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PainTrain
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Posted - 10/26/2007 :  22:33:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Out of the active players only.

You take one players skating ,shooting ,intelligence ,grit, passing and leadership. And you make a Super Player.

You can only use one player once for each category.

I want to see some answers before I post mine.





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fly4apuckguy
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Posted - 10/26/2007 :  23:13:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Skating - Marian Gaborik
Shooting - Brian Rolston
Intelligence - Joe Sakic
Grit - Rod Brind'Amour
Passing - Sidney Crosby
Leadership - Jarome Iginla

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Leafs Rock Planet
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Posted - 10/27/2007 :  05:19:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great topic Pain.

Skating - Alexander Ovechkin
Shooting - Ilya Kovalchuk or Jarome Iginla
Intelligence - Sidney Crosby
Grit - Todd Bertuzzi
Passing - Joe Thornton
Leadership - Joe Sakic

Edited by - Leafs Rock Planet on 10/27/2007 05:22:00
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leafsfan_101
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Posted - 10/27/2007 :  06:29:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Skating-Marian Gaborik
Shooting-Alexander Ovechkin
Intelligence- Sidney Crosby
Grit- Ryan Smyth
Passing-Joe Thornton
Leadership- Rod Brind'Amour
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Kashmire
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Posted - 10/27/2007 :  06:57:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lecavalier has it all.
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Beans15
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Posted - 10/27/2007 :  09:13:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would take Iginla and mold him with Crosby.

You don't need the rest of the players involved. I think Iginla is the best player in the game today and Crosby will be in the future and for long times to come. Those two have it all. Passing, intelligence, skating, grit, leadership.

That's the only combination you would need.


If you are under the age of 15, please do some research before you make a post about anything pre-1997.
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fly4apuckguy
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Posted - 10/27/2007 :  09:21:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Beans15

I would take Iginla and mold him with Crosby.

You don't need the rest of the players involved. I think Iginla is the best player in the game today and Crosby will be in the future and for long times to come. Those two have it all. Passing, intelligence, skating, grit, leadership.

That's the only combination you would need.


If you are under the age of 15, please do some research before you make a post about anything pre-1997.



Good call. There isn't anything on that list that one of these players do not provide in large quantities.
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PuckNuts
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Posted - 10/27/2007 :  09:21:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Beans I think you need to sprinkle a dash of Chelios into the mix so this molded player can play well into his fourties...

I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
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hkalirah
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Posted - 10/27/2007 :  12:31:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Power Skating - Jiri Hudler (DET) Watch out for this kid.
Shooting - Ovechkin (WAS)
Intelligence - Lidstrom (DET)
Grit - Roberts (PIT)
Passing - Jagr (NYR)
Leadership - Sakic (COL)

Wings are used to fly, Leaves only fall.
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Posted - 10/27/2007 :  12:38:37  Reply with Quote
Skating- Marian Gaborik
Shooting- Alexander Ovechkin
Intelligence- Sidney Crosby
Grit- Ryan Smyth
Passing- Joe Thornton
Leadership- Joe Sakic
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PainTrain
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Posted - 10/27/2007 :  13:43:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Alright now I'm going to post.

Skating-Matt Lombardi
Shooting-Jarome Iginla
Intelligence-Sidney Crosby
Grit-Ryan Smyth
Passing-Joe Thornton
Leadership-Joe Sakic.

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Beans15
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Posted - 10/27/2007 :  15:32:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok, let's go all time:

Skating-Bobby Orr
Shooting-Al MacInnis slapshot with Brett or Bobby Hull's Wrist shot.
Intelligence-Wayne Gretzky
Grit-Bobby Clarke
Passing-Wayne Gretzky
Leadership-Mark Messier

Can you beat that?? I don't think so.

If you are under the age of 15, please do some research before you make a post about anything pre-1997.
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Greg Smith
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Posted - 10/27/2007 :  16:46:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PainTrain

Alright now I'm going to post.

Skating-Matt Lombardi
Shooting-Jarome Iginla
Intelligence-Sidney Crosby
Grit-Ryan Smyth
Passing-Joe Thornton
Leadership-Joe Sakic.

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subsitute Kovalchul for lombardi and Ovechkin for iginla and that's my perfect Superstar

After playing in the NHL, it's hard to watch hockey games.
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PainTrain
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Posted - 10/27/2007 :  18:38:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay I forgot to put in stick handling ability. So it's skating, shooting,intelligence,grit,passing,leadership and stick handling.

