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Matt_Roberts85
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 Posted - 05/12/2009 : 07:22:44
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I know its playoff time, and the leafs aren't involved but I had to get some reaction to Eliotte Friedmans report that there are heavy rumours circulating around the NHL that Brian Burke is putting together a deal that would send Tampa Bay's 2nd overall pick, Ryan Malone and his 7 year contract (or whatever it is), another big contract for Toronto's 7th overall and something else.
Tampa is apparantley extremley overbudget and cash strapped. Burke can bury contracts in the minors if he wants, and has cap space to take on a player like Malone.
I'm sure some of you will throw out the usual leaf hating company line of this all being "Leaf fan fantasy", but it seems to have some legs.
I still think Tavares will be an Islander, but if Burke gets the 2nd overall it will put him in a great position to get a franchise player that the Leafs desperatley need. Hedman or Duschene would both look sweet in blue and white.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E".
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Rambo2305
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Posted - 05/12/2009 : 08:14:25
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Originally posted by Matt_Roberts85
I know its playoff time, and the leafs aren't involved but I had to get some reaction to Eliotte Friedmans report that there are heavy rumours circulating around the NHL that Brian Burke is putting together a deal that would send Tampa Bay's 2nd overall pick, Ryan Malone and his 7 year contract (or whatever it is), another big contract for Toronto's 7th overall and something else.
Tampa is apparantley extremley overbudget and cash strapped. Burke can bury contracts in the minors if he wants, and has cap space to take on a player like Malone.
I'm sure some of you will throw out the usual leaf hating company line of this all being "Leaf fan fantasy", but it seems to have some legs.
I still think Tavares will be an Islander, but if Burke gets the 2nd overall it will put him in a great position to get a franchise player that the Leafs desperatley need. Hedman or Duschene would both look sweet in blue and white.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E".
Yea, the updated scouting lists have Tavares at #3 because of his meltdown in the playoffs. The rankings are as follows:
1) Duchene
2) Hedman
3) Tavares
4) Kane
The Islanders are looking at Hedman before a forward simply because their D is horrible. This would leave Tavares, Duchene and Kane to go 2nd, 3rd and 4th respectively. Burke really likes Duchene simply because he's a top point producer and is alot faster then Tavares.
Safe to say, if this deal with TB happens, the Leafs will get Duchene or Tavares. Hedman is good, yes, but the Leafs already have enough D.
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Posted - 05/12/2009 : 08:14:37
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| As much as i can't stand Burke, i could see him pulling something like this off. If he wants Tavares bad enough, watch for him to swing a deal with NYI to get him. Many teams are on the fence as to which guy is the better pick (Tavares vs Hedman) so it might not take much to sway the Isles? Just cuz i don't like him, doesn't mean he can't get this done...... |
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Rambo2305
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Posted - 05/12/2009 : 08:41:50
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It's funny, if Burke can pull something like this off, he would be considered the greatest GM in Leafs history, well, after Conn Smythe... 
But seriously, this would be a huge franchise turner for the Leafs. Burke's not a fan of "rebuilding". He'll do whatever it takes to make this team a playoff contender by next year.
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Guest7752
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Posted - 05/12/2009 : 08:48:31
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unbelievable.......
Leaf fans are already considering him the best GM of all time, and already have the leafs in playoff contention...!!!
all thst on a wet dream!!!!!
... maybe Sundin will also sign with them?........
and then not only are they in the playoff - they will finally see Sundin hoist the cup ... at home...!!!! |
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kingwoody2
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Posted - 05/12/2009 : 08:52:41
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I am guessing if this was true, it would probably be for the 7th pick and someone like Kaberle I am assuming. Who else would they be able to give Tampa?
And even with Tavares or Duchene, we still arent a playoff contender. To be considered a playoff contender, we need a goalie cause Toskala is horrible. |
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Matt_Roberts85
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Posted - 05/12/2009 : 08:55:16
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I would be absolutley shocked if the NYI take anyone other than John Tavares. They are desperate for a face of the franchise, and someone who will sell tickets. Tavares already has name value on Long Island as the hardcore fans have been following the whole situation closley. Hedman or Duschene dont scream "buy seasons tickets' the same way tavares does.
There's still lots of time, we'll see what happens...
