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nuxfan
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 Posted - 08/01/2011 : 09:26:41
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3rd - Columbus - Carter is the missing piece for Nash
CBJ winning the central division, over DET or CHI? Thats a stretch - I think CBJ is missing a few more pieces yet. |
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Beans15
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Posted - 08/01/2011 : 13:44:55
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I am really surprised about how many people are predicting such great things out of CBJ. This is a team who were 16 pts out of the playoffs last season and only COL and EDM were worse in the West. The finished 24th in the entire NHL in the standings, were 24th in goals for, 26th in goals against, 29th on the PP, and 22nd in PK. How does adding Weisnewski, Prospal, and Carter all of a sudden make this team good enough to make the playoffs??
This is the easy bet this season and it appears there will be multiple takers so I will call it out.
Columbus will not make the playoffs this season. Name your terms and I will take just about any bet that says that Columbus will make the playoffs. |
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Guest4312
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Posted - 08/03/2011 : 15:35:19
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| i don't think its the new players that will get columbus into the playoffs.... steve mason will have to return to calder form in order for them to make it. |
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Posted - 08/04/2011 : 05:27:12
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Yeah, crazy as it sounds, I agree with Beans. Columbus is not making it.
I mean, anomolies do happen sometimes, against all expectation (Colorado making the playoffs a couple of years ago, when everyone were predicting them to be a bottom three team). But, they are extremely rare.
As stated, Mason would have to have a huge season in goal, the defence would have to have some career years, and all of the newly aquired talent would have to play at the same level as before, when they were all on winning record playoff teams.
I really, really don't see that happening.
In fact, for my keeper pool, I am trying to unload Carter (while his value is high). I predict a so-so season from him.
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Guest0220
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Posted - 08/12/2011 : 13:02:05
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Nash has never had a star caliber player to play with, and they made the playoffs in 08-09 without the new additions, this team is very young, and will surprise a lot. Detroit hasnt gotten any better this offseason, chicago has gotten, older and slower, and nashville is slowly selling everyone away. Columbus will be first in the central. a line of carter-brassard-nash or umberger-carter-nash. Sounds like one tough line to play against. Didn't umberger and carter play together in philly?
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 08/12/2011 : 13:08:58
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chicago has gotten, older and slower,----DEEE
Really?  Really? Well, i suppos EVERY team really has gotten older considering EVERY player is a year older and no team has picked up enough youngsters to make up for that. That's about the only argument you have for that statement! Kane, Toews, Keith, Seabrook, Sharp, Crawford, etc, etc are all still very young and just happen to form the core of a very good Chicago team! Look for them to compete for top spot in their division this season.
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Beans15
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Posted - 08/12/2011 : 13:10:13
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As I said, name your terms. I will take just about any bet where I take CBJ to not make the playoffs.
Detroit did not get any better, but they also did not get any worse. They won the division last year, right??? So CBJ is playing catch up and has not come even close to catching up.
Chicago got older and slower?? Interesting opinion. Most opinions about Chicago include best teams to be knocked out in the first round and they improved. But you might be the only one who is correct.
Who has Nashville sold away??
I will agree with you that CBJ will have one tough line to play against. Unfortunately, to be a winning hockey team you need 4 lines, a defense, and a goalie. CBJ is missing 3 forward lines, a defense, and a goalie.
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Guest4312
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Posted - 08/12/2011 : 13:46:09
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Chicago got older and slower?? Interesting opinion. Most opinions about Chicago include best teams to be knocked out in the first round and they improved.
1) interesting opinon... more like hilarious. chicago has without a doubt in my mind one of the top 3 strongest cores in the nhl kane, toews, kieth, seabrook, sharp, emerging crawford/ frolik, and added depth/ grit players. these guys haven't even hit their prime yet!!! getting slower lol rick nash and jeff carter are older than basically all of those guys.
2)for beans: only team knocked out in the first round that might put up a fight with chicago would be montreal, however i do agree chi is better. both those teams IMO were too good to be early playoff exits but did make for two great series with the canucks and bruins early on. (weird how both stanley cup finalists were so close to being 1st round exits)
3) anahiem vs. nashville round 1... anahiem 1 great line (ryan/perry/getzlaf) ... a much better combination than carter/nash/umberger or brassard. ryan/perry/getzlaf meet a shutdown defense pairing (sutter/ weber) and the rest is history. 1 good line doesn't mean jack. |
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Guest0220
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Posted - 08/12/2011 : 20:00:45
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Columbus has the gritty players (Boll, Dorsett) and veterans (Prospal, Vermette, and Wiz) to succeed, and Mason has more experience than goalies like Crawford, who was a rookie at 25. Crawford will slump worse than Mason.
On chicago getting older I understand aquiring veterans is important for leadership. But when you add O'donnel, Mayers and Brunnette all of whom are over 36, thats getting older. These guys' ages will be catching up to them this year, especially later in the season.
Nashville sold off Franson, and Ward (I dont know why anyone would let him go after his perfomance in the playoffs) , and Weber is on the way. No one wants to play their and owners are penny pinchers. |
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Guest0220
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Posted - 08/12/2011 : 20:01:59
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Columbus has the gritty players (Boll, Dorsett) and veterans (Prospal, Vermette, and Wiz) to succeed, and Mason has more experience than goalies like Crawford, who was a rookie at 25. Crawford will slump worse than Mason.
On chicago getting older I understand aquiring veterans is important for leadership. But when you add O'donnel, Mayers and Brunnette all of whom are over 36, thats getting older. These guys' ages will be catching up to them this year, especially later in the season.
Nashville sold off Franson, and Ward (I dont know why anyone would let him go after his perfomance in the playoffs) , and Weber is on the way. No one wants to play their and owners are penny pinchers.
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Western Conference Predictions 
