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PainTrain
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Posted - 12/07/2007 :  10:11:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Poll Question:
Who is the one great player who didn't win the Stanley Cup but deserved it the most?

Choices:

Pat Lafontaine
Mike Gartner
Peter Stastny
Marcel Dionne
Gilbert Perreault
Darryl Sittler
Other (who?)


Edited by - Beans15 on 12/08/2007 09:42:49

PainTrain
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Posted - 12/07/2007 :  10:11:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know there is more . If you have another one please say who.

Edited by - PainTrain on 12/07/2007 10:15:47
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PuckNuts
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Canada
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Posted - 12/07/2007 :  10:26:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Adam Oates, Dale Hawerchuk, Pierre Turgeon, Jean Ratelle, Phil Housley, Norm Ullman, Bernie Nicholls, Dino Ciccarelli, Michel Goulet...

I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan



Edited by - PuckNuts on 12/08/2007 09:50:27
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hkalirah
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Posted - 12/07/2007 :  10:56:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marcel Dionne, he had that many goals on L.A. Imagine what he would have done on a team like Montreal, or Philly, etc.

Go Wings Go!
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bighockeyfan
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Canada
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Posted - 12/07/2007 :  11:06:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PainTrain

Who is the one Great Player who didn't win the Stanley Cup but deserved it the most?



Denis Savard has his name on a Cup. He was with Montreal when they won in 1993

I think Bill Gadsby should also be included in the poll
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PuckNuts
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Canada
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Posted - 12/07/2007 :  11:10:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hkalirah

Marcel Dionne, he had that many goals on L.A. Imagine what he would have done on a team like Montreal, or Philly, etc.



What was Detroit thinking when they traded him to LA? 1975 Dionne traded with Bart Crashley to Los Angeles for Terry Harper, Dan Maloney, and Jim Roberts...


I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan


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willus3
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Posted - 12/07/2007 :  11:15:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From this list I picked Perreault. He was such an exciting player to watch. He came close too.

"I'm a man of principle... or not. Whatever the situation calls for." - Alan Shore
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willus3
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Canada
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Posted - 12/07/2007 :  11:19:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PuckNuts

quote:
Originally posted by hkalirah

Marcel Dionne, he had that many goals on L.A. Imagine what he would have done on a team like Montreal, or Philly, etc.



What was Detroit thinking when they traded him to LA? 1975 Dionne traded with Bart Crashley to Los Angeles for Terry Harper, Dan Maloney, and Jim Roberts...


I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan

If I'm not mistaken Dionne requested a trade. He wasn't happy in Detroit.




"I'm a man of principle... or not. Whatever the situation calls for." - Alan Shore
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nashvillepreds
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Posted - 12/07/2007 :  12:11:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They all deserved it but I picked Dionne.

Ellis or Mason?

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Posted - 12/07/2007 :  12:56:24  Reply with Quote
hey hkalirah imagine if dionne played on a team like montreal how many cups he would have won. pts has nothing to do with it. how may pts records would lafluer have set on a team like la where there was no system.after teh 2nd period in montreal bowman had them shut it down in the 3rd for the win. didn't care if you needed a goal for a hat trick if u were lucky u get it in an empty net,.
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hkalirah
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Posted - 12/07/2007 :  13:09:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That was exactly my point. He was an amazing player on a team that was going nowhere quickly. If he was on a team like Montreal, he would have been surrounded with talent, imagine how many more cups they may have won.

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shinnyafterschool
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Canada
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Posted - 12/07/2007 :  13:27:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Curtis Joseph should have got one too, although he might not have been
great.
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Guest9378
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Posted - 12/07/2007 :  14:42:37  Reply with Quote
lets face it it 2-3 yrs we can say that mats sundin is another great without a cup ring. not a leafs fan but mats is a great player take him on my team anyday
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Greg Smith
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Posted - 12/07/2007 :  15:14:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Paintrain, take Savard off the list.
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Greg Smith
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Posted - 12/07/2007 :  15:18:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Eric Lindros maybe?
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nashvillepreds
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Posted - 12/08/2007 :  07:08:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PuckNuts

I guess 6 people do not realize that Savard won a cup, 7 if you include PainTrain...