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Matt_Roberts85
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Posted - 05/12/2009 : 09:05:32
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Originally posted by Guest7752
unbelievable.......
Leaf fans are already considering him the best GM of all time, and already have the leafs in playoff contention...!!!
all thst on a wet dream!!!!!
... maybe Sundin will also sign with them?........
and then not only are they in the playoff - they will finally see Sundin hoist the cup ... at home...!!!!
Hey 7752, long time no trash talk.
I think rambo said "best gm in LEAF history.." not of all time. I would never even consider that...
who cares about sundin now, his career is over, ill cheer when they raise #13 to the rafters but his era is over. You win on the sundin debate, he didnt play well for vancouver. He's old, injured and washed up. Once a dominant force, not so much anymore.
Also, this isnt some made up wet dream im having, Eliotte Freidman was reporting on CBC that numourous NHL exec's had mentioned that they heard this was going down, and he was also on the FAN590 saying the same thing. This doesn't make it a fact or a sure thing, but it is a juicy story for leaf fans.
If you want to rip on this, feel free to do so. Leaf hating is funny.
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Rambo2305
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Posted - 05/12/2009 : 10:08:35
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Originally posted by Guest7752
unbelievable.......
Leaf fans are already considering him the best GM of all time, and already have the leafs in playoff contention...!!!
all thst on a wet dream!!!!!
... maybe Sundin will also sign with them?........
and then not only are they in the playoff - they will finally see Sundin hoist the cup ... at home...!!!!
Easy there buddy, Leaf fans have a sense of humour too :P was the emoticon not a clue at sarcasm? LOL
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Matt_Roberts85
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Posted - 05/12/2009 : 11:24:11
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BREAKING NEWS
Doug MacLean (on the gameplan, FAN590 )has just said that the tampa bay lighting have confirmed to sportsnet that they are willing to trade the 2nd overall pick to the toronto maple leafs in exchange for torontos 7th pick, tomas kaberle and luke schenn.
WOW
The ball is in Burkes court
The only way i do this is if i know FOR SURE that i can get john tavares
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Rambo2305
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Posted - 05/12/2009 : 12:14:45
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S*** eh...
Kaberle can be the QB of any PP when he's 100%. Schenn, a minus player but with A+ potential....
On the otherhand, with 2nd overall, T.O. gets a future potential franchise player...
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MSC
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Posted - 05/12/2009 : 12:15:26
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| That just wouldn't make any sense. The seventh pick and Schenn alone way to much for the 2nd pick. |
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Rambo2305
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Posted - 05/12/2009 : 12:21:43
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That's the thing, if the Leafs give up Kabby, they'd be crazy to give up Schenn too. Again, it's all up to Burke, unlike previous Leaf GM's, I actually trust that he'll make a smart move.
Is Tampa still offering Malone in the deal?
Malone and 2nd Pick
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Kaberle, Schenn and 7th Pick
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MSC
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Posted - 05/12/2009 : 12:38:21
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Schenn will be in a Leafs jersey this time next year. The trade may happen though.
7th pick and Kaberle for the 2nd pick seems more reasonable. And even that one is quite skewed in TB's favor. |
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JOSHUACANADA
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Posted - 05/12/2009 : 12:54:55
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Desperate move for a GM who is trying to justify the hype he has recieved. Kaberle is a great defensman who is "not" overpaid. I say if this happens for another potential Franchise layer they beter get there moneys worth. All of last season Kaberle, White and Antropov were the only players to tune in for.
If they get Malone in the deal maybe its worth looking at! But he is not a top tier player. |
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Matt_Roberts85
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Posted - 05/12/2009 : 13:01:00
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No one said that is what burke was offering, that is what tampa apparently wants. DOnt judge burke based on that. apparently burke has already come aout and said that schenn isnt going anywhere. id definatley give up kaberle and the 7th for the 2nd. that 2nd pick will either be tavaresm hedman or duschene. that would be sweet.
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Matt_Roberts85
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Posted - 05/12/2009 : 13:52:25
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Originally posted by JOSHUACANADA
Desperate move for a GM who is trying to justify the hype he has recieved.
Comments like this really bug me...hype...hype is created by...media? fans?
Its not like burke went on tv and said im the best gm in the world and im going to justify all the hype ive received by making blockbuster deals every other week.
