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hockster
PickupHockey Pro
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 Posted - 05/27/2009 : 15:34:30
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These trades dont have to actually happen. That means any trades that aren't to too far out there. Just say them and we'll rate them and add our own.
Iginla for 2010 team captain.
Flames for cup...eventually.
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JOSHUACANADA
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 05/27/2009 : 16:03:22
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| Fantasy trade here this one has no legs. Alfredson for Hemsky. |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 05/27/2009 : 20:57:16
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Alfredsson for Hemsky, I'd do that deal in a heartbeat as an Oiler. Sure, Alfredsson is getting up there in years, but he is multidimensional and a leader. Hemsky is one dimensional and not a leader. And I don't think Hemsky makes Ottawa any better. Spezza is a better playmaker than Hemsky is.
Ok, here's a trade
L. Visnovsky
S. Horcoff
R. Schremp
1st Round Draft Pick in 2010
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Thrasher
Rookie
Canada
155 Posts |
Posted - 05/27/2009 : 21:28:45
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quote:
Originally posted by Beans15
Alfredsson for Hemsky, I'd do that deal in a heartbeat as an Oiler. Sure, Alfredsson is getting up there in years, but he is multidimensional and a leader. Hemsky is one dimensional and not a leader. And I don't think Hemsky makes Ottawa any better. Spezza is a better playmaker than Hemsky is.
Ok, here's a trade
L. Visnovsky
S. Horcoff
R. Schremp
1st Round Draft Pick in 2010
for
I. Kovalckuk
O baby! That would be the greatest trade in history(maybe not). Kovalchuk coming to a city that cares about hockey and a team that has a chance to do something? Kovalchuk is one the best players in the NHL, and i really believe if he got a chance somewhere else, he would be a MVP candidate (biased? A little). I could only hope he gets to go somehwhere different.
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JOSHUACANADA
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 05/27/2009 : 23:31:42
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quote:
Originally posted by Beans15
Alfredsson for Hemsky, I'd do that deal in a heartbeat as an Oiler. Sure, Alfredsson is getting up there in years, but he is multidimensional and a leader. Hemsky is one dimensional and not a leader. And I don't think Hemsky makes Ottawa any better. Spezza is a better playmaker than Hemsky is.
Ok, here's a trade
L. Visnovsky
S. Horcoff
R. Schremp
1st Round Draft Pick in 2010
for
I. Kovalckuk
While I do think the trade for Kovalckuk would be good, I stand by my Hemsky for Alfredson by saying it would be the best for both teams. Ottawa needs new leasership and while Im not suggesting it is Hemsky alfie stil has got to go. What can you get for an aging former 100 point producer with a few good years. How about a player with tremendous offensive (who hasn't peeked) upside signed at 2/3 his salary who will be effective 3-4-5 years from now. Edmonton gets that veteran presince they need so bad right now with potentially 1-2 years at 90-100 points. |
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Posted - 05/28/2009 : 05:30:19
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JoshuaCanada: Hemsky for Alfredsson? Don't think so, I agree with Beans - not good for Ottawa. They get a good, one-dimensional playmaker with no real size and some speed, and they lose their most clutch goal-scorer and leader, a gritty scorer and playmaker, and although he will have dimishing returns, the returns are still better than what Hemsky has got to give. Alfredsson is very much like his countryman Sundin, someone will overpay for the whole package - leadership, scoring, playmaking, grit, sound defensive play.
Beans: Obviously Edmonton would take Kovalchuk (who wouldn't?), and his time in Atlanta may be done soon, so that is a potential blockbuster that has some merit. Would Edmonton be so willing to part with Vishnovsky (premier offensive defenceman), Horcoff (a decent playmaking center) and Schremp and a 1st rounder? Well, I can see Horcoff and Schremp and the 1st rounder going, but do they really have the depth at defence to let go of Visnovsky? Not so sure, but to get a big prize like Kovie, no doubt you'd have to pay a steep price. Anyways, it's within the realm of possibility.
Now, would Atlanta deal Kovie for all those pieces . . . hmm. I don't see it as a perfect fit, although the value is there. The key is Schremp and the 1st rounder, plus a solid guy (Horcoff) who you can at least plug into Kovie's place. You get a high scoring d-man, but offense isn't what Atlanta should be looking for - they need real defence. Still, like I said, it's fair value, just not sure if they wouldn't be a bit pickier considering they are losing their franchise player in a market that desperately needs one to slap on the cereal boxes.