I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan






You mean 21.

Ellis or Mason?

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Guest6234
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Posted - 12/08/2007 :  08:05:36  Reply with Quote
Jeremy Roenick is still trying apparently .. haha.


quote:
Originally posted by PuckNuts

Adam Oates, Dale Hawerchuk, Pierre Turgeon, Jean Ratelle, Phil Housley, Norm Ullman, Bernie Nicholls, Dino Ciccarelli, Jeremy Roenick, Michel Goulet...

Denis Savard won a cup with Montreal in 1993...

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Posted - 12/08/2007 :  10:35:08  Reply with Quote
I vote Trevor Linden... not because he was an amazing player (although he was back in his run with the canucks in 94 and such... but because of his heart as a player... i think those kind of players deserve the cup more than the guy with the most skill, but is still an a******... also, speaking of the canucks in 94... Pavel Bure probably deserved a cup, had it not been for the injuries and the idiotic move to florida.
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andyhack
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Japan
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Posted - 12/08/2007 :  18:05:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Brad Park, Rick Middleton, Cam Neely

Hmmm, what do all these players have in common?

Ouch. I think I need some sake!

From Shizuoka
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Guest0969
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Posted - 12/09/2007 :  10:24:09  Reply with Quote
Daryll Sittler...........................................................Go Leafs
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PainTrain
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Posted - 12/09/2007 :  12:11:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry about that one guys. I was looking through Denis Savard's profile on Wikipedia and I couldn't find anything about him winning the Stanley Cup. I should have looked harder I guess. Sorry about that.
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Posted - 12/10/2007 :  01:20:58  Reply with Quote
Clint Malarchuk This guy had balls of steel and he could have died out there
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PuckNuts
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Posted - 12/10/2007 :  09:08:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PainTrain

Sorry about that one guys. I was looking through Denis Savard's profile on Wikipedia and I couldn't find anything about him winning the Stanley Cup. I should have looked harder I guess. Sorry about that.



Wikipedia is not always correct. You, and I can become members and submit incorrect information...

Edit:

I just went to Denis Savard's info at Wikipedia, and under "NHL Playing Career" it says he won the cup...

"In 1990, Savard was traded to the Montreal Canadiens for Defenceman and future team captain Chris Chelios and a second-round pick (Mike Pomichter) on June 29, 1990. Savard won the Stanley Cup with the Canadiens in 1993. He was soon traded to the Tampa Bay Lightning, where he played 2 seasons. On April 6, 1995 Savard was traded back to Chicago, for a 1996 sixth-round pick (Xavier Delisle)."

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Edited by - PuckNuts on 12/10/2007 09:13:27
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LeafsFan4Life
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Posted - 12/10/2007 :  10:12:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
sittler because he was on the greatest canadian team

Long Live Hockey
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PainTrain
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Posted - 12/10/2007 :  14:49:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PuckNuts

quote:
Originally posted by PainTrain

Sorry about that one guys. I was looking through Denis Savard's profile on Wikipedia and I couldn't find anything about him winning the Stanley Cup. I should have looked harder I guess. Sorry about that.



Wikipedia is not always correct. You, and I can become members and submit incorrect information...

Edit:

I just went to Denis Savard's info at Wikipedia, and under "NHL Playing Career" it says he won the cup...

"In 1990, Savard was traded to the Montreal Canadiens for Defenceman and future team captain Chris Chelios and a second-round pick (Mike Pomichter) on June 29, 1990. Savard won the Stanley Cup with the Canadiens in 1993. He was soon traded to the Tampa Bay Lightning, where he played 2 seasons. On April 6, 1995 Savard was traded back to Chicago, for a 1996 sixth-round pick (Xavier Delisle)."

