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leigh
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Posted - 01/04/2009 :  14:47:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am absolutely blown away at how pathetic the current All-Star voting system is. Having fans determine how the lineup should look drives me crazy!

4 Habs starting for the East. You can't honestly think that the hockey world wants FOUR Canadiens to start. Good on the Hab fans to mobilize their voting force to pull this off, but in no way, shape, or form is this representative of the way the hockey universe feels! AND no Ovechkin starting in the east?!?! Seriously?!?! Now look at the West...guys like Iginla, Thornton and Datsyuk aren't starting. That's just crazy!

What they need to do is go back to the old system of coaches and the media voting AND have the fans vote too, but collectively their votes only count as 1 or 2 votes in the whole system. Because right now, this is terrible! It is truly a joke!

HockeyFan64
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Posted - 01/04/2009 :  14:52:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I totaly agree. theres only two different teams for both confrences. 4 habs and 2 penguins for east and 3 ducks and 3 blackhawks. Dont get me wrong kane, crosby, malkin, campbell, and markov deserve spots but i dont think the others deserve top spots
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Porkchop73
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Posted - 01/04/2009 :  14:59:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I almost remember when the All Star game was a great game to watch. Now it is a pathetic "americanized" show the represents little to do with hockey. The voting system is ridiculous, how on earth is one the leagues best players (Ovechkin) not a starter. What a joke. Thank you Gary Bettman for destroying another tradition in OUR game.
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willus3
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Posted - 01/04/2009 :  17:00:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Porkchop73

I almost remember when the All Star game was a great game to watch. Now it is a pathetic "americanized" show the represents little to do with hockey. The voting system is ridiculous, how on earth is one the leagues best players (Ovechkin) not a starter. What a joke. Thank you Gary Bettman for destroying another tradition in OUR game.


Well put!



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Posted - 01/04/2009 :  17:52:37  Reply with Quote
I agree 100%. What kind of garbage is this! I think bringing back the Jets would solve everything.
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Leafsfan_94
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Posted - 01/04/2009 :  18:03:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
West:
Kane
Toews
Campbell
Getzlaf
Niedermayer
Giguere

hmmm lets see..... the starting lineup is ALL DUCKS AND HAWKS players

East:
Crosby
Malkin
Kovalev
Markov
Komisarek
Price

hmmm lets see..... the starting line ip is ALL HABS AND PENS

Price, had the most votes of any goalie in NHL history..... WHATS UP WITH THAT, habs fans obviously have nothing better to do than vote their players a gagillion times..

this is stupid, the all star game used to be a mix of players not just players from two teams in your starting line up



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Lunchbox
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Posted - 01/04/2009 :  22:22:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree! The problem is the NHL trying to pick up the casual fan...someone who has no interest in watching a game if their team's not in it. Whereas, a true hockey fan can watch any two teams play each other and enjoy the merits of the game...not just players from their favourite teams. But what this strategy does is tarnish the true idea of an allstar game....Why not just call it the Fan-Favourite game then...or the Semi-star game.

An interesting thing to point out is how low the players from Tampa, Phoenix, Florida, and other non-traditional markets were voted for. No stars worth voting for or maybe just general low interest from these "fan bases" Might be something the NHL should look at.
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Posted - 01/05/2009 :  00:22:43  Reply with Quote
I'm a habs fan and personally I am confused why habs fans voted for so many habs players; we get to see them play every night! I'd rather vote to see some great players play that we don't get to see as much. That being said, Price definitely deserves the start for the east. He is 16-4-5 on the season where as without price montreal is 6-6-1. The only goalies with records better or close to that in the east play for Boston... and Boston is just insane this year so I don't think it matters who they have in net.
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Pasty7
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Posted - 01/05/2009 :  09:26:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i'm a habs fan and here is how i voted in the east...

Ovechkin
Malkin
Tanguay

Chara
Markov

Lundquvist

i think this is a very un bias vote the only player i voted for that shouldn;t have i feel is tanguay but in my deffence i voted for Tanguay very early on when he he was on a tear and i thought he would keep it up,,,, so please be carefull when you put all us habs fan in the same pot,,

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Posted - 01/05/2009 :  09:38:28  Reply with Quote
altough it is not really representative of the "stars" in the game at this point of the season, this voting system DID get the "casual" viewer to the vote, didn't it?? look how much you guys are talking about it, and look at how many "voters" got to talking about it, Betman's got something right as far as getting casual viewers interested and talking. All he needs to do now is get the right players on the starting lineups.
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leigh
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Posted - 01/05/2009 :  10:16:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pasty7

,,, so please be carefull when you put all us habs fan in the same pot...

