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Guest9494
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 Posted - 02/17/2010 : 11:22:23
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Usa- looked great controlled play of the puck it seems like everyone on the team isn't afraid of using the body and chemistry was everywhere
Canada- Too fancy, losing battles in the corners getting outworked in some areas if they play like that against a real team there going to get destroyed
Russia- Needs to find chemistry way too much skill everyone isn't on the same page and it showed throughout the game. KHL line showed how simple you can play and get a goal.
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HawkinOilCountry
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 12:21:49
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Canada- Took a while but the chemistry is building and this team is firing on all cylinders. Luongo was sloppy, hope Brodeur is better.
Russia- Weak in the back end and the KHL players were pretty sloppy. NHLers need more time to gel together. But 8 goals is 8 goals... theres no questioning the fire power here.
USA- Weak in the back end. Top line needs to wake up. 4th line is good. Goalie hasn't been tested. Still don't see them getting a Medal. I've been wrong before though
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Axey
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 12:24:59
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USA - Didn't watch the game
Canada - Started out slow, played about a period of decent hockey. Alot to work on still, but the lines are perfectly put together now. I found the pace of this game was grossly slow compared to the Russia game. We did however play alot to the point, with shots coming from 25+ feet out alot, we battled in the corners, got traffic in front. One thing about Canada is in the first 2 periods we made one to many passes alot, and weren't shooting enough.
Russia - Wow. The pace of this game was so fast, with the Russians its more of a quick short pass game, with alot of individual play. One probably may have been they had some terrible shot selections when they should have passed, opposite to the Canadians. |
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Sensfan101
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 13:12:16
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Well the Bergeron expiriment lasted about 1 period I bet Steve Yzerman is regretting that decsion now. Thankfully Bergeron and Seabrook look like they will be on the bench where the deserve to be. Canadas line combos:
Nash Crosby Iginla
Staal Getzlaf Perry
Heatley Thornton Marleau
Morrow Richards Toews
Bergeron
I'm not really sure about the defensive combos other than that Seabrook was seventh defenceman and Doughty and Pronger played together
Power Play
Nash Crosby Iginla/Richards
Weber Boyle
Heatley Thornton Marleau
Pronger Doughty
You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky |
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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
Canada
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 14:30:20
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From what I watched, Sidney Crosby seems to be the hardest working player to come along in a really long time, physically, but also mentally. He plays at such a fast pace but seems to posses the presence of mind to make the smartest hockey play in every situation.
To illustrate using the example of the power play:
Often a player will make a pass simply because there's a man open, even if he's got a decent shooting lane open. Or often, a player will shoot simply because the passing has gone on too long and it's time to shoot, even if there isn't a good shot available. Or often, a player will coral around the net and make a play when getting out front just to cycle and distribute the puck, even if the best play is to hang on.
Now, obviously, all our guys are giving 100 percent for their country, no one's even coming close to questioning that. However, I think lots of guys who are elite in the NHL are maybe adjusting to a stacked team by making the "traditional" hockey plays or by being eager to pass the puck to the 15 other capable players. A strong exception to this rule was Sidney Crosby, who, by my evaluation, seems never to care what others think, but rather, to always make the smartest hockey play. If that means holding on, he will, and if that means letting go, he will. Not a huge issue, but it's just interesting to see his hockey mind and confidence in himself at work.
Just think how many players started holding on to the puck a little more or trying out new things once we had a padded lead. Though no one got overconfident or played careless, obviously, if it's not something you'd do in a game against Russia, you probably shouldn't be doing it against Norway. From what I watched, Sidney Crosby was one of the few players that played in the latter half of the Norway game in a manner consistent to how he would play in a tighter game. This guy just seems to always be making the smart hockey move. |
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Beans15
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Canada
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 14:51:28
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I am shocked at how many people are talking about the "Bergeron" experiment and how it went wrong. What's wrong with killed 4 penalties, throwing in an assist, and being possibly the teams best forechecker??
