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Alex
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 Posted - 12/12/2007 : 14:02:44
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Poll Question:
Of the following NHL records, which is the most likely to be broken in the near future?
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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 12/12/2007 : 14:04:25
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I think that the most likely is Howe's record, if you start from 18 years old and play 27 seasons, that takes you to forty-five years old. Extreme, but it doesn't take the most talent.
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Alex
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Posted - 12/12/2007 : 14:11:49
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Rookie points can be done, I don't think soon. The closest active player was Ovie with 106. Not that close, but makes us believe it is reasonable to believe it may one day be broken.
Season high points, f'get about it. No one will ever average over 2.5 PPG game again. Not ever.
Season goals, I don't think so, but it can be done. Not likely, I would not bet my money that it happens in the next 50 years. Brett Hull got 86 in 90-91 though, so you never know. It was before the game really changed though.
Season assists, not likely. Lemieux got 114 in '88 - '89 but that is a long way off of 163. No one gets close to 130 points, you expect 164 assists?
PIM. Schultz missed more than 5 games in penalties. It can happen again, and only because this does not take skill to do. Or does it? Ha.
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PuckNuts
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Canada
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Posted - 12/12/2007 : 14:12:49
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If you do not have talent then you are not going to last, who is going to keep a weak player on their team at 40+ in todays game. There are too many young players chomping at the bit to get into the NHL...
Chelios has to finish this season, play a complete next season, then in the following season in his 57th game he will pass Howe, But I do not think he will play that long...
Out of the ones that you listed I would say that the 472 PIM is the most likely...
I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan
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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
Canada
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Posted - 12/12/2007 : 14:14:33
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I didn't add goalie records because Brodeur would run away with this one. And even if you don't like his chances, which you have to, he will obviously not retire until he breaks Ryo's wins and Sawchuck's SO records, even if it means he plays until 45, that gives him 11 more years! Imagine.
But even after him, as the game gets more and more defensive minded, less and less offensive records will be broken. More and more defensive records will be.
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PuckNuts
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Canada
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Posted - 12/12/2007 : 14:17:22
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Who will be the next goalie to start 502 consecutive games?
I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan
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Devils Fanatic
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Posted - 12/12/2007 : 15:21:14
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quote:
Originally posted by PuckNuts
Who will be the next goalie to start 502 consecutive games?
I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan
Martin Brodeur could easily have done that by now if the coaches and management would let him. With him being older I'm sure that record is not going to be broken.
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Guest7007
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Posted - 12/12/2007 : 17:31:19
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How about Jarvis record of 900+ consecutive games. That's 10+ seasons without missing a game. Skartishin (sp?) was at ~500 games. That's Cal Ripken or Favre like in the game of hockey.
Nowadays, with the precaution the coach, management and trainers take and the size of the players, not going to happen. |
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PuckNuts
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 12/12/2007 : 17:48:00
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Originally posted by Alex
Who is the current holder of that record? 
Glenn Hall without a mask...
sp: two n's in Glenn...
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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
Canada
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Posted - 12/12/2007 : 19:41:19
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What is the story with Jarvis? If it is true, you realize that 900 games is close to an entire career? After you finally permanently crack the roster, by like age 20, you can't miss a game for NINE years. No WAY someone can do that. (Twice)
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Guest7007
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Posted - 12/12/2007 : 20:16:03
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Originally posted by Alex
What is the story with Jarvis? If it is true, you realize that 900 games is close to an entire career? After you finally permanently crack the roster, by like age 20, you can't miss a game for NINE years. No WAY someone can do that. (Twice)
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From Wiki:
"Doug Jarvis is the NHL's record holder in consecutive games played with 964 — breaking the previous record, set by centre Garry Unger, of 914".
Between 1975-1987, he did not miss a game. So no way someone can do it 3 times then huh (considering Unger is at 914)? And yes, that was his entire NHL career, 964 games. |
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willus3
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Posted - 12/12/2007 : 21:01:42
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Steve Larmer has the third longest streak at 884 games. The only reason his streak ended there was because he requested a trade and the Hawks didn't get a deal done until a dozen or so games into the next season. He wasn't injured so really I think his streak is at least 952 as he played the rest of that season with the Rangers and didn't miss a game.
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PuckNuts
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 12/12/2007 : 21:34:32
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Originally posted by Alex
That's an amazing feat. But it isn't in the Hockey Hall of Fame website...
Take a look at his stats, 1955-56 they played 70 games, they never played more than 70 untill the 1967-68 season.
