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admin
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 Posted - 02/21/2007 : 10:35:06
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Poll Question:
The GMs are still meeting in Florida. Another idea brought forward was to reduce a minor penalty in OT from two minutes to one minute. Good idea or bad idea?
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leigh
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Canada
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Posted - 02/21/2007 : 10:40:12
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We don't need more games going to the Shoot out. At least with a longer penalties, games get decided in OT and not the circus portion of the game.
What would happen if a penalty is called with a few seconds left in the 3rd? Does it get knocked down to a minute or stay at two? |
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bablaboushka
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 02/21/2007 : 10:53:28
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I think then the time left in the penalty would get cut in half (proportionate to the length of penalties going from 2 minutes to 1). My team encountered this in a tournament in Saint John, NB this year. The periods were two 15 run time and the third was a 12 stop time. Penalties in the first two periods were 3 minutes and in the third they were 2. At the end of the second period, we had exactly 2 minutes (of the 3) left in a penalty. Seen as we were going into the third, the time left in the penalty was reduced to 1:20 (2/3 of the remaining 2 minutes run time).
As far as the question, I think it's a horrible idea. A penalty is a penalty, who cares how long the period is? |
Edited by - bablaboushka on 02/21/2007 10:54:03 |
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Saku Steen
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 02/21/2007 : 11:45:44
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| That would be terrible if they did that. Just because the period is 5 minutes dosent mean that the penalty should be 1 minute. What will they think of next..........? |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
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Posted - 02/21/2007 : 11:58:40
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A minor penalty is two minutes, regardless of the length of playing time. Why is everyone out to change the game all of a sudden? The instigator rule, the goal sizes, now this...hockey has worked fine for years, it doesn't need to be revised.
They want this for OT now...what are they gonna want next? Shorter penalties in the last 5 minutes of the third period too? The GMs' idea is completely pointless. |
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PuckNuts
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 02/21/2007 : 12:03:16
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quote:
Originally posted by bablaboushka
I think then the time left in the penalty would get cut in half (proportionate to the length of penalties going from 2 minutes to 1). My team encountered this in a tournament in Saint John, NB this year. The periods were two 15 run time and the third was a 12 stop time. Penalties in the first two periods were 3 minutes and in the third they were 2. At the end of the second period, we had exactly 2 minutes (of the 3) left in a penalty. Seen as we were going into the third, the time left in the penalty was reduced to 1:20 (2/3 of the remaining 2 minutes run time).
The reason that you have 3 min penalties in run time is to stop the peanalized team from waisting time on line changes, so if a team wants to make a line change every time the whistle blows they have to try to waist 3 min of time rather than 2 min.
Light travels faster than sound, this is why some people appear bright, until they speak... |
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ultimatetitman
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 02/21/2007 : 12:57:16
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While I agree it's a bad idea, I would be tempted to support it, but only if calls are as weak as the one last night (Monday) against Niedermayer. Now, I am a Canucks fan, and that Power Play gave Vancouver the win, but the call was weak!!!! If they are going to maintain a zero tolerance for hooking, then I would actually support a 1 minute penalty in OT.
However, if the game was called the way it should be called - which will never happen with Buttman as the commish - then I would be totally opposed to the tidea. |
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Guest2895
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Posted - 02/21/2007 : 13:02:58
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| I am a huge Canucks fan as well and was shocked by the whislting down of the play to call the penalty against Niedermayer. The problem with hoping that a game will be called in congruity the whole way through is that is just wont happen. Take last night's game for example. The last 10 minutes of the 3rd period had everything from undetected highsticks, to blaintant interference and mowing down goaltenders. The refs put away their whistles. Then overtime comes and we see a weak penalty that would only be called if it was a game on CBC that the league was watching from Toronto. It was a ridiculous call that granted my team victory, but to change to a 1 minute penalty in overtime if they will continue to make mediocre-at-best calls doesn't make any sense if the refs don't know themselves what they need to call |
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leafsfan_101
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 02/21/2007 : 15:10:23
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I hate the idea. I think that a penalty is a penalty, good or bad call, is two minutes. By shifting it to one minute it defeats the whole purpose of the powerplay.
Long Live Leafs Nation!! |
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Patchy
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 02/21/2007 : 16:56:51
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i agree that a penalty is a penalty and it would also slow play down becasue people would'nt be as worried about getting a penalty in OT, cuz it's a shorter time..If they do this, the sticks will come up more etc...
not a good idea.
~~Go Leafs Go~~ |
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Guest2891
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Posted - 02/21/2007 : 17:37:44
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Originally posted by Patchy
i agree that a penalty is a penalty and it would also slow play down becasue people would'nt be as worried about getting a penalty in OT, cuz it's a shorter time..If they do this, the sticks will come up more etc...
not a good idea.
