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leigh
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 Posted - 06/08/2007 : 12:00:28
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Originally posted by tctitans
...At least that's what the homers are hoping for.. eh Leigh? 
hahaha! you go t that right TCT! 
Technically though I'm not a homer...never lived in Calgary or Alberta.  How the heck did I become a flames fan again??? |
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Guest4666
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Posted - 06/08/2007 : 14:15:20
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Originally posted by leigh
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Originally posted by tctitans
...At least that's what the homers are hoping for.. eh Leigh?
hahaha! you go t that right TCT!
Technically though I'm not a homer...never lived in Calgary or Alberta. How the heck did I become a flames fan again???
Probably dropped on your head as a child |
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leigh
Moderator
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Posted - 06/08/2007 : 15:22:28
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Originally posted by Guest4666
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Originally posted by leigh
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Originally posted by tctitans
...At least that's what the homers are hoping for.. eh Leigh?
hahaha! you go t that right TCT!
Technically though I'm not a homer...never lived in Calgary or Alberta. How the heck did I become a flames fan again???
Probably dropped on your head as a child
Haha! thanks guest 4666. notice the "666" in your guest handle? That explains the mean streak!  |
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Pasty7
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2312 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2007 : 08:51:03
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pronger is deffinetly the 3rd best d man in the league,, i mean its ridculous to even argue that ,, hes proven himself far more then zubov boyle campbell and any others mentioned there are only and only 2 d man better than pronger today,, scotty and lidstrom period,,,,, i dont like pronger at all but i won't kid myself just cuz of my lack respect for him,,, and the next person whos says he just big,,,, well thats part of what makes him good,,,, thats like when people say vancover didn't deserve to make it as far as they did it was all roberto but the goalies a part of the team you can;t blame them for having a good goalie same as you can't blame pronger for being 6.6 p.s last year when lidstrom won the norris,,, if you went by stats it should have been dion he exceeded all the bars set by lidstrom they just didn;t give it to him cuz hes a rook!
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Guest4462
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Posted - 06/09/2007 : 10:54:19
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Originally posted by Pasty7
pronger is deffinetly the 3rd best d man in the league,, i mean its ridculous to even argue that ,, hes proven himself far more then zubov boyle campbell and any others mentioned there are only and only 2 d man better than pronger today,, scotty and lidstrom period,,,,, i dont like pronger at all but i won't kid myself just cuz of my lack respect for him,,, and the next person whos says he just big,,,, well thats part of what makes him good,,,, thats like when people say vancover didn't deserve to make it as far as they did it was all roberto but the goalies a part of the team you can;t blame them for having a good goalie same as you can't blame pronger for being 6.6 p.s last year when lidstrom won the norris,,, if you went by stats it should have been dion he exceeded all the bars set by lidstrom they just didn;t give it to him cuz hes a rook!
Pasty
We're all allowed our opinions. :) I have my opinion based on what I see him do, what I see him not do, and what strengths and weaknesses he has compared to other defensemen. You can think he's the 3rd best, but I strongly put him further down the list. I stand by my statement that Zubov is a better dman now, and a *much* better dman in his younger years. There is no argument here that Chris is a fantastic player, that's not what is being debated. |
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manninm
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 06/11/2007 : 05:46:26
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FYI 4462 Pronger had 5 more points this year in 12 less games and had a +27 rating, good for tops on his team and top 15 in the league. Zubov was even and was tied for 13th on his team. Granted, Pronger plays on Anaheim, which helps, but I fail to see how Zubov was or is better than Pronger. Pronger's career PPG avg is 1.69, Zubov's is 1.38. Peak performance, Zubov had a 66 point season compared to Pronger's 62 point season. That season Pronger's plus minus was 52 compared to Zubov's 28.
Because the demands on a goalie are mostly mental, it means that for a goalie, the biggest enemy is himself." ~Ken Dryden |
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Pasty7
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 06/11/2007 : 21:33:17
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Originally posted by manninm
FYI 4462 Pronger had 5 more points this year in 12 less games and had a +27 rating, good for tops on his team and top 15 in the league. Zubov was even and was tied for 13th on his team. Granted, Pronger plays on Anaheim, which helps, but I fail to see how Zubov was or is better than Pronger. Pronger's career PPG avg is 1.69, Zubov's is 1.38. Peak performance, Zubov had a 66 point season compared to Pronger's 62 point season. That season Pronger's plus minus was 52 compared to Zubov's 28.
Because the demands on a goalie are mostly mental, it means that for a goalie, the biggest enemy is himself." ~Ken Dryden
stats central right here,,, i defencemans first job however is to prevent goals personaly a guy like souray is the worst case senerio for me i'll take a guy like dany markov before a high scoring d man,, and i think pronger does a exceedingly good job at both ends of the rink,,,, and thats what puts him as a top three d man in the league
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Pronger is not as good as everyone thinks he is... 