I agree that Seabrook was pretty invisible on the ice but I have said from the start that I would have taken Bouwmeester ahead of Seabrook.
No one is saying how solid Doughty was and that he(along with Boyle) was the best puck mover from the back end last night.
It's also funny how no one is saying anything about missing Mike Green either.
Honestly, considering one practice before that game, I think Canada looked pretty good. Neither the US or the Russian's looked any better or worse than Canada did.
However, I do agree it was also one game against a weaker opponent and there is a long more games to the Gold. Regardless, good start.
That being said, I feel back for the Swiss. After beat Canada in Turino, I expect Babcock to get the guys fired up and lay a serious beating on that team. Not only for redemption, but also to show the US what they will expect on Sunday.
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Guest4022
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 17:28:48
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You really can't comment on the hockey at this point in the tournament, for a couple of reasons:
1) The opening games are usually mismatches.
2) Teams still have a bit of the yips (especially the host team), and need to gel.
All there is to say at this point is that there were no surprises.
I agree with Beans in saying that the Swiss better watch out tomorrow night. Canada hasn't forgotten what happened 4 years ago, and they're prepared to exact a bit of revenge.
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willus3
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Canada
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 18:01:17
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These are all just the first games for all teams so it's more of a feeling out process at this point. Coaches and players. Some observations though.
Russia - I sincerely hope this is the style they choose to play against Canada. They certainly didn't look impressive against Latvia. In the second period when Latvia got it's legs and confidence Russia looked decidedly average. Poor defensive play overall. Kovalchuk showing his usual non effort in anything resembling a defensive play.
The coach was running with 5 man units pretty much the entire game even on the powerplay. Expect that to change as the games go on. Won't be good to take penalties against this team.
Canada - Great to see Babcock juggling lines and pairings. Iginla didn't belong on the checking line. He has the potential to be the highest scorer on the team. Especially playing with Crosby and Nash. Nothing wrong with Bergeron. Good hockey player in the right role. Great to see Morrow on the team as well.
It will be interesting to see what Babcock does with Seabrook. He didn't use him much at all in that first game. I would have thought he would have used him more just to see the interaction with other players. All of the other defencemen did. Weber was killing penalties for cryin out loud. Doughty made some nice plays but in his first shift he made a very risky play trying to do thing by himself and out skate one of the Norwegian forwards behind his net. Stupid decision and I hope he doesn't try to pull that type of thing against the better teams. Regardless, it shows his inexperience as experienced players don't underestimate their opponents like he did there. I'm not a Pronger fan by any stretch but he was the best defenceman for Canada that game. Made a lot of great little poke checks and broke up passes.
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irvine
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Canada
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 18:40:54
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Canada -- Played well. Showed some offensive upside to go with their defensive game. Hard to judge just yet.
Russia -- Missed the game.
Sweden -- Played rather poorly. They had some upside, but Germany certainly played on par with them. Nothing spectacular in game one. They'll need to develop together quickly.
USA -- Played a very physical game, while showing some offensive upside. They looked pretty solid in game one. But like the other teams, besides Sweden, hard to judge yet.
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Hugh G. Rection
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 18:53:05
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Initial thoughts mean absolutely nothing in a tournament like this. Unless of course there are glaring holes in a team which get exposed. Remember that Canada lost its first game in 2002- we all remember how that turned out.
Will Canada's depth prevail against one of the top 4 teams? We will have to wait and see. Let's just hope the offense doesn't dissapear like it did in Italy. To be honest I'm most worried about the goaltending- neither Brodeur or Luongo look particularly sharp at the moment and I don't see them going to Fleury no matter what happens. Miller and Lundqvist, on the other hand, are machines. |
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Alex116
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 20:50:14
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Well, personally, i'm not worried about our goaltending at this point. Luongo played well enough in a game that really doesn't suit his style. He prefers to have significant action and it's difficult for some goalies to stay focused when they're not getting shots. I thought he made a few good saves, particularly on the one timer in the slot (think it was on the pp?). Brodeur's turn now, and i'm not sweating. I think he'll shut the door!