Hey Pasty, your voting was obviously well thought out and not biased. But to be clear I didn't lump all Habs fans into "the same pot". I just said that Habs fans were mobilized. I mean, who else would it be? Maple Leaf and Canuck fans don't vote for this many Habs. I simply made a comment based on a common sense assumption. The same assumption could be made that last year that it was Vancouver fans who voted for Rory Fitzpatrick. This doesn't mean that all Canuck fans thought it was a good idea.
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CaliforniaSeal
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Posted - 01/05/2009 :  17:20:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I went to the fan balloting online and as soon as I saw the message "You can vote as often as you like" I thought...Oh great, are we going to get another Willie Mitchell swarm of votes or some other ridiculous scenario. It's a ridiculous system and if they have it again next year I will personally vote in one of the worst players 100,000.000 times

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Posted - 01/05/2009 :  17:35:01  Reply with Quote
iginla isnt an all star player hes to boring
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Gostarsgo12
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Posted - 01/05/2009 :  17:40:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest5898

iginla isnt an all star player hes to boring



I believe that was Sean Avery speaking.
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Posted - 01/05/2009 :  20:14:20  Reply with Quote
And the broken record plays on... In total agreement here. It's a completely screwed up system. I mean if you look at the sizes of each market alone, then you'll see how skewed the results could be:

For Example
Montreal population - 1.6 million, Quebec Population - 7.5 million
Atlanta population - 0.5 million, Georgia Population - 4.6 million

How can Bettman expect fans from Atlanta to get excited about an all star game they have virtually no chance of voting their best player into. That's not even taking into account the interest levels in the two cities. Of course you're going to end up with skewed results, you'd only have to get a quarter of the population of montreal to vote once and you'd still need 80% of the people in Atlanta to match that.

And then once you turn it into a pissing match all the respect for the all star game itself goes out the window. Fans are just trying to prove they're better fans.

What a joke. whoever said it should be renamed the fan favourite game was right on the money. C'mon Komisarek? Granted a great defenceman but Yeah we really want to see a checking defensive defenseman with 3 pts in the all-star game, I'm sure he'll be laying out some huge hits that night...

Could go on all night....
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Posted - 01/05/2009 :  20:20:47  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest0906

And the broken record plays on... In total agreement here. It's a completely screwed up system. I mean if you look at the sizes of each market alone, then you'll see how skewed the results could be:

For Example
Montreal population - 1.6 million, Quebec Population - 7.5 million
Atlanta population - 0.5 million, Georgia Population - 4.6 million

How can Bettman expect fans from Atlanta to get excited about an all star game they have virtually no chance of voting their best player into. That's not even taking into account the interest levels in the two cities. Of course you're going to end up with skewed results, you'd only have to get a quarter of the population of montreal to vote once and you'd still need 80% of the people in Atlanta to match that.

And then once you turn it into a pissing match all the respect for the all star game itself goes out the window. Fans are just trying to prove they're better fans.

What a joke. whoever said it should be renamed the fan favourite game was right on the money. C'mon Komisarek? Granted a great defenceman but Yeah we really want to see a checking defensive defenseman with 3 pts in the all-star game, I'm sure he'll be laying out some huge hits that night...

Could go on all night....


so what?
All the voters are going to be the ones watching the game anyway. Why shouldn't they have the privilage of watching who they voted for?
Why should Atlanta have more say in who plays over Montreal?? There are almost 7 million people going to watch that game in Quebec, while only 12 people watching in Atlanta... Why NOT have Montrealers dictate who THEY will watch...
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Axey
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Posted - 01/05/2009 :  22:26:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Folks, lets all chill. Its not the entir lineup, its the starting lineup. In other words the first 45 seconds if that. All of these players except Komisarek and Kovalev are legit. Also I don't like the Scott Niedermayer vote as well. Much more deserving ppl. Yes some goalies deserve it more then Carey Price. But the guy has 15 wins 4 losses and an awesome gaa and Save %. Gimme a break the others that are deserving to be there will be.

