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jbraiter
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Posted - 04/13/2007 :  04:51:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Everytime in my hockey pool when I make a trade date, and I make trades the whole thing screws up, and goes back to the originale roster.

Can I get some help?

bablaboushka
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Canada
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Posted - 04/13/2007 :  08:16:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well I'd love to try to help but I'm still not sure what your problem is. Could you be a little more specific than "everything screws up"?
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admin
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Posted - 04/13/2007 :  09:55:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
jbraiter, please send us an email and explain exactly what is happening. include your POOL NAME and ADMIN PASSWORD.

Use the contact us form at:
http://www.pickuphockey.com/contact.asp

Thanks!
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jbraiter
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577 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2007 :  17:35:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hey guys i am sorry about this topic, nothing wrong with the trades it was just me

Thanks for all the help admin!

Jbraiter
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leafsfan_101
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Canada
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Posted - 04/13/2007 :  17:40:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was just wondering what the diffrence between split and replacement trades were. Could someone clear it up for me? Thanks in advance.

When life gives you lemons throw them at the Ottawa Senators and their fans and hope it gets them in the eyes ;)
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bablaboushka
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Canada
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Posted - 04/13/2007 :  21:03:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Haha nice try bud but here's what the difference is:

A split trade is when you trade two players but the poolies keep the points that each player earned for them while they were on their team. Basically you trade the players, but not the points.
Ex: Forsberg from Team A is traded for Thornton on Team B. Team A keeps whatever points Forsberg got up until the trade date, and Team B keeps whatever points Thornton got until the trade date. After the trade date, Team A gets Thornton's point until the end of the season and Team B gets Forsberg's points until the end of the season.

A replacement trade is where the players, along with their points are traded.
Going along the same Ex: Team A and B swap players. Forsberg has 30 points at the trade date and Thornton has 50. In a split trade, Team A keeps the 30 points and gets Thornton while Team B keeps the 50 points and gets Forsberg. Well with a replacement trade, Team A gets Thornton + his 50 points and Team B gets Forsberg and his 30 points.

In a nutshell, a split trade is where the players are traded without their points and a replacement trade is where players AND points are traded.

Make sense?
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admin
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Posted - 04/13/2007 :  23:02:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No problem Josh, glad I could help.

Now here is everything anyone could ever want to know about trades...

Trades: The Pool Administrator conducts all the trades. If you are not a pool administrator you CANNOT conduct trades. By default the trades are turned off. The administrator must turn them on to conduct official trades via the Trades System. Go to the "edit pool details" page to turn the trades on.

Trade Types: A Replacement Trade means that you trade away ALL the points of the first player and pick up ALL the points of the second player. A Split Trade means that you keep the points of the traded player up to the trade date and start collecting points of the acquired player after the trade date.

Trade Dates: Once you have established whether you will have trades and what type of trade you will do, you must then select the dates at which you would like to make your trades. You can do this in the "Trades" section of the pool (see the menu on the left) there are 2 tabs; "Trade Dates" and "Conduct Trades". Choose Trade Dates. You can have several trade dates. The amount of dates you add is optional; you can have only 1 or you can input unlimited trade dates. The system will use these dates when processing the trades. When you add the dates is up to you because the trade dates are retroactive. If you don't have time to input all the trades before the trade date, don't worry. Once you input the trades the system will calculate the new points from the trade date selected.

Conducting a Trade: When your trade dates are set up you will then need to conduct the trades. You can conduct them by going to the "Trades" page which is found just below the "Edit Pool" button in the left menu. Select the "Conduct Trades" tab at the top. Please select the trade date from the drop down list and then the team. Below that click on "add trade" and 2 input boxes will appear. In the left box choose the player you want to trade away and in the right box choose the player you want to acquire for that team and click "save". That's it! Repeat for each team as needed.

Viewing a trade: After a trade is conducted the traded player remains visible in the pool teams lineup however they are grayed out. This is so others can see that player's contribution to the total points of that team. Of course, they will not continue acquiring points. The newly acquired player's points may at first be zero. The system refreshes at 12:30am PST and the points will be calculated at that point.

Things to Remember about Trades:
1) To be clear, the trade date is essentially a "trade deadline". Points take effect the next day.
2) If your pool is set to be a DRAFT style of pool then a pool team can only acquire a player in a trade if the player is not owned by another pool team. If that player is owned by another pool team, then they must be dropped from his current team first and then acquired by the new team. If you try to select a player already drafted the system will alert you. A STRAIGHT style of pool does not have this restriction.
3) The newly acquired player's points may zero out until the system refreshes at 1:00am PST.
4) You may have assigned different point values for forwards, defense, goalies so be sure to acquire players from the same position if that is the case. By default if a player is selected to be an Enforcer then the acquired player will be an enforcer too. You can disable the enforcer from the "Edit Pool Teams" section of the "Edit Pool" page.

Players Swapping: Swapping is not considered to be a trade. We realize that sometimes NHL players are added to your pool teams accidentally or a team may select an injured player and everyone allows him to swap him out etc. So an administrator can swap players at will without affecting trades by simply going to the "Edit Pool"/"Edit Pool Teams" page and editing the players on the pool team. It would be just as if he was setting the pool up originally. Just go into any team and swap the players needed. If you do it this way you will swap all of that player's points for the new player's points. You can always swap back if you like. Swapping is not considered a trade.
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leafsfan_101
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Canada
1530 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2007 :  07:48:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks alot guys. it helped alot.

When life gives you lemons throw them at the Ottawa Senators and their fans and hope it gets them in the eyes ;)
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