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bonfire420
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Canada
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 Posted - 04/10/2007 : 15:09:59
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Poll Question:
Who was the most underrated forward of the 06/07 regular season? By underrated I mean someone who didn't receive as much credit as he deserved...
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bonfire420
Rookie
Canada
107 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2007 : 15:11:59
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| I went with St. Louis... this guy had an amazing year and contributed greatly to Lecavalier finishing first in goals scored. Yet anytime you hear people talking about Tampa it's all about Vinny. |
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-oil-country-
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
988 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2007 : 15:13:14
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| I say Savard he is an amazing playmaker i say 3rd best in the whole league and he isn't even playing on that great of a team, I bet Atlanta misses him half the reason why Kovalchuk got 98 points last season was because of Savard. |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2007 : 15:17:19
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| Definitely Savard...he's been amazing all season and I hardly ever hear about him. |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
8286 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2007 : 15:24:22
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Mike Cammalleri 81 games 34 G 46 A 80 Points. 16 on the PP. +5 rating on the 3rd worst team in the league, 54% in the F/O circle and all that in 18 minutes/game.
NO ONE talks about him. He is my pick for the most under-rated.
I say that Savard is the most under-rated player that everyone talks about, yet everyone says no one talks about. He is no secret anymore. Cammalleri still is. Kopitar, Frolov, and Visnovsky get all the attention in LA and Cammalleri has better numbers and plays less minutes than all of them. |
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bonfire420
Rookie
Canada
107 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2007 : 15:26:19
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Originally posted by Beans15
Mike Cammalleri 81 games 34 G 46 A 80 Points. 16 on the PP. +5 rating on the 3rd worst team in the league, 54% in the F/O circle and all that in 18 minutes/game.
NO ONE talks about him. He is my pick for the most under-rated.
you should vote for him... |
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bablaboushka
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2417 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2007 : 15:28:51
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I think the fact that A LOT OF PEOPLE say that Savard is underrated, makes him quite appreciated. Haha wow Beans, I hadn't seen your post before I posted mine, but I'm glad we agree on this!
I chose Jokinen. Here are his last six seasons:
16 pts > 29 pts > 65 pts > 58 pts > 89 pts > 91 pts
This guy has improved tremendously in his time with Florida (where he gets little to no recognition at all). Last year he was 16th in scoring and this year he finished 14th, all the while playing on a crappy team. He scored 6G 2A in 8 games for the Finns at the Olympics. Imagine what this guy could do on a decent team. I think it's time that Jokinen be considered one of the elite players in the NHL. |
Edited by - bablaboushka on 04/10/2007 15:29:42 |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2007 : 15:30:33
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Originally posted by bablaboushka
I think the fact that A LOT OF PEOPLE say that Savard is underrated, makes him quite appreciated.
Appreciated in the fanbase, yes, but ignored by the media. I think that's what bonfire was referring to. |
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leafsfan_101
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1530 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2007 : 15:32:11
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Camellari got my vote. Beans made quite the argument for him, and it was very convincing. So that one Cammelari vote was made by yours truly .
When life gives you lemons throw them at the Ottawa Senators and their fans and hope it gets them in the eyes ;) |
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bablaboushka
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2417 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2007 : 15:32:15
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Oh no, the media talks about him quite often as the "most underrated player in the NHL".
He's well-known now after his back-to-back great seasons. |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2007 : 15:41:05
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Whenever I watch Boston games I don't hear too much about him, but maybe I'm just not watching when they mention this. But the fact that everyone thinks he's underrated isn't for nothing, he must really be underrated then. He's talked about often, but only to say that he's underrated, not to talk about his accomplishments. If you aren't talking about his accomplishments, he's not getting credit. They're just saying he DESERVES credit, which is different from GETTING it.
But whatever, I can certainly understand where you're coming from with Cammalleri. I didn't think too much about Olli Jokinen...maybe that's part of the proof that he's underrated! |
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Leafs Rock Planet
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
902 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2007 : 15:53:51
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Savard is such a great player with no hype surrounding him. when more people start recognizing his talent he will not play as great as he has been playing.
Always next year!! |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
8286 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2007 : 17:28:54
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Bad Team=No Press=Underrated Players
Hence the names of Cammalleri, Jokinen, and *cough* Savard.
Jokinen was my second choice. He has gotten his props in the past, but not this year. Jokinen should be an Oiler by July 15th.
Damn it, I was dreaming again. |
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leafsfan1
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 04/10/2007 : 17:54:50
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i said savard st.louis wasnt underrated everybody is talking about him
Sens Suck
Habs Suck
Leafs Rule
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bonfire420
Rookie
Canada
107 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2007 : 17:59:15
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Originally posted by leafsfan1
i said savard st.louis wasnt underrated everybody is talking about him
It might be different in the west because I don't usually hear him mentioned nearly as much as lecavalier... for two players who're so close in skill I think one gets a lot more mention than the other. |
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jbraiter
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 04/10/2007 : 18:16:30
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| i said savard and cammalari |
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Guest4943
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Posted - 04/10/2007 : 20:42:07
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| I vote Camellari because of beans and his argument. Also Savard isn't really underated now there is like 50 posts of how underated he is. |
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SlowShot
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
264 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2007 : 20:42:51
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That was me
Go Stars |
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Canucks Man
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1547 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2007 : 20:47:47
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quote:
Originally posted by Beans15
Mike Cammalleri 81 games 34 G 46 A 80 Points. 16 on the PP. +5 rating on the 3rd worst team in the league, 54% in the F/O circle and all that in 18 minutes/game. Kopitar, Frolov, and Visnovsky get all the attention in LA and Cammalleri has better numbers and plays less minutes than all of them.
I was going to say somthing close to that so i figured instead of retyping it all Id quote the wise Beans
CANUCKS RULE!!!
