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Alex116
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 Posted - 04/13/2011 : 20:58:16
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Rumours floating around (they talked about it briefly during the 2nd intermission of the Canucks/Hawks game) that Phoenix, yet again, will be returning to Winnipeg and that it'll be announced sometime after the Coyotes are eliminated from the playoffs?
Wonder if this is old news / old rumour or if it actually has any substance this time around???
Of course, at this point, the NHL is denying the rumour. No, really? 
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KariyaSelanne
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Posted - 04/13/2011 : 23:22:53
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I live around Winnipeg and this is a new rumour that had surfaced today. Apparently there are articles on many sports news sites such as sportsnet? I would find a link but I am currently on my phone |
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semin-rules
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Posted - 04/14/2011 : 06:13:40
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| I live in Winnipeg and live near the mts center, and I know the manager of the suite levels very well and she has told me that they are doing renovations on all the suites to make them nicer for an NHL arena. And that all the broadcast booths have gotten re done, and the talk about adding the extra seats has really picked up. Tsn had said that everydAy a deal is not made, NHL in Winnipeg looks looks more and more to happen next season even. |
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Posted - 04/14/2011 : 07:11:36
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| Oh My God this so Boringgggggggggggg already.. When the Yotes lose there series we well find out the truth i guess.. |
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Beans15
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Posted - 04/14/2011 : 07:57:36
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The reports I heard is that the Phoenix deal is all but dead. 90% done was the words used. There is apparently a deal that could move a team to Winnipeg in a matter of days if needed.
In the end, if the Phoenix deal is dead, move on. It's been more than long enough. When the whole Balsillie thing started a few years ago I was very much on the side of 'prove a new owner can't do something better in Phoenix." After 2 years of not being able to find an owner, the NHL has done more than enough to prove the point. I feel bad for the people of Glendale. Not the hockey fans as it was partially up to them(and their wallets) to make the team viable. I feel back for the taxpayers who are now on the hook for a $300 million stadium who's only tenent will be a 8 game lacrosse season. |
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Posted - 04/14/2011 : 08:37:34
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This is hardly boring news. Yes, the rumours have been reported many times before about a team moving to Winnipeg (and more recently, it's been the Coyotes), but it's looking very possible right now.
I'm not from Winnipeg (or was I ever a Jets fan), but as a Canadian, I get very excited about the prospect of Winnipeg regaining their hockey franchise. The fans there deserve it!
I do feel a bit bad for the Coyotes fans. (At least the ones who show up and support the team.) But it's never been a big hockey town, not enough to support an NHL team.
I agree with Beans (well his comments, not him displaying a Leafs avatar), that it's too bad for the taxpayers there. Either way, they lose. If the team were to stay, they would have to subsidize it enormously. (Which they do not appear interested in doing.) If the team goes (which appears more likely), they are stuck with an expensive arena, with no major tenant!
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Posted - 04/14/2011 : 13:25:57
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How about a team in Toronto.
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Posted - 04/14/2011 : 13:30:28
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Phoneix Coyotes(NHL) --------> Winnipeg
Manitoba Moose ( AHL) ---------> Abbotsford
Abotsford Heat (AHL) ------------> Chilliwak
Chillawak Bruins (WHL) ---------> Victoria
Victoria Salmon Kings (ECHL) ---------> Phoneix, or anywhere else
The Ownership group that owns the SaveonFoods Arena in Victoria BC just bought the Chilliwak Bruins of the WHL and its more the 90% sure that they will be moving the team to Victoria before the Fall, According to a few different rumors there may be quite a few teams tied into the moving of the Coyotes. |
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just1n
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Posted - 04/14/2011 : 14:21:42
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| Yes, this is boring because it's been in the news for years. Wake me up when it actually happens. |
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Posted - 04/14/2011 : 17:08:42
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And enlighten us "Justin" what you find so exciting in the hockey world. I'm sure there are a lot of interesting things going on (especially the playoff games/matchups taking place) but for TSN and Sportsnet (amongst other media outlets) reporting on this story, there must be some merit in reporting this news. It's not exactly a slow news day/week in Canadian sports, and in particular, hockey.