MY TURN! 
Toronto - Jason Blake, Jeff Finger >>> NY Isles - Mark Streit
Phoenix(Hamilton?) - Shane Doan, Ed Jovonavski >>>> Tampa Bay - Vincent Lecavalier
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
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Beans15
Moderator
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Posted - 05/28/2009 : 07:24:42
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OK, here's the last thing on my trade. You only move Visnovsky when Bouwmeester signed in Edmonton as a UFA this summer. Plus, you have to throw in a 1st and Shremp because A) Schremp in not an NHL player and B) you have to make ATL happy for taking the $7 million/season contract that Horcoff will be making for the next 3 years.
OK, to your trades.
If TO could get their hands on Streit, it would be great for the team. Not giving up a ton (let's face it Blake is not that good) and give flexability in moving Kaberle for another piece of the puzzle. That's a nice trade for TO.
Lecavalier is a top 5-10 talent in the league who is just hitting his prime. It would take more than Doan(who is a great player) and Jovo (who only has 3ish good years left) to move a Lecavalier. |
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Guest9838
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Posted - 05/28/2009 : 07:49:45
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I agree with the assesment on the Lecavalier trade you have to throw in a Boedker, Mueller, Turris and/or Hanzal into that deal and maybe a draft pick too.
You've got to love the possibilities with Kovalchuk, hard to believe he's still only like 25.
How about this for the leafs fans
Kovalchuk
for
Kaberle, Stajan, Kulemin, 1st rnd 2009 (after Burke has moved up from 7th)
Though the problem with this is that T.O. would probably have to trade Kaberle to move up in the draft. lol... catch 22: T.O. only has 1 real commodity (Schenn being untouchable)
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Guest9838
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Posted - 05/28/2009 : 07:52:55
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| Thinking about it Stajan may not be the right piece here, perhaps Mitchell, Pony or Hagman, no one really near Horcoff though if you're comparing to Beans' edmonton trade, T.O just doesn't have the pieces... but a top 3 pick this year might be the draw if Burke could swing it, imagine a chance at Hedman, Tavares or Duchene |
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Guest2269
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Posted - 05/28/2009 : 09:17:52
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| Kipper, Langkow, vandermeer for Martin Broudeur now I know that Broudure is at that age but I am just saying this would be a good trade for both teams and will free some cap space up for the flames. Another trade Luongo, H&D Sedin, Olund, and Salo for Ovechkin works out for both teams Wash get some good players and a world class goalie and Van gets a world class Player. |
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Guest2559
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Posted - 05/28/2009 : 11:08:24
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Originally posted by Guest2269
Kipper, Langkow, vandermeer for Martin Broudeur now I know that Broudure is at that age but I am just saying this would be a good trade for both teams and will free some cap space up for the flames. Another trade Luongo, H&D Sedin, Olund, and Salo for Ovechkin works out for both teams Wash get some good players and a world class goalie and Van gets a world class Player.
LOL I would love to see you GM the Canucks because I hate them and they would suck after 1 trade with you in charge. And yes Washington would jump for joy if they were offered that. |
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JOSHUACANADA
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 05/28/2009 : 12:43:45
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Originally posted by Guest2559
quote:
Originally posted by Guest2269
Kipper, Langkow, vandermeer for Martin Broudeur now I know that Broudure is at that age but I am just saying this would be a good trade for both teams and will free some cap space up for the flames. Another trade Luongo, H&D Sedin, Olund, and Salo for Ovechkin works out for both teams Wash get some good players and a world class goalie and Van gets a world class Player.
LOL I would love to see you GM the Canucks because I hate them and they would suck after 1 trade with you in charge. And yes Washington would jump for joy if they were offered that.
I think the trade favours Vancouver. They gonna lose Sedins and Loungo anyway, this or next year. Salo, gotta be getting over the hill soon and Ohland replacable. Where you gonna get a 2 time 22-23 year old Rocket Richard trophie winner who is signed until 2040ish. Really. |
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hanley6
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
674 Posts |
Posted - 05/28/2009 : 13:38:18
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Originally posted by JOSHUACANADA
Fantasy trade here this one has no legs. Alfredson for Hemsky.
