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leafsfan_101
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PuckNuts
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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 Posted - 03/22/2007 : 16:09:26
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I think he needs to chase the puck, it does not bite back as hard...well it could bounce of his glass jaw, that might hurt...
I would rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy…
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
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bablaboushka
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2417 Posts |
Posted - 03/22/2007 : 17:11:24
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| Well, Beans, he was your buddy. Do you think he'll keep fighting? |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 03/22/2007 : 17:21:10
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| Haha...he may have been the toughest at age 15, but he sure is taking a beating at age 28. What goes around comes around, eh? |
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PuckNuts
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2414 Posts |
Posted - 03/22/2007 : 18:30:38
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I think he wants to be a hockey analyst, bumps on the head seem to be the quickest way to get there...
I would rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy…
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 03/23/2007 : 06:59:12
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He has definately had a tough year. He will never stop fighting. If he is playing, he will fight. That's his game. He will go with anyone at any time. He's not in the same league as Laraque or Boogard but he will go anyway. He's been like that for ever. Not sure if he will be back or not. He is a UFA and some teams might be sacred of the uncertainty of his future.
And Mik, he has had a couple of bad fights this year. Every fighter does. The shot he took would have put anyone down. But check this out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvE3R0YT7tk
Some of is was dirty but most of it is awesome! |
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1 Crosby fan
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1454 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2007 : 12:41:36
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| wow poor guy broke his cheek bone and gets knocked out well hope he don't stop fighting paybacks a B!tch |
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manninm
PickupHockey Pro
USA
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Posted - 03/23/2007 : 12:49:23
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| tough breaks for the guy....he'll be back tho...one of the only players on the flyers i have respect for |
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Saku Steen
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 03/23/2007 : 14:15:49
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| Todd really got punched hard in both. At least he still fights. I doubt he will back down from fighting. |
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willus3
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 03/23/2007 : 15:04:53
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Hey C'mon Willus, the guy just got knocked out, his head is not working right.
And I think you missed the point entirely. He is saying that if they want to do something about fighting, they should look at ways to lessen the impact of the blows. His main point was that the NHL should not take fighting out of the game.
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willus3
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 03/23/2007 : 15:35:55
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I understand he was just coming up with a solution for them. I just think it's a ridiculous solution. As much as fighting is a part of hockey it isn't a legal part of hockey. If you fight you are penalized. If they said to the enforcers , "hey you guys wear gloves so you don't hurt yourselves when you choose to pummel one another" it would be just a little hypocritical.
The only thing that would solve this is a league wide change in attitudes, of everyone, from GM's to players. The idea that there needs to be an enforcer on your team needs to stop being perpetuated. Look at the size of the monsters they have for enforcers. Guys that size with that much strength in a bare fisted fight are going to do serious damage. There was a time when you had to take care of yourself and if you couldn't you didn't play. So you had regular guys fighting each other, usually with far less damage.
But I know this will never change now. It's accepted now to waste a roster position on an enforcer who otherwise has no business being in the league.
Then I also look at it and say, let them beat the snot out of each other. They're just enforcers who rarely contribute to a good play. Who cares if they break their faces and heads. |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
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Posted - 03/23/2007 : 17:05:24
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Originally posted by PuckNuts
I think he wants to be a hockey analyst, bumps on the head seem to be the quickest way to get there...
Either that or he wants to be in the Toronto media
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 03/24/2007 : 07:07:21
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Bob Probert 6'3" 225 lbs
Dave Semenko 6'3" 215 lbs
Dave Brown 6'5" 205 lbs
Todd Fedoruk 6'2" 235 lbs
Georges Laraque 6'3" 240 lbs
Donald Brashear 6'2" 225 lbs
I think you are right that the players are bigger and stronger. The dedication to physical training is much higher now than in the 80's and before. But even read what Fedoruk said, he (and many others) actually train to fight in the off season. That something that didn't happen before. These guys are training on how to hurt people better.
I agree that there needs to be a change in attitude. Why is it that when players never wore helmets, you didn't see this kind of thing happen?? Maybe I am being naive, but I don't remember or hear much about people getting taken off on stretchers from hits or fights in the old days. Players are a lot more reckless and fearless today. And there is a huge lack of respect between players.
But even watching a guy like Wendel Clark or Dave Semen or Dave Robert. They were punching guys with everything they had and you didn't see this kind of thing either. Maybe players are just big wimps these days.
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