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Posted - 10/29/2007 :  22:36:32  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Beans15

I would take Iginla and mold him with Crosby.

You don't need the rest of the players involved. I think Iginla is the best player in the game today and Crosby will be in the future and for long times to come. Those two have it all. Passing, intelligence, skating, grit, leadership.

That's the only combination you would need.


If you are under the age of 15, please do some research before you make a post about anything pre-1997.



Finally I have met an Oiler fan who thinks Iginla is the best player in the NHL right now!

Take Crosby's "magic" and maybe skating, and the rest Iginla, he would be the greatest hockey player no doubt.
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Posted - 10/30/2007 :  00:15:01  Reply with Quote
Skating: Rick Nash
Passing: Joe Thornthon
Shooting: Danny Heatley
Grit: Sidney Crosby
Leadership: Joe Sakic
Intelligence: Henrik Zetterberg
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Posted - 10/30/2007 :  00:55:09  Reply with Quote
Iginla, end of discussion.
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Posted - 10/30/2007 :  08:29:20  Reply with Quote
Skating: Ales Hemsky
Passing: Jason Spezza
Shooting: Alex Ovechkin
Grit: Ryan Smyth
Leadership: Scott Niedermayer
Intelligence: Sidney Crosby
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Posted - 10/30/2007 :  10:02:36  Reply with Quote
Skating: Gaborik
Passing: Thornton
Shooting: Kovalchuk
Grit: Iginla
Leadership: Brind'amour
Intelligence: Lidstrom
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SuperSakic
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Posted - 10/30/2007 :  10:30:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
skating - Gaborik

The rest, just mix Sakic with Lecavalier (why isn't he mentioned more often?)
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SuperSakic
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Posted - 10/30/2007 :  10:38:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kashmire

Lecavalier has it all.



I totaly agree. I believe that he is the best hockey player right now. Unlike crosby, he doesn't need body guards on the ice. Lecavalier IS the body guard of his team! With the exception of Iginla, I don't think there are other players that can do it ALL!

This may actually be a good topic on its own...
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fly4apuckguy
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Posted - 10/30/2007 :  18:41:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Crosby needs bodyguards?

Seems to me he scored over 100 points in the NHL with no one protecting him in his rookie year.

How many points did Lecavalier get in his rookie year?
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fly4apuckguy
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Posted - 10/30/2007 :  18:45:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
By the way, the answer is 28.

In their first seasons, Lecavalier got 28 points, Sidney got 102.

To compare them isn't apples to oranges, it's tiny little seed to bid red friggin' apple.

I like Lecavalier, but come on. He's been in the league since 1998, and last year was the first season that could be described as outstanding. And just because he gets into a couple of fights, don't crown him the enforcer of the league just yet.
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SuperSakic
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Posted - 10/31/2007 :  12:15:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fly4apuckguy

Crosby needs bodyguards?

Seems to me he scored over 100 points in the NHL with no one protecting him in his rookie year.

How many points did Lecavalier get in his rookie year?



Yes. In fact, that is why they went out and picked up Gary Roberts. So that the kid would stop crying after a brief wind went past him after every shift....He sure does a good job of crying and pouting.

I never said he couldn't score. But I also recall him having the Magnificent One playing with him for half a season. Even though Lemieux didn't rack up the points, his presence alone inspires greatness others....

I am comparing both their abilities at the current time. I believe that is what the survey was asking....Also, going by your logic, you shouldn't have anyone on the list that is older or younger than crosby because that is not comparing "apples to apples".
And I never said that Vinnie is the toughest guy in the league. I just meant that he's the best guy on his team and he doesn't need anyone to stick up for him. He doesn't have to go running behind mommy's skirt if someone gets in his face.

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MSC
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Posted - 10/31/2007 :  21:58:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Skating - Gaborik
Shooting - Ovechkin
Intelligence - Crosby
Grit - Iginla
Passing - Thornton
Leadership - Neidermayer
Stick Handling - Spezza

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fly4apuckguy
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Posted - 10/31/2007 :  22:18:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SuperSakic

quote:
Originally posted by fly4apuckguy

Crosby needs bodyguards?

Seems to me he scored over 100 points in the NHL with no one protecting him in his rookie year.

