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| leafsfan_101 |
Posted - 03/03/2007 : 08:23:11
Thanks to Tctitans great idea, lets get a seperate G.O.A.T. Draft.
People So Far:
Me
Tctitans
Patchy
Saku Steen
chooch
And invites go to;
Novie
Canucks Man
ultimatetitman
We need 10, so if anyone else is interested post. I want to know who will be in this draft by Tonight at 7:00 e.t., so post if you are in. (for our vancouver and edmonton fans, you got till 7:00 pm, p.t.(Is that the time you use :S)
We can start the draft on Sunday. Sorry for the timing, but I think in 7 hours we should get the desired number. We can choose who goes first to last by doing what the others did. Tctitans, assign numbers and I will choose random numbers soo we get the order(if you don't understand look at the G.O.A.T. forum).
Can't wait to hear from everyone.
LeafsFan_101
Long Live Leafs Nation!! |
| 40 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| Saku Steen |
Posted - 04/02/2007 : 03:55:51
quote:
Originally posted by leafsfan_101
So who will make the poll?? Me, TC, CM, who wants to do it?
Long Live Leafs Nation!!
TC did already! |
| leafsfan_101 |
Posted - 04/01/2007 : 17:03:52
So who will make the poll?? Me, TC, CM, who wants to do it?
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| Kashmire |
Posted - 04/01/2007 : 16:44:36
Remember to give a link to your site when making the poll, tctitans. |
| leafsfan_101 |
Posted - 04/01/2007 : 16:04:47
Yep, when it says who do you want to vote, click everyone and change it to members only.
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| Canucks Man |
Posted - 04/01/2007 : 16:03:33
can you make it so guests cant vote?
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| leafsfan_101 |
Posted - 04/01/2007 : 16:00:06
I think that we should do a poll with anonymous users not allowed to vote. A verbal vote wouldn't really be efficiant or accurate to determining who created a best team, but if we allow members only then we will get a more accurate vote.
Thoughts??
Suggestions??
Comments??
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| Kashmire |
Posted - 04/01/2007 : 15:43:14
Yes. Maybe we should restrict the votes to only certain users on the site. Maybe a verbal vote rather a poll. The voting could be for everyone but then people might start voting for the team with most of their favourite players. Just a thought. But ya, lets get this finished!!!! |
| leafsfan_101 |
Posted - 04/01/2007 : 14:55:18
So should we put this in a poll now. I think that it is time.
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| Saku Steen |
Posted - 03/31/2007 : 04:19:09
quote:
Originally posted by 1 Crosby fan
Hey Saku i am pretty sure 1 of the 5 player s you picked will be great
Winners never Quit and Quitters never win
geez, thanks. Crosby by any chance? |
| Canucks Man |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 23:07:29
wow did you see Zubovs shootout goal, my point exactly
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| Canucks Man |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 21:52:34
Zubov got the winning goal in tonights shootout
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| Canucks Man |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 19:40:19
quote:
Originally posted by tctitans
quote:
Originally posted by Canucks Man
Id like to make a change in my shootout order, ill be taking out Mike Gartner and putting in Sergei Zubov
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ACK! Don't do CM I tell you! Don't do it!
Swaping out the 6 leading NHL goal scorer of ALL-TIME for Zubby? Zubov is a great Dman, but still....
Ok.. i've updated my spreadsheet.
Im doing it, Mike Gartner was a shooter and didnt pull very many moves(from all the video I looked up on him
whereas Zubov is one of the best in the league, he has so much patience and is one of the best in the league.
CANUCKS RULE!!!
Get The Towels Out Guys PLAYOFFS!!! |
| leafsfan_101 |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 19:34:32
Great job TC. Wow, this came together fast. Its all up to the people now when we put it a poll.
