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B-rett10
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Posted - 12/07/2006 :  20:02:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Poll Question:
Should they allow the spin-a-rama in the shootout?

Choices:

Yes (tell me your take on it)
No (tell me your take on it)

bablaboushka
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Posted - 12/07/2006 :  20:57:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why not? It's 100% legal and it's hard to pull off = awesome to watch.
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Guest4615
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Posted - 12/07/2006 :  21:02:02  Reply with Quote
I saw it the one the other night - It was sick! Cant remember who did it but it was awesome.
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bablaboushka
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Posted - 12/07/2006 :  21:20:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pierre-Marc Bouchard. I think he wanted to do it because his brother tried it in the Q but didn't score. Big brother always has to show off to the younger one!

Edited by - bablaboushka on 12/07/2006 21:20:35
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Guest8985
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Posted - 12/08/2006 :  15:03:59  Reply with Quote
I remember Ryan Shannon trying it on Marty Turco but Turco saved it
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semin-rules
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Posted - 12/08/2006 :  15:14:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hey its semin from lincoln middle school!!!!!!!! of course its allowed its a hard trick to do and whoever does it should be alowed to score wiht it

matt
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Trevman12
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Posted - 12/08/2006 :  16:13:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes. There is nothing wrong with it. If a player has enogh guts to actually try it, congrats to them
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Trevman12
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Posted - 12/08/2006 :  16:15:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
*enough
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framer87
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Posted - 12/08/2006 :  17:27:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
why not theres no rule saying you cant

Go pens
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Guest4608
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Posted - 12/08/2006 :  22:20:25  Reply with Quote
I no it's a legal move, but i'm just wondering what u guys think about it.
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B-rett10
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Posted - 12/08/2006 :  22:32:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Spin-a-rama is amazing to me, when Bouchard pulled it off a couple nights ago it was just great.
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B-rett10
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Posted - 12/09/2006 :  23:25:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just plain love the move!

Edited by - B-rett10 on 12/10/2006 20:02:43
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1 Crosby fan
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Posted - 12/10/2006 :  00:06:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's fun to watch because it's haed to pull of
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Guest4640
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Posted - 12/10/2006 :  06:08:33  Reply with Quote
hi guys its a beauty too watch ,,but the rule states that the puck must always be in forward motion ,,when u spin the puck for a short time is going backwards ,,,too bad
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bablaboushka
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Posted - 12/10/2006 :  13:47:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not if you do it correctly. Ryan Shannon and P-M Bouchard had it always moving forward and the league even looked at their shots and deemed them legal. It just means you have to start spinning earlier, to have room to move the puck ahead.
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1 Crosby fan
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Posted - 12/10/2006 :  15:38:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bablaboushka

Not if you do it correctly. Ryan Shannon and P-M Bouchard had it always moving forward and the league even looked at their shots and deemed them legal. It just means you have to start spinning earlier, to have room to move the puck ahead.

True
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framer87
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Posted - 12/11/2006 :  14:01:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Agreed

Go pens
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ultimatetitman
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Posted - 12/11/2006 :  14:03:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't have a problem with any player using a spin-o-rama in a shoot out, but I do have a problem with the spin-o-rama you refer too. There is NO doubt that he interfered with the goalie and completely prevented the goalie from moving to his left to make the save. It doesn't matter whether or not he could have made the save, it matters only that he didn't have that chance.
As far as the puck having to maintain forward momentum, it's a moot point. Even if he did move the puck away from the net, so what? How many players have deked a goalie by faking a shot, then pulling the puck back to go the other way? It's absolutely uncallable.
I personally think the shoot out is a joke in a team game, but as long as we have to watch it, I hope the creativity meter keeps moving up!
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Guest8888
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Posted - 12/11/2006 :  15:29:59  Reply with Quote
I managed to pull off the spin-a-rama in practice last night.
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bablaboushka
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Posted - 12/11/2006 :  15:48:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not sure about the rule, but I didn't think it mattered about the puck. I thought as long as the shooter has forward momentum the whole way through. Some moves involve bringing the puck back and even the technique of stickhandling when the puck is at your side involves bringing the puck backward, be it a very short distance.