Year Team GP Min GA W L T SO AVG
1952-53 Detroit Red Wings 6 360 10 4 1 1 1 1.67
1954-55 Detroit Red Wings 2 120 2 2 0 0 0 1.00
1955-56 Detroit Red Wings 70 4200 148 30 24 16 12 2.11
1956-57 Detroit Red Wings 70 4200 157 38 20 12 4 2.24
1957-58 Chicago Blackhawks 70 4200 202 24 39 7 7 2.89
1958-59 Chicago Blackhawks 70 4200 208 28 29 13 1 2.97
1959-60 Chicago Blackhawks 70 4200 180 28 29 13 6 2.57
1960-61 Chicago Blackhawks 70 4200 180 29 24 17 6 2.57
1961-62 Chicago Blackhawks 70 4200 186 31 26 13 9 2.66
1962-63 Chicago Blackhawks 66 3910 166 30 20 15 5 2.55
1963-64 Chicago Blackhawks 65 3860 148 34 19 11 7 2.30
1964-65 Chicago Blackhawks 41 2440 99 18 17 5 4 2.43
1965-66 Chicago Blackhawks 64 3747 164 34 21 7 4 2.63
1966-67 Chicago Blackhawks 32 1664 66 19 5 5 2 2.38
1967-68 St. Louis Blues 49 2858 118 19 21 9 5 2.48
1968-69 St. Louis Blues 41 2354 85 19 12 8 8 2.17
1969-70 St. Louis Blues 18 1010 49 7 8 3 1 2.91
1970-71 St. Louis Blues 32 1761 71 13 11 8 2 2.42
NHL Totals 906 53484 2239 407 326 163 84 2.51
Glenn "Mr Goalie" Hall was born on October 3, 1931 in Humboldt, Saskatchewan, Canada. He played his minor hockey in the Western Hockey League and after a couple of short NHL stints, made the Detroit Red Wings lineup as their starting goalie in 1955, replacing the great Terry Sawchuk. Glenn Hall was first to master the butterfly style of goaltending. As a young goalie he often found himself beaten by shots through the five hole (between his legs). But he lacked strength in his arms to keep his stick on the ice so he began dropping down to his knees to stop the low shots. He worked on the butterfly through the minors and perfected it during his NHL career. (Before Roy was born...)
In his first full season Glenn Hall played all 70 games and led the National Hockey League with 12 shutouts and won the Calder Trophy as the league's best rookie. He would continue to stop pucks for a total of 502 straight games, a record for consecutive games played by a goalie that still stands to this day. Just as Hall was establishing himself as an NHL all-star in Detroit, he was traded in 1957 along with Ted Lindsay to the Chicago Blackhawks for John Wilson, Forbes Kennedy, William Preston and Hank Bassen. Hall played in net for the Blackhawks for five straight seasons and helped them win a Stanley Cup along the way in 1961. His consecutive games played streak came to an end in 1962 due to a strained back muscle he sustained attaching a toe strap.
In 1967 the St. Louis Blues selected Glenn Hall in the expansion draft. He helped lead the Blues all the way to the Stanley Cup finals in 1968 and won the Conn Smythe trophy as the playoff MVP even though the Blues lost to the Montreal Canadiens. Hall continued to share the goaltending duties in St Louis with Jacques Plante and retired from hockey in 1971. In 1975 he was inducted into the Hockey Hall of fame.
Search him on the net, you will find all kinds of info...
I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan
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Guest4912
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Posted - 12/13/2007 : 08:09:28
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Leafsfan_94
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Posted - 01/17/2008 : 17:08:42
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i'd say selanne's record cuz theres sum good upcoming rookiesthat have the talent to break that record
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Leafsfan_94
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Posted - 01/20/2008 : 11:22:40
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true, but still i have a feeling theres soon going to be some good rookies, just my opinions
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Guest9905
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Posted - 01/24/2008 : 11:20:40
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| It's a shame that Gretzky was ineligible to be considered an NHL rookie due to his stint in the WHA. He scored 137 points and tied for the NHL lead in his first NHL season. That would have been another record to add to his list. They later changed that silly rule. |
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nashvillepreds
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Posted - 01/24/2008 : 11:31:59
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If someone really wanted to, they can get 600 penalty minutes. Easiest record to beat for sure.
Ellis or Mason?
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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 01/24/2008 : 11:51:33
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Originally posted by nashvillepreds
If someone really wanted to, they can get 600 penalty minutes. Easiest record to beat for sure.
Ellis or Mason?
Go Preds Go!
What coach would allow a player to be a liability to his team by going out on the ice and making a team shorthanded for the equivalent of ten games!
Consevatively, someone who averages 5.8 PIM/game could get 473 minutes. You know how hard that is? And which goon plays a full 82 game season?!
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nashvillepreds
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Posted - 01/24/2008 : 11:54:32
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Lots of goons play at least 75 games per season. Heard of Chris Neil? Donald Brashear? Georges Larauque? Sean Avery?
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Alex
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Posted - 01/24/2008 : 11:59:37
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75 is not 82 Nash. You need to get more than one major penalty per game for an entire season! That can't be done today!
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nashvillepreds
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Posted - 01/24/2008 : 12:17:54
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Yes it can. It can be done. There is a player on Pheonix this season with 5.1 penalty minutes per game. his name is Daniel Carcillo.
Ellis or Mason?
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Alex
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Posted - 01/24/2008 : 12:26:40
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OK, is that 5.7 ? And do you expect that to keep up? And how many games has he played?
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nashvillepreds
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Posted - 01/24/2008 : 12:28:25
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33 games because of injuries.
Ellis or Mason?
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Alex
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Posted - 01/24/2008 : 12:32:45
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My point proven. He would need about 7. something minutes to get the record this season!
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nashvillepreds
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Posted - 01/24/2008 : 12:37:52
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And you're expecting, what exactly, Kovalchuk to score 93? Coffey to play 26 seasons?
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Alex
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Posted - 01/24/2008 : 12:46:04
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Rookie points is more likely, Ovie got 106 in the new NHL.
And more likely than that is seasons played, Chelios and SUndin could make a run for that record, you just have to play from 18 yrs. old to 45, it's very doable.
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hkalirah
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Posted - 01/24/2008 : 15:19:04
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38 year old Brendan Shanahan can make a run for the games record as well. I think it's the most likely to be beat.
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Alex
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Posted - 01/24/2008 : 15:40:04
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On another note, look how much Shanahan can do in the next few years. The record you mentioned, pass a lot of people in goals (he is 1st among active players with career goals), probably can do more that I'm not aware of.
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