I was surprised too that Seabrook didn't see more ice, especially in the 2nd half of the game when it was essentially out of reach? Didn't he make this team to play with Keith? I would have preferred to see him get some more experience in a game that was out of reach.
Willus, i didn't watch much of the Russia game but all i read and heard about Kovalchuk was praise? Everything i heard/read said he's a much different player when he puts on the Russian jersey? A ton of praise? Just sayin'......?
What'd you all think of Getzlaf? I didn't really notice it but heard someone (Bob Mckenzie maybe?) saying you could see he's no where near 100%? Said he wasn't explosive like he would normally be and gave up on chasing the puck a few times knowing he wouldn't get to it? Basically said, he looked good with the puck, but a little slow without it?
I hope your gut feelings are right guys about tomorrow night, cuz i'll be there! Row 5 lower bowl! Heading downtown at lunch for some pregame beers then off to cheer on Canada!
BTW, i don't suppose anyone heard that ridiculous Pepsi chant at the game last night? If i hear it tomorrow, i'll have to drown it out with a real cheer!  |
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Beans15
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Canada
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 22:33:03
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Originally posted by willus3
These are all just the first games for all teams so it's more of a feeling out process at this point. Coaches and players. Some observations though.
Russia - I sincerely hope this is the style they choose to play against Canada. They certainly didn't look impressive against Latvia. In the second period when Latvia got it's legs and confidence Russia looked decidedly average. Poor defensive play overall. Kovalchuk showing his usual non effort in anything resembling a defensive play.
The coach was running with 5 man units pretty much the entire game even on the powerplay. Expect that to change as the games go on. Won't be good to take penalties against this team.
Canada - Great to see Babcock juggling lines and pairings. Iginla didn't belong on the checking line. He has the potential to be the highest scorer on the team. Especially playing with Crosby and Nash. Nothing wrong with Bergeron. Good hockey player in the right role. Great to see Morrow on the team as well.
It will be interesting to see what Babcock does with Seabrook. He didn't use him much at all in that first game. I would have thought he would have used him more just to see the interaction with other players. All of the other defencemen did. Weber was killing penalties for cryin out loud. Doughty made some nice plays but in his first shift he made a very risky play trying to do thing by himself and out skate one of the Norwegian forwards behind his net. Stupid decision and I hope he doesn't try to pull that type of thing against the better teams. Regardless, it shows his inexperience as experienced players don't underestimate their opponents like he did there. I'm not a Pronger fan by any stretch but he was the best defenceman for Canada that game. Made a lot of great little poke checks and broke up passes.
Wow, I agree with 95% of Willus??? What's wrong with this picture.
I recall the Doughty play you are talking about with the mistake of skating the puck out. I held my breath thinking, "Oh, no!" But he did recover quite well.
I agree that Pronger also played well, however his mobility was really highlighted, specifically against the speed Thorenson. But you can't argue that his has the best stick in the game today.
Really looking forward to the Swiss game tomorrow. Redemption time!
Russia's defensive lapses should be no surprise to anyone. That was everyone's first thought when looking at that team. They are absolutely and outscore the opponent team but I don't know if they can score in bunches against the best of the best. |
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Guest9836
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Posted - 02/18/2010 : 06:34:28
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| Interesting stat... out of 8 goals not one Canadian player had a goal and an assist.. We had only goal scorers and assisters, funny. |
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Beans15
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Canada
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Posted - 02/18/2010 : 07:44:56
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Originally posted by Guest9836
Interesting stat... out of 8 goals not one Canadian player had a goal and an assist.. We had only goal scorers and assisters, funny.
Another surprising stat was that Iginla had 3 goals on 5 shots in less than 10 minutes of ice time. Only Morrow and Seabrook had fewer minutes than Iginla.