Heatley is better than Alfreddson, Alfredsson is a horrible leader. Alfredsson would be nothing with out Heatley and/or Spezza... Something Alfredsson has always had is good line mates, he would drop dramatically in stats if that trade ever happened to take place and Hemsky's stats would increase. |
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JOSHUACANADA
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2308 Posts |
Posted - 05/28/2009 : 13:40:27
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Originally posted by hanley6
quote:
Originally posted by JOSHUACANADA
Fantasy trade here this one has no legs. Alfredson for Hemsky.
Heatley is better than Alfreddson, Alfredsson is a horrible leader. Alfredsson would be nothing with out Heatley and/or Spezza... Something Alfredsson has always had is good line mates, he would drop dramatically in stats if that trade ever happened to take place and Hemsky's stats would increase.
Hanley, you are the man. That was my point exactly. |
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hockster
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
437 Posts |
Posted - 05/28/2009 : 13:52:09
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Originally posted by Beans15
Alfredsson for Hemsky, I'd do that deal in a heartbeat as an Oiler. Sure, Alfredsson is getting up there in years, but he is multidimensional and a leader. Hemsky is one dimensional and not a leader. And I don't think Hemsky makes Ottawa any better. Spezza is a better playmaker than Hemsky is.
Ok, here's a trade
L. Visnovsky
S. Horcoff
R. Schremp
1st Round Draft Pick in 2010
for
I. Kovalckuk
substitute eberle for schremp i think this deal has legs but i mean shremp is no t worth anything right now the oilers ahave proved hes not an nhl guy
phaneuf and phoenixes 3rd 2009(jokinen trade)
for
stamkos, 2nd overall,mike mcenna, Artyukhin
(then sign j-bo)
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20th overall calgary for helm
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Guest8571
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Posted - 05/28/2009 : 13:53:16
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Why not Helm and Lilja to Dallas to Detroit for
Daley and Neal? |
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Sensfan101
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 05/28/2009 : 14:02:37
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Shut up hanley
quote:
Originally posted by hanley6
quote:
Originally posted by JOSHUACANADA
Fantasy trade here this one has no legs. Alfredson for Hemsky.
Heatley is better than Alfreddson, Alfredsson is a horrible leader. Alfredsson would be nothing with out Heatley and/or Spezza... Something Alfredsson has always had is good line mates, he would drop dramatically in stats if that trade ever happened to take place and Hemsky's stats would increase.
You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky |
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JOSHUACANADA
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2308 Posts |
Posted - 05/28/2009 : 14:07:57
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| That some funny s*** sens fan. Dont get mad. Every dogs gotta get put down some day. He really aint helping our team as much as pushing us to close to the cap. Time for some fresh legs. |
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hanley6
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 05/28/2009 : 14:29:24
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[quote]Originally posted by Sensfan101
Shut up hanley
take a pill little buddy, I didn't say anything wrong |
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hanley6
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
674 Posts |
Posted - 05/28/2009 : 14:40:07
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| Toskala and Kubina and 3rd round to the New York Islanders for 1st round draft pick and Bruno Gervais |
Edited by - hanley6 on 05/28/2009 14:41:29 |
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hockster
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
437 Posts |
Posted - 05/28/2009 : 14:45:23
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quote:
Originally posted by hanley6
Toskala and Kubina and 3rd round to the New York Islanders for 1st round draft pick and Bruno Gervais
No Way!!!
Isles would never do that!!!! Terrible Deal!!!!
Iginla for 2010 team captain.
Flames for cup...eventually. |
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JOSHUACANADA
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2308 Posts |
Posted - 05/28/2009 : 15:14:51
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quote:
Originally posted by hockster
quote:
Originally posted by hanley6
Toskala and Kubina and 3rd round to the New York Islanders for 1st round draft pick and Bruno Gervais
No Way!!!
Isles would never do that!!!! Terrible Deal!!!!
Iginla for 2010 team captain.
Flames for cup...eventually.
Had to look Bruno up. Too funny |
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hanley6
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 05/28/2009 : 15:37:28
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Originally posted by JOSHUACANADA
quote:
Originally posted by hockster
quote:
Originally posted by hanley6
Toskala and Kubina and 3rd round to the New York Islanders for 1st round draft pick and Bruno Gervais
No Way!!!
Isles would never do that!!!! Terrible Deal!!!!
Iginla for 2010 team captain.
Flames for cup...eventually.