If you find a topic boring, you don't have to comment, and if you're right about the subject matter being boring, it will fade away with nary a comment being made.
And to the point raised in the original posting ("the NHL denying the rumour"), I share the mock surprise. However, the NHL is now on record to say that Winnipeg is a consideration if things don't work out in Phoenix. That's a big step for the NHL, where the usual stance is "we are doing our best to keep the franchise in whatever city is having a problem."
And this just in: Don Cherry just finished up his Coach's Corner with this final comment: "Winnipeg - get ready!" Now he doesn't know everything, but he's definitely not boring! :)
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Pasty7
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Posted - 04/14/2011 : 17:42:16
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Originally posted by Guest9982
How about a team in Toronto.
lol
"I led the league in "Go get 'em next time." - Bob Uecker
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Posted - 04/14/2011 : 18:02:46
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Seriously. Toronto was the topic of conversation for another team earlier in the year. The Leafs will always have the core fanbase of delusional fans. Quebec City and Winnepeg could get teams in the near future. The NHL should not expand past the teams they have now.
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Posted - 04/15/2011 : 05:17:59
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The funny thing is . . . the chance of a Phoenix deal has basically been dead for two years. We knew this two years ago, folks . . . remember, when Beans was defending Gary Bettman and saying, "no no no! believe the Lying Lawyer, The Count would NEVER lie to us, there are guys just waiting in th wings to take this team over . . . just . . . over . . . the rainbow . . . "
I may be paraphrasing there
Bettman has consistently and constantly misrepresented and lied about almost everything having to do with finances. It's actually pretty amazing to watch, and one can only shake one's head at his string of statements over the years on the Phoenix situation . . . which brings us to today.
What can The Count do to keep the Coyotes in Phoenix . . . or better yet, what new sheister move does The Count have up his sleeve?
I got it!
What better way to thumb a nose at the real fans of the game, largely Canadian, of course, than to move Phoenix to . . . Kansas City. Another city with zero hockey culture, in another desert . . . a wheat desert, this time.
Toronto will block any move to southern Ontario and clearly has so much power to influence the league, that The Count will never let it happen. Moving the Coyotes franchise back to a city that lost a franchise once already? No no, it will be said, why would you do that? We've only done it already with Atlanta, Colorado - american cities - so clearly, it would never work in a hockey-mad market like Winnipeg. No siree.
No, my guess is The Count, and Big Brother TO will get the Coyotes franchise to move to (in this order):
1) Kansas City
2) Seattle
3) some other american city
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(Bettman's grave)
4) Winnipeg
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(Toronto ownership is successfully sued for league tampering)
5) Toronto area/southern Ont.
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Beans15
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Posted - 04/15/2011 : 07:17:14
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Uh, paraphrasing to say the least.
It's not like there hasn't been a number of people that have stood up and took interesting in buying the team and keeping them in Phoenix at least to try. So let's not get to left wing on this situations. The facts are the facts and the opinions are the opinions. Let's not confuse one with the other.
KC is a viable option. There are various cities that have proven to not be hockey markets that have supported teams for decades. LA is a great example. As is San Jose, Philadelphia, and Washington who did not have any hockey presence before the NHL showed up.
I think based on the timing aspect, Winnipeg is the option for now. However, if ATL is still tanking, I would not be suprised to see that franchise move to KC this summer. |
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Posted - 04/15/2011 : 07:23:38
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Ok, I can't resist . . . here are some Bettman quotes, with my commentary by yours truly afterward. Many of the quotes have been taken from the "Live the Bettman Dream" website.
"We'll hang in there as long as it makes sense and as long as we can," Bettman said in late January (2011). "But time is getting short. Make no mistake about that. This is not something that is of infinite duration."
The Winnipeg Jets moved to Phoenix in 1996 and became the Coyotes. The franchise has never turned a profit in the desert in its 15 years and counting existence.
Apparently, losing tons of money for the NHL for 15 years straight makes sense for Bettman. Rejecting a billionaire owner to move the team to a profitable and hockey hungry market and instead having the league take over ownership to lose even more millions "makes sense" to Bettman.
