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leigh
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Canada
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Posted - 05/14/2007 :  14:25:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Poll Question:
If time travel were possible (it is right?), which Team Canada would you take to the world stage?

Choices:

2002 Olympic Gold Medalists
1972 Summit Champions
2007 World Champions
1987 Canada Cup Winners
2010 Olympic Gold Medalists
Other...

-oil-country-
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Canada
988 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2007 :  15:22:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is the 2010 Olympic Gold Medalists a joke or is it supposed to be 2001?

Ovechkin>Crosby
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leigh
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Canada
1755 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2007 :  15:29:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by -oil-country-

Is the 2010 Olympic Gold Medalists a joke or is it supposed to be 2001?

Hey we are talking about time travel so I thought I'd make it interesting. Considering the talent pool that is on it's way through the Canadian system it might be a good hypothetical for some of our more "prognosticating" members.
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Mikhailova
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USA
2918 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2007 :  15:38:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When Canada doesn't win gold in 2010 I'll laugh

So, since we're unsure of how they'll do in the future Olympics, I'll say the 1972 Summit Champs. That was quite a team. I wouldn't say this year's World Champs because they were lacking a lot of their good NHLers. 2002 Olympic gold medalists would be the runner-up.

But, since I'm not Canadian, I couldn't really take any of those could I. 1980 Olympic gold medalists for me then

Cool poll Leigh!
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stastnysforever
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Canada
301 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2007 :  15:42:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why did Stastny play for USA?, he was born in canada
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Mikhailova
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USA
2918 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2007 :  15:43:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He has dual citizenship, so I guess he can play for either one...that's my guess.
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willus3
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Canada
1948 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2007 :  16:26:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
76 Canada Cup team was the best team Canada ever iced.

"You are not your desktop wallpaper"
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Guest7758
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Posted - 05/14/2007 :  16:39:12  Reply with Quote
Although 2002 Gold Medal Team was completely stacked, the 87' Canada Cup team was unbeatable. 2 words: Gretzky, Lemeiux. No contest.
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Saku Steen
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Canada
1102 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2007 :  16:47:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I said 02, what an amazing games. Though I still remember everything I would love to relive it again.
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admin
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Canada
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Posted - 05/14/2007 :  18:03:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by willus3

76 Canada Cup team was the best team Canada ever iced.


Willus, tell me about the 76 team...
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willus3
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Canada
1948 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2007 :  18:24:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Examine the roster for a few moments. It's staggering.

Forwards and Defense: Bill Barber, Bobby Clarke, Marcel Dionne, Phil Esposito, Bob Gainey, Danny Gare, Bobby Hull, Guy Lafleur, Guy Lapointe, Reggie Leach, Peter Mahovlich, Richard Martin, Lanny McDonald, Bobby Orr, Gilbert Perreault, Denis Potvin, Larry Robinson, Serge Savard, Steve Shutt, Darryl Sittler, Carol Vadnais, Jimmy Watson
Goaltenders: Gerry Cheevers, Glenn Resch, Rogatien Vachon
Coaches: Scotty Bowman, Don Cherry, Bobby Kromm, Al MacNeil

"You are not your desktop wallpaper"
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willus3
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Canada
1948 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2007 :  20:11:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
76 has to be the best defense ever assembled on one team. Evidenced by the round robin results.
Round Robin Standings
GP W L T GF GA Pts
Canada 5 4 1 0 22 6 8
Czechoslovakia 5 3 1 1 19 9 7
USSR 5 2 2 1 23 14 5
Sweden 5 2 2 1 16 18 5
USA 5 1 3 1 14 21 3
Finland 5 1 4 0 16 42 2

"You are not your desktop wallpaper"

Edited by - willus3 on 05/14/2007 20:15:39
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GOWINGS19
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USA
232 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2007 :  21:11:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mikhailova

When Canada doesn't win gold in 2010 I'll laugh

So, since we're unsure of how they'll do in the future Olympics, I'll say the 1972 Summit Champs. That was quite a team. I wouldn't say this year's World Champs because they were lacking a lot of their good NHLers. 2002 Olympic gold medalists would be the runner-up.

