sean Burke - TBL - 40 - 1,600,000
Defense:
Sean O'Donnell - ANA - 35 - 1,520,000
Andy Sutton - ATL - 29 - 2,000,000
Greg de Vries - ATL - 33 - 2,052,000
Teppo Numminen - BUF - 39 - 2,600,000
Roman Hamrlik - CGY - 33 - 3,500,000
Glen Wesley - CAR - 38 - 1,200,000
Patrice Brisebois - COL - 36 - 3,000,000
Bryan Berard - CLB - 30 - 2,500,000
Janne Niinimaa - DAL - 32 - 2,508,000
Darryl Sydor - DAL - 35 - 2,128,000
Chris Chelios - DET - 45 - 850,000
Danny Markov - DET - 30 - 2,500,000
Mathieu Schneider - DET - 38 - 3,300,000
Steve Staios - EDM - 33 - 1,615,000
Aaron Miller - LA - 35 - 2,280,000
Andrei Markov - MTL - 28 - 2,000,000
Sheldon Souray - MTL - 30 - 2,432,000
Kimmo Timonen - NSH - 32 - 2,280,000
Brian Rafalski - NJD - 33 - 4,200,000
Sean Hill - NYI - 37 - 600,000
Tom Poti - NYI - 30 - 2,750,000
Chris Phillips - OTT - 29 - 2,204,000
Tom Preissing - OTT - 28 - 600,000
Scott Hannan - SJS - 28 - 2,204,000
Eric Brewer - STL - 28 - 2,014,000
Luke Richardson - TBL - 38 - 500,000
Cory Sarich - TBL - 28 - 1,900,000
Sami Salo - VAN - 33 - 1,500,000
Jamie Heward - WSH - 36 - 675,000
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