He's trying to improve the club, nothing has even been done yet, yet somehow its a desperate move by a desperate gm. He is in the first year of a 6 year deal, he is far from desperate. Its going to be a calculated gamble if anything happens.
If he ends up getting tavares by trading the 7th and kaberle, burke is laughing. He definatley looks like a genius if he can pull that off.
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Posted - 05/12/2009 : 14:14:22
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| Toronto needs more help than a 2nd overall draftpick????? C'mon you guys really!!! |
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Beans15
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Posted - 05/12/2009 : 17:59:24
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I was of the understand that Burke was only going to trade up in the draft if he could get Tavares?? I don't think he has said a whole lot this his end of the year press conference and he said clearly that he wanted to trade up for Tavares.
I also agree that a deal involving Kaberle, Schenn, and the 7th pick for the 2nd pick and Malone (and any combination of said) is complete ludacris. I have little to no respect for Burke as a GM to begin with, but this would completely confirm that. This draft is deep enough to get a quality player at the 7th spot and not have to lose your blue chip defenseman of the future and a legitimate #1 or #2 defenseman today. That's too much.
Now, the other piece of this is that if Burke can snag the #2 pick, he might be able to use that to get all the way up to #1. But it's also reported that Garth Snow wasn't too happy about the "grand standing" Burke did at the season ending press conference and that he is not willing to talk to Burke about the #1 pick.
I seriously don't see this happening, yet stranger things have happened. |
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Rambo2305
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Posted - 05/13/2009 : 05:20:27
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Burke denied Tampa's counter-offer, saying "you're not getting Luke, try again". He said he isn't going to give up more then he has too, and if it comes down to it, he'll stick with 7th.
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Posted - 05/13/2009 : 06:57:02
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I love how people somehow jumped on Burke because an offer was made in public to him . . . and eventually rejected. lol
This is all part of the negotiation process - start high, and get 'bargained down' to a decent deal in the end. Burke already stated that any deal offer with Schenn was a non-starter, so we ALREADY KNOW he isn't moving Schenn . . . well, at least not for any draft pick, no matter how high.
It's all just talk until it happens, folks.
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Beans15
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Posted - 05/13/2009 : 09:37:08
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Hey Slozo (or other Leaf Fans) what about a deal for Schenn straight up for the #2 pick. He's already proven to be NHL ready at a very young age and will improve. However, you could get Hedman at #2 and still have the #7 pick.
I think that would be a deal, but that might be a little bit more stretched towards advantage TO. However, that is a lot more likely then what was originally offered. |
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Guest0915
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Posted - 05/13/2009 : 10:04:18
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Isn't Schenn's Brother in the draft this year......
According to Schenn,,, His brother is a better player......
I say Burke drafts Schenn in this years draft......Tavares will be another Lindros......Prone to Injuries
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Matt_Roberts85
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Posted - 05/13/2009 : 11:00:06
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......Tavares will be another Lindros......Prone to Injuries
based on what? or is that just a hunch...you could just as easily say that Tavaraes will be the next Sidney Crosby.
He doesn't play a physical style like Lindros so im not sure how you jump to that conclusion...
Beans - I don't think Tampa deals the 2nd for just Schenn, doesn't really make sense for them to pass on Hedman in favour of Schenn.
Burke wont trade Schenn anyways, its kind of a moot point. The leafs 7th, Kaberle and Schenn is WAY too much for the 2nd pick and its not going to happen. I can still see a deal between these 2 clubs, as I strongly beleive tampa wants to dump some salary on toronto, its just that the players involved in the deal may end up surprising alot of people.
I can definatley see the leafs switching picks with tampa, but also taking back some salary in 1 or 2 guys, and sending a cheap young player the other way as well. Matt Stajan comes to mind, so does Kulemin.
I know this is getting into fantasy land territory, but If I could get say, the 2nd pick and Ryan Malone for the 7th pick, Matt Stajan and Tomas Kaberle, id do it.
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Posted - 05/13/2009 : 11:30:00
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I think if Burke gets the 2nd pick it going to be for the 7th pick and a few Million bucks. Tampa needs cash they have a solid group of players their they can get a decent pick in the # 7 spot like somebody else said this is a pretty good crop of players. Or they involve Kab's and Malone some how because Tampa needs a D-man and TO would then have a chance to draft Hedman #2 overall and have a good chance of having two young D-Men with high expectations or go for a guy like Duschene or Kane with a nice scoring touch.
