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Alex116
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Posted - 11/25/2010 :  15:16:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Canucks announced today that Rick Rypien has been granted "an indefinite leave of absence for personal matters". This is the second time this has happened as he missed nearly the entire season a couple years ago, although i believe he was slightly injured at that time as well? Regardless, he was away from the team.

Have to wonder what is up, they're certainly not saying much of anything.....

http://www.teamradio.ca/news/rick-rypien-granted-leave-of-absence-from-canucks/

HawkinOilCountry
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Posted - 11/25/2010 :  15:37:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My rumor mill came up with "battling substance abuse"... make of that what you will, 79% of rumors are sleeping around and 44% of statistics are made up.

The arena wall in chicago should be credited with a goal.
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Alex116
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Posted - 11/25/2010 :  15:55:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HawkinOilCountry

My rumor mill came up with "battling substance abuse"... make of that what you will, 79% of rumors are sleeping around and 44% of statistics are made up.

The arena wall in chicago should be credited with a goal.



Drinking problem was my first thought, which would fall under substance abuse i guess, but that's sort of the obvious. Won't be surprised to hear that's what it is but ya never know i suppose? Heard the rumour of "depression" last time this happened? For most it's hard to believe a pro athlete could suffer from depression, but it can happen!
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Beans15
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Posted - 11/25/2010 :  16:56:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Considering this is the 2nd leave the guy has had from the Canucks in the past few seasons, it does smell a little like a substance abuse kind of thing.

I would not be surprised to see the Canucks get this guy back health and they hand him his walking papers. It's not like he is a every day line up player anyway.
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nuxfan
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Posted - 11/25/2010 :  17:20:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
this does smell like substance abuse, although nothing has been confirmed. The first time this happened they didn't say why either, although they speculated that he was frustrated by a string of injuries that had happened right beforehand. If it is substance abuse, then good for him for recognizing that he has a problem and trying to deal with it before the league stomps on him.

My guess is actually depression. The timing of this leave and the last one, in relation to other on-ice incidents, lead me to think this. We'll see what happens.
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Alex116
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Posted - 11/25/2010 :  22:07:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
nuxfan....do you recall the last time he was on the long leave that the rumour of "depression" came up or am i dreaming it? I seem to recall hearing that but don't think they ever confirmed it then either?
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Awesome One
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Posted - 11/26/2010 :  06:19:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
First thought runs to substance-abuse, but Alex depression for pro athletes is a little more common than you'd think.

There was once a license plate in Toronto that abbreviated "Go Leafs" it read "Golfs".
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nuxfan
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Posted - 11/26/2010 :  08:32:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the depression rumour surfaced the first time he was on leave. He had left after a string of injuries limited him to only a few games one year, and a statement issued by the Canucks hinted that he was "frustrated" by not being able to perform due to those injuries. It didn't sound like substance abuse at the time, thats for sure.

Depression hits anyone, whether you're an athlete or not. It is commonly associated with concussions and recovery from concussions, but can go hand-in-hand with any injury that is difficult to overcome.

I didn't think that Rypien was injured right now though. I had actually wondered whether or not it was depression related to the incident with the fan in MIN...
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Awesome One
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Posted - 11/26/2010 :  15:06:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nuxfan
I didn't think that Rypien was injured right now though. I had actually wondered whether or not it was depression related to the incident with the fan in MIN...



I would not be surprised at all if it is related to that incedent.

There was once a license plate in Toronto that abbreviated "Go Leafs" it read "Golfs".
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Utemin
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Posted - 11/27/2010 :  18:13:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Awesome One

quote:
Originally posted by nuxfan
I didn't think that Rypien was injured right now though. I had actually wondered whether or not it was depression related to the incident with the fan in MIN...



I would not be surprised at all if it is related to that incedent.

There was once a license plate in Toronto that abbreviated "Go Leafs" it read "Golfs".


I 100% agree with this Rypien has a real Clean record. besides PIM of course, but something made him angry during that game making him Lash out at a fan It is too bad because Rypien was one of the most respected players in the league. If this is not the case I am almost certain it is not Substance abuse.

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nuxfan
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Posted - 11/29/2010 :  15:30:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Canucks tight lipped Rypien after pulls disappearing/3892847/story.html

Found this online (a story about Rypien in the Sun made me go looking), the wording here definitely points to a mental health issue for Rypien, not substance abuse. I'm still thinking depression.

NOTE - the URL tag in this wiki control doesn't seem to like the URL, here it is without tags:

http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Canucks+tight+lipped+Rypien+after+pulls+disappearing/3892847/story.html

Edited by - nuxfan on 11/29/2010 15:32:03
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Alex116
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Posted - 11/29/2010 :  21:46:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interesting stuff nuxfan.