~~Go Leafs Go~~
I disagree with that assessment patchy. Not a single player in the NHL would be less worried about getting a penalty in OT due to the fact that the penalty was 1 minute instead of 2. Nobody wants to be the goat when it comes to costing your team the extra point. Let's not forget that a 4 on 3 for 60 seconds would still be pretty detrimental to a team trying to defend it.
I will still say however that to make a change would be ridiculous. Here's to keeping the NHL the way it is! |
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Patchy
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 02/21/2007 : 19:16:50
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Originally posted by Guest2891
quote:
Originally posted by Patchy
i agree that a penalty is a penalty and it would also slow play down becasue people would'nt be as worried about getting a penalty in OT, cuz it's a shorter time..If they do this, the sticks will come up more etc...
not a good idea.
~~Go Leafs Go~~
I disagree with that assessment patchy. Not a single player in the NHL would be less worried about getting a penalty in OT due to the fact that the penalty was 1 minute instead of 2. Nobody wants to be the goat when it comes to costing your team the extra point. Let's not forget that a 4 on 3 for 60 seconds would still be pretty detrimental to a team trying to defend it.
I will still say however that to make a change would be ridiculous. Here's to keeping the NHL the way it is!
i see where you're coming from but don't you think that some players would'nt think that way? maybe players think that it wouldn't be as much of a punishment if they were only in the box for a minute, regardless of whether it's in OT or not. Bottom line is, just keep it as it is.
~~Go Leafs Go~~ |
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Ripley
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 02/21/2007 : 23:33:04
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quote:
Originally posted by Guest2891
quote:
Originally posted by Patchy
i agree that a penalty is a penalty and it would also slow play down becasue people would'nt be as worried about getting a penalty in OT, cuz it's a shorter time..If they do this, the sticks will come up more etc...
not a good idea.
~~Go Leafs Go~~
I disagree with that assessment patchy. Not a single player in the NHL would be less worried about getting a penalty in OT due to the fact that the penalty was 1 minute instead of 2. Nobody wants to be the goat when it comes to costing your team the extra point. Let's not forget that a 4 on 3 for 60 seconds would still be pretty detrimental to a team trying to defend it.
I will still say however that to make a change would be ridiculous. Here's to keeping the NHL the way it is!
I think they'd still be worried but the ramifications would be considerably less. |
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vintage
Top Prospect
Canada
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Posted - 02/22/2007 : 10:04:12
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Either way it a good deal 1 minute is very understandable but the same time 2 is the rules for now an dmine aswwell stick with them
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Beans15
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Posted - 02/22/2007 : 10:37:37
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4 on 4 makes the overtime interesting enough. A 2 min penalty in OT is almost a sure loss. If not, it is a huge boost to the team moral.
Why change this?? The league is tampering too much at this point. Soon it will re-introduce the Fox Puck and slow players will be allowed to put rockets on their skates.
LEAVE THE DAMN GAME ALONE!!!
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admin
Forum Admin
Canada
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Posted - 02/22/2007 : 11:21:42
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quote:
Originally posted by Beans15
4 on 4 makes the overtime interesting enough. A 2 min penalty in OT is almost a sure loss. If not, it is a huge boost to the team moral.
Why change this?? The league is tampering too much at this point. Soon it will re-introduce the Fox Puck and slow players will be allowed to put rockets on their skates.
LEAVE THE DAMN GAME ALONE!!!
AGREED! Lets focus on promoting the game, not changing it. Changes have been made, lets roll with it for a while. |
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Guest4664
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Posted - 02/22/2007 : 12:28:27
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I have to disagree with leaving the game alone. Well maybe to some extent. To change the rules of the time of a penalty is absurd I must agree, but to simply look at the overtime games since the all-star break you see a clear distinction:
Penalty called in overtime : 7 Ended in Overtime (none SH), 6 went to shootout
No Penalty Called: 11 Ended in Overtime, 24 went to a shootout
Note: of the 7 that ended with a penalty, none were the team where the penalty was called against (i.e. none short-handed and none after the penalty expired).
I think most people agree that they would prefer to see a game end in overtime than go to the shootout because it leaves the team game in tact. When a penalty is called in overtime however, it leaves one team largely disadvantaged and pretty much have the fans praying for about a 1/2 chance to go to a shootout (which is often undesired anyways). What the league was attempting was to have fans hope their team can expire the penalty (it only being one minute) and still have time to score their own goal in overtime. I do think this is the incorrect solution, as many do, but i think they have the right idea. I think the overtime should simply be extended to 10 minutes (at least) so that the teams can get through the penalty and still have 8 minutes in overtime to do some damage. |
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