Talke about making the most of an opportunity. |
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willus3
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Canada
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Posted - 02/18/2010 : 07:51:32
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Originally posted by Alex116
Willus, i didn't watch much of the Russia game but all i read and heard about Kovalchuk was praise? Everything i heard/read said he's a much different player when he puts on the Russian jersey? A ton of praise? Just sayin'......?
What'd you all think of Getzlaf? I didn't really notice it but heard someone (Bob Mckenzie maybe?) saying you could see he's no where near 100%? Said he wasn't explosive like he would normally be and gave up on chasing the puck a few times knowing he wouldn't get to it? Basically said, he looked good with the puck, but a little slow without it?
Kovalchuk may play differently with that Russian jersey on but he certainly didn't in that game. Compare him to his linemate Malkin who really worked hard everywhere and Kovalchuk looked lazy.
Not sure if Getzlaf is 100% but he did make the effort to backcheck on one play and had to skate hard to do so. Not sure if McKenzie is correct or not as it is hard to tell with Getzlaf. He has a tendency to be a bit lazy as well.
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Guest9291
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Posted - 02/18/2010 : 09:43:07
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| Not really a big suprise that the Russian team has a lot of firepower and skill, but no heart, hardwork and defense. We'll see if that changes against the better teams in their pool... |
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Beans15
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Canada
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Posted - 02/18/2010 : 09:53:21
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Originally posted by Guest9291
Not really a big suprise that the Russian team has a lot of firepower and skill, but no heart, hardwork and defense. We'll see if that changes against the better teams in their pool...
Historically, I would agree. However, this Russia should be different and I expected them to be. Not only because of players like Volchenkov and Fedorov who are two of the best defensive players, but I would think the Russians would like to build off the WC last year and be playing in Sochi as the defending Olympic Champs.
They have the chance to put a strangle hold on Sr. International hockey if they feel like working for it.
We will see if they do. |
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Russia
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Posted - 02/18/2010 : 11:50:51
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| we have a great team. does not become a bad team two years in a row world champions. |
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Leafs81
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 02/18/2010 : 14:33:17
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Originally posted by Beans15
I am shocked at how many people are talking about the "Bergeron" experiment and how it went wrong. What's wrong with killed 4 penalties, throwing in an assist, and being possibly the teams best forechecker??
I agree that Seabrook was pretty invisible on the ice but I have said from the start that I would have taken Bouwmeester ahead of Seabrook.
No one is saying how solid Doughty was and that he(along with Boyle) was the best puck mover from the back end last night.
It's also funny how no one is saying anything about missing Mike Green either.
Honestly, considering one practice before that game, I think Canada looked pretty good. Neither the US or the Russian's looked any better or worse than Canada did.
However, I do agree it was also one game against a weaker opponent and there is a long more games to the Gold. Regardless, good start.
That being said, I feel back for the Swiss. After beat Canada in Turino, I expect Babcock to get the guys fired up and lay a serious beating on that team. Not only for redemption, but also to show the US what they will expect on Sunday.
Of course no one is talking about Mike Green. It was never a question that we would need him against Norway. I think the Mike Green debate was what if we're losing by one goal late in the third against a team like Sweden, Russia or USA and we have a powerplay. Where's our Mike Green?????
About the topic. I hope Babcock will get the message and put Iginla and Nash with Crosby on the first line and put Bergeron on the fourth line or as the thirteenth forward.
I thought Canada had too many stupid penalties and they were looking for the perfect play too often and did way too many long passes that ended up in an icing. Do that against Russia and Sweden and you can say goodbye to your Olympic dream.
But, if they can get that fix (and I think they will) well they look pretty strong and they will win the gold medal.
Also I was really impressed with Toews. |
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irvine
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Canada
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Posted - 02/18/2010 : 18:05:03
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Touching on the passing that Leafs81 mentioned,
They appear to be over-passing, far too much right now. Playing way too cute. I'm watching this game VS Switzerland, and it's tied 2-2 after 2.
The Swiss are playing their standard style, the exact same they did four years ago, when the beat Canada.