How many points did Lecavalier get in his rookie year?



Yes. In fact, that is why they went out and picked up Gary Roberts. So that the kid would stop crying after a brief wind went past him after every shift....He sure does a good job of crying and pouting.

I never said he couldn't score. But I also recall him having the Magnificent One playing with him for half a season. Even though Lemieux didn't rack up the points, his presence alone inspires greatness others....

I am comparing both their abilities at the current time. I believe that is what the survey was asking....Also, going by your logic, you shouldn't have anyone on the list that is older or younger than crosby because that is not comparing "apples to apples".
And I never said that Vinnie is the toughest guy in the league. I just meant that he's the best guy on his team and he doesn't need anyone to stick up for him. He doesn't have to go running behind mommy's skirt if someone gets in his face.



Wow. You really don't watch many Pittsburgh games, do you? Well, I do. In fact, as I've stated elsewhere on this board, I've only missed about 5 (and perhaps fewer) of Crosby's games as an NHLer.

The "Crosby is a whiner" business is a media creation. How do I know? I actually watch the games. A person exposes themself to me as unknowledgable as soon as they start giving me the Crosby is a whiner thing, because they truly have no idea what they are talking about.

You are a highlight watcher. You listen to sports radio. Perhaps you catch the odd commentator trying to make a name for himself (trying to be the next Don Cherry). This does not make you knowledgable about Sidney Crosby. It makes you a follower of the media. This so-called "whininess" that he has ACTUALLY displayed in his NHL career amounts to diddly-squat. It's three minutes out of his four thousand minute career to date. It's like calling Gretzky a fighter because you went on youtube and saw him and Neal Broten fight for three minutes in 1985.

With all due respect, you are out of your element telling me about Sidney Crosby. Watch 170 of his games and then we'll talk. And then you'll apologize for your highlight-snippet review of him as a player, and his character. I am not wrong on this issue, and anyone wanting to call me an elitist for saying so better be able to provide me with more evidence than anyone ever has other than the amount that took place extremely sporadically in his rookie season.

Do they make "whiners" captains, usually? If you actually watched the games, you'd see who stands up for who on that team.

Gary Roberts, if you actually watched the games but obviously don't, has an extremely limited role on that team this year. Some games you barely hear his name. I love Roberts, he's a class guy and a fitness nut, but times waits for no man.

Edited by - fly4apuckguy on 10/31/2007 22:23:08
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SuperSakic
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Posted - 11/02/2007 :  10:48:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Wow. You really don't watch many Pittsburgh games, do you? Well, I do. In fact, as I've stated elsewhere on this board, I've only missed about 5 (and perhaps fewer) of Crosby's games as an NHLer.

The "Crosby is a whiner" business is a media creation. How do I know? I actually watch the games. A person exposes themself to me as unknowledgable as soon as they start giving me the Crosby is a whiner thing, because they truly have no idea what they are talking about.

You are a highlight watcher. You listen to sports radio. Perhaps you catch the odd commentator trying to make a name for himself (trying to be the next Don Cherry). This does not make you knowledgable about Sidney Crosby. It makes you a follower of the media. This so-called "whininess" that he has ACTUALLY displayed in his NHL career amounts to diddly-squat. It's three minutes out of his four thousand minute career to date. It's like calling Gretzky a fighter because you went on youtube and saw him and Neal Broten fight for three minutes in 1985.

With all due respect, you are out of your element telling me about Sidney Crosby. Watch 170 of his games and then we'll talk. And then you'll apologize for your highlight-snippet review of him as a player, and his character. I am not wrong on this issue, and anyone wanting to call me an elitist for saying so better be able to provide me with more evidence than anyone ever has other than the amount that took place extremely sporadically in his rookie season.

Do they make "whiners" captains, usually? If you actually watched the games, you'd see who stands up for who on that team.

Gary Roberts, if you actually watched the games but obviously don't, has an extremely limited role on that team this year. Some games you barely hear his name. I love Roberts, he's a class guy and a fitness nut, but times waits for no man.



Wow. You got me totally pegged! I only watch highlights and no games at all. Yet, I still feel a compulsion to come on hockey boards and offer up an opinion. Sorry bud, but I think I've watched enough games to have the ability to form some of my own thoughts.

