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SuperSakic
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 Posted - 01/22/2008 : 07:54:11
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Did anyone catch the game last night on TSN? I did, and boy was I sickened by the commentary!
It was such a good game, but it was tainted for me by all of the "crosby this" and "crosby that" throughout the whole game! You'd figure it would give the other players a chance to step into the spotlight for a chance. But nope! All I got to hear was "no one can do it like crosby", or "if the best player in the world were here...". Can these commentators not talk about the players who are actually playing the friggin' game!?
Did anyone else find that the TSN guys have their heads up crosby's @$$ just a bit much?
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Guest4590
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Posted - 01/22/2008 : 08:21:06
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| Yes I agree and they give Ovechkin quite a bit of credit but not as much they give Crosby. My opion is that Malkin is right up there with Crosby and Ovechkin. |
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Guest4912
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Posted - 01/22/2008 : 09:11:43
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| good point, but honestly, Crosby is the best is better then both Malkin and Ovechkin, I agree tho. That they do talk too much about him |
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Guest9655
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Posted - 01/22/2008 : 09:45:59
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Originally posted by Guest4912
good point, but honestly, Crosby is the best is better then both Malkin and Ovechkin, I agree tho. That they do talk too much about him
Better in what sense? At crying like a baby? He can't seem to score regularly. If you take his assists away he's nothing but a sub-par player. The next Gretzky my @$$! At least Gretzky could score! |
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leigh
Moderator
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Posted - 01/22/2008 : 11:52:57
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| I missed the game, I can imagine what you're saying to be true. But I did see the highlights and they gave Ovechkin and Malkin their due. They talked like it was the Ovechkin/Malkin show! I wish I saw the game, it looked like a dandy by the highlights! That "almost" hit by Ovechkin on Malkin was incredible! And all 4 goals by these young lads were beautiful. Both those guys looked like they were possessed! I'm looking forward to Malkin stepping it up even further and making the team his in Crosby's absence. |
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hkalirah
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 01/22/2008 : 12:11:02
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I believe the commentators were not from TSN, as TSN was getting their feed from Versus.
I think one of the commentators was Darren Pang, but I'm not sure who the other guy was.
With that said, I watched the game, and while there was some Sydney talk, I do recall them talking a lot about other players such as Ovechkin, Kozlov, Malkin, Malone, Letang, and Backstrom.
Like it or not, Crosby is the biggest star in the game right now, and his absence is huge.
Even if Jim Hughson was calling the game, he would be talking about Crosby and his injury. I mention Hughson because I think he's the most unbiased comentator I know.
Go Wings Go! |
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PENSFAN8771
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Posted - 01/22/2008 : 12:38:03
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That may be the case on TSN, but the Pittsburgh media didn't make that the story.
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/penguins/s_548597.html
But in all seriousness, why shouldn't Crosby be the story?
No team has been hotter over the last 30 days than the Penguins and then our star goes down and we drop 2 of 3 to Southeast division teams. Sounds like a story to me.
The media and the league has staked their hockey fortunes (or perhaps misfortunes) on Sidney Crosby. His jersey has been the highest selling for quite some time now. Like it or not, the media outlets are also losing because Crosby's out. Think about the dollars that they are losing because of fewer viewers and thus lower ratings. If you don't believe me, let's see which Penguins game has better attendence, Tuesday, Dec. 11 at Philly (19,409) or this Thursday night at Philly. Lower jersey sales, lower TV ratings, lower attendance. Sounds like a story to me.
I agree that everyone wants to talk about Crosby Crosby Crosby and it's annoying. But that doesn't make it less newsworthy.
A final note, anyone that thinks that he's not that good because "he doesn't score" doesn't watch nearly enough hockey to be worthy of making that statement. Watch the kid play, don't watch the stats leaders and you'll see him do things no one else in the league can. I'm not saying he's God, or that he has the hardest shot, or that he overpowers everyone else. Far from it. He tries to split defensive pairings when most would try to take it to the corner - and succeeds. He'll be skating down the ice and be tied up by a Chara or a Pronger and still get a good shot off. He makes opportunities on the ice in a way that no one else in today's game can. He is one of the most well conditioned athletes in the world and it is evident when you carefully watch him play. Sometimes the assists and the opportunities created are better than the goals themselves. I think the experienced players on here realize this, even if you dislike Crosby's fanfare. When I was at a game last week, I heard his reaction to a penalty call very appropriately described as resembling "Dennis the Menace" by a Ranger's fan and laughed with him. His shortcomings are the ways he reacts to things after the whistle blows, not what he does when the clock is running. |
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irvine
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Posted - 01/22/2008 : 16:16:48
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I watched the entire game. It was great. Another four point night for Backstrom! back to back 4 assist nights. This kid is also good.
With Crosby out, as I mentioned in a previous post in a different form, expect Malkin to step it up. And he has. Last night it was the Russian face off! Ovechkin VS Malkin, not Ovechkin VS Crosby. And it was just as entertaining, if not more.
Though, I will admit. It may have even been better if it were Crosby VS Ovechkin, Malkin VS Backstrom. :P
But it was a great game none-the-less. Malkin is the pens, at this time. And he's proving with or without Crosby, he's talented.
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Guest6916
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Posted - 01/22/2008 : 18:22:45
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With Crosby out of course it is news, I get that! But this is also a blessing for all of us that are sick of hearing about him all the time. What I mean is that now Ovechkin is going to get more sunshine. Malkin is going to get more icetime and therefore more media attention. Basically a whole bunch of other stars are going to have a chance to steel some of the spotlight and climb a few rungs up the foodchain. It's good for hockey in the long run! Viva la Crosby Injury!!!  |
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Beans15
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Posted - 01/22/2008 : 19:12:03
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I was at a lounge watching this game and the sound was not on. It was one of the most entertaining games I have seen in a long time. I didn't hear a single part of the commentary.