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Posted - 05/13/2009 : 11:35:47
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Originally posted by Guest0915
Isn't Schenn's Brother in the draft this year......
According to Schenn,,, His brother is a better player......
I say Burke drafts Schenn in this years draft......Tavares will be another Lindros......Prone to Injuries
Wake up BUTHEAD!! Lindros was prone to getting hit by other players hard causing concusions, not injuries. Not the same thing. |
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Guest7752
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Posted - 05/13/2009 : 12:08:51
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Originally posted by Rambo2305
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Originally posted by Guest7752
unbelievable.......
Leaf fans are already considering him the best GM of all time, and already have the leafs in playoff contention...!!!
all thst on a wet dream!!!!!
... maybe Sundin will also sign with them?........
and then not only are they in the playoff - they will finally see Sundin hoist the cup ... at home...!!!!
Easy there buddy, Leaf fans have a sense of humour too :P was the emoticon not a clue at sarcasm? LOL
"Most people spend time and energy going around problems, rather than trying to solve them" - Henry Ford
Ok - so Leaf media and fans have Tavares already in T.O., and already have decided that Schenn is staying put.
What about a goalie - since Luongo's been in Vancouver news - does that mean he's on his way to T.O. too?
I'll bet that almost every GM has been calling the lottery teams to see if they can get a hold of top picks from them... only difference is that Burke uses the media to show how well he's doing and how hard he's trying to please the desperate Leaf fans. And all you fans fall for this crap!
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JOSHUACANADA
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Posted - 05/13/2009 : 12:16:29
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| Wrong guest7752 every GM in the league is releasing news with regards to there team and potential draft picks. Toronto is the only market which puts it on the front page. People care about hockey in Toronto. |
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Posted - 05/13/2009 : 13:00:36
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Originally posted by JOSHUACANADA
Wrong guest7752 every GM in the league is releasing news with regards to there team and potential draft picks. Toronto is the only market which puts it on the front page. People care about hockey in Toronto.
I'm afraid you're wrong here.
Teams releasing news are releasing "real" news on potential draft picks.
Burke has officialy released nothing regarding Tavares except to deny any "talks" about the Tampa trade rumors.
Toronto media puts RUMORS on front pages, and then fans start the "what if" scenarios as if the know everything and "care" about hockey.
They don't care about hockey - all they care about is being on the hockey news front pages, regardless if it is based on rumors. And that's because they know they will NEVER be in hockey news front pages based on a WINNING team, or even a cup winning team.
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tbar
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Posted - 05/13/2009 : 13:22:39
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Guest 7752 why don't you go see how long you have to hold your breath till you pass out.
So Leafs fans are the reason this rumor is in the news? WTF where do you come off saying that? Yes I hacked into TSN's web site and put this in the rumour mill and then Tampa came out and said what they wanted publicly. Yah that makes a hell of a lot of sence. All Burke has said is we are not trading Schenn. Doesn't sound to me like hes gettin his panties tied up in a bunch near as much as you. |
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Posted - 05/13/2009 : 19:48:24
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EDIT - I have deleted a post due to it being a pure personal attack.
sigh . . . attack the argument, not the person.
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Posted - 05/13/2009 : 19:57:18
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To answer your question Beans - one bird in the hand is worth three in the bush.
Leafs would keep Schenn unless it's a real mega deal, with a Lecavalier-type coming over, or a Nash maybe . . . but even then, I find it difficult to see. Burke talked at length on the radio today, and after shooting down the ridiculousness of the deal, talked glowingly of a future captain and #2 or 3 defenceman in Schenn. He likes him, and when Burke likes you, he sticks with you for a long time.
Maybe 7th pick and Kaberle for #2 . . . maybe. But I still find that risky, as Kaberle is a great deal financially for the Leafs and he's a solid top-scoring d-man.
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Posted - 05/14/2009 : 06:37:15
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Originally posted by tbar
Guest 7752 why don't you go see how long you have to hold your breath till you pass out.