And no, I don't watch every Pittsburgh game that is played. Cause here in TO we only get Leafs games. The odd time we'll get other games on TSN, but mainly Leafs. And that is all I can base my opinion on.
I don't profess to know every little stat about crosby (as you seem to be claiming that you do, and only YOU are entitled to some kind of opinion on him), and nor do I get my knowledge off of Coach's Corner segments. But I have seen a few Pitts games, and it seems like whenever crosby is checked or something there is someone there right away to protect him. I think that I have the right to my opinion, regardless if you like it or not. So don't give me that "I am better than you because I watch EVERY game" business. And please don't try to tell me who I am because you don't know who I am, or what I know, or what I do.

Your opinion does not make you an "elitist" it makes you "pig-headed" because you believe only your opinion is the correct one. Remember, everything is relative. It's all about perspective.

I refuse to apologize for my "highlight-snippet" review of him. You seem to think that the media here in TO shows crosby only in a bad light, but that is where you seem to be out of your element friend. Channels like TSN have propped crosby up like some kind of messiah. All they talk about is crosby this, and crosby that. It's like a circus surrounds him all of the time.
I remember las tyear in the all-star game, all they asked every other player was "so, what was it like playing with crosby?". Even Sakic was asked the same thing after he had 4 points and crosby had none! How do you disrespect a guy like that? It starts to wear on a person after a while. If you say that I have a "highlight-snippet" view of him, I think that you are guilty of the same thing.

It's not like I am saying that they are exaggerating his stats or anything. I am just saying that there are things in him that are lacking. And maybe if he were to improve those flaws maybe I could come to respect him a little more.

And let's not lose sight here. The whole point of my post was to say that I think that Vinnie is a more complete player than crosby. Now, you can throw all the stats at me you want, but that is not going to change my mind. Remember, this is a SUBJECTIVE survey...
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Greg Smith
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Posted - 11/02/2007 :  10:52:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You know what, i'm going to make a poll about that one.

After playing in the NHL, it's hard to watch hockey games.
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fly4apuckguy
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Posted - 11/02/2007 :  22:47:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SuperSakic

quote:
Wow. You really don't watch many Pittsburgh games, do you? Well, I do. In fact, as I've stated elsewhere on this board, I've only missed about 5 (and perhaps fewer) of Crosby's games as an NHLer.

The "Crosby is a whiner" business is a media creation. How do I know? I actually watch the games. A person exposes themself to me as unknowledgable as soon as they start giving me the Crosby is a whiner thing, because they truly have no idea what they are talking about.

You are a highlight watcher. You listen to sports radio. Perhaps you catch the odd commentator trying to make a name for himself (trying to be the next Don Cherry). This does not make you knowledgable about Sidney Crosby. It makes you a follower of the media. This so-called "whininess" that he has ACTUALLY displayed in his NHL career amounts to diddly-squat. It's three minutes out of his four thousand minute career to date. It's like calling Gretzky a fighter because you went on youtube and saw him and Neal Broten fight for three minutes in 1985.

With all due respect, you are out of your element telling me about Sidney Crosby. Watch 170 of his games and then we'll talk. And then you'll apologize for your highlight-snippet review of him as a player, and his character. I am not wrong on this issue, and anyone wanting to call me an elitist for saying so better be able to provide me with more evidence than anyone ever has other than the amount that took place extremely sporadically in his rookie season.

Do they make "whiners" captains, usually? If you actually watched the games, you'd see who stands up for who on that team.

Gary Roberts, if you actually watched the games but obviously don't, has an extremely limited role on that team this year. Some games you barely hear his name. I love Roberts, he's a class guy and a fitness nut, but times waits for no man.



Wow. You got me totally pegged! I only watch highlights and no games at all. Yet, I still feel a compulsion to come on hockey boards and offer up an opinion. Sorry bud, but I think I've watched enough games to have the ability to form some of my own thoughts.

And no, I don't watch every Pittsburgh game that is played. Cause here in TO we only get Leafs games. The odd time we'll get other games on TSN, but mainly Leafs. And that is all I can base my opinion on.
I don't profess to know every little stat about crosby (as you seem to be claiming that you do, and only YOU are entitled to some kind of opinion on him), and nor do I get my knowledge off of Coach's Corner segments. But I have seen a few Pitts games, and it seems like whenever crosby is checked or something there is someone there right away to protect him. I think that I have the right to my opinion, regardless if you like it or not. So don't give me that "I am better than you because I watch EVERY game" business. And please don't try to tell me who I am because you don't know who I am, or what I know, or what I do.

