| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 01/11/2011 : 12:36:26
You guys seen the allstars who've been selected and the controversies that have followed (as there always is)???
Have to assume that a guy like Zetterberg asked not to be selected for some reason??? No way could guys like Kessel, Hemsky, Elias and even Malkin for that matter be picked over Z?
Forwards:
Sidney Crosby(notes), C, Pittsburgh Penguins*
Jonathan Toews(notes), C, Chicago Blackhawks*
Evgeni Malkin(notes), C, Pittsburgh Penguins*
David Backes(notes), RW, St. Louis Blues
Matt Duchene(notes), C, Colorado Avalanche
Patrik Elias(notes), LW, New Jersey Devils
Loui Eriksson(notes), LW, Dallas Stars
Claude Giroux(notes), RW, Philadelphia Flyers
Ales Hemsky, RW, Edmonton Oilers
Jarome Iginla(notes), RW, Calgary Flames
Patrick Kane, RW, Chicago Blackhawks
Ryan Kesler(notes), C, Vancouver Canucks
Phil Kessel(notes), RW, Toronto Maple Leafs
Anze Kopitar(notes), C, Los Angeles Kings
Rick Nash(notes), LW, Columbus Blue Jackets
Alex Ovechkin(notes), LW, Washington Capitals
Corey Perry, RW, Anaheim Ducks
Brad Richards(notes), C, Dallas Stars
Daniel Sedin(notes), LW, Vancouver Canucks
Henrik Sedin(notes), C, Vancouver Canucks
Patrick Sharp, LW, Chicago Blackhawks
Martin St. Louis(notes), RW, Tampa Bay Lightning
Eric Staal(notes), C, Carolina Hurricanes
Steven Stamkos(notes), C, Tampa Bay Lightning
Defensemen
Kris Letang(notes), Pittsburgh Penguins*
Duncan Keith(notes), Chicago Blackhawks*
Dan Boyle(notes), San Jose Sharks
Brent Burns(notes), Minnesota Wild
Dustin Byfuglien(notes), Atlanta Thrashers
Zdeno Chara(notes), Boston Bruins
Tobias Enstrom, Atlanta Thrashers
Mike Green, Washington Capitals
Erik Karlsson, Ottawa Senators
Nicklas Lidstrom(notes), Detroit Red Wings
Marc Staal(notes), New York Rangers
Shea Weber(notes), Nashville Predators
Goalies
Marc-Andre Fleury(notes), Pittsburgh Penguins
Jonas Hiller, Anaheim Ducks
Henrik Lundqvist(notes), New York Rangers
Carey Price(notes), Montreal Canadiens
Tim Thomas(notes), Boston Bruins
Cam Ward, Carolina Hurricanes
Rookies (Only Participating in Skills Competitions)
Logan Couture(notes), C, San Jose Sharks
Evgeny Dadonov, RW, Florida Panthers
Jordan Eberle(notes), RW, Edmonton Oilers
Oliver Ekman-Larsson, D, Phoenix Coyotes
Tyler Ennis, LW, Buffalo Sabres
Cam Fowler, D, Anaheim Ducks
Michael Grabner, RW, New York Islanders
Taylor Hall(notes), LW, Edmonton Oilers
Tyler Seguin(notes), C, Boston Bruins
Kevin Shattenkirk(notes), D, Colorado Avalanche
Jeff Skinner(notes), C, Carolina Hurricanes
Derek Stepan(notes), New York Rangers
This is from:
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/The-10-most-fascinating-things-about-NHL-2011-Al;_ylt=AoR_HppALozOnE.Xdp3NWwUJfwM6?urn=nhl-306105 |
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| nuxfan |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 19:56:47
quote:
I would put in Wisnewski over Stall or Byfuglien. (Byfuglien is a great shot, and hitter but I don't think injuries are wanted from this game.)
whaaaaat? JAMES Wisnewski? Or is there another Wisnewski that I don't know about, that is better than Buff who is second in overall defenseman scoring and first in goals by a defenseman by a fairly wide margin. Buff deserves to be there, and not as an injury replacement.
