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Guest5263
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 Posted - 10/26/2011 : 21:41:58
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Poll Question:
Out of these skaters who will lead the nhl in points?
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Posted - 10/27/2011 : 05:28:00
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I'm really starting to think it's gonna be Daniel, but who knows how Crosby comes back, and when? If Daniel gets injured for a week, could be Henrik.
I honestly don't see Stamkos or Perry doing it, and would actually bet on Getzlaf as having an outside shot if the stars align.
Ovechkin seems like the wildcard at this point . . . he hasn't looked like the same superstar player we knew him as, and although he looks like an 80-90 point player right now . . . we all know he has the juice to be able to win it.
But I voted Daniel in the end . . . the Sedins are just straight-up point machines right now, and Daniel seems to be getting a point more than his brother at least once a week.
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Guest9701
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Posted - 10/27/2011 : 09:04:02
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| Out of that list, Corey Perry will get the most points. |
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Alex116
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Posted - 10/27/2011 : 09:19:44
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Originally posted by slozo
But I voted Daniel in the end . . . the Sedins are just straight-up point machines right now, and Daniel seems to be getting a point more than his brother at least once a week.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
Which Canucks game did you watch last night??? Lol. All kidding aside, i agree with you that it could very well be a Sedin. I also said to many people at the beginning of the year that i think Getzlaf will outscore Perry. I don't see Perry winning the Art Ross. |
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nuxfan
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Posted - 10/27/2011 : 10:00:11
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| I agree, I think it will be a Sedin. Don't know which one though. |
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Guest9701
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Posted - 10/27/2011 : 10:12:45
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Originally posted by Alex116
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Originally posted by slozo
But I voted Daniel in the end . . . the Sedins are just straight-up point machines right now, and Daniel seems to be getting a point more than his brother at least once a week.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
Which Canucks game did you watch last night??? Lol. All kidding aside, i agree with you that it could very well be a Sedin. I also said to many people at the beginning of the year that i think Getzlaf will outscore Perry. I don't see Perry winning the Art Ross.
I didn't say Perry would win the Art Ross, I said out of the list of players mentioned above, Corey Perry would get the most points. Getzlaf is the glue to the whole Perry-Getzlaf-Ryan line. If he can stay healthy, he can content for the Art Ross. And nothing against the Sedins, but I just don't think Vancouver will have a good year after they choked in last year's final. |
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Alex116
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Posted - 10/27/2011 : 10:35:31
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Originally posted by Guest9701
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Originally posted by Alex116
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Originally posted by slozo
But I voted Daniel in the end . . . the Sedins are just straight-up point machines right now, and Daniel seems to be getting a point more than his brother at least once a week.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
Which Canucks game did you watch last night??? Lol. All kidding aside, i agree with you that it could very well be a Sedin. I also said to many people at the beginning of the year that i think Getzlaf will outscore Perry. I don't see Perry winning the Art Ross.
I didn't say Perry would win the Art Ross, I said out of the list of players mentioned above, Corey Perry would get the most points. Getzlaf is the glue to the whole Perry-Getzlaf-Ryan line. If he can stay healthy, he can content for the Art Ross. And nothing against the Sedins, but I just don't think Vancouver will have a good year after they choked in last year's final.
9701.....You don't think Vancouver will have a good year after choking the final last year? Fair enough, but that doesn't necessarily mean one of the Sedin's won't top that list of point getters! It's not always that the Art Ross winner comes from one of the top two or three teams!
BTW, the question in the poll wasn't exactly perfect in that it says "Out of these skaters who will lead the NHL in points?". It does say "lead the NHL in points" which would be the Art Ross winner. So, your answer of "out of those players, Perry will get the most points" led me to believe you were answering the question, not just making a statement as you were. I guess i mistook what you meant. |
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nuxfan
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Posted - 10/27/2011 : 11:20:44
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Originally posted by Guest9701
I didn't say Perry would win the Art Ross, I said out of the list of players mentioned above, Corey Perry would get the most points. Getzlaf is the glue to the whole Perry-Getzlaf-Ryan line. If he can stay healthy, he can content for the Art Ross. And nothing against the Sedins, but I just don't think Vancouver will have a good year after they choked in last year's final.
How Vancouver ends up in the standings and how the Sedin's do are not necessarily closely related. I also don't think Vancouver will get as many points as last year, or have as many GF. But I do think the Sedin's will still be responsible for a great many of what they do get, and they are point machines - top line minutes, top PP minutes on a highly offensive team are fairly safe bets for lots of points. |
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Guest9701
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Posted - 10/27/2011 : 12:11:54
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Fellas, fellas, settle down now! First off, I never said or implied the Art Ross winner will come from the top 2 or 3 teams. Didn't Corey Perry win the Art Ross and the Rocket last year and if I remember correctly, the Ducks finished 4th or 5th in the West last season. So the Art Ross winner doesn't have to come from the top 2 or 3 three teams as you stated.
And I do agree with the fact that the twins will lead their team in scoring, PP time and they'll get every opportunity to score. It's pretty obvious. They're Vancouver's top line and are paid to score (even though they disappeared in last year's final). My point is; with a healthy top line of Perry-Getzlaf-Ryan VS a line of the twins and Burrows or whoever their linemate may be, IMO, Perry will accumulate the most points of the list mentioned above. |
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Guest9701
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Posted - 10/27/2011 : 12:24:56
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| My bad, Perry won the hart and rocket not the art ross. I still think he'll get more pts than either of the sedan twins. |
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foolpittier
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Posted - 10/27/2011 : 12:26:36
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Alex116
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Posted - 10/27/2011 : 15:06:05
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Originally posted by Guest9701
Fellas, fellas, settle down now! First off, I never said or implied the Art Ross winner will come from the top 2 or 3 teams. Didn't Corey Perry win the Art Ross and the Rocket last year and if I remember correctly, the Ducks finished 4th or 5th in the West last season. So the Art Ross winner doesn't have to come from the top 2 or 3 three teams as you stated.
