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Beans15
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 Posted - 04/13/2010 : 20:30:54
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Washington in 5
Pitt in 6
Jersey in 6
Boston in 7
San Jose in 5
Chicago in 6
Los Angeles in 6
Detroit in 6
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Guest4271
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Posted - 04/14/2010 : 00:26:12
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This is totally a crap shoot............8 teams could win any givin' day
Washington in 6 |
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Guest4271
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Posted - 04/14/2010 : 00:28:59
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New Jersey in 6
Buffalo in 7
Pittsburgh in 6
San Jose in 6
Chicago in 6
Vancouver in 7
Detroit in 6
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Posted - 04/14/2010 : 05:02:49
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I have to say Beans, that is a very, very strange tie breaker. All it does is reward people to call every series for 4 or 5 games (to make sure they are under, not over which would eliminate them) and it doesn't reward the overall correctness of any series picked perfectly.
As an example, I could pick 6 series correctly, same as two others. I happen to call three of those correct picks in the exact number of games, and the other three I am off by one - one under, and two I am over.
That would automatically disqualify me because I am now "over" the total number of games . . . even though I was extremely close on all counts.
At the same time, the other two could have 6 correct predictions but have only one exaclty correct for number of games, and be under 4 out of the remaining 5 series, so that they would finish ahead of me.
That's just not fair at all, IMHO.
Correctness should be rewarded, no?
My suggestion . . .
IF two or more players have the same amount of series correct, here are the tie-breakers:
1) First tie-breaker is number of series called in the correct number of games (only for those where winner was correctly predicted).
2) Second tie-breaker is number of series off by one game (only for those with correct winner).
3) Third tie-breaker is number of correctly called upsets (lower seeded teams winning series)
Anyways, just my thoughts.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
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Iceman778
Top Prospect
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Posted - 04/14/2010 : 07:45:06
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| thanks for posting this complete info about the status of the teams in league |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 04/14/2010 : 08:16:05
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| Beans, i agree with Slozo. I found your example a little confusing and wasn't sure if you went "over", you were dq'd immediately or just in the tie breaker? |
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Beans15
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8286 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2010 : 11:02:42
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Over is just the tie breaker.
Ultimately, the key is picking winners. If you pick more winners than the next guy, you move forward.
It's also really easy to say what should be what when you did not spend 2 hours last night keying in all the information into a spreadsheet to keep track of what's going on. I actually thought about exact the correct number of games only if the series was called correctly and it is going to be a nightmare to figure out in the end.
Let's do this then, over/under it irrelevant. It's CLOSEST number of games.
Does that seem fair? It puts the focus firstly on picking the correct team, then on picking the correct number of games but doesn't punish the over or under.
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Axey
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
877 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2010 : 14:05:43
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East
Washington vs Montreal Washington in 6
New Jersey vs Philadelphia NJ in 7
Buffalo vs Boston Buffalo in 6
Pittsburgh vs Ottawa Pitts in 6
West
San Jose vs Colorado San Jose in 5
Chicago vs Nashville Chicago in 5
Vancouver vs Los Angeles LA in 6
Phoenix vs Detroit Detriot in 5 |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 04/14/2010 : 15:03:39
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Beans, i'm good with that. Think that's much better cuz if i picked every series in 7 and you picked every series to be a sweep and they all ended in 6 (with you and i picking winners correctly), i should win.
I'm down with the new changes!  |
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Posted - 04/14/2010 : 15:09:18
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That's a much fairer way to account for it, Beans - thanks.
I won't complain further, as we all do appreciate the effort put into keeping track of something like this.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
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Beans15
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Posted - 04/14/2010 : 15:34:32
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Hey Guys, I appreciate the feedback. Hopefully this will be agreeable to most and we can have a little fun through the playoffs, especially us who are being punished.
Like the Avatar Slozo?? Ya big Jerko!!! |
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Beans15
Moderator
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8286 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2010 : 16:41:20
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Time is up!! I will go back through and see if anyone did any edits to their picks and games(like I did) as long as it's time stamped before the cut off.