As for Canucks absent from the game, I don't think any Canucks other than the 3 they chose really deserve to be there. Many of them are having outstanding years, but only Kesler and the Sedin's are really having all-star years. No other forward deserves to be there. Luongo does not deserve to be there. Edler and Erhoff are both in the top 25 in scoring for dmen, but there are other dmen having individually better seasons than they are that deserve to be there.
The beauty of the Canucks this year is that they're getting things done as a TEAM - there are not many that stand out individually.  |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 18:49:21
quote:
Originally posted by MyTeamRules
My big complaint on Luongo not being there was that he was in the commercial, also proving a point that a lot of Canucks are good enough to make the All-Star game.
Crosby is injured, I hope Zetterberg replaces him, as you said he should be there. If not Zetterberg Gaborik, or Stasny.
Defense could use a lot of Improvment, don't doubt Mike Green for this All-Star Game he is great on Offense and that is what the All Star Game needs. I would put in Wisnewski over Stall or Byfuglien. (Byfuglien is a great shot, and hitter but I don't think injuries are wanted from this game.)
”If you've only got one day to live, come see the Toronto Maple Leafs. It'll seem like forever. ” - Pat
Gaborik? Seriously?
And Byfuglien not deserving?? I wish i hadn't read your post! |
| MyTeamRules |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 17:58:38
My big complaint on Luongo not being there was that he was in the commercial, also proving a point that a lot of Canucks are good enough to make the All-Star game.
Crosby is injured, I hope Zetterberg replaces him, as you said he should be there. If not Zetterberg Gaborik, or Stasny.
Defense could use a lot of Improvment, don't doubt Mike Green for this All-Star Game he is great on Offense and that is what the All Star Game needs. I would put in Wisnewski over Stall or Byfuglien. (Byfuglien is a great shot, and hitter but I don't think injuries are wanted from this game.)
”If you've only got one day to live, come see the Toronto Maple Leafs. It'll seem like forever. ” - Pat |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 08:57:22
Mario, point taken, and believe me, i wasn't necessarily saying he deserved to be there, i just wanted to point out to those like me who've often slagged this guy that he has improved (from what i've heard).
I think the last sentence i wrote sums up what i was trying to say, that not necessarily did i think he should be a selection, but his overall game has improved. When i read "Why is Mike Green there????? He has not done squat this year", i figured i'd share a little incite into his improved overall game, that's all.  |
| Mario 66 |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 08:29:39
Alex i do not argue that Green has improved defensively and maybe you are simply proving a point to one of the guest or other members about how improved Green is overall. However, in consideration to the thread about him being picked for the all star game i have to completely disagree with his selection. John Michael Liles & Lubomir Vishnovsky are having career years offensively and Green has had a slow season which really is the reason anyone ever makes an allstar game outside of the players thrown in there so a team can have a rep.
I honestly believe Chara & Green where selected simply on their names & their history rather then offensive merit this season cuz as many people have stated and you know yourself defense is the last thing on the mind in a all star game.
Lemieux owns Gretzky |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 07:07:56
quote:
Originally posted by Guest4271
Why is Mike Green there????? He has not done squat this year
As a guy who in past has jumped all over anyone talking about how good this guy is, it's time for me to come to his defense i suppose. I've always considered Green a one dimensional offensive dman and have claimed they should move him to the wing as he's been terrible in his own zone. I'm not sure what they've done in Washington, not just with Green but the whole team, but it seems they're making an attempt to play more defensively than we've become accustomed to.
Now, i def don't get to see too many Washington games and therefore will credit the following knowledge to hearing it reported on the radio by i believe Ray Ferraro but if you take a little time to research Washington's numbers, which i have, you'll notice Green has some pretty good numbers on the defensive side of his game. Ferraro was explaining how he has improved that side of his game and mentioned a few things which i looked up.
Where Mike Green ranks with the Washington Capitals:
Time on ice - 1st
Time on ice / game - 1st
Short handed TOI - 4th
SH TOI / game (hasn't played all the games) - 2nd!
Hits - 3rd
Blocked shots - tied for 1st!