Titster you bring up a good point about the goalie not having a chance. But can the player who has possession of the puck be called for goalie interference? I can't picture how he could because the premise of it doesn't make sense to me. I think in a 1-on-1 situation, it is the goalie's responsibility to make sure he has proper positioning to be able to make a save wherever the puck may be. If this is the case, I think the move is genius and goalies will have to find a way to react quicker.

Edited by - bablaboushka on 12/11/2006 15:53:32
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luckyluc
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Posted - 12/11/2006 :  15:52:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think that it is too much to have to slow every deke down to make sure the puck is always moving forward. Plenty of dekes have the puck puled back and then forward again so quickly that it would be insane to try to enforce this rule. What about the Pavel Bure stick-to-skate-to-stick move. Dont tell me that is against the rules.

Bouchard did interfere with him though. That was obvious.
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Guest1467
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Posted - 12/11/2006 :  15:59:08  Reply with Quote
the spinerama is wicked and requires awesome skill.

the rule on forward motion makes it even better when someone does pull it off. whoever has the guts to pull it off my hat goes off to them. i think the rule on forward movement is stupid anyway, i think they should get rid of that.
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1 Crosby fan
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Posted - 12/11/2006 :  16:55:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i think so to
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B-rett10
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Posted - 12/12/2006 :  05:57:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I really like the talk going on here
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ultimatetitman
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Posted - 12/12/2006 :  14:49:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bablaboushka

I
Titster you bring up a good point about the goalie not having a chance. But can the player who has possession of the puck be called for goalie interference?


NHL Rule 78 states that "Goals should be disallowed only if: (1) an attacking player, either by his positioning or by contact, impairs the goalkeeper's ability to move freely within his crease or defend his goal; or (2) an attacking player initiates more than incidental contact with a goalkeeper, inside or outside of his goal crease. "
As for the motion of the puck, Rule 30 states "The puck must be kept in motion towards the opponent's goal line and once it is shot, the play shall be considered complete. "
I think we all agree that this is far too literal.
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bablaboushka
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Posted - 12/12/2006 :  15:18:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well it is so literal that it isn't logical. When a player stickhandles, the puck is not always in forward motion toward the goalline. It clearly refers to this act before the player shoots as "and once it is shot" follows. So TECHNICALLY speaking, none of the shootout goals should have counted?

Edited by - bablaboushka on 12/12/2006 15:18:39
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Guest4785
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Posted - 12/12/2006 :  15:53:41  Reply with Quote
broduer actually brought this up with the leauge. i think it iz ok to do if you dont interfere with the goalie but what bouchard did shouldnt of counted because he hit the goalie.
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B-rett10
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Posted - 12/12/2006 :  19:32:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Exactly Luck luc i agree lots!
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Mikhailova
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Posted - 12/17/2006 :  09:44:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah--why not allow it?

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Guest4689
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Posted - 12/17/2006 :  12:20:10  Reply with Quote
Of Course
Spin-o-rama is a sweet move
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B-rett10
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Posted - 12/17/2006 :  13:55:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On friday night my hockey team went to a shootout and this kid from the other team pulled it off and scored it was nice.
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Guest5144
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Posted - 09/25/2008 :  13:40:37  Reply with Quote
the thing ive always found iffy about the spin o rama is at seems illegal because the players making backwards progress. i dunno, i guess ti just depends if the refs have a bug uptheir ass or not.
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Guest5628
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Posted - 09/25/2008 :  16:01:40  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest8985

I remember Ryan Shannon trying it on Marty Turco but Turco saved it



he scored it. i dunno if he tried it once, but youtube that s*** he scores.
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