The Canadian team need to just get pucks to the net, enough over passing in the slot. The Swiss will have 4 guys down low, always! They will plug up that slot. Hard shots from the outside or the blueline, dig in the rebounds on the ones that make it in. Hiller is a solid goaltender, but he's not going to stop all 30 shots + rebounds.
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Guest9494
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Posted - 02/18/2010 : 19:00:28
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| So Babcock why don't you play the best line more often?Marleau Thoroton Heatley pretty sad performance by Canada even though they won they will get destoryed by the states Sunday |
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ryan93
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 02/18/2010 : 19:10:38
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Martin Brodeur had a strong game tonight, i don't think there's any debate who'll be between the pipes on Sunday. He made some key saves throughout the game, and didn't have a chance on either of the Swiss goals. Marleau put one in his own net, and the other was a perfectly placed slapshot off the inside of the post...and then came up huge in the shootout.
Also something we touched on a few days ago...Fleury did indeed dress as the back-up tonight. |
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sharksfan44
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 02/18/2010 : 20:46:18
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brodeur definitley played well tonite and i agree he should be in net on sunday against the states. I'm not happy with how the team played though. we seem to be trying to make one to many passes. we need to get more shots, that's the big thing we need to improve on in the coming games.
We had some bad luck in this game, marleau was in the wrong spot at the wrong time wen the puck went of his skate (not his fault) and of course hiller was very strong, making two highlight saves.
hopefully we can come out strong against the US.
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irvine
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Canada
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Posted - 02/18/2010 : 21:50:42
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The Swiss cost us a point, that could prove to be big when all is said and done.
IF Canada beat the US, we'll still finish 1st in our group. But, we'll likely see a tougher match-up come medal round time, based on points. Where other teams will have 1 point more than us when determining the matchups.
Swiss always give us trouble, and i'm hoping it's just a small bump in the road. We need to play 10x better vs the US, or we don't win.
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irvine
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Canada
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Posted - 02/18/2010 : 23:46:20
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WOW...
A couple of excellent games today.
Canada loses a point to the Swiss, by entering overtime. Although, they did manage to pull off the tough win.
Russia loses to Slovakia!
Where was Russia's almighty offense? They have plenty of high-powered scorers, but it seems very little chemistry. Their best clicking line is the KHL line they have assembled. All other lines are looking shaky.
So Canada takes 2 PTs, Russia takes 1PT.
All-in-all some good hockey!
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Guest9494
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Posted - 02/18/2010 : 23:57:18
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| Does anyone know where I can find a boxcores for the games that shows icetimes plus/minus? I know its a little off topic but would love some indept information on games instead of hearing Crosby wins game even though he didn't register any points in regulation and took him two trys to get a goal in shootout. |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 02/19/2010 : 00:14:30
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Wow! Not the game i expected. Really thought we'd win that somewhat easily!
Have to agree, the net belongs to Marty!!! He was great when he needed to be in a game where he was actually tested! Well done Marty!
Sunday's gonna be wild! |
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Guest3667
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Posted - 02/19/2010 : 06:17:40
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My impression is that Canada as a country held the Hari Kari Knife very close to the vest last night (you know, just in case).
Russia Failed miserably.
The annointed ones collectively s*** the bed.
I guess that's why we actually play the games, eh? |
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Guest8332
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Posted - 02/19/2010 : 06:39:15
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Cdn vs Sui
Is it me or does Getzlaf seem less than 100%? He was easily bumped off the puck several times during the game. For a guy that big, that shouldn't happen. That shootout move was the pits. I am most disappointed with his play for forwards so far.
Hope Iggy is feeling better. He didn't come back for many shifts after that check to the head. Canada is going to need him big time.
Richards, Morrow and Toews/Iggy/Bergeron line was awesome on the night. They might just match up well with the US banger line of Brown, Backes and ? They are doing exactly what is expected of them. Making it hard for the other team to play against.
Ketih, Weber and Pronger were outstanding. Seabrook is out of his league here. Doughty is good but takes too many chances. The rest of the defence was average. Oh Dan Boyle, make sure your shots are on net rather than 4 feet wide all the time.