+/- - 7th
Now, not all of these may be relevant or totally accurate of his play and again, i don't see him enough really to have a strong opinion, but from everything i've heard, he's really stepped his game up defensively.
Perhaps there's others more deserving even with his improvements, but he may be a lot better than you think (guest).
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| nuxfan |
Posted - 01/16/2011 : 22:54:30
quote:
Amazing that Luongo isn`t there though. How many games have Van. lost in their last 25 or so ? You would think a goalie who is a major factor in a streak like this would be a shoe in.
Luongo has had a pretty ordinary year so far (by his standards at least). 4th in the league in wins (but he does play for the team that has the most wins), 12th in GAA, 11th in SV%. He's been very good since early Dec when VAN went on their streak, but before that he was inconsistent. I personally don't think that he has all-star numbers this year. Of the ones voted, I think Thomas, Lundqvist, and possibly Hiller deserve to be there before Luongo does. I think Howard deserves to be there more than any of them.
Cory Schneider started 7 games over the past 25 games as well, so its not like Luongo has done it alone. Schneider has been extraordinary this year as backup. |
| Guest4271 |
Posted - 01/16/2011 : 22:53:08
Why is Mike Green there????? He has not done squat this year |
| Guest0952 |
Posted - 01/16/2011 : 20:42:36
Kessel only knows how to score by himself. Hes a streaker who doesnt produce every night. H.sedin Gets at least a point a game and leads the league in assists. Kesler is way better than kessel, whos playing 1st line minutes, while kesler's playing second line minutes. City of pitsburgh should be banned from voting for the all star game. 4 freakin represantives? Thats Bulls***! |
| The Duke |
Posted - 01/16/2011 : 20:28:56
Amazing that Luongo isn`t there though. How many games have Van. lost in their last 25 or so ? You would think a goalie who is a major factor in a streak like this would be a shoe in. |
| Guest2962 |
Posted - 01/16/2011 : 16:57:36
[quote]Originally posted by MyTeamRules
People complaining 3 Canucks made it
First of all Luongo should be up there but i assume he decided not to play. Edler Ehrhoff?
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Luongo never asked not to be in the all-star game, atleast thats what he said in a interview |
| MyTeamRules |
Posted - 01/16/2011 : 16:26:48
People complaining 3 Canucks made it
First of all Luongo should be up there but i assume he decided not to play. Edler Ehrhoff?
”If you've only got one day to live, come see the Toronto Maple Leafs. It'll seem like forever. ” - Pat |
| Guest0750 |
Posted - 01/15/2011 : 21:25:44
if the fans voted them in i have no problem if not get them out give it to someone else like the leading scorer on phoenix. |
| Guest4803 |
Posted - 01/14/2011 : 16:11:31
Ryan kesler? where have you been buddy hiding under a rock? and by the way Pitt and Chi have 4 represenitives each why dont you cry about that too! |
| Guest9006 |
Posted - 01/14/2011 : 16:07:46
oh really? name the 3rd, besides Henrik and Daniel. |
| Guest4803 |
Posted - 01/14/2011 : 09:46:36
the fact is that its an ALLSTAR game, the canucks have 3 of the top 15 players in the league... |
| Guest0750 |
Posted - 01/14/2011 : 09:32:02
the fact is there are players that should be on there and vancouver sends 3 players, the league should say max 2 players from a team. |
| Guest4803 |
Posted - 01/14/2011 : 09:01:33
quote:
Originally posted by The Duke
Nuxfan, no i am not comparing Kessel to H. Sedin, i just threw him in there because he is one of the league greats, at the all - star game and has 45 % of kessels goal total.
Kessel is young at 23.....H.Sedin is 30 years old with more NHL experience and on a great team.
Since we are on this topic, lets compare their Numbers at the same age coming into the league.