So Leafs fans are the reason this rumor is in the news? WTF where do you come off saying that? Yes I hacked into TSN's web site and put this in the rumour mill and then Tampa came out and said what they wanted publicly. Yah that makes a hell of a lot of sence. All Burke has said is we are not trading Schenn. Doesn't sound to me like hes gettin his panties tied up in a bunch near as much as you.
Sir - please first learn how to apply the one-plus-one-equals-two rule to this story.
I'll try to help you out, here goes:
It could possibly be that a Leaf fan could also be a TSN reporter (at the same time).
Hope that's understood? Good, let's move on...
Now being both a reporter and a Leaf fan - a reporter may tend to stretch the truth.
Still with us here? Good... Let's continue...
Apply the one-plus-one-equals-two rule.... And there you go!!!!
A stupid reporter, at the same time an avid Leaf fan, stretching the truth a little on something he possibly heard 1% of, takes everything out of context - a voila!!! Tavares is a Leaf!!!!
Now for panties getting in the picture, how do you know Burke wears panties? Is that a Leaf solidarity thing? strange...
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Posted - 05/14/2009 : 08:39:49
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Originally posted by slozo
To answer your question Beans - one bird in the hand is worth three in the bush.
Leafs would keep Schenn unless it's a real mega deal, with a Lecavalier-type coming over, or a Nash maybe . . . but even then, I find it difficult to see. Burke talked at length on the radio today, and after shooting down the ridiculousness of the deal, talked glowingly of a future captain and #2 or 3 defenceman in Schenn. He likes him, and when Burke likes you, he sticks with you for a long time.
Maybe 7th pick and Kaberle for #2 . . . maybe. But I still find that risky, as Kaberle is a great deal financially for the Leafs and he's a solid top-scoring d-man.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
I don't disagree completely, but is this not possibly Burke's ego getting in the way. I know that Schenn has proven himself at the NHL level already, but Hedman is looking like the real deal and he has the potential to bring more to the table than Schenn does. Plus, the 7th pick brings in another solid player. From what I have read, the top 10 prospects this year are all gamers. I don't know. It's toss up for me, but I definately hear your point. |
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Matt_Roberts85
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Posted - 05/14/2009 : 08:51:10
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It's only May, things will really heat up after the cup final. Until then, It's all guessing...
Damn Eliotte Friedman for getting my trade rumour gears going...
Hey 7752: Who is your favorite team? The Habs? It would explain alot if they were...
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Posted - 05/14/2009 : 09:32:52
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| Well a rumor is a rumor but come on we all know what Burke can do.Years ago he got D sedin and H sedin in the draft with a 3rd and 4th round pick but Burke will do good for the Leafs he bulit a franchise team with the ducks and in a 2 year time period won the cup. So this trade could be a roumor or Burke is trying his best to do what he did with the Canucks and Ducks. There are alot of free agents and I would be suprised if Burke brings Chris Pronger, the sedin twins, Teemu Selanne, Scott Niedermayer, Bertuzzi and Martin Havlat to the leafs hes got money to spend with the team with the most cap space he could do it. So leaf fans you very lucky to have Burke any team would love to have him as a GM and I would hate to see Bertuzzi in a leafs jersey since I am a Flames fan. But Burke in a least 3-4 years time will bring the leafs to glory. |
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Matt_Roberts85
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Posted - 05/14/2009 : 10:31:26
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Originally posted by Guest2265
Well a rumor is a rumor but come on we all know what Burke can do.Years ago he got D sedin and H sedin in the draft with a 3rd and 4th round pick but Burke will do good for the Leafs he bulit a franchise team with the ducks and in a 2 year time period won the cup. So this trade could be a roumor or Burke is trying his best to do what he did with the Canucks and Ducks. There are alot of free agents and I would not be suprised if Burke brings Chris Pronger, the sedin twins, Teemu Selanne, Scott Niedermayer, Bertuzzi and Martin Havlat to the leafs hes got money to spend with the team with the most cap space he could do it. So leaf fans you very lucky to have Burke any team would love to have him as a GM and I would hate to see Bertuzzi in a leafs jersey since I am a Flames fan. But Burke in a least 3-4 years time will bring the leafs to glory.
Of all those guys you mentioned, Id be shocked to see 1 of them in a leaf jersey next year. Not a chance any are coming to the leafs.