Long Live Leafs Nation!! |
| 1 Crosby fan |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 17:13:20
Hey Saku i am pretty sure 1 of the 5 player s you picked will be great
Winners never Quit and Quitters never win
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| tctitans |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 17:03:39
quote:
Originally posted by Canucks Man
Id like to make a change in my shootout order, ill be taking out Mike Gartner and putting in Sergei Zubov
CANUCKS RULE!!!
Get The Towels Out Guys PLAYOFFS!!!
ACK! Don't do CM I tell you! Don't do it!
Swaping out the 6 leading NHL goal scorer of ALL-TIME for Zubby? Zubov is a great Dman, but still....
Ok.. i've updated my spreadsheet.
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| tctitans |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 17:00:33
quote:
Originally posted by Saku Steen
quote:
Originally posted by tctitans
Ok, just for fun, a quick analysis. Obviously, this is my opinion, and my opinion alone. ;)
(it's just a first look initial quick analysis)
:)
Players drafted in the S.G.O.A.T league that I believe shouldnt be considered GOAT-type players:
- Paul Henderson
- Sidney Crosby
- Saku Koivu
- Sheldon Souray
- Dion Phaneuf
- Trevor Linden
- Mattias Ohlund
- Adam Foote
- Kimmo Timonen
- Tomas Vokoun
- Ed Jovanovski
Other analysis:
- I think Orr MUST be on the 1st PP unit and Bourque on the 1st PK unit. ;)
- Phaneuf shouldnt be on the PK unit. He's still learning the Defensive side of his game
- I'd get Lidstrom out there on the 1st PK unit instead of Housley
- I certainly wouldnt have put Foote on the PP. I'd swap him to PK and flip him and Timonen
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Well, it looks like my team sucks, 5 out of 11 players you picked are mine.  ouch
Sorry Saku, I didnt mean to target anyone. :)
I certainly dont think you picked any bad players, just the definition of a GOAT player for me differs a bit from your definition! ;) I'm not saying my definition is right, it's just 'my' definition! ;)
Players like Crosby and Phaneuf may very well end up being GOAT players, but it's too early in their careers (for me). Same might be said about Souray as well if he keeps this up. So dont fret, you selections are still great players. :) |
| tctitans |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 16:53:02
quote:
Originally posted by Saku Steen
quote:
Originally posted by tctitans
http://www.geocities.com/tctitans/
Ok.. all updated. Please take a look and let me know any discrepancies.
Thats great, but its Henri Richard, not Marice (I wish though!)
Thanks for that catch Saku! |
| Canucks Man |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 16:49:13
Id like to make a change in my shootout order, ill be taking out Mike Gartner and putting in Sergei Zubov
CANUCKS RULE!!!
Get The Towels Out Guys PLAYOFFS!!! |
| Canucks Man |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 16:45:40
quote:
Originally posted by Saku Steen
quote:
Originally posted by tctitans
http://www.geocities.com/tctitans/
Ok.. all updated. Please take a look and let me know any discrepancies.
Thats great, but its Henri Richard, not Marice (I wish though!)
Haha, I got him!
CANUCKS RULE!!!
Get The Towels Out Guys PLAYOFFS!!! |
| Saku Steen |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 16:39:35
quote:
Originally posted by tctitans
Ok, just for fun, a quick analysis. Obviously, this is my opinion, and my opinion alone. ;)
(it's just a first look initial quick analysis)
:)
Players drafted in the S.G.O.A.T league that I believe shouldnt be considered GOAT-type players:
- Paul Henderson
- Sidney Crosby
- Saku Koivu
- Sheldon Souray
- Dion Phaneuf
- Trevor Linden
- Mattias Ohlund
- Adam Foote
- Kimmo Timonen
- Tomas Vokoun
- Ed Jovanovski
Other analysis:
- I think Orr MUST be on the 1st PP unit and Bourque on the 1st PK unit. ;)
- Phaneuf shouldnt be on the PK unit. He's still learning the Defensive side of his game
- I'd get Lidstrom out there on the 1st PK unit instead of Housley
- I certainly wouldnt have put Foote on the PP. I'd swap him to PK and flip him and Timonen
-
Well, it looks like my team sucks, 5 out of 11 players you picked are mine. ouch
I also think my lines are fine, so leave them. Thanks. |
| Saku Steen |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 16:38:03
quote:
Originally posted by tctitans
http://www.geocities.com/tctitans/
Ok.. all updated. Please take a look and let me know any discrepancies.