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Posted - 01/06/2009 :  05:28:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Guest 0906 - you have your stats a little skewed . . .
Yes, technically Atlanta "proper" has a pop. of half a million, but the greater metropolitan area (which anyone would actually count as Atlanta) has a pop. of over 5 million. Atlanta has a population well over 9 million . . .
. . . of which aproximately 67 watch Thrashers hockey

To the point that Leigh makes - I totally agree, the system is screwed! And shame on Habs fans for being the pathetic homers that they are, instead of true hockey fans . . . it only shows how ignorant as fans they are. How some idiots could pick any player over Ovechkin is beyond me . . . this shames the game of hockey.

After all the abuse that Toronto fans get, where is all the moral outrage against these fans that voted in the Habs-beens?!?

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Posted - 01/06/2009 :  09:14:03  Reply with Quote
Yeah 0906's numbers are a bit skewed for atlanta, but I think the point was that the starting lineup of the ALL-STAR game should not be decided by the city with the biggest most rabid fan base. And that it was almost like the fans voting didn't even care about who they got in, montreal fans just wanted to beat pittsburgh fans and get their guys in, and vice versa...

I wonder what an all-star game would look like if fans couldn't vote for a player on their own team. I know it's sounds crazy, because pittsburgh fans wouldn't be able to vote Crosby or Malkin, but it would certainly bear interesting results. Where would all those montreal votes have gone. Maybe you'd see a starting lineup of Ovechkin, Savard and Parise or Gagne, maybe all those Gonchar votes would have gone to a deserving Markov, and he'd still end up in the back with say Mark Streit. And in the west, maybe all those Neidermayer votes would have gone to Boyle or Weber, and the Toews votes would have gone to Iginla or Thornton... who knows. JS Giguere hasn't even played as well as Hiller, those votes could have gone to Backstrom. not like it'll ever happen but an interesting thought experiment nonetheless.

Either way the system as it stands doesn't work.
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Beans15
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Posted - 01/06/2009 :  11:03:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Axey

Folks, lets all chill. Its not the entir lineup, its the starting lineup. In other words the first 45 seconds if that. All of these players except Komisarek and Kovalev are legit. Also I don't like the Scott Niedermayer vote as well. Much more deserving ppl. Yes some goalies deserve it more then Carey Price. But the guy has 15 wins 4 losses and an awesome gaa and Save %. Gimme a break the others that are deserving to be there will be.

Chicago Blackhawks GM

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The problem is not that it's the starting line up, it's the fact that a player could make the All Star team by getting voted in by the fans, even thought the player has no business being there.

Using the example last year of the whole Rory Fitzpatrick thing. The guy almost got voted on, which would have taken away a spot of a deserving all star.

I will wait to see who the rest of the all stars will be this year to knock the crap out of the voted on picks, but without even looking at it, I think Kovalev is taking a spot of a more deserving player. Granted, many would argue Komisarek, but I like that a defensive player gets credit, so I won't knock that. But Kovalev?? He's not in the top 30 in the league in any statistical catagory. I can think of 5 right wingers from the east that are have as good or better seasons than Kovalev (Kessel, St. Louis, Zherdev, Alfredsson, Gionta). At least one of these guys and most likely 2 of these will not be on the team because of Montreal voting in Kovalev.

That's the part that is garbage about this!
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Hustler90
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Posted - 01/06/2009 :  12:11:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The voting system is "whack". Maybe it is all about pleasing the fans, but the fans are no gonna be very pleased when the see the lack of talent in this all-star game, and realize what a terrible thing they did by voting way to many times for the wrong person. It should have never been set up that way. Crosby and Malkin are definitley deserving of being on the starting lineup, but Kovalev. I am not so sure if I would even put him on the roster let alone the starting line. Markov is good and should be on the team but still not so sure about being a starter and Komisarek is an underrated defenseman but all-star? i dunno. Carey Price is deserving of being on the all-star team though. Habs fans really took advantage of this voting system. If the federal election was like this the Bloc de Quebecois would be in power with a majority government lol.
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Posted - 01/06/2009 :  22:59:40  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest4435

I'm a habs fan and personally I am confused why habs fans voted for so many habs players; we get to see them play every night! I'd rather vote to see some great players play that we don't get to see as much. That being said, Price definitely deserves the start for the east. He is 16-4-5 on the season where as without price montreal is 6-6-1. The only goalies with records better or close to that in the east play for Boston... and Boston is just insane this year so I don't think it matters who they have in net.