Your opinion does not make you an "elitist" it makes you "pig-headed" because you believe only your opinion is the correct one. Remember, everything is relative. It's all about perspective.

I refuse to apologize for my "highlight-snippet" review of him. You seem to think that the media here in TO shows crosby only in a bad light, but that is where you seem to be out of your element friend. Channels like TSN have propped crosby up like some kind of messiah. All they talk about is crosby this, and crosby that. It's like a circus surrounds him all of the time.
I remember las tyear in the all-star game, all they asked every other player was "so, what was it like playing with crosby?". Even Sakic was asked the same thing after he had 4 points and crosby had none! How do you disrespect a guy like that? It starts to wear on a person after a while. If you say that I have a "highlight-snippet" view of him, I think that you are guilty of the same thing.

It's not like I am saying that they are exaggerating his stats or anything. I am just saying that there are things in him that are lacking. And maybe if he were to improve those flaws maybe I could come to respect him a little more.

And let's not lose sight here. The whole point of my post was to say that I think that Vinnie is a more complete player than crosby. Now, you can throw all the stats at me you want, but that is not going to change my mind. Remember, this is a SUBJECTIVE survey...



Okay, my response...

You admit to not watching many Pens games, and agree that I do. Then you go on to say you have a right to your opinion, because that's what "seems" to happen in the highlights and snippets you see.

Instead of getting defensive, maybe take this time to learn something concrete and not about what "seems to be". Relatively speaking, I am an expert, so that does make my opinion more valid. In our politically correct world, we want to say everyone has an equal voice. In fact, that's not the case. I'm not pig-headed. I'm right. If that offends you, maybe you should ask yourself why you find it necessary to argue with someone about a topic you admittedly do not have a lot of knowledge about. Would you go down to the hospital and argue with a doctor about a diagnosis, and tell him "it's just his pig-headed opinion"? Or maybe, just maybe, could someone know more than you? Think about that without getting automatically defensive, because I'm not sure everything is or should be automatically subjective just to make people feel like their opinions are valid. Some things are true/not true.

As for the Kid, he is treated like a messiah in many ways, but like most Next Ones, there is also a lot of pressure to bring him down. I started another thread based on this, as a matter of fact. It's like the natural progression of a famous person - to be hyped, loved, adored, somewhat insulted, disliked, hated, and then later down the road, adored again when you make a comeback. I think it's ridiculous, so I don't fall into the trap. I watch the player and avoid the hype or hate. And if you watched this kid instead of going with what "seems" to be happening, you'd know you're wrong. Sorry, but it's true.
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Canucks Man
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Posted - 11/03/2007 :  01:13:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, this got way off topic. Yet another Sidney Crosby debat. Has the guys play on the ice not made you shut up yet? He has proved he is the best offensive player in the game so for all you who say he is a whinner, I think you are the ones who are whinning so stop being a bunch of hipocrites and get back on topic


Skating- McDonald
Shooting- Ovechkin
Intelligence- Crosby
Grit- Getzlaf
Leadership- Sakic

CANUCKS RULE!!!
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PainTrain
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Posted - 11/03/2007 :  09:24:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
CanucksMan I'm going to have to disagree with you on Getzlaf for grit. Getzlaf was taken 19th overall in his draft year. He was taken a little bit later because he can be lazy. Doesn't that remind you of Angelo Esposito, 20th overall because he's lazy. While the World Under 17 Hockey Tournament was in my hometown my father talked to one of the scouts and the scout said that for the first 30-40 players in the NHL draft year there skill is all at the same level but they pick the players who have the right attitude. Getzlaf and Esposito were taken later because of that. If they worked hard both of them would be top 5 easy.

Just a story of why Getzlaf can be lazy. When he was playing for the Calgary HItmen he was the Captain but then once he got the "C" he wasn't even trying hard and they took the "C" off of him.

Luckily for Getzlaf he's getting coached by Randy Carlyle who could really make his work ethic get better. And it helps playing with guys like Travis Moen and Rob Niedermayer who have really good work ethics.

