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Posted - 08/30/2009 :  07:35:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mm. Taking a look at it now, Edmonton's D is a bit better than I thought . . . but Beans:

I will take your bet.

So, if I understand correctly:
1. I win if Toronto finishes higher than either Ottawa OR Edmonton.
2. You win if Toronto finishes lower than both Ottawa AND Edmonton.

What'll the wager be?

"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
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Beans15
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Posted - 08/30/2009 :  15:46:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is the bet my Man. The wager........ I'll put some though into it. If you have any suggestions, I am open.
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Posted - 08/30/2009 :  18:15:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I got it!!!
Man, this one is soooo good, it'll be a classic.

Ok, let's take two of our most hated teams in the equation - for me, to be fair, it has to be Ottawa, as I already sort of cheer for Edmonton as my second team in the west. For you, I am guessing it is Toronto.

If I lose the bet, I change picture/icon to a logo of the Ottawa Senators, and have the byline "I Love Ottawa" on the bottom of every comment I post.

If you lose Beans, you change your picture/icon to that of theToronto Maple Leafs, and have the byline "I love Toronto" on the bottom of every comment you post.

The time that either of us would have to have this most hated of logos and horrid untruthful statement would be from the day after the regular season ends, to the end of the playoffs. Of course, this would have maximum effect, as the comments are always flying during the playoffs, and would be especially poignant if either the Leafs or Oilers or Sens actually made the playoffs.

A month of horrible pain and embarrassment for the loser, and a really good long months worth of chuckles for the winner.

What do you say?

"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
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Beans15
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Posted - 08/31/2009 :  12:11:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Done. It's a bet

(Insert Hearty Manly Handshake here)

Although I am confident, I seem to lose bets involving Edmonton. Last time I made a similar bet, I was wearing a dress, bbqing burgers for all the people at work.

Good Luck Slozo. You are going to need it!

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Matt_Roberts85
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Posted - 08/31/2009 :  12:29:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
haha, can't wait to see how this turns out

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E".
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Posted - 08/31/2009 :  18:05:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
(shakes hand)
DONE!

This will be fun, at any rate. I really can't believe I gave myself the chance to have to feel the utter shame and ignomy of bearing the Sens colours . . . ugh. And I am the same as you Beans, whenever I bet on my Leafs, I generally lose, so even though the odds are with me (you need two teams to do better than my one), I am nervous. Good luck indeed!

Is it wrong of me wish injury to Khabibulin at this stage?

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Beans15
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Posted - 08/31/2009 :  18:10:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nope wish away. I would expect nothing less.

However, with this bet now on the line, I might be forced to hope Hanley's rhetoric comes true and Toskala actually is the worst goalie in the NHL. And ACL injury to Kaberle wouldn't hurt much either.

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Alex116
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Posted - 09/01/2009 :  07:40:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What happens if the three teams tie? Do you both have to change your pics? Or do the rest of us have to?
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Posted - 09/01/2009 :  09:58:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Since Beans has two teams that have to beat my one team, in the very unlikely instance that all three teams tie, I will give it to Beans.

However, it ain't happenin'.
I think.

"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
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Leafs81
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Posted - 09/01/2009 :  16:04:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Go Slozo!!!

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Beans15
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Posted - 09/02/2009 :  08:27:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's not possible for a tie. There is always a tie breaker. Just like in the NHL standings, if tied in points, head to head records. If still tied, Goals For, etc.

Same rules apply. When the Leafs are the team lowest of the overall standings comparative to Edmonton and Ottawa, I will win the bet.

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Odin
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Canada
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Posted - 09/02/2009 :  08:57:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Joshua, you were absolutely correct. The Sens were actually 1.3M over the cap. Now that Smith has retired, they actually have a little bit of cap space. They are looking at signing Sykora.
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Posted - 09/02/2009 :  13:58:48  Reply with Quote
Still leaves them over if you count the bonus money, but I still think they will have a few 2 way contracts going back to the minors and not affect the cap. Way too many prospect centers signed and prospect D-men. What this team is lacking is some prospect winger to round out the mix. In the mean time the are going to have to develop a dual purpose winger out of some of these Center/D-men prospects.

The sky is not falling on Ottawa this season whether or not Heatly situation is solved early in the year or late. My wish is for him to find common ground with this team in preseason and remember why the top line was the most productive line for the last 4-5 years, and stay.
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Odin
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Posted - 09/02/2009 :  15:21:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest3341

Still leaves them over if you count the bonus money, but I still think they will have a few 2 way contracts going back to the minors and not affect the cap. Way too many prospect centers signed and prospect D-men. What this team is lacking is some prospect winger to round out the mix. In the mean time the are going to have to develop a dual purpose winger out of some of these Center/D-men prospects.

The sky is not falling on Ottawa this season whether or not Heatly situation is solved early in the year or late. My wish is for him to find common ground with this team in preseason and remember why the top line was the most productive line for the last 4-5 years, and stay.