A very serious suggestion: Watch a game without the sound. It gives you a totally different perspective on the game. It's pretty cool because it's your own perspective, not something talked into you by the commentators.
Wayne or Bobby?? How about both!!! |
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Guest9656
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Posted - 01/23/2008 : 07:28:35
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Originally posted by PENSFAN8771
That may be the case on TSN, but the Pittsburgh media didn't make that the story.
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/penguins/s_548597.html
But in all seriousness, why shouldn't Crosby be the story?
No team has been hotter over the last 30 days than the Penguins and then our star goes down and we drop 2 of 3 to Southeast division teams. Sounds like a story to me.
The media and the league has staked their hockey fortunes (or perhaps misfortunes) on Sidney Crosby. His jersey has been the highest selling for quite some time now. Like it or not, the media outlets are also losing because Crosby's out. Think about the dollars that they are losing because of fewer viewers and thus lower ratings. If you don't believe me, let's see which Penguins game has better attendence, Tuesday, Dec. 11 at Philly (19,409) or this Thursday night at Philly. Lower jersey sales, lower TV ratings, lower attendance. Sounds like a story to me.
I agree that everyone wants to talk about Crosby Crosby Crosby and it's annoying. But that doesn't make it less newsworthy.
A final note, anyone that thinks that he's not that good because "he doesn't score" doesn't watch nearly enough hockey to be worthy of making that statement. Watch the kid play, don't watch the stats leaders and you'll see him do things no one else in the league can. I'm not saying he's God, or that he has the hardest shot, or that he overpowers everyone else. Far from it. He tries to split defensive pairings when most would try to take it to the corner - and succeeds. He'll be skating down the ice and be tied up by a Chara or a Pronger and still get a good shot off. He makes opportunities on the ice in a way that no one else in today's game can. He is one of the most well conditioned athletes in the world and it is evident when you carefully watch him play. Sometimes the assists and the opportunities created are better than the goals themselves. I think the experienced players on here realize this, even if you dislike Crosby's fanfare. When I was at a game last week, I heard his reaction to a penalty call very appropriately described as resembling "Dennis the Menace" by a Ranger's fan and laughed with him. His shortcomings are the ways he reacts to things after the whistle blows, not what he does when the clock is running.
It seemed like it is that kind of play that caused the injury in the first place. Wasn't he trying to score from his ass or something? It seems like he goes down to make all of his plays. He is doing these things cause he's young and thinks he's indestructible. Seasoned players know how to play well and still remain injury-free (for the most part). They have gone through those trials and tribulations and have learned not to be reckless. Mark my word. After another injury like this we are going to see a lot less of crosby's "amazing" style of play. It happened to Lemieux... |
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PENSFAN8771
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Posted - 01/25/2008 : 11:47:32
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Originally posted by Guest9656
It seemed like it is that kind of play that caused the injury in the first place. Wasn't he trying to score from his ass or something? It seems like he goes down to make all of his plays. He is doing these things cause he's young and thinks he's indestructible. Seasoned players know how to play well and still remain injury-free (for the most part). They have gone through those trials and tribulations and have learned not to be reckless. Mark my word. After another injury like this we are going to see a lot less of crosby's "amazing" style of play. It happened to Lemieux...
You've gotta be kidding about the Lemieux comment on the end there or just never watched his career. Sure he was hampered by physical difficulties later in his career: It's called cancer. Even in his final portion of a year (when he was 40 years old) he averaged nearly a point a game and had some brilliant plays that were still highlight worthy. In his last nearly full season, he had nearly 1.4 points per game. Sure these don't compare to his prime, but age will do that. Gretzky wasn't putting up 100+ point seasons in his late 30s either and he had fewer physical barriers to overcome.
And Crosby, before this injury, had played essentially injury free, missing just 5 games while playing more aggressively going to the net than anyone else in the league. If you watched Sid's press conference when they announced he would be out for 6 weeks, he talked about how he had remained injury free very descriptively on plays like the one he was injured on, which occur multiple times a game for him. Injuries do happen, it is part of the game. When Sid gets back out there, he will keep doing the same thing. Hopefully he waits until he's healthy to comeback. On a final note, he is one of the best conditioned players in the game. Those who play competitively know that alone is extremely important in staying healthy. |
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Guest8332
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Posted - 01/25/2008 : 12:27:42
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Beans that is funny I feel exactly the same way, A few years back there was a cbc strike in Quebec and there were no broadcasters or color guys doing the games, you could only hear the crowd noise.
Was it ever great!! I had been watching the leafs and soon switched back to the montreal game just because of this.
Maybe a network should give it a try and see how other people like it!!
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Guest9656
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Posted - 01/28/2008 : 13:34:39
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Let me just say this: Lemieux was an amazing player! THE most I would even say...What that said....
The injuries took their effect (not just the cancer). His style of play became less flash and more about just getting the puck in the net. That is what I was referring to in my previous comment. I don't argue about his points. They speak for themselves. But I just didn't see the magnificent style of play that I saw in the late 80's and early 90's....There weren't a lot of "Oh my god! How the hell did he do that!" - type move.
Crosby WILL adjust his style of play... |
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Guest9656
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Posted - 01/28/2008 : 13:35:26
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Originally posted by Guest9656
Let me just say this: Lemieux was an amazing player! THE most I would even say...With that said....
The injuries took their effect (not just the cancer). His style of play became less flash and more about just getting the puck in the net. That is what I was referring to in my previous comment. I don't argue about his points. They speak for themselves. But I just didn't see the magnificent style of play that I saw in the late 80's and early 90's....There weren't a lot of "Oh my god! How the hell did he do that!" - type move.
Crosby WILL adjust his style of play...
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