So in terms of GRIT I do not think Ryan Getzlaf is the perfect player for that.
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Axey
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Posted - 11/03/2007 :  10:11:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Skating- Raw speed of Konstantin Koltsov, but the ambition to do something with it like Marion Gaborik
Shooting- Alex Kovalev wrist shot, the rest all Jarome Iginla
Intelligence- Sidney Crosby
Grit- Peter Forsberg (without the injury plague)
Passing- Joe Thornton
Leadership- Joe Sakic
Stick Handling- I'm thinkin' either Ovechkin or Kovalev
And hell... lets add the passion of Saku Koivu.
That my friends is the ultimate superstar.

Edited by - Axey on 11/04/2007 06:06:26
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Posted - 11/09/2007 :  21:07:41  Reply with Quote
Skating- Gaborik - He's so fast he seems to always leave his groin behind
Shooting- Kovalchuk - That wrister is a killer but everyone praises his slapper
Intelligence- Lidstrom - Not many has ever seen the game the way he does
Grit- Fisher - truly unheralded
Passing- Joe Thornton - I'll let Glen Murray tell you how good a passer he is.
Leadership- Joe Sakic - No need to explain
Stick Handling- Hemsky - dance little puck, dance. Shoot, Hemsky, shoot.

I'd be willing to swap Sakic and Lidstrom in their respective categories.

BTW, Lecavlier is an awesome player, however it is the combination of all the above that makes Vinny awesome. He would be within the top 5 in almost every categories (not top 5 in speed), but we are only picking the best of the best, so his name is rarely mentioned here.
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Bleeding Blue and White
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Posted - 12/16/2007 :  12:53:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Skating - St. Louis
Shooting - Kovalchuk
Intelligence - Lecavalier
Grit -Holmstrom
Passing- Lecavalier
Leadership - Sundin
Stick Handling - Crosby


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admin
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Canada
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Posted - 12/16/2007 :  16:17:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
EVERYONE DITCH THE CROSBY DEBATE AND STAY ON TOPIC PLEASE
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pensfan17
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Canada
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Posted - 12/16/2007 :  17:44:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Skating- Gaborik
Shooting- Kovalchuk
Intelligence- Crosby
Grit- Roberts
Leadership- Sakic
Passing- Thornton
Dangles- Gagner
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Axey
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Canada
877 Posts

Posted - 12/17/2007 :  07:14:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pensfan17

Skating- Gaborik
Shooting- Kovalchuk
Intelligence- Crosby
Grit- Roberts
Leadership- Sakic
Passing- Thornton
Dangles- Gagner


I was actually debating on changing my player to gagner .. did you see his shootout attempt the other night? Didn't score but the stickhandling was unbelieveable
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PuckNuts
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Canada
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Posted - 12/18/2007 :  07:17:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Skating- Gartner
Shooting- Hull
Intelligence- Orr
Grit- Goring
Leadership- Yzerman
Passing- Gretzky
Dangles- Lemieux

I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan


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Posted - 12/21/2007 :  09:34:48  Reply with Quote
skating- pavel bure (sick speed)

shooting- kovalchuck (beats any goalie)

intellagence- lecavalier ( amazing vision of the ice)

grit-scott steavens ( cant get more griteir than that)

leadership- joe sakic (team canada captian big acomplishment)

passing- marian hossa( him and kovalchuck are killers)

dangels- sam ganger ( absolutly sick, oh and he is proven killing almost every shootout this year)

.........nuf said
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Guest4912
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Posted - 01/08/2008 :  10:19:06  Reply with Quote
Skating- Peter Worrell (breakaway speed, smooth skating)

Shooting- Ryan Smyth (aboslute laser)

Inteligence- Donald Brashear

Grit- Wayne Gretzky (fighting machine, demon in the corners)

Leadership- Reid Simpson

Sportsmanship- Marty McSorley

Passing- Georges Laraque

Dangles- Tie Domi
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Beans15
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Posted - 01/08/2008 :  10:20:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest4912

Skating- Peter Worrell (breakaway speed, smooth skating)

Shooting- Ryan Smyth (aboslute laser)

Inteligence- Donald Brashear

Grit- Wayne Gretzky (fighting machine, demon in the corners)

Leadership- Reid Simpson

Sportsmanship- Marty McSorley

Passing- Georges Laraque

Dangles- Tie Domi



How can one think of a more perfect player. This is amazing!!!

Wayne or Bobby?? How about both!!!
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