Thats great, but its Henri Richard, not Marice (I wish though!) |
| Kashmire |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 16:26:41
Simple missunderstanding on both sides I see. |
| tctitans |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 15:49:01
quote:
Originally posted by Kashmire
I thought this draft was not going to be soley based on points.
I again completely agree. The draft isnt, and shouldnt be, based on points. There are numerous selections, and deserved GOAT players, that prove this IMO.
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| tctitans |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 15:44:14
quote:
Originally posted by Kashmire
You really don't think Foote is GOAT caliber? He was once a dominating defenseman in the late 90's. He may not have big points but his checking is strong and he is pretty hockey smart. Timonen is, without doubt, GOAT caliber. His defense is great. His offense is great. He can pass well, too. Vokoun is stellar. He has been injured a bit in his career and has been on a once week team. I thought this draft was not going to be soley based on points.
I dont argue that any of these 3 are not great players, I completely agree, they are great players! I (personally) just dont see these 3 anywhere near GOAT calibre when there are so many others that are.
My opinion. :)
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| tctitans |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 15:42:04
I'm quite disappointed right now!! I just thought of another Dman that I really would have wanted to pick in the GOAT draft! I think that Paul Reinhart really should have been picked!! This guy only played 11 seasons and 648 games before injuries forced him to retire, but he was one of the best during his era. He accumulated 560 points in his 648 games. This would have given him 100 more points than Coffey, and 285 more points than Bourque if he played the same number of games. Ok, yes yes.. I agree it's not quite right to compare this way since great players maintain their 'greatness' over their entire long careers, but 648 games isnt a bad sample size to get somewhat of an idea.
Too bad he didnt play longer.. I certainly think he would be up near the top of the Dmen class.
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| Kashmire |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 15:30:14
You really don't think Foote is GOAT caliber? He was once a dominating defenseman in the late 90's. He may not have big points but his checking is strong and he is pretty hockey smart. Timonen is, without doubt, GOAT caliber. His defense is great. His offense is great. He can pass well, too. Vokoun is stellar. He has been injured a bit in his career and has been on a once week team. I thought this draft was not going to be soley based on points. |
| tctitans |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 15:22:45
quote:
Originally posted by Canucks Man
I picked Trevor Linden because he is my all time favourite player and wanted him on my team, and Ohlund is my Favourite all time Dman and was my last pick so i thought id pick him as my last pick, but I do agree that they arnt really GOAT type players, and I agree on all those other players.
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Get The Towels Out Guys PLAYOFFS!!!
I don't blame anyone for picking anyone. :)
I love Linden too. The guys got more heart that 90% of his peers, and he's a fantastic individual to boot. As an all-around-hockey-player-and-person, he's one of my favorites of all time as well.
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| Canucks Man |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 15:04:56
I picked Trevor Linden because he is my all time favourite player and wanted him on my team, and Ohlund is my Favourite all time Dman and was my last pick so i thought id pick him as my last pick, but I do agree that they arnt really GOAT type players, and I agree on all those other players.
CANUCKS RULE!!!