Good Luck!!
Here is the breakdown of the time each team was picked.
Looks like no one has any faith in Nashville as they were picked by only one person.
The closest matchup is Buff/Bos although Buffalo is still the favorite by nearly 70%.
Washington 88.6%
Montreal 11.4%
New Jersey 85.7%
Philadelphia 14.3%
Buffalo 68.6%
Boston 31.4%
Pittsburgh 91.4%
Ottawa 8.6%
San Jose 85.7%
Colorado 14.3%
Chicago 97.1%
Nashville 2.9%
Vancouver 77.1%
Los Angeles 22.9%
Detroit 80.0%
Phoenix 20.0%
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99pickles
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
671 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2010 : 20:56:48
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My guesses:
West
San Jose defeats Colorado in 6 games
Chicago over Nashville in 6
Vancouver over LA in 7
Detroit over Phoenix in 6
East
Washington over Montreal in 4
Philly over New Jersey in 7
Buffalo over Boston in 6
Pittsburgh over Ottawa in 7
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Posted - 04/14/2010 : 21:26:14
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Lovin' the avatar Beans!!!
It was funny, I thought about it for a while once when we were talking about the bet, and I thought to myself: which maple leaf would he choose? With such an old iconic symbol it's had quite a few remakes to choose from . . .
. . . but I knew in my heart of deep blue hearts that you'd go classic. It has character, reflects history, and is at least slightly distanced from the current Leafs version, so that an Oiler fan like yourself may be able to stomach looking at it.*
Ah, what a beautiful sight . . . the blue, the white, the leaf . . . sigh. May we see it next spring on the ice!
*this reverie brought to you by the undying spirit of old-skool Leafdom
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
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Iceman778
Top Prospect
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Posted - 04/15/2010 : 09:34:29
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Gusteroni
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 04/15/2010 : 12:14:09
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Ive never seen a 'Sticky Topic' before. What does that mean exactly? Although last night went way sideways from what I predicted I still stand by my series predictions.
When Hell freezes over, I'll play hockey there too. |
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Beans15
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Posted - 04/25/2010 : 06:20:20
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With the first 3 series decided, here is a quick update.
Slozo has the 3 decided series picked accurately and in the correct number of games. Flying V and bounty2k3 also have the first 3 series picked and are off by only 1 game.
There are 27 people who picked 2 out of 3 (most missing the Philly series) with various game differentials
Only Utemin has not picked a series correctly.
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99pickles
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
671 Posts |
Posted - 04/25/2010 : 09:13:58
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I also have all 3 finished series predicted accurately.. Unfortunately I didn't get home in time to post my guesses until some games had already started.  I picked against 3 of the 4 game winners from the first night's action anyways, so I clearly wasn't using my tardiness to any advantage
So whadya say?? Can I please play along for the first round, sir?? |
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Beans15
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Posted - 04/26/2010 : 21:22:52
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Pickles, you almost lost it by calling me Sir.
You are in. I will accept the picks even though some of the games were underway.
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Beans15
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8286 Posts |
Posted - 04/28/2010 : 19:09:43
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No one ran the table. The most correct picks was flying V with 7.
The list in Bold are those who are through to the 2nd round. Top 18 with ties.