“As of right now, no one has an understanding or an agreement that we’ll put a team there. I know they want a team. There’s an ownership group that wants a team. There’s a commitment from a community that had a team that wants a team. And there’s a building that didn’t exist when the last team left and nobody wanted to own a team. So, Winnipeg would very much like to have a team, but as we gather here today, they don’t have one.”
Thanks for spelling out for us, Gary, what an idiot you and the NHL is for staying in Phoenix to lose money hand over fist. After losing money hand over fist for 15 years straight already, that is.
“You like to talk in cryptic things that only you know about.”
Yes . . . yes indeed. Bettman the straight-man, tell-it-like-it-is Gary, that's what we like to call him.
“We’re seeing teams make increasing use of the long pass so the puck goes up the ice now in the blink of an eye.”
Now he's just showing off . . . what astute knowledge of the game of hockey!
“When you refer to a potential Phoenix situation, you’re talking about a bankrupt club. Phoenix didn’t belong in bankruptcy.”
. . . . ?!? 15 years, losing millions and millions of dollars, no new owners, now the league is running one of its own teams . . . never a money making season . . . what does Gary not understand about the word bankrupt? Does he think the accountants made a mistake? Some ledger error gone unnoticed?
“Listen, we have a pretty good track record of fixing these things — Winnipeg and Quebec notwithstanding.”
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha . . . . . . . . . aaaaahhh. ahem. sigh. Good times, Gary, good times.
“What’s interesting is that the rise in concussions in the preliminary data from this season seem to be coming from accident events, collisions, players falling and banging into other things, not from head hits.”
For instance, just the other day, Gary himself got a concussion from banging his head against a brick wall 15 times, trying to demonstrate for a Canadian fan how to run a successful hockey franchise.
“With new ownership and with the accommodations the city of Glendale is prepared to make, we think the Coyotes can succeed.”
Probably a misquote - they are missing the . . . after succeed.
" . . . we think the Coyotes can succeed . . . in giving taxpayers of Phoenix 15 more years of debt, in giving a new owner 15 years of failure, in thwarting the franchise to move to a more lucrative Canadian market for yeat another 15 years.
Yeah, probably a misquote.
“This is about our fans. This is about renewal. This is about moving forward, about making the game the best it’s ever been.”
Uh hunh. That's what I've always said to myself when examining why a massive outpouring of fan demand for a new franchise in southern Ontario didn't result in a new team there, what with a billionaire owner willing to make lots of money for the NHL before a team even arrived there with massive season ticket sales for a non-existent team dwarfing the reality in Phoenix.
Yep. All about the fans.
“Oh, do I love Canada.”
Sure you do, Gary. Sure you do.
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Beans15
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Posted - 04/15/2011 : 08:15:32
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Holy Crap!! Did Michael Ignatiaff just high-jack Slozo's account?? That is the only person I know that can take so many things out of context and misrepresent so much information.
I have just a few thing to say:
The NHL has no bearing on how long an OWNER wishes to keep a franchise in a city. As long as there is an OWNER paying the bills than the NHL does not care. The original OWNER of the the Coyotes lost money and then sold the team. The next OWNER of the team lost money and went bankrupt. The NHL has been looking for a new OWNER for some time now.
Does anyone see a common theme there??
Finally, thank your lucky stars that Slozo does not run the NHL as almost every team in the NHL would have moved more than a few times. Edmonton, for example, did not have a profitable season between 1991 and 2004. Calgary lost money for almost a decade and were nearly sold. Ottawa has struggled. By Slozo's logic, they should have been moved because they lost money. Oh wait, they are Canadian so they are ok. Candian fans are better and deserve things more than anyone else so those teams don't count, right??
“You like to talk in cryptic things that only you know about.”
Are you sure you are not Gary Bettman yourself Slozo???
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Posted - 04/15/2011 : 17:10:26
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| Lol the New name well be the Manitoba Falcon's from what i have heard.. |
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Posted - 04/16/2011 : 04:48:31
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Originally posted by Beans15
Holy Crap!! Did Michael Ignatiaff just high-jack Slozo's account?? That is the only person I know that can take so many things out of context and misrepresent so much information.
