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 Posted - 01/28/2011 : 07:21:31
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The All-Star Game format this year has been reduced to a pick-up game where captains pick their own teams . . . and where no one has anything to play for.
Do you like the current All-Star Game format? Did you like the old format better? Do you want any of the previous formats to return? Do you have some great new idea that'll make you millions?
Let us know your thoughts on the All-Star game, and how it should be run.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
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Posted - 01/28/2011 : 07:29:34
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Myself, I yearn for the return of the Stanley Cup Champs from the year before, against the best of the rest. And, there should be some financial incentive, only given to the winning team . . . even 5 or 10 grand would be enough, I think, even for millionaire superstars.
But yeah, I'd love to a game like that . . . when those superstars have to deal with good shutdown lines, and lines with excellent chemistry, and solid defensive pairings, versus a bunch of stars who overall might have more skill, but aren't that familiar with one another.
Would make for a good game, and frankly, more entertaining.
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Guest6615
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Posted - 01/28/2011 : 07:47:54
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You can put lipstick on a pig, but its still a pig. All star game will be unwatchable hockey for any reasonable fan over the age of 12 regardless of whatever 'format' they dress it up in. Any 'rivalry' is contrived, and since players aren't going to play normally (no hitting, intensity), then adding financial incentive is also going to prove fairly useless.
My opinion is to axe the all star game altogether, which is unlikely but at least hockey doesn't have the worst version (NFL Pro Bowl) of all the sports, but its close.
As an aside, why does TSN consistently refer to tonights draft as a 'fantasy' draft? The purpose is to select teams to represent each side of the all-star game. In fact, there is no 'fantasy' element to it at all. Should be called the 'All star draft'. Captains are not getting virtual 'points' for the game, after all. Tsn is throwing 'fantasy' in there for no real purpose. I realize this is something that shouldn't bug me, but it does. |
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Alex116
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Posted - 01/28/2011 : 08:07:41
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Slozo, i agree with the guest that even with financial incentive, teams won't play 100% like they would if it were a regular game, therefore, it's always gonna be a basic "exhibition" game. No one wants to get hurt at a game like this so it really can't be taken all that seriously.
One question i have is, how did the captains pick their alternate / assistant captains and are they involved in today's draft? |
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ToXXiK1
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Posted - 01/28/2011 : 08:10:33
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The sad thing is, the "draft" will bring in more viewers than the game. How is it Skinner is playing in the game? Is he not a rookie? It was my understanding the rookie's have their own thing going on?
"Hockey is a man's game. The team with the most real men wins.” - Brian Burke |
Edited by - ToXXiK1 on 01/28/2011 08:13:37 |
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Alex116
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Posted - 01/28/2011 : 08:17:33
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Originally posted by ToXXiK1
The sad thing is, the "draft" will bring in more viewers than the game. How is it Skinner is playing in the game? Is he not a rookie? It was my understanding the rookie's have their own thing going on?
"Hockey is a man's game. The team with the most real men wins.” - Brian Burke
He was added as a replacement and while the rookies do have a skills comp, i don't think they were particularly banned from playing in the game itself? Just that up until Skinner, none of them made the cut? |
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Posted - 01/28/2011 : 08:59:44
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I consider myself a voracious hockey fan, and I used to like watching the All-Star Game. North Americans against the Rest of the World was great as well, IMHO.
So the pig/lipstick comment is stupid, IMHO.
As is the comment about "they won't play like it's a real game" . . . as if that was ever in question. You might as well say then, using the same logic, that the regular season isn't worth watching, only the playoffs, for exactly the same reason.
Give even the slightest of incentives to the players, make it an affair where bragging rights/pride is at stake (as in the champs vs the rest of the best, or North America vs the World), and the game will be somewhat competetive guaranteed. No, not like a regular season game, but competetive.
Fact is, making made-up teams gives everyone even less affiliation and comraderie amongst team members than having each conference play against each other . . . and that makes for an extremely laissez-faire game.
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nuxfan
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Posted - 01/28/2011 : 09:33:52
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Its hard to make the all-star game the Stanley Cup winners vs the rest of the league, given that teams rarely stay complete year to year anymore. However, I do think its a neat idea.
As for financial incentive - they should allow members from the winning team to get their escrow money back. That would be significant. |
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ToXXiK1
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Posted - 01/28/2011 : 10:06:52
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Maybe the losing team has to pay the winning team? An actual wager..
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ryan93
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Posted - 01/28/2011 : 11:07:52
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It is what it is. I don't think you'll ever find a way to make it as competitive as a regular season game, but who cares, it's not a regular season game. The kids still love the all-star game, and that can't be overlooked. I know when i was a kid, it was a date i had marked on the calendar every year& there was no way i'd miss it. While i still enjoy the skills competetion, the all-star game itself is just meh, but i'll still watch it. I actually thought the game 2 years ago was fairly entertaining, at least the second half of it.
To me, it's still an important weekend, a fun celebration of the great athletes we have in our game. |
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doublechamp7
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Posted - 01/28/2011 : 11:42:56
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They should at least put hitting into the game, the skills comp. is way bettter than the game. I think also, for the skills competition they should bring in the fastest people in the league, no matter if they should be an allstar or not.
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Posted - 01/28/2011 : 13:10:48
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I agree with most of the comments made, and Ryan93 sums it up best for me. You're never going to make it a competitive game – it's not worth seeing a key player injured because of their attendance at the all-star game.