But, since I'm not Canadian, I couldn't really take any of those could I. 1980 Olympic gold medalists for me then

Cool poll Leigh!



I'm with you on that one Mik...especiallyyyy the 1980 games

"I don’t need to score the goal. I need someone to start thinking about me and forgetting about scoring goals." -Vladmir Konstantinov
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Guest4009
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Posted - 05/15/2007 :  11:15:14  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stastnysforever

Why did Stastny play for USA?, he was born in canada



He does have dual citizenship, and he wants to play in the Olympics. He has no chance of cracking Team Canada, but will probably make the USA Team, which is less talented and certainly not as deep.
Lots of Canadian guys have played for Team USA in the past - Brett Hull, Adam Deadmarsh and Bryan Trottier are a few that come to mind.
Other countries have Canadians on them, too. Especially the lower teir teams. The best player on the Swiss team (DiPietro) was a Canadian. Team Italy was mostly Italian-Canadians, not Italians.
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star



USA
2918 Posts

Posted - 05/15/2007 :  11:52:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest4009

The best player on the Swiss team (DiPietro) was a Canadian.


You're not talking about Rick DiPietro, are you? He's American.

To add to the list of Canadians involved with other teams/organizations, Dave King, a Canadian, was the head coach of Metallurg Magnitogorsk, Malkin's former team.
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Beans15
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Canada
8286 Posts

Posted - 05/15/2007 :  12:00:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
PAUL Dipietro was born in Canada and plays for Switzerland. I'm guessing his at least one of his parent are Swiss.

And if that's the case, one of today's best Canadian players is German, as Heatley was born there. Does that mean he is not Canadian??
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Mikhailova
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USA
2918 Posts

Posted - 05/15/2007 :  12:03:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh, PAUL...my bad.

And Kolzig was born in South Africa to German parents. Bondra was born in Ukraine but plays for Slovakia. Lots of players play for different countries than they were born in for different reasons. But since that's not the topic, we can discuss that elsewhere...
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Guest9910
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Posted - 05/15/2007 :  15:24:12  Reply with Quote
1987 Canada Cup winning team. And play Gretzky and Lemieux -- as the Russian's put it -- "same line, all the time".

That final 3 game series has to be the most high tempo hockey ever played.
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Patchy
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Canada
529 Posts

Posted - 05/15/2007 :  17:27:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In my opinion, the 2002 Canada team was the most complete of all of them. They had great scoring, defense and outstanding goaltending. I forget if they had a perfect record or not, but nonetheless they were facing some pretty decent teams too.

~~Go Leafs Go~~
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Guest9695
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Posted - 05/15/2007 :  18:59:59  Reply with Quote
1987 Canada Cup - Gretz and Mario enough said!
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I´m also Cånädiön
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Sweden
217 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2007 :  03:09:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would say 1987 with Gretzky and Lemieux.

(Sigh) If time travelling was possible I would have gone back to 2002 Olympics and knocked out Tommy Salo and dropped of a decent goalie... and this poll could have looked a bit different.....

Btw Patchy: Sweden-Canada 5-2

I´dont want to take anything away from the Canadian achivment but you got to understand it was the biggest fiasko of Swedish hockey.

Edited by - I´m also Cånädiön on 05/16/2007 04:29:25
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Guest5100
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Posted - 05/16/2007 :  06:46:42  Reply with Quote
K, i didnt read any of the posts here, but should we be making the assumption that Canada will win in 2010 then get dissapointed the USA basketball team?

I know Canada will have a sick pool of players to choose from, prehaps 3 out of 4 staals will be there, that would be sick!!!

But I think we should let it pan out.

Marleau - Cheechoo - J. Thornton
Crosby - J. Staal - R. Smyth
E. Staal - Spezza - Heatley
Richards - Lecavalier - St. Louis
Sakic - M. Savard - Briere
Iginla - Cammalerri - P. Bergeron
Getzlaf - C. Perry - A. MacDonald
Doan - etc, etc, etc,.

