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Axey
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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 Posted - 08/23/2009 : 12:22:54
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As I sit and take in the far overrated Hurricane Bill that was supposed to destroy everything in it's path and it has done very little compared to what the weather folks have said, it gave me an idea for a topic with the obvious favourite being Tavares for the Calder who do you think will win it?
Will it be the playoff gem Varlomov? The CHL player of the year Cody Hodgson? The new stud on the blueline for Tampa, Victor Hedman? Or will it be a 25 year old Leino who had 14 points in 13 games last year on detroit team with some spots opening up after Hossa, Samuelsson and Hudler all leaving? Or could it be some random, state your case for who you think it will be.
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Edited by - Axey on 08/23/2009 22:20:29
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Guest0995
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Posted - 08/23/2009 : 15:15:17
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Other possibles would be Helm, Filatov, Pietrangelo, Boychuk and Van Riemsdyk.
I think Brassard is inelligible at this point, but if he is he'd have a great chance.
I think it's going to be a tough year, Tavares is the front runner but if he doesn't have the support to pile on pts (which seems to be the case on the island) he may not succeed at this level or at least have a tough year like Stamkos did (30-50 pt range).
If Varlamov gets the call as the no.1 goalie in Wsh he may have the best shot, he'll wrack of the wins and most likely post great numbers. |
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sharksfan44
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 08/23/2009 : 15:24:53
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| i agree guest0995. i don't think tavares is going to have enough support. but u never know. Matt duchene may be in the same boat as tavares, although if he plays with uys like stastny 9and he stays healthy) he could put up some decent numbers. I think evander kane could suprise alot of people also. But, i still think it's going to come down to Hedman vs Varlomov. Varlomov has a great team ahead of him and Hedman is on a team that i think is going to have a much better year than their most recent ones. |
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Guest0995
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Posted - 08/23/2009 : 15:42:09
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Thanks,
I probably shouldn't have added Helm, but I just like the way he played in the playoffs.
Routing for Hodgson though. |
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sharksfan44
Rookie
Canada
228 Posts |
Posted - 08/23/2009 : 15:52:27
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| ya, i liked how he played too. He looks like a promising young player. You never know, he could very well be in the running. I really like Hodgson too. Depends how much of the season he spends playing in the nhl. hopefully the whole year, but he could get sent down to the minors if he starts to struggle. |
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Guest2253
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Posted - 08/23/2009 : 19:48:17
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I think Van Riemsdyk wont play this year because of salary cap issues in Philadelphia.
I say Hedman will win it by having good ice time and he will run a good power play with Lecavalier and co. Hedman will probably also have good defensive responsabilities. He's the perfect fit in Tampa Bay. |
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Matt_Roberts85
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 08/24/2009 : 10:42:02
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I think it will be Hedman. THe talent he has to work with in TB will make a big difference. Hodgson could really have a strong year as well, but with the depth in the canucks lineup he may not get the ice time required to post calder like numbers.
Filatov is in the mix for me as well... the kid has unreal skill.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E". |
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redneck76ca
Rookie
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Posted - 08/24/2009 : 19:23:23
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Originally posted by Matt_Roberts85
I think it will be Hedman. THe talent he has to work with in TB will make a big difference. Hodgson could really have a strong year as well, but with the depth in the canucks lineup he may not get the ice time required to post calder like numbers.
Filatov is in the mix for me as well... the kid has unreal skill.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E".
Can anyone tell me the last time a defender won the Calder? There have only been 3 Calder winning defencemen since 1989. Leetch, Berard and most recently Barret Jackman in 2003. Its very hard for a rookie dman to be that good in his NHL debutorial season. I'm not saying that Hedman isn't of that quality, in fact, I think he has a great shot at attaining this.
Personally, I think that Taveres and Hodgson will duke it out. Or atleast, I want Hodgson in there. |
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sharksfan44
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 08/24/2009 : 19:46:27
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| good point redneck, but the thing about tavares is that he's got no one to play with. but hey u never know. Hodson has a very good chance of winning the calder. i think it's gunna be a three way battle for the calder between hedman, hodgson and varlamov. I'm going to leave tavares out of the top three only because i don't think he's going to be able to put up the numbers that he would need to compete for the calder down in long island. but i could be wrong. |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 08/24/2009 : 21:09:30
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I think I'll reserve by judgement until I know what rookies are actually playing. Maybe Tavares, Hedmen, and the likes won't even be on the big team this year.
Way, way way too early to tell. |
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Guest9838
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Posted - 08/25/2009 : 06:27:30
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I think we can be pretty sure Tavares will be playing. Hedman isn't a sure thing, but is probable to make the team. Varlamov will defintately have a chance to prove himself. And guys like Leino have graduated to fill the spots of UFA losses.
But you're right guys like Duchene, Van Riemsdyk, Hodgson, Kane, Pietrangelo, etc ... well they're a wait and see game.
Or you could always get someone come out of nowhere like Mason or Versteeg. |
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MSC
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 08/25/2009 : 06:34:46
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| Mason came out of nowhere? It's quite possible he came out of nowhere to a big soccer fan who watches hockey highlights, but anyone who follows hockey was not suprised to see Mason in the league. |
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Matt_Roberts85
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 08/25/2009 : 07:01:09
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I'll be shocked if Hedman isn't on the big club. They are desperate for fan interest and having Hedman play increases the star power of the TB lineup. Plus, they signed Ohlund to help mentor this kid. I know Ohlund has a ridiculously long deal and he'll be there for a while but I imagine they want them to start working together right away.