Had to look Bruno up. Too funny
haha he's there 2nd best d man |
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Guest0213
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Posted - 05/28/2009 : 17:27:36
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Why would the islanders trade for Toskala when they have DiPietro signed for the next 3 decades. To get that 1st overall pick the leafs would have to trade Kaberle, Schenn and the 7th pick at a minimum (which would hopefully have been moved up to a top 4 pick for the islanders to bite). Actually that might be too much...
How about this scenario:
TOR - Toskala, Kubina, Tlusty and the 7th pick
for
ATL - Lehtonen, Angelo Esposito and 4th pick
then
TOR - Kaberle, Schenn, 4th pick (One of Tavares, Duchene or Kane)
for
NYI - Okposo or Bailey and 1st overall pick (pick hedman to make up for Schenn)
Not sure if that make's T.O. worse, but it definately makes the team younger and adds a lot of cap flexibility.
Just throwing ideas out there. If the Atl deal worked it might be good enough to stop there as you'd have schenn and then one of those top 4 picks on the team... That deal might also require Kaberle instead of Kubina.
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Guest4098
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Posted - 05/28/2009 : 18:18:56
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Originally posted by Guest9838
Thinking about it Stajan may not be the right piece here, perhaps Mitchell, Pony or Hagman, no one really near Horcoff though if you're comparing to Beans' edmonton trade, T.O just doesn't have the pieces... but a top 3 pick this year might be the draw if Burke could swing it, imagine a chance at Hedman, Tavares or Duchene
if you could get one of those three why make the trade |
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hanley6
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 05/28/2009 : 18:54:17
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quote:
Originally posted by Guest0213
Why would the islanders trade for Toskala when they have DiPietro signed for the next 3 decades. To get that 1st overall pick the leafs would have to trade Kaberle, Schenn and the 7th pick at a minimum (which would hopefully have been moved up to a top 4 pick for the islanders to bite). Actually that might be too much...
How about this scenario:
TOR - Toskala, Kubina, Tlusty and the 7th pick
for
ATL - Lehtonen, Angelo Esposito and 4th pick
then
TOR - Kaberle, Schenn, 4th pick (One of Tavares, Duchene or Kane)
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NYI - Okposo or Bailey and 1st overall pick (pick hedman to make up for Schenn)
Not sure if that make's T.O. worse, but it definately makes the team younger and adds a lot of cap flexibility.
Just throwing ideas out there. If the Atl deal worked it might be good enough to stop there as you'd have schenn and then one of those top 4 picks on the team... That deal might also require Kaberle instead of Kubina.
yeah and how many games did DiPietro play this past season? 5??? maybe they need a backup in case DiPietro has another injury season like this past year... |
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Guest6228
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Posted - 05/29/2009 : 07:46:26
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Ott- campbell
Chicago- Fisher and smith.
ottawa gets puck moving defencemen, chicago gets veteran presence on the back end, and a hard hitting forward to play behind toews. chicago also gets rid of his contract when keith and seabrook are the 1-2 punch.
Tor- Gomez and Redden and 2009 1st
NYR- Blake and Kaberle
Just thinking about it.
ott- cheechoo
san jose - kuba
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JOSHUACANADA
PickupHockey Veteran
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Posted - 05/29/2009 : 10:37:22
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Originally posted by Guest6228
Ott- campbell
Chicago- Fisher and smith.
ottawa gets puck moving defencemen, chicago gets veteran presence on the back end, and a hard hitting forward to play behind toews. chicago also gets rid of his contract when keith and seabrook are the 1-2 punch.
Tor- Gomez and Redden and 2009 1st
NYR- Blake and Kaberle
Just thinking about it.
ott- cheechoo
san jose - kuba
History says Ottawa will make dumb trade like this and piss me off again. Cheechoo can't repeat, because Thorton can make Chris Simon a top ten scorer, but Thorton doesn't shoot a lot so you cover the pass. Kuba is that puck moving defenseman they need, but you are right Campbell might be an upgrade. However, if Ottawa loses another Offensively talented forward I am going to shred my fan card. Heatly, Alfie and Spezza cannot win every game on there own. |
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Guest8571
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Posted - 05/29/2009 : 13:43:14
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Hey leafs fans like i
Why not trade Blake to ottawa for their sixth round pick this year..
Use that open money from blake to get Sundin!!! |
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hanley6
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 05/30/2009 : 16:40:48
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quote:
Originally posted by Guest8571
Hey leafs fans like i
Why not trade Blake to ottawa for their sixth round pick this year..
Use that open money from blake to get Sundin!!!