S. Neidermeyer - D. Phaneuf
Pronger - M. Staal?
Redden - Preissing
Bauchemin - Commodore
Corvo - Weber
Bouwmeester - McCabe
Boyle - Souray

Goailes easier
Brodeur, Luongo, Turco
Outside chances - C. Ward, M.A. Fleury, Huet, J.S. Giguere, Emery

Who the hell do you choose here? We Should have Canada I & II just like bobsledding.

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BigShow
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177 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2007 :  09:19:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I really liked Canada's 1998 olympic team.

Too bad Kariya got gooned by Suter, two weeks before, and Sakic got hurt in early in the round robin.
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star



USA
2918 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2007 :  12:15:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by I´m also Cånädiön

I´dont want to take anything away from the Canadian achivment but you got to understand it was the biggest fiasko of Swedish hockey.



Weren't the 2002 Olympics the ones where Ulf Samuelsson was forced off the Swedish team because he tried to get dual citizenship, and when Belarus beat Sweden (?)4-3 in one of the biggest upsets ever? Those were tough times for the Swedes...but hey, you beat your Scandinavian rival in Torino and won gold
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67LEAFS
Top Prospect



17 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2007 :  13:00:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1987 Team Canada if only to witness Gretzky and Lemieux together. Close second is 1981 Team Canada for the Gretzky, Lafleur, Perreault line. Up until Perreault broke his ankle, that was one of Team Canada's best lines ever.
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Patchy
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Canada
529 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2007 :  13:06:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by I´m also Cånädiön

I would say 1987 with Gretzky and Lemieux.

(Sigh) If time travelling was possible I would have gone back to 2002 Olympics and knocked out Tommy Salo and dropped of a decent goalie... and this poll could have looked a bit different.....

Btw Patchy: Sweden-Canada 5-2

I´dont want to take anything away from the Canadian achivment but you got to understand it was the biggest fiasko of Swedish hockey.


Ya I remember that game. great swedish club though, too bad they had to go out like that.

~~Go Leafs Go~~
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Saku Steen
PickupHockey Veteran



Canada
1102 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2007 :  14:26:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mikhailova

quote:
Originally posted by I´m also Cånädiön

I´dont want to take anything away from the Canadian achivment but you got to understand it was the biggest fiasko of Swedish hockey.



Weren't the 2002 Olympics the ones where Ulf Samuelsson was forced off the Swedish team because he tried to get dual citizenship, and when Belarus beat Sweden (?)4-3 in one of the biggest upsets ever? Those were tough times for the Swedes...but hey, you beat your Scandinavian rival in Torino and won gold



Ya it was, that game riuned Tommy Salos career.
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Mikhailova
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USA
2918 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2007 :  15:10:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I see someone drew a stamp just to commemorate that

http://akamai.tehnokratt.net/pictures/larko/salo.jpg

Edited by - Mikhailova on 05/16/2007 15:14:54
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stastnysforever
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Canada
301 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2007 :  19:44:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mikhailova

He has dual citizenship, so I guess he can play for either one...that's my guess.


I knew he had a dual citizenship, I just thought it was Canada and Czechoslovakia

Edited by - stastnysforever on 05/17/2007 07:00:57
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Guest4401
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Posted - 05/17/2007 :  06:41:37  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stastnysforever

Why did Stastny play for USA?, he was born in canada



Statsny was born in Slovakia, but defected to Canada.
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stastnysforever
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Canada
301 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2007 :  07:00:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest4401

quote:
Originally posted by stastnysforever

Why did Stastny play for USA?, he was born in canada



Statsny was born in Slovakia, but defected to Canada.


Stastny was born in Quebec
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stastnysforever
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Canada
301 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2007 :  07:02:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I chose 72 because Im alsmost as obsessed with that as i am obsessed with Stastny
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andyhack
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Japan
891 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2007 :  08:21:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think the '76 team was better than the '72 team, but more importantly, most accounts from the players themselves, including the ones who played for both teams, seem to support that opinion.