I wasd thinkin the same thing. If the all star game was in edmonton id want to see guys like ovechkin, thorton, iginla, nash, not guys i can see 41 times a year. i would like a couple in but not overloaded with unworthy guys
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Posted - 01/06/2009 :  23:00:53  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest5898

iginla isnt an all star player hes to boring



Iginla is an exciting player to watch and i love his style. He is an all star and one of the best all around players there are, and this is coming from an oilers fan
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Axey
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Posted - 01/08/2009 :  14:11:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Also from reading the Eastern results today, nobody will say much about this but Chara over Wideman? Wideman is having a better season point wise than Chara and may not ever. While yes I understand that Chara might be the better player of whatever but I thought we had this once a year to get the best players with the best performances - THAT - year. It's not like Boston has a shortage of players going but I think thats a greasy move, Wideman stepped up pretty big this year.

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Reeder17
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Posted - 01/09/2009 :  06:27:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All-star voting is a joke. I remember when I enjoyed watching the game. Leave it to the exec's. The last thing we need is another Rory Fitzpatrick.
On a side note, why is there no hitting?
I understand keeping your players from injury, however, the fact that hitting is one of the most important parts of the game how can you leave it out. Before it was just a courtesy, unwritten general rule...do not be an idiot. Have some body contact but don't be stupid about it. Now we hear there sending out memo's to all-star players that there will be no hitting....what a joke.
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MSC
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Posted - 01/09/2009 :  07:16:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Axey

Also from reading the Eastern results today, nobody will say much about this but Chara over Wideman? Wideman is having a better season point wise than Chara and may not ever. While yes I understand that Chara might be the better player of whatever but I thought we had this once a year to get the best players with the best performances - THAT - year. It's not like Boston has a shortage of players going but I think thats a greasy move, Wideman stepped up pretty big this year.

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Take Chara away from the Bruins and they're lucky to make play offs...take Wideman away and they'd barely lose a step.

Edited by - MSC on 01/09/2009 08:56:48
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Axey
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Posted - 01/09/2009 :  08:38:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MSC

quote:
Originally posted by Axey

Also from reading the Eastern results today, nobody will say much about this but Chara over Wideman? Wideman is having a better season point wise than Chara and may not ever. While yes I understand that Chara might be the better player of whatever but I thought we had this once a year to get the best players with the best performances - THAT - year. It's not like Boston has a shortage of players going but I think thats a greasy move, Wideman stepped up pretty big this year.

Chicago Blackhawks GM

Take Chara away from the Bruins and they're lucky to make play offs...take Wideman away and they'd barely lose a step.

Jesus didn't tap.





Yes I know this but that is not what the Allstar game is about, there are so many guys with good seasons that didn't make it bc of bigger names, it is brutal

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Odin
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Posted - 01/09/2009 :  09:21:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by slozo

Guest 0906 - you have your stats a little skewed . . .
Yes, technically Atlanta "proper" has a pop. of half a million, but the greater metropolitan area (which anyone would actually count as Atlanta) has a pop. of over 5 million. Atlanta has a population well over 9 million . . .
. . . of which aproximately 67 watch Thrashers hockey

To the point that Leigh makes - I totally agree, the system is screwed! And shame on Habs fans for being the pathetic homers that they are, instead of true hockey fans . . . it only shows how ignorant as fans they are. How some idiots could pick any player over Ovechkin is beyond me . . . this shames the game of hockey.

After all the abuse that Toronto fans get, where is all the moral outrage against these fans that voted in the Habs-beens?!?

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First off, there is nothing wrong with voting for your own team. One of the things about the all-star game, is that people want to see their FAVORITE player, not necessarily the best. I know its supposed to be best vs best, but it NEVER turns out that way. for example, why has Gonchar received any votes? He hasn't played a game. Yes, Habs fans mobilized in droves, but there was absolutely nothing stopping any other fan base from doing the exact same thing.