Not a chance |
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Matt_Roberts85
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 06/01/2009 : 07:53:16
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quote:
Originally posted by hanley6
quote:
Originally posted by Guest8571
Hey leafs fans like i
Why not trade Blake to ottawa for their sixth round pick this year..
Use that open money from blake to get Sundin!!!
Not a chance
Hanley.... hes playin' with you....
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E". |
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Larrydavid
Top Prospect
Canada
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Posted - 06/01/2009 : 09:06:06
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| Malkin to Chicago for Seabrook, Keith, one of their wingers and maybe some draft picks going both ways. |
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Rambo2305
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 06/02/2009 : 12:19:46
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To Anahiem:
- F Jason Blake
- G Justin Pogge
- 1st Round Pick
- 3rd Round Pick
To Toronto:
- F Ryan Getzlaf
- G J.S. Giguere
"Most people spend time and energy going around problems, rather than trying to solve them" - Henry Ford |
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MSC
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 06/02/2009 : 12:24:47
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| Getzlaf is even more untouchable then Schenn. |
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Guest9838
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Posted - 06/02/2009 : 13:04:59
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Totally agreed, Rambo your Anaheim Toronto trade would go down as one of the worst trades in NHL history.
to make that even remotely possible you'd need something like:
Schenn, Kaberle, 1st pick 09, 1st pick 10, Another pick, Pogge (a throw in goalie), and maybe another prospect (a forward).
for
Getzlaf, Giguere, and they could probably throw in a 2nd/3rd rnd pick or a defense prospect.
I mean who wouldn't want a 23 yr old proven franchise forward for the next 4 years for a cap hit of 5.325/yr |
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Posted - 06/02/2009 : 17:06:56
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I noticed a lot of these trades involve UFAs. Why trade for the Sedins, Ohlund etc if you can get them for nothing (other than their cap hit.)
Here's one that was actually proposed at the deadline and may still happen:
To Bolts:
Higgings, Plekanec, Gorges and a pick
To Habs:
Vinny Lecavalier
Another that I'd like to see:
To Isles:
Komisarek, Higgins <---- both from Long Island
To Habs:
Streit and a pick |
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Guest7281
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Posted - 06/02/2009 : 17:10:58
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Originally posted by MSC
Getzlaf is even more untouchable then Schenn.
Even if he were touchable, why the f*** would you take Jason Blake? He had one good year and the Leafs jumped all over him as their saviour. Yes, he had cancer. No, he wouldn't have scored 40 again even if he didnt. JFJ is my favorite GM for the Maple Laffs ever. He set that team back 5 years as GM, I can think of nothing better in the world than that.
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Guest6228
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Posted - 06/04/2009 : 08:06:02
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If the Leafs want to move up in the draft so bad and the isle want to retool that bad look at this..
isls get 2nd pick overall, 2nd rnd in 2010, 4th rnd in 2009
tampa get 1st overall (hedman)
then 3 way trade
tor 2nd pick
isle 5th pick , kaberle, (tor) 2nd rnd pick 09 (someone like hagman)
La 7th pick (tor) 2nd rnd in 2010 maybe something small from tor..
islanders get defence, more prospects, still a top pick in number 5.. evander kane ! tb get what they want, and LA gets the short end in this deal.. i dont know what La would want. what do ppl think? |
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Posted - 06/04/2009 : 09:49:04
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There's no reason for there to be three teams in that deal, guest 6228.
To the Isles: Kaberle, Blake, 7th pick
To the Leafs: 2nd pick, Hunter
Win-win - the Isles still have a decent pick in a deep draft, and instead of waiting for Hedman to develop, get a very productive top-end D-man in Kaberle and get back Blake who is playing very well again it seems. They now have an experienced and potent backend with Streit and Kaberle, and they'll be injected with some scoring power which they sorely need with Blake and the 7th pick (Duchesne or Kane).
Toronto moves up the draft as desired, replacing Kaberle (potent offence, soft defence) with their future A defenceman (Hedman - potentially potent offence and awesome defence) or better yet get Tavares (potential superstar); they get rid of a smothering contract in Blake who is not in their future plans; and they pick up a big young forward with some scoring touch who gets a chance with a new team to make the second line.
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Guest9838
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Posted - 06/04/2009 : 10:59:31
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| slozo, the leafs have the 7th pick currently (unless I've missed something). |
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Posted - 06/04/2009 : 11:08:44
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Thanks 9838, I've corrected it now.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
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