They ARE NOT over the cap, they are about 1.3M under.

Ottawa Sun: The decision by Smith will allow Murray and the Senators to wipe his $2.6 million salary off their cap this year. That gives the Senators some flexibility because the club was sitting about $1.3 million over the NHL salary cap.
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Matt_Roberts85
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Posted - 09/03/2009 :  08:32:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Riddle me this, Riddle me that, why do you think the sens won't fall flat?

Since about November of '07 the sens have been pretty much a laughing stock franchise. The once cup contenders have been terrible and have gone through 4 different head coaches in that time. I know that they played well down the stretch last year but we all know how easy it is to play well once you have nothing to play for (right Leaf fans?) Now, with pretty much the same core returning (switch Kovelev for Heatley) why do some think that the sens will be better?

Some will point to goaltending, other to the new coach, but I think that this franchise is such a mess right now that it will be hard for them to excel on the ice. I could be completley wrong and the sens get a great package for Heatley and they really help the on ice product and Kovalev plays like he did 2 years ago, but I still don't see enough culture change in Ottawa to convince me that this year will be much different than the last 2...

im sure some will disagree.

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E".
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Odin
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Posted - 09/03/2009 :  09:38:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Matt_Roberts85

Riddle me this, Riddle me that, why do you think the sens won't fall flat?

Since about November of '07 the sens have been pretty much a laughing stock franchise. The once cup contenders have been terrible and have gone through 4 different head coaches in that time. I know that they played well down the stretch last year but we all know how easy it is to play well once you have nothing to play for (right Leaf fans?) Now, with pretty much the same core returning (switch Kovelev for Heatley) why do some think that the sens will be better?

Some will point to goaltending, other to the new coach, but I think that this franchise is such a mess right now that it will be hard for them to excel on the ice. I could be completley wrong and the sens get a great package for Heatley and they really help the on ice product and Kovalev plays like he did 2 years ago, but I still don't see enough culture change in Ottawa to convince me that this year will be much different than the last 2...

im sure some will disagree.

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E".



Well, actually as it stands, they have Heatley, and Murray is talking trade deadline. The more this goes, the more it looks like Heatley will be a Sen for the foreseeable future. That would also be backed up by the apparent lack of bonafide offers.

That means with the addition of Kovalev, they could actually ice two good lines for a change: Heatley/Spezza/whoever(maybe Foligno?) and Alfie/Kovalev and probably Fisher. Not too bad. For those that are iffy about Heatley, remember the Olympics.

They also may finally have a bonafide #1 goalie in Leclaire and the coach did demonstrate that he maybe knows what he is doing. I say 'maybe' because I agree with your assertion that once you are eliminated you play much more loose.
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JOSHUACANADA
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Canada
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Posted - 09/03/2009 :  12:14:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
While I do agree playing loose without the possibilty of a reward can happen, I think they were playing for 8th with 20-25 games left to play. Once that team got a taste of winning again it became contagious.

Biggest weakness I can see when looking at roster is the severe lack of defensive depth and no real quarterback for the powerplay on D. They are relying on Kuba and Campoli for the big shot. Would rather see a Chara Back there

You are one of the few who still consider them on the outside looking in. Most have expressed this team will be in the running for 8th some project them as high as 5th. Id be happy with another post season birth regardless of roster or positioning.
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Posted - 09/03/2009 :  12:19:59  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Odin

Joshua, you were absolutely correct. The Sens were actually 1.3M over the cap. Now that Smith has retired, they actually have a little bit of cap space. They are looking at signing Sykora.

Sykora! Really! Man if that guy can play like he has in the past I say it would be a good pickup. I dont know why his play slided in Pittsburg.
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JOSHUACANADA
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Canada
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Posted - 09/03/2009 :  15:02:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest3341

quote:
Originally posted by Odin

Joshua, you were absolutely correct. The Sens were actually 1.3M over the cap. Now that Smith has retired, they actually have a little bit of cap space. They are looking at signing Sykora.

Sykora! Really! Man if that guy can play like he has in the past I say it would be a good pickup. I dont know why his play slided in Pittsburg.

Sorry this was my post. I dont know why I keep logging out. I'd be a HOF candidate if most of my post werent by a guest#.
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redneck76ca
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Posted - 09/03/2009 :  18:03:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JOSHUACANADA

quote:
Originally posted by Guest3341

quote:
Originally posted by Odin

Joshua, you were absolutely correct. The Sens were actually 1.3M over the cap. Now that Smith has retired, they actually have a little bit of cap space. They are looking at signing Sykora.

Sykora! Really! Man if that guy can play like he has in the past I say it would be a good pickup. I dont know why his play slided in Pittsburg.

Sorry this was my post. I dont know why I keep logging out. I'd be a HOF candidate if most of my post werent by a guest#.


I'm having the same log in problem as well. Don't know whats happening.
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