How about this for a format though? Kids vs. Veterans. You still pick the best players in the game (fans can select, team captains can select – it doesn't matter to me), but you divide the team into two squads, and the cut-off age is right in the middle.
So you would have the best players under 26 or 27 years of age play the best players over that age?
It could be interesting, but once again, the all-star game is just a glorified exhibition game, and a chance (especially for the kids) to see the best players have some fun on the ice. |
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Guest6615
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Posted - 01/28/2011 : 13:27:50
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I just cringe at whatever angle the whole "Stan Lee presents" crap is going to take. If they try to turn hockey into a comic book or make it cartoonish, no thank you.
Also Lidstrom is possibly the worst captains pick they could have settled on for the draft. Not because he's not a great hockey player or leader, but because he's as engaging and interesting as a cardboard box. I can picture him stone-faced making selection after selection. Staal is good, but the other captain should have been a younger guy as well. Also, captains should be encouraged to drink a lot before making their picks. |
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T-RAV
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Posted - 01/28/2011 : 13:52:22
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Originally posted by Guest4178
I agree with most of the comments made, and Ryan93 sums it up best for me. You're never going to make it a competitive game – it's not worth seeing a key player injured because of their attendance at the all-star game.
How about this for a format though? Kids vs. Veterans. You still pick the best players in the game (fans can select, team captains can select – it doesn't matter to me), but you divide the team into two squads, and the cut-off age is right in the middle.
So you would have the best players under 26 or 27 years of age play the best players over that age?
It could be interesting, but once again, the all-star game is just a glorified exhibition game, and a chance (especially for the kids) to see the best players have some fun on the ice.
I like this idea |
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ryan93
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Posted - 01/28/2011 : 14:14:54
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Originally posted by Guest6615
Also Lidstrom is possibly the worst captains pick they could have settled on for the draft. Not because he's not a great hockey player or leader, but because he's as engaging and interesting as a cardboard box. I can picture him stone-faced making selection after selection. Staal is good, but the other captain should have been a younger guy as well. Also, captains should be encouraged to drink a lot before making their picks.
Did you see the Shane Doan/Paul Bissonnette mock draft on TSN last night...i'm guessing Bissonnette is the kinda guy you'd like as captain :)
The other 30/under 30 game has been suggested quite a bit over the years, and i wouldn't be surprised to see them go that route in a future game. As you said though, if you were to choose the all-stars without taking age into consideration, that number would probably have to be dropped a bit as most the players that make the all-star teams these days are in their 20's. |
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ryan93
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Posted - 01/28/2011 : 14:17:32
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| And has a replacement been made for every injured player? I know last week there was talk that there would be no last minute replacements brought in. If a player was injured and couldn't make it, then there might be some kinda of competition among the rookies during the skills competition, with the winner earning a spot in the all-star game. I know there was quite a few replacements were announced a couple days ago though & i haven't heard any more on this, so i'm assuming nobody was injured last night... |
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Pasty7
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Posted - 01/28/2011 : 18:26:44
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i just watched the draft and i love it! Props to shanny because what we got to understand this game is not for us.. we write on Hockey forums,, hockey is sold on us nothing is going to make us stop waching hockey,,, this is for the guys and girls who are casual hockey watchers and this sells the game in spades! what i would like to see is a wager between the two teams with the winnings going to a charity!!
"I led the league in "Go get 'em next time." - Bob Uecker
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Alex116
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Posted - 01/28/2011 : 22:46:41
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No one answered my question from earlier......
Anyone know how the assistant captains were selected? |
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Pasty7
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Posted - 01/29/2011 : 00:00:01
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Originally posted by Alex116
No one answered my question from earlier......
Anyone know how the assistant captains were selected?
Does it always have to be all about you Big AL i mean really........ geeze ,,,
I havn't the faintest idea but i would like to know aswell
"I led the league in "Go get 'em next time." - Bob Uecker
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Alex116
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Posted - 01/29/2011 : 00:21:08
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Originally posted by Pasty7
Does it always have to be all about you Big AL i mean really........ geeze ,,,
I havn't the faintest idea but i would like to know aswell
"I led the league in "Go get 'em next time." - Bob Uecker
Darn right it does! How dare all you ignore my question! LOL
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ryan93
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Posted - 02/05/2011 : 19:49:42
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| First off, it'll never happen, much less in mid-season...but i was just reading on tsn.ca about the guy in the KHL who won the hardest shot with a 110 mph blast. I was glancing at some of the comments, and someone suggested the NHL all-stars vs. the KHL all-stars (both game & skills comp). Would definitely be interesting... |
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Alex116
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Posted - 02/06/2011 : 01:32:55
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Originally posted by ryan93
First off, it'll never happen, much less in mid-season...but i was just reading on tsn.ca about the guy in the KHL who won the hardest shot with a 110 mph blast. I was glancing at some of the comments, and someone suggested the NHL all-stars vs. the KHL all-stars (both game & skills comp). Would definitely be interesting...
ryan93....i heard about that too, and not to say that no one could ever beat an NHLer's shot, BUT, i remember the probs (every year) to do with the radar gun. I'd like to see an even calibrated gun!
For ex.... was this dude's first shot or two clocked at 101, then suddenly he hit 110?
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