One thing, the Habs-beens?? After the pasting they put on your Leaf's last night, what does that make the Leaf's. Grabovski needs some help...
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Pasty7
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Posted - 01/09/2009 :  10:48:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MSC

quote:
Originally posted by Axey

Also from reading the Eastern results today, nobody will say much about this but Chara over Wideman? Wideman is having a better season point wise than Chara and may not ever. While yes I understand that Chara might be the better player of whatever but I thought we had this once a year to get the best players with the best performances - THAT - year. It's not like Boston has a shortage of players going but I think thats a greasy move, Wideman stepped up pretty big this year.

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Jesus didn't tap.



Take Chara away from the Bruins and they're lucky to make play offs...take Wideman away and they'd barely lose a step.




the same could be said for Mike Komisarek it doesn't make him anymore of an all star

Pasty
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Posted - 01/09/2009 :  11:12:02  Reply with Quote
I like to watch the all star weekend as much as any other fan but I am not going to complain about it too much. it should sill be entertaining but it is also a pointless game that still gives a chance for a player to get hurt....by having all the major players from a few select teams in the game they are rolling the dice on their own team future.
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Posted - 01/09/2009 :  20:08:33  Reply with Quote
No way should Kovalev and Komisarek even be on the team, let alone a starter. Kovalev has 31 points in 40 games, Komisarek is an average player at best. Its a shame that Ovechkin is not voted a starter. Price deserves to be there but not as a starter. Thomas should be the starter, but then Habs fans would lose it seeing a Bruins goalie starting the all star game in Montreal so they had to stuff the ballot boxes.

Shame on you habs fans, as if being a habs fan isn't enough shame on it's own.
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Axey
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Posted - 01/10/2009 :  09:00:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest6362

No way should Kovalev and Komisarek even be on the team, let alone a starter. Kovalev has 31 points in 40 games, Komisarek is an average player at best. Its a shame that Ovechkin is not voted a starter. Price deserves to be there but not as a starter. Thomas should be the starter, but then Habs fans would lose it seeing a Bruins goalie starting the all star game in Montreal so they had to stuff the ballot boxes.

Shame on you habs fans, as if being a habs fan isn't enough shame on it's own.



Haha. Exactly, why would people in Montreal not want to see THEIR goalie being the starter? I'm sure the folks in Boston wouldn't want to see their goalie and would rather see another starting? Give me a break, as for the shame? I'm guessing that must be a joke, 24 Stanley Cup, the oldest franchise in hockey, countless number of great players, the best fans in the world but yes we should be ashamed. Please dont comment with such ridiculous logic, think it over first before you blurt that out.

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Beans15
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Posted - 01/10/2009 :  10:56:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest6362

No way should Kovalev and Komisarek even be on the team, let alone a starter. Kovalev has 31 points in 40 games, Komisarek is an average player at best. Its a shame that Ovechkin is not voted a starter. Price deserves to be there but not as a starter. Thomas should be the starter, but then Habs fans would lose it seeing a Bruins goalie starting the all star game in Montreal so they had to stuff the ballot boxes.

Shame on you habs fans, as if being a habs fan isn't enough shame on it's own.



Although I agree that Kovalev is not the best choice as a starter, but Price has just as much right to be a starter as Thomas. However, neither are more deserving of the starter of Lundqvist. Lundqvist has played more than 10 more games than both of them and has faced around 300 more shots with very similar stats. NYR win around 40% of their games that Lundqvist doesn't play and around 60% of the games he does play. He should be the starter over both Price and Thomas.


And I have to say, Komisarek on the All-Star Team is AWESOME!!. The big, strong, shut down defensemen gets no repect in today's NHL. He's more that stats, and even though it took him getting voted in to be on the team, I like that he is there. The only flaw I can see in that is he has only played 24 games to this point. Others have played more and have been as effective, but I'm not going to complain too much.
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Alex
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Posted - 01/10/2009 :  16:49:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Couple points on this:

1) The basic principle of the voting system isn't bad. Not only does it bring in fans, it makes it fair. But to let someone vote more than once is retarded. I don't care if you're voting for an All-Star game or for diet beverage of the month, there will always be someone with nothing better to do than stuff the ballot box.