At the age of 20 years old
..............................GP.......Goals........Points
Kessel....................70..........19.............29
H.Sedin..................82..........9...............29
at the age of 21 years old
Kessel....................70...........36.............60
H.Sedin...................82...........16............36
at the age of 22 years old
Kessel....................70............30............55
H.Sedin..................78.............8.............39
( for this year i will have to project Kessels 2nd half finish)
Kessel...................82.............36............60 ( at age 23 )
H.Sedin.................76.............11............42 ( at age 23 )
Not saying anything about comparing these players right now but for the first 4 years of either player in the league...as you can see Kessels numbers Blew H.Sedins numbers out of the water !!!
Lets look at the totals for each player for their first 4 years as an NHL regular.
.....................Total GP.........Goals.......Points
Kessel..............292...............121..........204
H.Sedin............318................44...........146
1st four seasons
...................total.....PointsPG..%........GoalsPG..%
Kessel........................( .70 )%..............( .41 ) %
H.Sedin......................( .46 )%..............( .14 ) %
Now who can argue with that ??
If H.Sedin blossomed into what he is today from these medicore numbers, Maybe Kessel nay-sayers should give him a break.
Your comparing a pure goal scorer vs a guy who would rather pass on breakaway. But if you look at their shots on goal and shooting % you will see that henrik trumps Kessel
Henrik: This year 81 shots 9 goals 11%
career: 1,134 shots 147 goals 13%
Kessel: This year 183 shots 19 goals 10.4%
career 1095 shots 115 goals 10.5%
For the First 4 years henrik and daniel played 3rd line minutes and Kessel was thrown right into the mix his rookie season, I cant See Kessel ever breaking the 100 pt mark or winning a Hart Trophy. |
| Porkchop73 |
Posted - 01/13/2011 : 15:30:08
Honestly its hard to debate who should be at the All Star game. The game itself is not much of a showcase anymore as much as it is a circus act that has not much to do with hockey. They need to go back to the 80's when the game was an event of the true all stars in the game and no one backed out of going.
Now with huge dollars tied up in single players, teams are using the break to rest their investment instead of using them to promote the sport.
The winter classic has become the true showcase of the NHL and is doing more to promote the game then the all star could ever do again.
Do away with the all star game and showcase the leagues top teams each year in the winter classic instead. At least it would be a game that means something. |
| ryan93 |
Posted - 01/13/2011 : 15:03:15
I'm pretty sure the young stars were in the skills comp last time too, weren't they? |
| doublechamp7 |
Posted - 01/13/2011 : 14:15:28
I noticed the thing about the rookies and how they are in the skills comp. Is there no young stars game this year?
The juniors have failed for Canada |
| Guest9006 |
Posted - 01/13/2011 : 13:56:48
Elias and Backes didnt deserve to be picked, Im sure there are better players out there. I would take Kulimen, Grabo, or MacArthur any day over Kessel. Cant Believe Kaberle wasnt on the list, same with Yandle. |
| Mario 66 |
Posted - 01/13/2011 : 11:03:07
I will admit i normally bash the leafs but that is primarily because they are not very good and i live in leaf land and listen to many leaf fans making arguements that are out of this world. In all honesty i would love to see the leafs competitive for no other reason then i enjoy watching quality hockey and since i see 60 - 65 of their games i certainly wouldn't mind watching them play well. Not to mention i anticipate the day hopefully prior to my 40's that the leafs win a cup as it will be one hell of a party and lots of free shopping when fans tear toronto apart in celebration.
Outside of nuxfans bashing leaf fans n vice versa on this thread i have to agree with slozo that the all star game should be represented by the most deserving players on that season. Someone mentioned that your reputation does not earn you a spot on the all star team if that where always the cs then clearly guys like Mike Green & Chara would not be on the team and a guy like Vishnovski, Jack Johson or John Michael Liles would have made it.
Many people state that the all star game is a useless game of pond hockey with no defense. May i remind you an all star game is meant to show the skill of the league and intended for those who are not regulars of the game. It is meant to show the casual hockey fan how impressive and talented nhl players can be. With that said though it is also sadly for many players the only individual honour they will recieve over the course of their career that is why i dislike the fact that most teams need to be represented
Lemieux owns Gretzky |
| nuxfan |
Posted - 01/13/2011 : 10:05:49
quote:
Leaf players....no matter how good they do....receive nothing from most people other than a kick in the nuts
Perhaps it only seems that way because leaf fans are constantly comparing their own to players well outside their skill levels... if you think "Kessel is not as good as Hank" is the equivalent of a kick in the nuts, well so be it. There are a lot of very good players in the league that are not as good as hank.