You now have until tomorrow night on or before 7:30 pm Pacific/10:30 pm Eastern for your 2nd round Picks
Name Correct Picks Game Differential
FLYING-V 7 6
99Pickles 6 0
Thrasher17 6 1
sensfan101 6 3
bounty2k3 6 4
Hugh G. Reaction 6 4
Slozo 6 5
Alex116 6 5
MrBoogedy 6 5
tbar 6 6
Guest4146 5 1
umteman 5 1
Guest2264 5 1
HawkinOilCountry 5 1
Guest4271 5 1
polishexpress 5 2
Beans15 5 2
Irvine 5 2
pokermatt12 5 3
Ryan93 5 3
nuxfan 5 3
Leafs81 5 4
Gusteroni 5 5
Redneck76ca 5 6
Guest2787 5 6
Nucks07 5 6
drew 5 6
Guest3356 4 3
Axey 4 3
baumer 4 5
Utemin 4 5
jetflames 3 0
Guest9952 3 0
pensfan17 3 1
Guest9094 3 2
Aseb33 3 2
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Beans15
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8286 Posts |
Posted - 04/28/2010 : 19:11:09
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My Picks are:
Pittsburgh in 5 6
Boston in 7
Philly in 6
San Jose in 6
Chicago in 7
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Edited by - Beans15 on 04/29/2010 13:08:48 |
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MrBoogedy
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 04/28/2010 : 20:44:07
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Montreal in 6
Boston in 4
Vancouver in 7
Detroit in 5 |
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Guest4271
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Posted - 04/28/2010 : 21:44:08
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Some surprises, but I think they stop here:
Pittsburgh in 6 - more complete team then Washington
Boston in 6 - Savard has inpact on PP
Chicago in 7 - best series of R#2
Detroit in 6 - SJ is cursed by this rivalry |
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Nucks07
Top Prospect
Canada
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Posted - 04/28/2010 : 22:25:06
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S.J in 6 games
Vancouver in 6 games
Pittsburgh in 5 games
Boston in 7 games
[Sorry Nucks07, this is a playdown game. You can't jump in part way through.] |
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HawkinOilCountry
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
318 Posts |
Posted - 04/28/2010 : 23:09:55
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Philly in 6
Chicago in 7
San Jose in 6
Pittsburgh in 6
The arena wall in chicago should be credited with a goal. |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
6113 Posts |
Posted - 04/28/2010 : 23:24:21
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Boston in 7
Pittsburgh in 5
Detroit in 6
Vancouver in 6 |
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Posted - 04/29/2010 : 05:44:37
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Tough second round to pick, I have to say . . . and after Montreal pulled off one of the greatest first round upsets of all time, the one "easy" pick (Pittsburgh) isn't such a shoo-in.
Pittsburgh vs Montreal: With great shot blocking, awesome goaltending, and opportunistic scoring, the Habs showed they can beat anyone . . . anyone, that is, except perhaps this team. Pens in 5.
Boston vs Philadelphia: Who would have thought the Bruins would have home-ice advantage in the second round, coupled with the return of Savard? It all spells trouble for the Flyers, but I think they can still pull it off - in a 7 game thriller ending in Beantown.
San Jose vs Detroit: Well, if San Jose truly wants to get rid of the choker label, there couldn't be a more perfect scenario - beat the Wings, and they will have everyone's respect. I say their supporting cast is too much for the Wings to handle, and they do it in 6 games.
Chicago vs Vancouver: Real tough one to call, but I think it comes down to goaltending and defence, and I think I give the edge here to Vancouver. The Canucks in 6 games.
BTW Beans - in the second round, do we add up the wins to our total from the first round before eliminating half the field?
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
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Beans15
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Posted - 04/29/2010 : 05:49:56
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BTW Beans - in the second round, do we add up the wins to our total from the first round before eliminating half the field?
I wasn't planning on it. What I was thinking was a clean slate, with the first criteria being Series correctly picked, the 2nd being games, and if required, the series and games from the 1st round will be a final tiebreaker.
Agreed??? |
Edited by - Beans15 on 04/29/2010 05:50:13 |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 04/29/2010 : 07:38:51
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quote:
Originally posted by Beans15
BTW Beans - in the second round, do we add up the wins to our total from the first round before eliminating half the field?
I wasn't planning on it. What I was thinking was a clean slate, with the first criteria being Series correctly picked, the 2nd being games, and if required, the series and games from the 1st round will be a final tiebreaker.
Agreed???
I go in a bracket style pool for college hoops (Final Four) and as rounds go on, your points are accumulated. Where it differs is, as the rounds go on, the values go up. So, say for instance, you give 1 pt for correct series in round 1, maybe it goes up to each series being worth 2pts in round 2? That way, there's room for guys to catch up while still rewarding the guy at the top.