Best player consistently is Crosby. Say what you want about him, you Crosby haters, but he never takes a shift off. The Sharks line's instant chemistry saved this game for Canada. |
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Hugh G. Rection
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Posted - 02/19/2010 : 08:46:59
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It seems that chemistry takes more than a couple practices (duh) to manufacture. If the Canadians don't have the Sharks players they lose that game to the swiss. As someone else pointed out, Russia's top line was the 'KHL' line, because they seem to be more familiar with eachother.
Unfortunately, the US looks like they have better team chemistry than Canada, whereas Canada has more skill. Should be an interesting tilt sunday, get your popcorn ready. |
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JOSHUACANADA
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Canada
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Posted - 02/19/2010 : 09:57:26
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quote:
Originally posted by Hugh G. Rection
It seems that chemistry takes more than a couple practices (duh) to manufacture. If the Canadians don't have the Sharks players they lose that game to the swiss. As someone else pointed out, Russia's top line was the 'KHL' line, because they seem to be more familiar with eachother.
Unfortunately, the US looks like they have better team chemistry than Canada, whereas Canada has more skill. Should be an interesting tilt sunday, get your popcorn ready.
God, I hope your wrong. I dont want to hear another Burke is god rant. However the States have played better than they had been billed. Funny how every news clip has picked up on key mistakes made by Getzlaf, Doughty, Bergeron and Seabrook. These where the most talked about, supposed to be wrong picks by Yserman and company, and Getzlaf only because he's no 100%. Personally, a wins a win, and a close won may wake up this team in time for the medal round. Still shocked by the Russia upset. Who picked Slovakia to upset the Big Red Machine. Oh yah, that was me! |
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Beans15
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Canada
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Posted - 02/19/2010 : 10:55:26
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Seriously wonder if I am watching the same game as everyone else. I thought that there was not a single Canadian defender who had a good game last night. Boyle was about the best.
Stupid mistake by Doughty cost the first goal, stupid mistake by Pronger cost the second goal.
The Shark line was easily the most dangerous with the Getzlaf line next. I didn't watch Getzlaf get knocked off the puck. In fact, I would have considered him the most physical forward outside of the that 4th line Morrow/Toews/Richards/Bergeron. I thought that the Crosby line was really insignificant all night but way more once Iginla started sitting after he got his bell rung.
Also, granted he did not face many shots but I thought Brodeur looked awefully uncomfortable in net. He did not look at good as Luongo did, that's for sure.
Here's the kicker that might get me chastized by my Canadian Bretheren.
"Hey Marty, everyone knows you can play the puck. But do you have to play it every time it comes near you???"
I though Broduer playing the puck as much as he did put the defense out of sorts and made it more difficult for the puck movers to actually move the puck.
However, let's not get too crazy. That Swiss team is really hard to play against and they deserve all the credit in the world. But if that team Canada shows up on Sunday, they will not win the pool.
On another note, I did not get a chance to see much if any of the Russian game. From what my boss said, Ovechkin was trying to be the One Man Army??? Is this true?? Did the selfishness of the Russian's skill players beat them last night??
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irvine
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Posted - 02/19/2010 : 15:36:44
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Beans:
I watched the entire game, and my thoughts and opinions may be very different than any other person who watched it, however...
I'd not say Ovechkin cost them the game, per say. He did become a little selfish in some cases, but no more so than usual. He took a dumb penalty, but I can't remember if Slovakia scored on that PP or not.
When this game went to the shootout, i'd say the coaching cost them the shootout win by putting Ovechkin in 3 times. He scored his first chance, missed his second, put back in to miss again. Meanwhile, a guy like Radulov has not shot yet.
Ovechkin overplayed the puck in the shootout. Too many moves, losing the puck in his last two attempts. Without a shot on net. He should have just snapped it home like he did the first time. It's what he's best at.