Get The Towels Out Guys PLAYOFFS!!! |
| tctitans |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 14:03:28
Ok, just for fun, a quick analysis. Obviously, this is my opinion, and my opinion alone. ;)
(it's just a first look initial quick analysis)
:)
Players drafted in the S.G.O.A.T league that I believe shouldnt be considered GOAT-type players:
- Paul Henderson
- Sidney Crosby
- Saku Koivu
- Sheldon Souray
- Dion Phaneuf
- Trevor Linden
- Mattias Ohlund
- Adam Foote
- Kimmo Timonen
- Tomas Vokoun
- Ed Jovanovski
Other analysis:
- I think Orr MUST be on the 1st PP unit and Bourque on the 1st PK unit. ;)
- Phaneuf shouldnt be on the PK unit. He's still learning the Defensive side of his game
- I'd get Lidstrom out there on the 1st PK unit instead of Housley
- I certainly wouldnt have put Foote on the PP. I'd swap him to PK and flip him and Timonen
- |
| Kashmire |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 14:03:24
Great job Tc! I think we should use your first recommendation quote:
"Submit your vote for best "Greatest of all-time" team (League #2). Which team has the best combination of offense, defense, and grit. Who should win the S.G.O.A.T cup!?"
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| tctitans |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 13:26:17
http://www.geocities.com/tctitans/
Ok.. all updated. Please take a look and let me know any discrepancies. |
| tctitans |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 12:35:51
quote:
Originally posted by Mikhailova
quote:
Originally posted by tctitans
what sort of preamble do you think we should give?
We the people of the Separate GOAT Draft, in order to form a more perfect Team, establish Trading, insure domestic Chemistry, provide for the common defense (against cheapshotters), and promote the general Love of Hockey, do ordain and establish this team [fill in name] as the greatest of the SGOAT.
Hahaha
LOL!!! That's fantastic Mik!!
Unfortunately, I think that it would fly over the head of a lot of our readers and perhaps activate a few itchy-mouse-fingers to other threads. ;)
I love it thou! ;) |
| Mikhailova |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 12:21:39
quote:
Originally posted by tctitans
what sort of preamble do you think we should give?
We the people of the Separate GOAT Draft, in order to form a more perfect Team, establish Trading, insure domestic Chemistry, provide for the common defense (against cheapshotters), and promote the general Love of Hockey, do ordain and establish this team [fill in name] as the greatest of the SGOAT.
Hahaha
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| Canucks Man |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 12:18:47
Thats sounds pretty good TC
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| tctitans |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 12:16:11
quote:
Originally posted by Canucks Man
no problem Kashmire, so what ae we going to do now
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Get The Towels Out Guys PLAYOFFS!!!
I'll get the spreadsheet updated sometime today... then I guess I can create a poll to have people vote on the teams. :)
what sort of preamble do you think we should give?
"Submit your vote for best "Greatest of all-time" team (League #2). Which team has the best combination of offense, defense, and grit. Who should win the S.G.O.A.T cup!?"
comments welcome. |
| Canucks Man |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 12:00:10
no problem Kashmire, so what ae we going to do now
CANUCKS RULE!!!
Get The Towels Out Guys PLAYOFFS!!! |
| Kashmire |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 10:53:22
Lol thanks for that one CM |
| Canucks Man |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 10:11:50
Patchy posted his lines before you Kashmire
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| Kashmire |
Posted - 03/29/2007 : 15:07:44
Were done when Patchy posts his lines. |
| Kashmire |
Posted - 03/28/2007 : 17:25:48
Lines:
LW-C-RW
Lindros-Messier-Esposito
Nieuwendyk-Francis-Sundin
Kariya-Recchi-Selanne
Tkachuk-Turgeon-Gainey
Defence
Nierdermayer-Stevens
Salming-Leetch
Timonen-Foote
Powerplay 1
Sundin-Messier-Selanne
Niedermayer-Leetch
Powerplay 2
Kariya-Francis-Esposito
Salming-Foote
Penalty Kill 1
Francis-Gainey
Salming-Niedermayer
Penalty Kill 2
Turgeon-Recchi
Stevens-Timonen
Shootout
1. Selanne
2. Messier
3. Sundin
4. Esposito
5. Kariya
6. Nieuwendyk
Goalies
1. Plante
2. Vokoun |