Funny thing is, this past weekend a friend of a friend claims to have heard that Rypien has a drug problem, a fairly serious one? Again, this is strictly just a rumour and i don't even know where he heard this from? So take it for what it's worth and clearly that's not much.
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Yewcandoit
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Posted - 11/29/2010 :  23:21:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I guess that explains how he reacted to that Wild fan. Must be bipolar!
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nuxfan
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Posted - 03/08/2011 :  15:26:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
according to the Sun, Rypien is starting his comeback, and will be reporting to the Moose. No word yet on whether he'll play with the Canucks again this season (although he IS the 4th line centre that we've been trying to replace all year long...), but at least he's on the mend.

The team did label is absense as "mental health", didn't elaborate further. Apparently they had to get a special exemption for his salary to come off the books while he was out, and they'll have trouble getting him back in the lineup without moving someone else down.

If he does make it back to health and can make a comeback to the team in time for the playoffs, he'd be a welcome addition. I would think Tambellini would be a prime candidate to go down in his place, especially if there is any kind of chemistry with Higgins on the second or third line. I haven't been overly impressed with Lapierre yet...
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sahis34
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Posted - 03/08/2011 :  15:59:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HawkinOilCountry

My rumor mill came up with "battling substance abuse"... make of that what you will, 79% of rumors are sleeping around and 44% of statistics are made up.

The arena wall in chicago should be credited with a goal.



If 44% of statistics are made up then what chance is there that that statistic was made up

Go OILERS Go!!!
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Posted - 03/08/2011 :  16:05:37  Reply with Quote
I heard he is effected by Seasonal Depression, which makes sense both times hes had to step away have been around the same time of year, glad to hear hes playing again even if its in the Ahl
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Alex116
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Posted - 03/08/2011 :  17:11:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest4803

I heard he is effected by Seasonal Depression, which makes sense both times hes had to step away have been around the same time of year, glad to hear hes playing again even if its in the Ahl



I've gotten "seasonally depressed" the past two years, right after Chicago eliminated the Canucks.
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Guest4623
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Posted - 03/08/2011 :  20:00:54  Reply with Quote
I am a Manitoba Moose Fan And im One vey Happy Camper Rypien was one of my fav's b4 he went to the Big Show.. It well be Nice to see him get it back together again.. Manitoba is Doing very Well but a Little Toughness never Hurts.. I can see Tambi sent back down to Manitoba If Rypien can make it back to the Big Show.. Moose win Tonight ist in there Division Love it...
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Alex116
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Posted - 03/08/2011 :  22:05:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
nuxfan....heard the "radio guys" talking about this tonight on my way home from work. Can't remember who it was that said it, but one of them figured that the Canucks are doing all they can to help him and give him another shot at "the bigs" to continue his career, but in his opinion, it likely wouldn't be in Vancouver. He said that it's more than likely they will leave him in Manitoba and give him all the support they can, but likely not offer him a new contract as he's UFA at the end of the season.

Either way, whether he plays for the Canucks again or not, you have to give the organization a lot of credit for the help they've given him in this difficult situation.
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Guest4623
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Posted - 03/11/2011 :  06:10:59  Reply with Quote
I bet you $100.00 he well get the call up.. Nucks can't stay Injurie Free..
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nuxfan
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Posted - 03/11/2011 :  06:14:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yeah, I can't see the Canucks going forward with him after this contract ends. Its one thing to support your player while under contract, but another to resign them when you don't think they're 100%. I too hope Rypien makes it back up this season - as guest says, we could probably use him at some point - but I don't think we'll see him next season.
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FutureKesler
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Posted - 03/11/2011 :  07:14:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rypien confirmed that it wasn't substance abuse. He just said "I had to take care of some things" Did you see his beard? He looks like he live in the mountains for about a year. Besides, his fighting style wouldn't fit in as well as it once did for the canucks, and with Max Lapierre in the 4th line centre role, where does he fit in?

Kesler is the TRUE Nucks Captain.
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Alex116
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Posted - 03/11/2011 :  09:55:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest4623

I bet you $100.00 he well get the call up.. Nucks can't stay Injurie Free..




Thanks but no thanks. Don't shoot the messenger! I was only reporting what i heard about the situation.

I don't think it's far fetched to think he may yet get a call up. If the Canucks go deep and face some injuries and/or adversity, he may just be plugged back into that 4th line energy role.
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Posted - 03/11/2011 :  19:41:55  Reply with Quote
oH MY God you would take Max Lapierre over ripper .. Dude u r seriesly sick.....
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nuxfan
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Posted - 03/11/2011 :  21:25:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
FutureKesler, I think Rypien would be the Canucks first choice for 4th line centre - they've been trying to replace him since he left the team in the fall, with little success. Lapierre is planB at best, and so far I haven't been terribly impressed.... I'd take Rypien back in a heartbeat.
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Alex116
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Posted - 03/12/2011 :  00:34:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd take "the old Rypien" back in a heartbeat, but at the same time, i'd give just as much chance to Lapierre to fit in as i would "the new Rypien".

I like what Lapierre has to offer and i think he'll fit in, in time. Not taking anything away from Ryp (especially seeing as i don't know what's been going on with him) and if he's back to what the team thinks is good enough to help, i'd welcome him back with open arms!
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