Was '76 better than '87? That is a tougher call but, okay, I say they were. That great Canadian team in '87, as talented as they were, only barely escaped with victory against the Russians. The '87 Russians were good but were they better than Canada's '76 team - I don't think so.

p.s. TC - does the above pass the logic test, or do I have to go back to basics?

Maybe I'll practice now - Let me see, well, if Beans is Willus's brother and Willus is Chooch's brother, does that not make Beans Chooch's brother?

Beans! What do you know? You and Chooch are brothers!!!!!
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Beans15
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Canada
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Posted - 05/17/2007 :  12:07:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We may be brothers, but he is the Black Sheep of the family.


And my vote on here goes to the 87 team. Not for any other reason by I was -6 years old in 72, and -2 years old in 76. I can't compare. I don't think there has been a Canadian team since 87 that even compares.

I Love your Kids, IHC is the man, and The Oilers Rule. Does that make me insane??
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Mikhailova
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USA
2918 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2007 :  12:32:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stastnysforever

I knew he had a dual citizenship, I just thought it was Canada and Czechoslovakia



Nope, Paul has Canada and US, Peter has Canada and Slovakia.
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Mikhailova
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USA
2918 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2007 :  12:33:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stastnysforever

quote:
Originally posted by Guest4401

Statsny was born in Slovakia, but defected to Canada.


Stastny was born in Quebec



Peter Stastny was born in Czechoslovakia and defected to Canada. Paul Stastny was then born in Quebec.
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Guest4242
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Posted - 05/17/2007 :  22:40:40  Reply with Quote
um im not going to lie to u boys but i think if i was to take a team canada team i would take any of are world jr teams from the past 4-5 years
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99pickles
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Canada
671 Posts

Posted - 05/18/2007 :  09:03:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest4401

quote:
Originally posted by stastnysforever

Why did Stastny play for USA?, he was born in canada



Statsny was born in Slovakia, but defected to Canada.




You are talking about different Stastnys. Guest 4401 thinks you mean Peter.
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99pickles
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Canada
671 Posts

Posted - 05/18/2007 :  09:10:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pardon me, I see that Stastny thing was addressed.


As for the topic. After rewatching some of the '72 series I can't pick that team. Although I was leaning towards the '87 team of the choices I see that the '76 team was brought up. That team was golden. Jimmy Watson's head exploded when he walked into that room !
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PainTrain
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Canada
1393 Posts

Posted - 05/18/2007 :  09:20:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest5100

K, i didnt read any of the posts here, but should we be making the assumption that Canada will win in 2010 then get dissapointed the USA basketball team?

I know Canada will have a sick pool of players to choose from, prehaps 3 out of 4 staals will be there, that would be sick!!!

But I think we should let it pan out.

Marleau - Cheechoo - J. Thornton
Crosby - J. Staal - R. Smyth
E. Staal - Spezza - Heatley
Richards - Lecavalier - St. Louis
Sakic - M. Savard - Briere
Iginla - Cammalerri - P. Bergeron
Getzlaf - C. Perry - A. MacDonald
Doan - etc, etc, etc,.

S. Neidermeyer - D. Phaneuf
Pronger - M. Staal?
Redden - Preissing
Bauchemin - Commodore
CORVO - Weber
Bouwmeester - McCabe
Boyle - Souray

Goailes easier
Brodeur, Luongo, Turco
Outside chances - C. Ward, M.A. Fleury, Huet, J.S. Giguere, Emery

Who the hell do you choose here? We Should have Canada I & II just like bobsledding.






Corvo is from the U.S.A. And I agree two teams for Canada, we have enough players, problem is that a high chance is that the two Canadian teams will be in the finals.
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HasekFan39
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Canada
143 Posts

Posted - 05/18/2007 :  23:00:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You have to say the 1987 Canada team. I agree with people who say Gretzky and Lemieux.

Victory awaits him who has everything in order--luck, people call it. Defeat is certain for him who has neglected to take the necessary precautions in time; this is called bad luck.

Edited by - HasekFan39 on 05/18/2007 23:03:03
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