Get The Towels Out Guys PLAYOFFS!!!
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Guest4009
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Posted - 04/10/2007 : 21:41:36
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| I say Savard. The one thing I keep hearing in hockey circles is that he is a jerk. Now, who really knows unless you are around the guy, but the word amongst players is that he is impossible to get along with. This might explain why the press treats him like a fourth liner. |
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Guest5605
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Posted - 04/10/2007 : 22:25:30
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| what about Ales Hemsky? |
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Guest4024
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Posted - 04/11/2007 : 00:05:02
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| SEDIN because he managed to get 36 goals. Now that might not seem so great compared to the other big guns but he is ranked 146th in ice time. His ice time average is 18:03 per game while Lecavalier's is 22:36. To get 36 goals with that ice time is amazing. I dont care waht anyone thinks thats pretty underrated. |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
8286 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 06:29:24
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Selanne with 48 goals, Vanek with 43, Cheechoo with 37, and Guerin with 36 all had a lower T.O.I than Sedin. That doesn't tell me much.
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BigShow
Rookie
177 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 07:02:52
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Pavol Demitra. He didn't have the season i thought he would, but still respectable.
He's the most underrated forward of the past several years. He has finished in the top ten in scoring twice. Plays in all situations for his team, doesn't take many penalties and plays solid positional defense. |
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juice32
Rookie
Canada
100 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 08:53:28
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I'm Pickin Jokinen.........92 pts with a team like Florida!!!!!
He has also stedially increased his point production each season. Savard deserves mention as well. This guy reminds me of Adam Oates |
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Leafs Rock Planet
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
902 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2007 : 14:02:12
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It also could be Maxim Afinogenov though more people are starting to recognize his talent
Always next year!! |
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Saku Steen
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1102 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2007 : 14:07:10
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Originally posted by Leafs Rock Planet
It also could be Maxim Afinogenov though more people are starting to recognize his talent
Always next year!!
I think everyone knows hes great
But I went with Savard, boy can he pass!
I've figured it out, the guys gotta play like girls! |
Edited by - Saku Steen on 04/14/2007 14:08:12 |
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semin-rules
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1915 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2007 : 14:34:48
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quote:
Originally posted by juice32
I'm Pickin Jokinen.........92 pts with a team like Florida!!!!!
I agree, if you play on a team like Florida, and you get 92 pts. you gotta be good.
~~~~~COME ON STARS, LETS BRING IT HOME~~~~~ |
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Buddyno2000
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
606 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2007 : 14:40:40
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Sean Avery, when he decides to play and stop the craziness he can be really good.
''The future ain't what it used to be''. Yogi Berra. |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 04/26/2007 : 19:48:00
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| Thomas Holmstrom, he plays on the top line he hits a lot he works hard and he is one of the best in front of the net. But in Detroit it's all Lidstrom, Datsyuk and Zetterberg but Holmstrom is a 30 goal scorer and an average about 50-60 points a year that's not to bad. |
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Saku Steen
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1102 Posts |
Posted - 04/27/2007 : 03:40:36
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Originally posted by PainTrain
Thomas Holmstrom, he plays on the top line he hits a lot he works hard and he is one of the best in front of the net. But in Detroit it's all Lidstrom, Datsyuk and Zetterberg but Holmstrom is a 30 goal scorer and an average about 50-60 points a year that's not to bad.
He is quite the player, I agree. Spends his life in front of the net
I've figured it out, the guys gotta play like girls! |
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fly4apuckguy
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
834 Posts |
Posted - 04/27/2007 : 21:57:29
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I said Marc Savard. He is the most underrated player in the NHL, but I have also heard from inside sources that he is a first class a-hole. But that's just talk.
Most OVERrated player ever? Brendan Morrison. I have never seen him do anything useful, yet he is tstill considered a "star" of the NHL.
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. - Gretz |
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Guest9666
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Posted - 05/01/2007 : 08:05:03
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| andy mcdonald |
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Guest9666
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Posted - 05/01/2007 : 08:07:13
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| or nylander |
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willus3
Moderator
Canada
1948 Posts |
Posted - 05/01/2007 : 09:22:44
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quote:
Originally posted by fly4apuckguy
I said Marc Savard. He is the most underrated player in the NHL, but I have also heard from inside sources that he is a first class a-hole. But that's just talk.
Most OVERrated player ever? Brendan Morrison. I have never seen him do anything useful, yet he is tstill considered a "star" of the NHL.
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. - Gretz
This could very well be true. In the article I posted in the "what the players think" thread he was picked as one of the most disliked by other players. I was surprised at first but it's sounding more and more like there is something to it.
"Go chase headlights!" |
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BigShow
Rookie
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Posted - 05/01/2007 : 09:35:03
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When Savard played in Calgary i got to play poker with him one night. Complete d***. Sure loved to show off the cash.
I've played against a lot of the Flames over the years. Fleury and Housley were really bad too. McCarthy is very likable, the nicest guy was several years ago playing at a table with Hnat Domenichelli. Too bad he was chasing Brian Sutter's daughter... got himself buried |
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bonfire420
Rookie
Canada
107 Posts |
Posted - 05/01/2007 : 09:41:39
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Originally posted by BigShow
When Savard played in Calgary i got to play poker with him one night. Complete d***. Sure loved to show off the cash.
I've played against a lot of the Flames over the years. Fleury and Housley were really bad too. McCarthy is very likable, the nicest guy was several years ago playing at a table with Hnat Domenichelli. Too bad he was chasing Brian Sutter's daughter... got himself buried
I'm sure McCarthy was very likable indeed... he lost all his money gambling!!! I'd like to play him too if I was at a poker table.  . Do they all just go to the stampede casino or do you know them personally? |
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