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B-rett10
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Posted - 12/08/2006 :  22:43:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Poll Question:
Who is a better all around player?

Choices:


(Anonymous Vote)

Edited by - bablaboushka on 02/15/2007 22:10:09

B-rett10
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Posted - 12/08/2006 :  22:45:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have to say Hossa, not just because he is beating him in ponits this year, just because Hossa i think is more than a goal scorer and Kovalchuk is just a pure goal scorer.

Edited by - B-rett10 on 12/08/2006 22:46:00
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Posted - 12/09/2006 :  09:51:01  Reply with Quote
they are both great offensively but i think that Hossa is better defensively
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B-rett10
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Posted - 12/09/2006 :  23:22:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hossa is Great one of my favourtie players.
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1 Crosby fan
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Posted - 12/09/2006 :  23:51:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd say Hossa because he is better on defence
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B-rett10
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Posted - 12/10/2006 :  20:07:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Exactly you read my mind crosby fan.
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1 Crosby fan
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Posted - 12/10/2006 :  20:14:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by B-rett10

Exactly you read my mind crosby fan.

cool
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Trevman12
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Posted - 12/11/2006 :  19:04:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd have to say Kovalchuk. He does well every year, people are just saying hossa because he is doing really good right now.
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Kashmire
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Posted - 12/11/2006 :  19:18:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kovalchuk is the stronger of the two offensively, his mind set is all about scoring and settign up those plays. Hossa, while having a great offensive strength, is better than Kovalchuk, Kovelchuk can't defend at all. In the end i would want Kovalchuk though, hes just so smart and skilled.
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1 Crosby fan
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Posted - 12/11/2006 :  20:23:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't know anymore
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B-rett10
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Posted - 12/11/2006 :  20:25:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No "Trevman12" thats not it, Hossa has a better defensive game than Kovalchuk. So he is the better all around player.
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1 Crosby fan
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Posted - 12/11/2006 :  20:59:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by B-rett10

No "Trevman12" thats not it, Hossa has a better defensive game than Kovalchuk. So he is the better all around player.

yea
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Trevman12
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Posted - 12/12/2006 :  14:13:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
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Originally posted by B-rett10

No "Trevman12" thats not it, Hossa has a better defensive game than Kovalchuk. So he is the better all around player.

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Its based on opinion, I think it is Kovalchuk, you think it's hossa. That why there is a poll isn't it?
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B-rett10
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Posted - 12/12/2006 :  19:58:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok ok HOSSA!
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Kashmire
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Posted - 12/12/2006 :  20:40:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You talk of Hossa as if he is 2nd to Scott Neidermeyer in the defensive category. Hossa hasn't much skill for defense, he is overrated in this poll when comparing his defensive skills to Kovalchuk's. Yes, I know Kovalchuk has a poor defenseive game but Hossa doesn't have a that much better one. Just some different insite I thought might be interesting to share.
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1 Crosby fan
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Posted - 12/12/2006 :  20:42:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i really don't know because hossa is good but kovalchuck is also good
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bablaboushka
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Posted - 12/12/2006 :  21:08:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ahh but we must not forget, the best defense is a good offense!
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Posted - 12/12/2006 :  21:14:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bablaboushka

Ahh but we must not forget, the best defense is a good offense!

yes good point
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B-rett10
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Posted - 12/13/2006 :  19:45:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Also Defence wins championships.
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Mikhailova
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Posted - 12/21/2006 :  13:00:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bablaboushka

Ahh but we must not forget, the best defense is a good offense!



It is indeed

I said Kovalchuk but it was tough to choose
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Posted - 12/21/2006 :  13:43:18  Reply with Quote
neither is that good defensively.
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semin-rules
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Posted - 02/15/2007 :  19:43:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hossa.....

~~~~~GO STARS~~~~~
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PainTrain
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Posted - 03/05/2007 :  08:28:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hossa has 38 goals and 46 assists for 84 points and is a +16 while Kovalchuk has 34 goals and 28 assists for 62 points and is a -10 and in his past 5 seasons he is a -69 while Hossa is a +97 in 8 seasons.

Stats say Hossa is better and he is.

GO Sabres GO!!!!!
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bablaboushka
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Posted - 03/05/2007 :  08:50:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hossa plays with Kozlov. For most of the season Kovalchuk played with Metropolit and Jon Sim.

Hmm...
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Saku Steen
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Posted - 03/05/2007 :  12:25:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kovalchuk is better but its pretty close.
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tctitans
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Posted - 03/05/2007 :  12:28:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hossa's a winner.
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jbraiter
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Posted - 03/05/2007 :  13:36:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would normally say kovalchuk, but by the way he is playing Hossa

Go Canucks
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leafsfan1
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Posted - 03/31/2007 :  05:51:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i say hossa he is a great player
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Kovy_Sniper
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Posted - 02/10/2008 :  16:14:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i know its been months since somebody actually posted here... BUT....

id pick Kovalchuk

I went to see ATL play in ottawa with year... and ATL was down 5 - 0 in the 3rd with about 11 minutes left... ilya kovalchuk took over the game by scoring a hat tick while eric perrin also scored once to make the game 5 - 4... but Kovalchuks 3 goals were all by sher talent and the ability to shoot the puck, his 2nd being his classic slap shot goal walking in from the point this time on the right side, and his 3rd goal he jumped around Mike Fisher and walked in and shot the puck putting it RIGHT under the bar... making it a 5 - 4 game and it was so exciting Hossa was no where to be found that game.... now im not say only cause of this game i'd pick kovalchuk, ive been a fan for a while and hes got the talent to take over games and he can literaly score from anywhere


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Leafsfan_94
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Posted - 02/10/2008 :  16:25:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by B-rett10

Who is a better all around player?



kovalchuck is a more taented player. stacks up more points,makes plays scores goals and his goals are better too. doesnt take too many penalities(like hossa, we all rememebr what he did to bryan berard.

so ya

kovalchuk's got my vote


>>>Go Leafs Go<<<
Leafsfan_94

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semin-rules
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Posted - 02/10/2008 :  18:12:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ilya is just a great player,
he has it all
there is nothign you cant not like about him.
Hossa is good,
Ilya though, I think is just a smidge better