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Beans15
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Posted - 05/14/2009 : 10:39:07
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Originally posted by Guest2265
Well a rumor is a rumor but come on we all know what Burke can do.Years ago he got D sedin and H sedin in the draft with a 3rd and 4th round pick but Burke will do good for the Leafs he bulit a franchise team with the ducks and in a 2 year time period won the cup. So this trade could be a roumor or Burke is trying his best to do what he did with the Canucks and Ducks. There are alot of free agents and I would be suprised if Burke brings Chris Pronger, the sedin twins, Teemu Selanne, Scott Niedermayer, Bertuzzi and Martin Havlat to the leafs hes got money to spend with the team with the most cap space he could do it. So leaf fans you very lucky to have Burke any team would love to have him as a GM and I would hate to see Bertuzzi in a leafs jersey since I am a Flames fan. But Burke in a least 3-4 years time will bring the leafs to glory.
Homework time! Firstly, considering the Canucks haven't gotten past the 2nd round in how long the team that Burke "built" there did not succeed. And you might want to look back at those Ducks that Burke "Built" and see how many of them were there before Burke arrived and how many he actually brought to the team. Even more importantly, you might want to look at the fact before the moves the current GM in Anaheim made at the deadline, there were 5 defensemen and 9 forwards who were all UFA's this off season. Nice work Burke!!!
And, the Leafs have a dedicated $41 million on their payroll for this coming season. Even if the cap doesn't go down, that leaves only $15-$17 million. That's hardly enough for the Sedin twins themselves, let alone Pronger, Havlat, Bertuzzi, Neidermayer, and Selanne. Maybe next season, where they have only $17 million cap committed, but those players will not be available next season.
If Burke is smarter than I think he is, he digs in his heels and go through 1 more tough year. Draft well this year and next(adding to the likes of Schenn and Grabovksi) and see what's on the UFA market next summer. Then goes for broke in the 2010-2011 season. |
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MSC
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Posted - 05/14/2009 : 10:57:54
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Originally posted by Guest2265
Well a rumor is a rumor but come on we all know what Burke can do.Years ago he got D sedin and H sedin in the draft with a 3rd and 4th round pick but Burke will do good for the Leafs he bulit a franchise team with the ducks and in a 2 year time period won the cup. So this trade could be a roumor or Burke is trying his best to do what he did with the Canucks and Ducks. There are alot of free agents and I would be suprised if Burke brings Chris Pronger, the sedin twins, Teemu Selanne, Scott Niedermayer, Bertuzzi and Martin Havlat to the leafs hes got money to spend with the team with the most cap space he could do it. So leaf fans you very lucky to have Burke any team would love to have him as a GM and I would hate to see Bertuzzi in a leafs jersey since I am a Flames fan. But Burke in a least 3-4 years time will bring the leafs to glory.
I think you're missing the point of rebuilding a team.
Pronger - 34
Selanne - 38
Bertuzzi - 34
Nieds - 35
Signing these types of players is what got them in this mess in the first place. Does Lindros, Francis, Murphy, Roberts, Thomas, Mogilny, Renberg, Nolan, Housley, Leetch, Allison, O'Neil, or Tucker ring a bell?
Granted Pronger and Nieds could bring more to the Leafs now then the above named players BUT that's not the point. Bringing in over priced over the hill players is not a winning strategy for a rebuilding team. In fact they're concentrating on dumping players that fit that bill who are currently on the team NOT bring more in.
In 3-4 years (your prediction) when Burke is supposed to be bringing glory to the Leafs these guys will all be retired. How the hell does that help the rebuilding process? |
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Guest0906
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Posted - 05/14/2009 : 12:29:40
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| It don't matter, what Toronto Does.......They will continue to Suck....Why, because that is what they do....... |
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Matt_Roberts85
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Canada
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Posted - 05/14/2009 : 12:55:51
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Things will change eventually, it's bound to happen. I know there are alot of people that would just love to see the leafs continue to suck till the end of time. The leafs will be good again. I just hope it happens within the next couple of seasons.
If you want to see an electric city, just wait until T.O. goes deep again. This town will rock like no other. (save for maybe montreal... montreal would be absolutley insane if they were in the conference finals or beyond)
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E". |
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Tampa Bay's 2nd Overall Pick Going To Toronto? 