You need to accept that while Kessel is a pretty good player, he has so far proved to be nothing more than a one-dimensional player capable of 30g and 65-ish points a season. Only in leaf-land is that all-star material. |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 01/13/2011 : 09:55:45
Here's the thing Duke, yeah, i don't like the Leafs at the best of times. BUT, if they were good, i'm not the type of person to come on here and say they're not.
Now, maybe your comments weren't directed at me as much as others, but I was simply pointing out your comparison of Kessel to Sedin was ridiculous (the early career stats). I didn't even say what i truly feel in this thread and that is that the Leafs, IMO, don't have ANYONE deserving of being in the All Star game. I did say, i'd take Grabo, and maybe even Kulemin, over Kessel at this point if in fact they were trying to get reps from all the teams.
As far as Leafs players getting "kicked in the nuts" from others and how the Leafs are "bad, will never be good....etc", that's not really true all the time, at least not from me. If i say something bad regarding their team, that's my honest opinion, and right now, i don't feel they're a very good team. I'm not saying they NEVER will be, but in the next few years, i just don't see it. Yeah, i could be wrong, but their immediate future does not look great.
Trust me, as much as i dislike the Leafs as a team, they've had players over the years who i loved to watch and appreciate. Gilmour, Clark, Damphousse, Sundin even Kaberle and not to forget Alexander Godynyuk. Ok, i'm kidding about the last one but hopefully you see what i'm trying to say. I'm not here to pile on the Leafs, unless of course dellusional Leaf fans start spouting off silly nonsense, or of course, if "my" Canucks start getting unfairly slagged!!! |
| The Duke |
Posted - 01/13/2011 : 09:11:53
No need to get you piss hot....BC boys....lmao
Sedin is a great player.......
Leaf players....no matter how good they do....receive nothing from most people other than a kick in the nuts
All i ever hear for leaf haters is how bad they are, they will never be good, they can`t get good, things have to change sometime, |
| nuxfan |
Posted - 01/12/2011 : 21:08:29
quote:
Nuxfan, no i am not comparing Kessel to H. Sedin, i just threw him in there because he is one of the league greats, at the all - star game and has 45 % of kessels goal total.
Perhaps look at it the other way - Kessel is at the game, but only has 50% of Sedin's point total.
quote:
Not saying anything about comparing these players right now but for the first 4 years of either player in the league...as you can see Kessels numbers Blew H.Sedins numbers out of the water !!!
Who cares what they did in the first 4 years of their careers? The all-star game doesn't make selections based on how players played in the first 4 years of their respective careers - they make selections based on how they're playing this year and/or last year. Right now, Hank is one of the top 3 centres in the entire NHL. Kessel is a speedy one-dimensional 30 goal scorer.
Brad Boyes scored more points than Hank in his first 4 seasons - is he going to be better than Hank? Scott Gomez scored WAY more points than Hank in his first 4 years - is he a better player than Hank? Chris Drury, Olli Jokinen, etc etc. The NHL has plenty of players that did well in their first 4 years, but never consistently progressed beyond that point, and certainly didn't get to the level that Hank has gotten to.
How do you know that Kessel has not hit his top level now - perhaps he'll never be better than a ~30g/65pt player... |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 01/12/2011 : 21:00:16
quote:
Originally posted by The Duke
Nuxfan, no i am not comparing Kessel to H. Sedin, i just threw him in there because he is one of the league greats, at the all - star game and has 45 % of kessels goal total.
Kessel is young at 23.....H.Sedin is 30 years old with more NHL experience and on a great team.
Since we are on this topic, lets compare their Numbers at the same age coming into the league.