~~~GO STARS~~~
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Alex
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Posted - 02/22/2008 :  09:25:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
IN terms of fantasy value, I would watch out for Hossa, as he very likely may get traded to a cup contender which would help his value. If you need to shake things up quick, take a chance on him.

Habs get number 25 this year
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brentrock2
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Posted - 11/11/2008 :  03:37:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Picked Hossa because he is a awesome goal scorer and Kovalchuk is a very good goal scorerand Kovalchuk don't pass as much.Oh yeah Farablill enough websites.
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Posted - 11/11/2008 :  13:43:57  Reply with Quote
kovalchuck is way better offensivley (picked him in my pool) I think the only reason hossa would get more points is because he plays with datsyuc and holmstrom but hossa is better defensivley
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Thrasher
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Posted - 11/30/2008 :  17:45:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest8985

they are both great offensively but i think that Hossa is better defensively



wow understatement of the year....
have you watched kovalchuk play, i have never seen him come back past his own blueline, unless for faceoff. He is still one of the best offensive players in the league, but Hossa is more well-rounded.
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fanoleaf
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Posted - 11/30/2008 :  21:03:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Both good players.... Hossa mayne a little stronger in d end. Kovalchuk more of a pure goal scorer.

Kind of a toss up.

I vote for Kovalchuk...... he was never a Senioritta!!!!!!!!

GO LEAFS GO!!!!!!
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Posted - 12/01/2008 :  10:07:02  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Trevman12

I'd have to say Kovalchuk. He does well every year, people are just saying hossa because he is doing really good right now.



No, people are saying Hossa because they are smart. He is easily the best all around player.

You contradict yourself too, you say people are picking Hossa "because he is doing really good right now", therefore, implying that Kovalchuk is not doing "really good" right now, even though you say Kovalchuk does well every year.
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Posted - 12/01/2008 :  10:11:17  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest6081

kovalchuck is way better offensivley (picked him in my pool) I think the only reason hossa would get more points is because he plays with datsyuc and holmstrom but hossa is better defensivley



Hossa's career season in points is better than Kovalchuk's career season. How well is Kovalchuk doing now, WITHOUT Hossa?
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Beans15
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Posted - 12/01/2008 :  11:53:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest4462

quote:
Originally posted by Guest6081

kovalchuck is way better offensivley (picked him in my pool) I think the only reason hossa would get more points is because he plays with datsyuc and holmstrom but hossa is better defensivley



Hossa's career season in points is better than Kovalchuk's career season. How well is Kovalchuk doing now, WITHOUT Hossa?



Kovalchuk is doing fine with 21 points in 23 games. That only 5 less than Hossa in the same amount of games.

And I think you are failing to appreciate the linemates Hossa has now compared to Kovalchuk. Do you not think that Hossa is realizing a positive impact from playing with Datsyuk and Holmstrom for the most part?? What about the PP time with Rafalski and Lidstrom on the points??

Detroit's 3rd line is about as good as anyone that Kovalchuk is playing with. Little bit of an unfair comparison.
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Posted - 12/01/2008 :  15:33:31  Reply with Quote
all koval baby. if he could only play with someone with a litlle talent like hossa has his entire career than you hossa lovers would jump bandwagons
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Alex
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Posted - 12/01/2008 :  15:39:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alex

IN terms of fantasy value, I would watch out for Hossa, as he very likely may get traded to a cup contender which would help his value. If you need to shake things up quick, take a chance on him.

Habs get number 25 this year



Wow. I'm glad someone revived this thread. Check out the date on this one! And now for this weeks lottery numbers.

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