Oh wait, how to deal with the # of games part? That could make it tough? Maybe just a simple start over is best. Besides, it's your "pool" Beans, you decide. It's not like there's a chunk of cash to the winner? |
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ryan93
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 04/29/2010 : 08:43:26
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Damn, I didn't make it  The East through me for a loop in round 1. Good luck to those of you who are through to the 2nd round.
Not that it matters, but i would of taken the 2 PA teams in the East, while i'm really not sure about the West, i consider all 4 teams legitimate Cup contenders. |
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Posted - 04/29/2010 : 09:13:55
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Well Beans, it is your call, and as it was pointed out, there isn't any money riding on it . . . but I certainly think it should be somewhat cumulative in nature - otherwise guys like you that just barely squeaked in could easily win it!
I would go with Alex suggested, just make a series prediction that is correct in the second round worth two points instead of one, and add it to the total. The series length predictions for that round are the next tiebreaker, then the third tiebreaker would be the length predictions from previous rounds.
Third round, three points, finals, 4 points. This way, almost everyone who advances to the final should be in the running to win it.
Anyways, that's my two cents.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
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polishexpress
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 04/29/2010 : 11:12:29
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What a finish to the second round!
And here are my picks:
I'm going against the grain, throwing common sense out the door, and saying that MTL wins in 6 
The Canucks shall get revenge, if Lou doesn't lay an egg and the Sedins put their heads together: VAN in 7
The choke artists shall paint another picture and Rafalski will get his game on Olympic style, DET in 7
The Bruins get Savard back, and Philly are without Carter, Gagne and Laperriere, so I say BOS in 6 |
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99pickles
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
671 Posts |
Posted - 04/29/2010 : 12:12:52
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Thank you beans.
I had better put my picks in for Rd.2 now, as I cannot ensure that I will be home in time before game time again tonight!
Pittsburgh def Montreal in 6
Boston def Philly in 6
San Jose def Detroit in 6
Chicago def Van in 6
Cheers!
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umteman
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 04/29/2010 : 15:51:28
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Pittsburg over Montreal 6 games
Boston ove Philadelphia 6 games
Detroit over San Jose 7 games
Chicago over Vancouver 7 games
Did you hear about the retired proctologist? He spent 40 years saying "what's a place like this doing in a girl like you?" |
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Thrasher17
Top Prospect
Canada
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Posted - 04/29/2010 : 16:58:57
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Boston in 7
Pittsburgh in 6
Detroit in 6
Chicago in 7 |
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irvine
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 04/29/2010 : 17:52:36
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Chicago VS Vancouver - Chicago in 7
Detroit Vs San Jose - Detroit in 6
Boston VS Philly - Philadelphia in 7
Montreal VS Pittsburgh - Pittsburgh in 6
Irvine/prez. |
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Sensfan101
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 04/29/2010 : 19:20:18
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Pittsburgh in 5
Philedalphia in 7
San Jose in 7
Chicago in 6
You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky |
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FLYING -V
Top Prospect
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Posted - 04/29/2010 : 21:11:51
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sorry im a little late on this hoping it wont get me dq'd.
round 2 picks:
pitt in 5: lighting doesnt strike twice
bos in 6: savard's back and philly injured
hawks in 7: ?
wings in 7: detroit is 2 good
Its not worth winning if you cant win big! |
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Beans15
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Posted - 04/29/2010 : 22:08:35
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A number of people did not put in picks for the 2nd round. No surprise for some of the guests, but members??
tbar, sensfan101, bounty2k3, Hugh G Reaction????
Gotta think that one can't accept picks much later than the end of the games on Friday.
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Beans15
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Posted - 04/29/2010 : 22:10:55
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Originally posted by slozo
Well Beans, it is your call, and as it was pointed out, there isn't any money riding on it . . . but I certainly think it should be somewhat cumulative in nature - otherwise guys like you that just barely squeaked in could easily win it!
This isn't a democracy. My ball, my rules!!
Kidding,
Last year I though the same as you, however with each round losing 1/2 the entries, it really is a new game each round.
Much like Montreal squeeked in to take down the mighty Caps, I will sneak in and take down the mighty Slozo!!! |
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