I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan






PuckNuts, I get it I made a mistake. Can we just forget about it?
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Guest8370
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Posted - 12/11/2007 :  05:11:37  Reply with Quote
Cam Neely is the greatest player never to win a cup
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Guest1759
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Posted - 12/11/2007 :  09:32:13  Reply with Quote
One of the greatest goalies NOT to have won a cup would have to be the Russian goalie VLADISLAV TRETIAK
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Guest8062
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Posted - 12/11/2007 :  18:21:12  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest1759

One of the greatest goalies NOT to have won a cup would have to be the Russian goalie VLADISLAV TRETIAK


Tretiak never played in the Nhl, otherwise he probably would have won one.
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Posted - 12/12/2007 :  08:43:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I voted Sittler - but I think Dionne, Cicarelli, Gartner, Neely are just as deserving.

As another here posted, in three years you can add Sundin to the list.
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willus3
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Posted - 12/12/2007 :  09:00:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would have to agree with Andyhack and say Brad Park. Just a phenomenal defenceman who came very close to the cup several times. Close but no cigar seems to sum up Park's career. Close to winning the Norris, close to winning the cup...

"I'm a man of principle... or not. Whatever the situation calls for." - Alan Shore
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Posted - 12/12/2007 :  20:47:12  Reply with Quote
I think Bure - I have never seen another player that exciting - before he broke his leg, his skill and speed were unparalelled - and ultimately, unrewarded...
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Posted - 12/14/2007 :  11:19:17  Reply with Quote
Wendel Clark - ALL HEART
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Posted - 12/14/2007 :  18:16:46  Reply with Quote
Stastny collected the highest total point in the 80's behind the great one.he have been a target for others team because he was one of the first european toplay in the NHL.He was the heart and soul of the Nordique because he sow up every games on every shifts.Areal competitor.
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Posted - 01/17/2008 :  10:22:17  Reply with Quote
bure and eric lindros where two of the best to never win a stanly cup they both had loads of talent but always came up short. eric carried his team to the finals numerous times and with the legion of doom you thought they could of had and answer for the cup but it never happend.
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hkalirah
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Posted - 01/17/2008 :  10:39:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
eric carried his team to the finals numerous times


The Flyers only made the Finals once with Eric, and got beat by the wings 4-0.

Go Wings Go!
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Alex
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Posted - 01/17/2008 :  14:18:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marcel Dionne was also great, he took a bad team far, but they never won...

Habs get number 25 this year
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Guest4912
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Posted - 01/18/2008 :  09:20:03  Reply with Quote
ya there just like your beloved dead things boom and bust
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Tony O!!!
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Posted - 03/16/2010 :  00:42:34  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest4049

Tony O!!! (Esposito that is)

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Posted - 03/16/2010 :  05:56:39  Reply with Quote
Marcel Dionne played 18 years and 1348 games without getting close to the cup. Meanwhile his 19 year old younger brother Gilbert won a Stanley Cup in only his second year in the league.

He was picked second overall to Guy Lafleur in the 1971 Draft. Can you even imagine the amount of cups that pick cost him?

Met him once, great guy and an all time small guy HOF'er at 5'8" and when he retired he was #2 overall in points.
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Gusteroni
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Posted - 03/16/2010 :  08:44:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by slozo

I voted Sittler - but I think Dionne, Cicarelli, Gartner, Neely are just as deserving.

As another here posted, in three years you can add Sundin to the list.



Hasn't been exactly three years but I'm going to add Sundin to this list anyway. A great captain and a great player that defected in order to capture a cup, it's too bad he didn't realize that the Canucks didn't have a chance last year. The Stanley Cup was the prize I wanted him and the Leafs to win for years and to this day I'm still dreaming of it happening.

When Hell freezes over, I'll play hockey there too.
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