I have just a few thing to say:
The NHL has no bearing on how long an OWNER wishes to keep a franchise in a city. As long as there is an OWNER paying the bills than the NHL does not care. The original OWNER of the the Coyotes lost money and then sold the team. The next OWNER of the team lost money and went bankrupt. The NHL has been looking for a new OWNER for some time now.
Does anyone see a common theme there??
Finally, thank your lucky stars that Slozo does not run the NHL as almost every team in the NHL would have moved more than a few times. Edmonton, for example, did not have a profitable season between 1991 and 2004. Calgary lost money for almost a decade and were nearly sold. Ottawa has struggled. By Slozo's logic, they should have been moved because they lost money. Oh wait, they are Canadian so they are ok. Candian fans are better and deserve things more than anyone else so those teams don't count, right??
“You like to talk in cryptic things that only you know about.”
Are you sure you are not Gary Bettman yourself Slozo???
So . . . you think that I just want to move any franchise that has lost money for a while. And you talk about ME misrepresenting someone's point?!?
Cripes.
Quick question Beans - If Phoenix has no owner now, why are they still in Phoenix? In the Winnipeg situation, in a city with a much larger traditional fanbase and not one with such a long and completely futile record as Phoenix, the league never stepped in to save it. Why? Because Bettman loves Canada? Because it's all for the fans?
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Beans15
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Posted - 04/16/2011 : 06:35:55
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I guess Slozo, everyone is perfect and never has anyone ever made a mistake. No way that someone could say is was wrong for not getting involved in Winnipeg or Quebec and try to right that wrong by getting involved in other teams when they are in trouble. No one attacked Bettman for getting involved with Tampa when their 2 owners were at odd and the NHL ran that team until a single owner could be source?? Nothing wrong with that??
It's amazing how quickly people forget the reality of a situation. Winnipeg was on the ropes for 2-3 years before the move actually happened. So was Quebec. What was the reason they left Slozo??? Did it have something to do with zero prospective owners stepping forward??? I can name at least 5 different groups that stepped forwards in the Phoenix situation, can you research and find even a single prospective owner in either Winnipeg OR Quebec before the moves happened?? You don't even have to find one in each city, find one between the two groups.
Reality is right here, Slozo, you are somewhere completely different. |
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Posted - 04/16/2011 : 08:01:50
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| thing is hasn't ownership pretty much been the problem from the start, truthfully our crappy dollar lead to this problem, but since the dollar will be worth more for a while bettmen might move them back to canada since canadian money is worth more now, it's all about money, the nhl will only care about canada if we can make them money which we are starting to do, but the US is to big a market to not try and try and try, |
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Posted - 04/16/2011 : 08:15:50
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lol how did that work out for those five people you can name beans? Nobody will ever buy that team with their own money! Coyotes are dead and the Jets are about to fly again!!!!!
woooooooooo!!!
GOJETSGO!
GOJETSGO!
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Sensfan101
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Posted - 04/16/2011 : 18:10:02
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I heard something funny on the radio today. Edmonton is hoping the Coyotes move to Winnepeg because it would bump them up to 29th best city to play in.
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Posted - 04/16/2011 : 18:25:58
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That's very funny Sensfan! (And I'm from Edmonton.)
I like Edmonton - it's a great city in many ways (not the weather), but if I was a young multimillionaire hockey player, it would be down the list of places where I would want to play, unless I had roots there.
However, I would show some class, and be happy to be in the NHL, regardless of where I was playing. Most NHLers operate that way, but a few do not, and of course, they get all the attention. |
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Alex116
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Posted - 04/16/2011 : 18:45:32
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Originally posted by Guest8149
However, I would show some class, and be happy to be in the NHL, regardless of where I was playing. Most NHLers operate that way, but a few do not, and of course, they get all the attention.
