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Guest4178
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 Posted - 04/26/2012 : 13:42:53
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With the Bruins now eliminated, there's no chance of a repeat cup winner this season!
With 8 different cup winners the past eight seasons, we have most certainly seen the last of the dynasties, but will we ever see another two-in-a-row cup winner?
With parity at the top of the league, it seems like any of the 16 teams who get in the playoffs have a real chance of winning the cup.
In the last ten years (perhaps longer), there has not been one team which has stood above the rest of the league as a real powerhouse.
And we've watched teams like Washington, Pittsburgh and Chicago rise from the bottom of the league to the top. (Or close to the top.)
Of the ten teams remaining in the playoffs this year (of which two will be eliminated tonight), the most recent cup win goes back to 1994, when the Rangers beat out Vancouver in a close seven game series. And before that, you have to go back to 1975 for the Flyers last cup win.
Aside from the Rangers and Flyers, there are no cup winners amongst the ten remaining teams left in the playoffs. (Unless you count Ottawa's cup wins prior to the modern era.)
And whoever wins the cup this year, is unlikely to repeat next season. I'm not suggesting it can't be done, but the likelihood of seeing a repeat cup winner in the coming years is way less likely than it ever was in the past!
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Guest9644
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Posted - 04/26/2012 : 14:43:50
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I would argue there is more parity/variance in the NFL than the NHL (shorter season, injuries, strength of schedule, etc.). However, the NFL still had a repeat winner under their new salary cap scheme (see Patriots, New England). Many would argue this is also a dynasty.
While hockey presents different challenges in winning back to back cups (length of season, greater propensity for injuries/fatigue), there is no reason to think that if a team uses their cap wisely, retains a young talented core, and generally gets some 'luck' along the way (hot goalie, late round draft picks panning out, etc.), then they can not only win back-to back cups, but form a dynasty. It is just very hard to do this (look at Chicago!).
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OILINONTARIO
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Posted - 04/26/2012 : 14:59:24
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I believe we will see back to back winners within this decade. Perhaps Philly, maybe Pittsburgh, and hopefully, the Oilers. I do not, however see the excessive use of parentheses catching on any time soon (however, I could be wrong).
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Clatts
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Posted - 04/26/2012 : 18:12:45
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Originally posted by Guest4178
With the Bruins now eliminated, there's no chance of a repeat cup winner this season!
With 8 different cup winners the past eight seasons, we have most certainly seen the last of the dynasties, but will we ever see another two-in-a-row cup winner?
With parity at the top of the league, it seems like any of the 16 teams who get in the playoffs have a real chance of winning the cup.
In the last ten years (perhaps longer), there has not been one team which has stood above the rest of the league as a real powerhouse.
And we've watched teams like Washington, Pittsburgh and Chicago rise from the bottom of the league to the top. (Or close to the top.)
Of the ten teams remaining in the playoffs this year (of which two will be eliminated tonight), the most recent cup win goes back to 1994, when the Rangers beat out Vancouver in a close seven game series. And before that, you have to go back to 1975 for the Flyers last cup win.
Aside from the Rangers and Flyers, there are no cup winners amongst the ten remaining teams left in the playoffs. (Unless you count Ottawa's cup wins prior to the modern era.)
And whoever wins the cup this year, is unlikely to repeat next season. I'm not suggesting it can't be done, but the likelihood of seeing a repeat cup winner in the coming years is way less likely than it ever was in the past!
New Jersey Devils have 3 cups (last one in 1993), last time I checked game 7 has yet to be played in that series.
"Most of the guys that wear them are Europeans and French Guys."
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Edited by - Clatts on 04/26/2012 18:13:42 |
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Guest4377
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Posted - 04/26/2012 : 18:34:21
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| New Jersey's last cup was in 2003 (not 1993), but that's nitpicking! :) |
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semin-rules
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Posted - 04/26/2012 : 18:58:29
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| I for one don't like having repeats, it isn't as exciting the 2nd year around. |
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Beans15
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Posted - 04/26/2012 : 19:15:07
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Umm, Detroit Red Wings anyone??
Since 97
4 Stanley Cups
1 Stanley Cup Runner up
5 Presidents Trophies
10 Division Titles
They are, by far, the most dominant team in the past 15 years.
But, using the definition of multiple Cup rings in a short period of time, the days of the traditional dynasty are long over. There have been only 2 back to back Cup champions in the past 22 years (Pitt in 91-92 and Detroit in 97-98).
Those days are over. I think Joe Hockey fan needs to appreciate a single Cup run as something special. They are very rare these days.
Daniel Alfredsson is the MVP of the universe. All hail the Ottawa Senators!!!!! |
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Clatts
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Posted - 04/26/2012 : 19:18:29
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Originally posted by Guest4377
New Jersey's last cup was in 2003 (not 1993), but that's nitpicking! :)
Yeah that what I mean't
"Most of the guys that wear them are Europeans and French Guys."
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Guest4377
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Posted - 04/26/2012 : 21:54:10
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Four Cups (and a runner-up) in 15 years is quite a record, but it doesn't meet my criteria as a dynasty. (But I don't disagree that such a record displays a certain dominance.)
Comparable to Detroit's achievements over 15 years is what New Jersey Devils achieved in just 9 years (from 1995 to 2003), winning three Stanley Cups, along with a runner-up finish.
That's great success as a team, but not quite a dynasty in my opinion.
I remember when the Oilers won three cups in four years, but the term "dynasty" was not really mentioned (or credible) until their 4th cup win!
Everyone's standards (and definitions) are different, but in my opinion, the last real dynasties were the Oilers, Islanders and Canadiens. I suppose if we want to change the criteria because there are more teams, or shucks, it's really hard to win three or four cups in a row (or four cups in five years), I kinda get it.
But the reality is that it's very unlikely we will ever see another dynasty in the NHL, at least the way things stand now! But if you want to change the criteria (or definition of what is a dynasty), I suppose we can imagine a few teams who are on their way? But who are those teams?
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