If Hedman is QBing a PP with Stamkos, Malone, Lecavalier and St Louis all year he could have some pretty impressive numbers. But then again if the Lightning aren't very good and he plays alot his +/- will suffer.
But yea, point well taken, Dmen don't usually excel in their rookie season but this kid is special.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E". |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 08/25/2009 : 07:44:31
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Originally posted by MSC
Mason came out of nowhere? It's quite possible he came out of nowhere to a big soccer fan who watches hockey highlights, but anyone who follows hockey was not suprised to see Mason in the league.
Pretty sure what he meant was he wasn't projected to be a Calder candidate in most circles. Playing on a mediocre team as a goalie won't get you much attention when Calder discussions come around before a season begins. It's like the so called MONSTER in TO. Haven't heard his name mentioned much in Calder talks have you??? |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 08/25/2009 : 08:20:09
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Originally posted by Alex116
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Originally posted by MSC
Mason came out of nowhere? It's quite possible he came out of nowhere to a big soccer fan who watches hockey highlights, but anyone who follows hockey was not suprised to see Mason in the league.
Pretty sure what he meant was he wasn't projected to be a Calder candidate in most circles. Playing on a mediocre team as a goalie won't get you much attention when Calder discussions come around before a season begins. It's like the so called MONSTER in TO. Haven't heard his name mentioned much in Calder talks have you???
I'm pretty sure there has never been a back up goalie to win the Calder and "The Monster" will be the back up goalie in TO. Unless Toskala's still injured or simply doesn't want to play there any longer. |
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Guest9838
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Posted - 08/25/2009 : 11:04:53
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Soccer? That was random.
C'mon, don't even begin to tell me that you predicted Pascal Leclaire getting injured and losing his no.1 goalie position after a 24-17 year with 9 shutouts, 2.25 GAA and .919 Sv% in 2007-08.
In 2008-09 Mason wasn't even supposed to be the backup, Norrena was. This was a 20 year old kid. 20 year olds generally aren't NHL starters in net. Yes he played great for the WJ and won gold, and had good junior numbers, but to say he didn't come out of nowhere to win the Calder is ridculous. Being an injury call up in Nov and holding onto the starters job throughout the year, and posting the numbers he did... nobody could have predicted that. How many people in your pools drafted Mason?? Did you?
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MSC
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 08/25/2009 : 12:24:37
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| Yes, him coming up as a 20 year old was a suprise. My point is that anyone who follows hockey and didn't believe Mason had the tools to jump to the league at a young age and become an impact player immediately is a fool. LeClaire had a good year in 08, however it was his first time since he came into the league that he looked like anything more then a career back up. I myself had little doubt Mason would overtake LeClaire sooner then later in the depth chart. In fact I would be willing to bet Mason would have been the starter by the start of the 10 season even if LeClaire never got hurt or traded. Posting GAA at or above 3.00 on a defensive minded team in NOT indicative of a future star in this league. |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 08/25/2009 : 13:37:17
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Beans (and MSC for that matter)....maybe reread what i said? I believe 9838 was just saying that someone who's maybe not in the discussion at this point "could" win the Calder? Beans, is that not what happened last year? Did you hear ANYONE predicting him to win it? NO, because like "Monster", he wasn't expected to play enough. That's not to say MSC, that no one thought that Mason would ONE DAY be the go to guy and have a shot at a Calder, just not last years!
You guys must not understand what he was trying to say. |
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Guest9838
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Posted - 08/25/2009 : 14:13:58
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That is exactly what I meant.
It could be someone off the radar for this upcoming year. |
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JOSHUACANADA
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 08/26/2009 : 14:52:30
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Originally posted by MSC
Yes, him coming up as a 20 year old was a suprise. My point is that anyone who follows hockey and didn't believe Mason had the tools to jump to the league at a young age and become an impact player immediately is a fool. LeClaire had a good year in 08, however it was his first time since he came into the league that he looked like anything more then a career back up. I myself had little doubt Mason would overtake LeClaire sooner then later in the depth chart. In fact I would be willing to bet Mason would have been the starter by the start of the 10 season even if LeClaire never got hurt or traded. Posting GAA at or above 3.00 on a defensive minded team in NOT indicative of a future star in this league.
Not a 100% certain when Leclair ever did thoughs stats you refered to, but one thing I know for absolute certain is your comment before hand was dumb, and you were as usual trolling on a comment to make another poster look dumb.
Show me someone, anyone last year, at this time who said Mason for calder. Not taking away from his ability and his record in the little leagues but come on. For him to overtake Leclair and then become the calder with a proven #1 already signed long term was farfetched in fairytale terms. It took an amazing set of circumstances for him to even get his shot. |
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50brent
Top Prospect
Canada
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Posted - 08/28/2009 : 14:25:05
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| My two picks would have to be Nikita Filatov and Cody Hodgson, but if i have to choose one it would be Cody Hodgson, because he was the chl player of the year and he showed a lot of leadership and talent at the world juniors last year. |
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2009-10 Calder Candidates 