The hockey writers, coaches, players, etc. should come up with the roster, and the fans should have the power to bump players that are ALREADY in the game into a starting position, or, at the discretion of the NHL, into the game if they already aren't. (Ex. Phil Kessel)

2) People are getting hyped up over this ''starter'' business, but I think it's just symbolic if anything. They play the first shift and then the ice-time is relatively even, isn't it? I expect to see Crosby and Ovechkin sharing ice time regardless of how they made it on the team.

3) The game should be worth something. The MLB does home field advantage in the post-season which isn't a terrible idea. I've suggested the location of next year's ASG in the past, that might make more sense.

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JERJ2008
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Posted - 01/10/2009 :  17:59:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The fan voting system puts peoples favorite players as starters. How are guys like Dan Boyle not starters? Ovechkin? Sure, Toews and Kane are good, but they're not the best in the league.
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Posted - 01/12/2009 :  05:30:33  Reply with Quote
The all-star voting was a joke. When I looked at the numbers it really looked like there was some sort of automated program that voted for the Canadiens and Penguins in the east. I mean how else does Ovechkin get 1/2 the votes of any one of these guys.
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Posted - 01/12/2009 :  15:10:52  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by leigh

quote:
Originally posted by Pasty7

,,, so please be carefull when you put all us habs fan in the same pot...

Hey Pasty, your voting was obviously well thought out and not biased. But to be clear I didn't lump all Habs fans into "the same pot". I just said that Habs fans were mobilized. I mean, who else would it be? Maple Leaf and Canuck fans don't vote for this many Habs. I simply made a comment based on a common sense assumption. The same assumption could be made that last year that it was Vancouver fans who voted for Rory Fitzpatrick. This doesn't mean that all Canuck fans thought it was a good idea.



actually it was guy from buffalo who is a total rory fan who rallied for votes. i don't think a lot of canucks fans voted exclusively for him. i'm sure there were quite a few fro buffalo, and a whole bunch of non hockey ppl who read that devoted fan's story and dream wish to get rory into the All-Star game.
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Posted - 01/13/2009 :  04:50:42  Reply with Quote
It's a known fact that the all-star voting web site was pirated...They had to remove a portion of the habs players vote back in November (15 to 20 % the league didn't specify)... But it looks to me like the Nhl didn't fix quite right the security of his site even tough they say that the vote was "updated every hour to detect any abnormal fluctuations"...
hum...
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Axey
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Posted - 01/13/2009 :  08:58:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Guest4933

It's a known fact that the all-star voting web site was pirated...They had to remove a portion of the habs players vote back in November (15 to 20 % the league didn't specify)... But it looks to me like the Nhl didn't fix quite right the security of his site even tough they say that the vote was "updated every hour to detect any abnormal fluctuations"...
hum...



Yeah they got rid of just enough to let Crosby win. lol

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Posted - 01/13/2009 :  09:33:28  Reply with Quote
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No way should Kovalev and Komisarek even be on the team, let alone a starter. Kovalev has 31 points in 40 games, Komisarek is an average player at best. Its a shame that Ovechkin is not voted a starter. Price deserves to be there but not as a starter. Thomas should be the starter, but then Habs fans would lose it seeing a Bruins goalie starting the all star game in Montreal so they had to stuff the ballot boxes.

Shame on you habs fans, as if being a habs fan isn't enough shame on it's own.



Komisarek is average? On what planet? Just watch the stampede to sign him if the Habs don't get him signed down. He is constantly at the top or near the top when it comes to hits and blocked shots. Every team in the league wants him. That to me is the real indication of his woth. Sure he doesn't put up points every night, or even every week, but everybody knows there is a lot more to hockey than points.
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Posted - 01/14/2009 :  07:02:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Axey

quote:
Originally posted by Guest4933

It's a known fact that the all-star voting web site was pirated...They had to remove a portion of the habs players vote back in November (15 to 20 % the league didn't specify)... But it looks to me like the Nhl didn't fix quite right the security of his site even tough they say that the vote was "updated every hour to detect any abnormal fluctuations"...
hum...



Yeah they got rid of just enough to let Crosby win. lol

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Haha, yeah I wouldn't doubt it.

Crosby is not the Jesus Lord & Savior of the NHL, get over yourself McGuire.
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