Basically it's come to the point where NTC's and NMC's and "limited" NTC's, etc rule the NHL as far as where guys go. In "the old days", guys didn't have those kinds of options. I'm okay with the older, unrestricted free agents being able to have a say, but i think guys become unrestricted far too early! |
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Posted - 04/16/2011 : 20:33:36
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Originally posted by Beans15
I guess Slozo, everyone is perfect and never has anyone ever made a mistake. No way that someone could say is was wrong for not getting involved in Winnipeg or Quebec and try to right that wrong by getting involved in other teams when they are in trouble. No one attacked Bettman for getting involved with Tampa when their 2 owners were at odd and the NHL ran that team until a single owner could be source?? Nothing wrong with that??
It's amazing how quickly people forget the reality of a situation. Winnipeg was on the ropes for 2-3 years before the move actually happened. So was Quebec. What was the reason they left Slozo??? Did it have something to do with zero prospective owners stepping forward??? I can name at least 5 different groups that stepped forwards in the Phoenix situation, can you research and find even a single prospective owner in either Winnipeg OR Quebec before the moves happened?? You don't even have to find one in each city, find one between the two groups.
Reality is right here, Slozo, you are somewhere completely different.
So you think Winnipeg, which always had decent fan support, but was in trouble financially for several years in a row, is compareable to a franchise in Phoenix? A franchise that NEVER made money, that NEVER had good fan support (they had to manufacture those playoff sell-outs last year, check it out yourself), getting kept in the league by the league itself after 15 years in the desert, losing money hand over fist?
That's not a mistake, Beans. It's a continued and constant practice of attempting to hold onto any american franchise, and easily letting go of any Canadian one.
Yeah, I get it that there is a lot more corporate money in Phoenix, no argument there . . . but at a certain point, those corporate investments need to be paid back by paying fans.
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Beans15
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Posted - 04/17/2011 : 08:15:15
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Slozo, you are making the assumption that the NHL should and must get involved in a team if they are not making money. Your point about losing money for 15 years misses the key point. They had owners. Someone was paying the bills. Winnipeg did not have that.
The point I have been trying to make for the past 3-4 years to this is that it's simply not up to the NHL to move a team. If I am a billionaire and I want to buy the team in Phoenix and waste every single dollar I have to keep that team there for the next 50 years, the NHL can't stop me. As long as I follow the rules and pay the bills, I stay where ever the heck I want.
Simply put, which seems to be very difficult for you to understand
Owner = Team (Phoenix prior to the bankruptcy)
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Posted - 04/19/2011 : 04:17:49
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Originally posted by Beans15
Slozo, you are making the assumption that the NHL should and must get involved in a team if they are not making money. Your point about losing money for 15 years misses the key point. They had owners. Someone was paying the bills. Winnipeg did not have that.
Owner = Team (Phoenix prior to the bankruptcy)
No Owner = No Team (Winnipeg)
I hope you repeat that to yourself a hundred times so it makes sense in your head, Beans . . . because that really is classic circular logic. The fact that you think you might be instructing ME on how to go over this logically and see the reality is . . well, I find it humorous.
No owner in Winnipeg, bit of financial trouble = move team immediately
(Team made money some years, had a decent following)
No owner in Phoenix, huge financial debt and trouble = have NHL take over ownership while in litigation over debt payment.
(Team never made money at any time, one of the poorest attendance records consistently)
Please tell me it's all about the fans again?
Oh - or is it to make money?
Oh, no, I got it . . . . it's a giant pie-in-the-face to Canada?!?
Yeah, that's the one. 
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Beans15
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Posted - 04/19/2011 : 10:45:15
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But Slozo, you were posting things talking about 15 years of losing money. That is where the NHL shouldn't have any bearing. If an owner is there and losing money, why move the team??
In Winnipeg, the team was losing money for a long time. They were given a reasonable amount of time to come up with a new owner (2-3 years if I recall) and they couldn't. Time to move the team???
So why is Phoenix(in your opinion) not afforded that same luxury??? Nope, not in Phoenix, a big pie in the face to America. They lost money for a long time (just like Winnipeg), they were given an opportunity to find new ownership(just like Winnipeg), and they have not been successful after 2-3 years(just like Winnipeg) and now they are making meaningful action to move the team (just like Winnipeg).