And I do agree with the fact that the twins will lead their team in scoring, PP time and they'll get every opportunity to score. It's pretty obvious. They're Vancouver's top line and are paid to score (even though they disappeared in last year's final). My point is; with a healthy top line of Perry-Getzlaf-Ryan VS a line of the twins and Burrows or whoever their linemate may be, IMO, Perry will accumulate the most points of the list mentioned above.
WTF? "....settle down now!"??? Did either of our responses come of as being excited, angry, etc???  |
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nuxfan
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Posted - 10/27/2011 : 17:48:45
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Originally posted by Guest9701
My bad, Perry won the hart and rocket not the art ross. I still think he'll get more pts than either of the sedan twins.
Huh. I'd be pretty surprised if Perry finished above both Sedin's in overall points this season. |
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Guest9701
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Posted - 10/27/2011 : 19:02:50
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| I'm not too surprised with comments from the canuck faithful but try to be a little more objective. Go hank and dank! |
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nuxfan
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Posted - 10/27/2011 : 19:09:42
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Originally posted by Guest9701
I'm not too surprised with comments from the canuck faithful but try to be a little more objective. Go hank and dank!
who is not being objective? Hank and Daniel have won the last 2 scoring titles, Corey Perry has never cracked 100 points in his NHL career, although he came close last year with a ferocious finish to the season. Both are playing with mostly the same teams as last year, and certainly the same lines, so should get the same number of opportunities. I don't doubt Perry will do well, and he may even beat one Sedin in scoring (as he did last year) but I don't think he will beat both Sedin's in scoring this season, and I don't think its unreasonably biased to think so. |
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Open_Ice
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Posted - 10/27/2011 : 20:08:08
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| Couldn't decide who to pick between Perry, Stamkos, and Ovechkin but ended up choosing Perry. I really like his determination and he seems to win every battle near the net. Any of them could certainly win though. |
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Alex116
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Posted - 10/27/2011 : 22:20:45
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Originally posted by Guest9701
I'm not too surprised with comments from the canuck faithful but try to be a little more objective. Go hank and dank!
Dude, you make little sense. First you say we need to "settle down", not we're not being objective? I just don't get it. How is disagreeing with you, not being objective? |
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Posted - 10/28/2011 : 06:01:48
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Guest 9701:
You are the one not being objective.
I doubt it if Perry can get more points than both Sedins if they both play more than 75 games. Ever.
Perry has had one awesome year, last year. And in his one awesome year, he scored 50 goals (a jump of 28 goals from his previous best) and he got 48 assists (one below his career high) to get 98 points - a 22 point jump from his career high.
Yes, it's true that he has gotten better each year in terms of points . . . but to expect him to score around 50 goals again while upping his assists is . . . extremely hopefully. And at the same time, you'd have to hope that BOTH Sedins have a big dip in points for some reason.
Not happening. If Perry couldn't beat both Sedins last year in points, it's certainly not going to happen this year.
BTW, I am a Leafs fan if you hadn't noticed. 
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Guest9701
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Posted - 10/28/2011 : 08:06:34
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Those are true solid stats. You are absolutely right, he has gotten better each year in terms of points so why not expect him to get better? He is at the prime of his carreer and I think he has a better offensive supporting cast than the twins; Getzlaf, Ryan, Selanne, Visnovsky and they can help him get some points. I know Getzlaf only played 60+ games last season and he can score as well. So my point is with a healthy line up, Corey Perry is my pick.
Regardless of what happened to the Canucks in last year's playoffs, I don't doubt the twins' ability to score. They both did great last season. I just think Corey Perry will do better. I hope that makes even a little bit of sense to some people. (He did win the Hart last year right?)
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 10/28/2011 : 09:19:54
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Originally posted by Guest9701
Those are true solid stats. You are absolutely right, he has gotten better each year in terms of points so why not expect him to get better? He is at the prime of his carreer and I think he has a better offensive supporting cast than the twins; Getzlaf, Ryan, Selanne, Visnovsky and they can help him get some points. I know Getzlaf only played 60+ games last season and he can score as well. So my point is with a healthy line up, Corey Perry is my pick.
Regardless of what happened to the Canucks in last year's playoffs, I don't doubt the twins' ability to score. They both did great last season. I just think Corey Perry will do better. I hope that makes even a little bit of sense to some people. (He did win the Hart last year right?)
Thank you for a much more balanced and sensible response! It is your opinion, and i respect that. I can even agree with it to some extent and see where having Getzlaf for a full season, one could argue can only help. However, Perry didn't experience any dip in points whatsoever with Getzlaf out and in fact may have even increased his ppg (can't recall the exact numbers but i believe it was close). I just don't see him/them doing much better than the pace they had last year. I could be wrong of course, they could both continue to excel to unforeseen point totals! With Perry being a sniper though, i find it hard to believe, as Slozo mentioned, that he could significantly improve his goal total to make a big difference from the 50 he had last year. On top of that, he'd not known as a playmaker type and would have to top his career best in assists to even have a shot, as long as the Sedin's don't have a huge drop off?
Either way, i don't think the Sedin's or Perry will blow the other(s) away points wise, but i do see the twins finishing above him in the points race. Of course, i've been wrong before.  |
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