So no... I'm not going to go as far to say Ovechkin tryed to be "The one man army" or the "The only red machine", whatever was said. But I am going to admit the guy made some mistakes. Which may have contributed to the entire teams loss.
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Guest9494
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Posted - 02/21/2010 : 19:05:35
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| Remember the time when it was a disapointment to get bronze being Canadian ugh now were lucky to even make it to the semi finals... |
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Guest9494
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Posted - 02/21/2010 : 19:17:57
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| Interesting stat to tonights game Crosby was a -3 and so was Nash maybe we should be giving them less icetime |
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Posted - 02/21/2010 : 19:36:54
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Interesting stat to tonights game Crosby was a -3 and so was Nash maybe we should be giving them less icetime
No it was minus 2. Are you kidding me? Nash and Crosby at the near the end was dynamite. They can't help sloppy plays by Pronger, Boyle and Brodeur. If you are going to lay the blame of the loss on anyone it is the goalie and defense.
Miller was - indescribable. Canadian offense did everything it could and more to get the puck pass him. Keith and Weber were the best defensive pairing in the game. Oh Jay Bo where are you now? Can I trade Pronger for you.
Getzlaf looked better tonight. He was moving and wasn't knocked off his feet so easily. Nash is a beast. Alongside with Toews and Crosby, were probably the best offensive players.
What a terrible weekend for Canada. Not only did they only come out with only 2 of a possible 6 medals, losing to the American but Ms. Rochette has a montrous set back. My condolences to you and your family.
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ryan93
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Posted - 02/21/2010 : 19:41:04
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| Assuming we can get by the Germans, it's going to be a very tough road to the Gold, it'll take 3 very tough games, starting with the Russians. |
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Guest0854
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Posted - 02/21/2010 : 19:51:51
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Originally posted by ryan93
Assuming we can get by the Germans, it's going to be a very tough road to the Gold, it'll take 3 very tough games, starting with the Russians.
That's a big assumption. Hey we always asked for a Canada-Russia game in the Olympics? Why not have it in the quarters? It'll be the same intensity ... without the medal involved. |
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ryan93
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 02/21/2010 : 19:55:59
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It'll be a great game no doubt, but i was hoping they wouldn't have to face either the Swedes or Russians until at least the semis, that way worst case scenerio Canada is playing for a bronze medal. With the Canada/Russia clash coming in the quaters, a loss means Canada comes up empty handed yet again.
All that said though, first things first, they defintely can't take Germany lightly. |
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Hugh G. Rection
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Posted - 02/21/2010 : 19:56:22
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Playing like they did today... the Russians will steamroll Canada. If anything I'm glad we didn't get the bye, we need the extra game to figure out how to play better hockey. Seriously Pronger needs to not play anymore.... at all.
Doughty was our best player tonight and he's 20. Scary stuff, but its not over yet. Lets not look past the Germans either, considering the scare the Swiss gave us. |
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Beans15
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Canada
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Posted - 02/22/2010 : 08:05:07
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Originally posted by Hugh G. Rection
Playing like they did today... the Russians will steamroll Canada. If anything I'm glad we didn't get the bye, we need the extra game to figure out how to play better hockey. Seriously Pronger needs to not play anymore.... at all.
Doughty was our best player tonight and he's 20. Scary stuff, but its not over yet. Lets not look past the Germans either, considering the scare the Swiss gave us.
What did Pronger do wrong??? Outside of the mistake against the Swiss, he has been a rock!
I also have to disagree that if that Canada team plays Russia we lose. If Canada puts that kind of pressure against the Russians, they will fold like that cheap card table sitting in your basement. Another huge reason why the American's won last night was that they played one of the most disciplined games I have ever watched. They played clean then entire time and Canada had the puck in their end for 1/2 the 1st period, nearly the entire 2nd period, and the last 1/2 of the 3rd period.
The Russian defense could not handle that and they would take penalties a plenty.
I don't know why people are so negative?? It was a poor result but the team played better than the last 2 games and if there was any player in net last night other than Ryan Miller, Canada wins.
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