Perhaps now you can understand what logic is. Two situations which are fundamentally the same. The only difference in to the two situations is that Winnipeg was not owned by the NHL while they were seeking alternate ownership. Phoenix was.
What are wer basically arguing is that you believe Winnipeg was not in as dire or as long term financial trouble as Phoenix is(was). From what I have read, Winnipeg lost money for years before the move happened and they were supporting for a period of time by the NHL while they looked for new owners.
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ryan93
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Posted - 05/10/2011 : 18:57:37
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During the 1st intermission of tonights games, Darren Dreger & James Duffy were talking about some of the changes to conferences if the Atlanta Thrashers were to move to Winnipeg.
Detroit would move to the Eastern Conference. Winnipeg would be in the Northwest Division, bumping Colorado to the Pacific Division, and Dallas would take Detroits spot in the Central. |
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nuxfan
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Posted - 05/10/2011 : 20:44:36
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I think the NHL has been gagging to get DET back into the east, and I'm sure DET would love it too, if only for the changes to the travel schedule. But man, that really sucks for teams on the bubble in the east - what do teams like NYR/BUF/MTL/CAR, or even TOR feel about a perennial 100 point team coming into their conference and pretty much guaranteeing themselves a playoff spot for the forseeable future, likely at their expense?
Did they talk about how the east would re-arrange? Surely DET doesn't slot into the SE division in ATL's spot. I'm also a little surprised that CBJ would not have made it to the east instead, they are more "east" than DET is - about a 4 hour drive from PIT I think.
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Beans15
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Posted - 05/10/2011 : 21:03:04
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There is no really good way to make the split. Dallas would work better in the Pacific, but so would Vancouver. Nashville would work in the Central or the SE. CBJ and Detroit would work in a division with Pitt and Washington.
There are too many teams in a dense area in the belt between Detroit on the West, Boston on the East, Montreal on the North, and Washington in the south. There are 12 teams in that area alone.
Here is a link to a map of the NHL teams. There really isn't a simple split because of that pile in the North East.
http://www.sportmapworld.com/map/ice-hockey/north-america/nhl/ |
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Posted - 05/16/2011 : 23:14:50
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| Boringgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg... |
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MrBoogedy
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Posted - 05/31/2011 : 00:12:32
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Sounds like today is gonna be the day... Gary Bettman is going to be in Winnipeg to make an announcement later this morning. Police are ready for heavy celebrations according to the CBC. Geez... I wonder what all the hype could be about? |
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foolpittier
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Posted - 05/31/2011 : 14:20:47
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| i heard winnipeg was gonna suck this yr. |
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nuxfan
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Posted - 07/12/2011 : 12:25:22
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So TSN is reporting that WIN will join the central division next year, as I predicted they would - geographically it makes a ton more sense than the NW.
However, what they didn't say was what would be done to accomodate that move, and the reported lineup of the new central division (WIN, CHI, MIN, NSH, DAL, CBJ) raises the prospect of other moves: MIN is currently in the NW, and DAL is currently in the Pacific division. As well, DET and STL are both currently in the central division. If the new central division is as reported, there will be a pretty big shakeup in the Western conference next year.
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Posted - 07/12/2011 : 12:30:43
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| cough. WPG .. cough |
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nuxfan
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Posted - 07/12/2011 : 14:26:57
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according to another source, this would be the trigger on a major realignment - moving to 2 divisions per conference vs the current 3. The Western Conference would have a central division (WIN, MIN, CHI, STL, NSH, DAL, COL, one of CBJ or DET) and a pacific division (PHX, LA, ANA, SJ, VAN, EDM, CGY). I assume the east would also get a makeover, although they didn't specify how it would align.
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Posted - 07/12/2011 : 15:07:51
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| i can't see them doing major re-aligning until the phoenix situation is settled... whats the point of doing this twice in 2 or 3 years wait for the dust to settle |
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Alex116
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Posted - 07/12/2011 : 15:44:10
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Pretty sure that's why it's rumoured to be happening next year, as they figure Phoenix will be moving a year from now.
I too understood that the most likely scenario would be two div's per conference. I have no problem with that myself. |
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Winnipeg back in the picture....again? 
