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Guest2187
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 Posted - 04/18/2012 : 09:46:13
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I know he made slight contact with girouxs head but I find the situation to be unavoidable. It's a 3 on 1 for philly and Neal is backchecking to get back into the play. Giroux gets the puck and delay's. Obviously Neal will be at full speed and try to make the check if Giroux is standing there with the puck. I just find it hard to call it an intent to injure or a charge when your coming back for different reasons then the opportunity arrises to hit Giroux. Also I think if Giroux didn't have that stumble, there probably wouldn't have been a penalty at all.
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CrockOShight
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Posted - 04/19/2012 : 09:55:16
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Hi Guest2187,
I'm sorry. But you are completely out of your mind. You are exactly, and completely 100% wrong in your assessment of the play.
James Neal should not only be suspended; he should have been suspended for the rest of the series. One game is WAY too lenient for such a despicable and heinous action.
Clearly, you are a Pittsburgh fan. And that's fine. Now, imagine if Scottie Hartnell had taken an 11-stride flying elbow directed right at Sidney Crosby's head.
James Neal:
a.) took about 11 strides before delivering his check. That is charging. --> indicates an attempt to injure.
b.) left his feet, and FLEW into his opponent. --> indicates an attempt to severely injure.
c.) had plenty of time to identify which player - Giroux --> indicates an attempt to injure one of the best players on the Flyers.
d.) put up his elbow and directed directly at Giroux's head --> again, indicating a clear, and unequivocal, and CALCULATED attempt to injure another player.
James Neal has been suspended once, fined twice, and has received two warning calls from the league already this year for hitting from behind and elbowing. He is a big-time repeat offender.
In addition, on the very previous play, he recklessly skated right into Sean Couturier in again, an obvious attempt to injure the player.
James Neal should have gotten 4 games (rest of the series) minimum. His actions, and given the history of the player, are appalling. And, much worse than Aaron Asham I may add, who got 4 games.
Dan Bylsma, who got fined $10,000 for Craig Adams fighting with under 5 minutes to go, should have also been fined by the league for the James Neal attack. After Neal went very obviously went after Couturier, Bylsma left him on the ice. Which, is bulls***. Bylsma knew very well that Neal was in a vengeful and aggressive mood - he should have been sat to cool his head. The game was 7-4 and out of reach at that point. There is no argument to be made for, "oh, we thought we could come back." No. The only reason for Neal to have been on the ice - after the attack on Couturier - was to further injure Philly players. Bylsma knows this - he's no idiot. Based on that, one could implicate Bylsma on very obvious attempt at injuring one of Philly's best players.
To summarize, the attack was extremely dangerous, very calculated, and it was a very obvious attempt to injure. And not just to injure - but to pretty much cripple - one of Philly's best players. And it was done by a player with a very questionable history. James Neal should have gotten at a very minimum four games facing through disciplinary action and a massive fine. This kind of thing can not stand in the NHL. Sorry Guest2187 - you are exactly, and absolutely, 100% completely wrong.
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Alex116
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Posted - 04/19/2012 : 10:03:12
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Originally posted by CrockOShight
Dan Bylsma, who got fined $10,000 for Craig Adams fighting with under 5 minutes to go, should have also been fined by the league for the James Neal attack. After Neal went very obviously went after Couturier, Bylsma left him on the ice. Which, is bulls***. Bylsma knew very well that Neal was in a vengeful and aggressive mood - he should have been sat to cool his head. The game was 7-4 and out of reach at that point. There is no argument to be made for, "oh, we thought we could come back." No. The only reason for Neal to have been on the ice - after the attack on Couturier - was to further injure Philly players. Bylsma knows this - he's no idiot. Based on that, one could implicate Bylsma on very obvious attempt at injuring one of Philly's best players.
WHOA Crock! Tell us how you really feel! 
As far as Bylsma goes, i think the toughest part of fining him is the fact that Neal is in fact one of the top offensive producers on the Pens. It would be very easy to argue that he was on the ice in hopes of a comeback. When you consider the record setting amount of goals scored, it's hard to say that the comeback would be impossible!
I still think that Paul Maclean in Ottawa should have been fined/suspended for the Carkner incident. He wasn't dressed the game before, was very vocal pregame about his desires for revenge, and was thrown out onto the ice the second B. Boyle stepped off the Rangers bench. How is that not premeditated???
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