At the age of 20 years old
..............................GP.......Goals........Points
Kessel....................70..........19.............29
H.Sedin..................82..........9...............29
at the age of 21 years old
Kessel....................70...........36.............60
H.Sedin...................82...........16............36
at the age of 22 years old
Kessel....................70............30............55
H.Sedin..................78.............8.............39
( for this year i will have to project Kessels 2nd half finish)
Kessel...................82.............36............60 ( at age 23 )
H.Sedin.................76.............11............42 ( at age 23 )
Not saying anything about comparing these players right now but for the first 4 years of either player in the league...as you can see Kessels numbers Blew H.Sedins numbers out of the water !!!
Lets look at the totals for each player for their first 4 years as an NHL regular.
.....................Total GP.........Goals.......Points
Kessel..............292...............121..........204
H.Sedin............318................44...........146
1st four seasons
...................total.....PointsPG..%........GoalsPG..%
Kessel........................( .70 )%..............( .41 ) %
H.Sedin......................( .46 )%..............( .14 ) %
Now who can argue with that ??
If H.Sedin blossomed into what he is today from these medicore numbers, Maybe Kessel nay-sayers should give him a break.
DIdn't you just claim you weren't comparing the two??? HUH?
BTW, you can't compare, at least not fairly, two guys in TOTALLY different situations!!! It's ridiculous!
Either way, your comparison pretty much says the Kessel WILL be better than Sedin at age 30! I'll just wait and see... |
| The Duke |
Posted - 01/12/2011 : 20:17:42
Nuxfan, no i am not comparing Kessel to H. Sedin, i just threw him in there because he is one of the league greats, at the all - star game and has 45 % of kessels goal total.
Kessel is young at 23.....H.Sedin is 30 years old with more NHL experience and on a great team.
Since we are on this topic, lets compare their Numbers at the same age coming into the league.
At the age of 20 years old
..............................GP.......Goals........Points
Kessel....................70..........19.............29
H.Sedin..................82..........9...............29
at the age of 21 years old
Kessel....................70...........36.............60
H.Sedin...................82...........16............36
at the age of 22 years old
Kessel....................70............30............55
H.Sedin..................78.............8.............39
( for this year i will have to project Kessels 2nd half finish)
Kessel...................82.............36............60 ( at age 23 )
H.Sedin.................76.............11............42 ( at age 23 )
Not saying anything about comparing these players right now but for the first 4 years of either player in the league...as you can see Kessels numbers Blew H.Sedins numbers out of the water !!!
Lets look at the totals for each player for their first 4 years as an NHL regular.
.....................Total GP.........Goals.......Points
Kessel..............292...............121..........204
H.Sedin............318................44...........146
1st four seasons
...................total.....PointsPG..%........GoalsPG..%
Kessel........................( .70 )%..............( .41 ) %
H.Sedin......................( .46 )%..............( .14 ) %
Now who can argue with that ??
If H.Sedin blossomed into what he is today from these medicore numbers, Maybe Kessel nay-sayers should give him a break. |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 01/12/2011 : 12:51:01
I too hope the Sedin's are on different teams. Hank proved last year in Daniel's 18 game absence that he could still play at a high level so i don't worry about that, i just think it'd be neat to see if they could find instant chemistry with others?
No way do i see them being as good separated, but just how much of a drop off would it be? Don't see them being the captains, but i guess you never know? Be nice to see the captains who are chosen either pick them back to back or make a deal ahead of time that they will be picked by one each! |
| nuxfan |
Posted - 01/12/2011 : 12:40:34
quote:
Why be critical of kessel anyway, he does have 19 goals which puts him 10 th overall in the NHL.......H.Sedin, who i know is a great player...but only has 9 goals.
Yes, only 9 goals.... to go along with his 46 assists, which currently leads the league by a fairly wide margin and puts him 4th in overall league scoring.
Really, are you comparing Hank Sedin and Kessel? |
| The Duke |
Posted - 01/12/2011 : 11:57:55
Was going to mention ( regarding one rep. per team...Kessel for TO )...
Why be critical of kessel anyway, he does have 19 goals which puts him 10 th overall in the NHL.......H.Sedin, who i know is a great player...but only has 9 goals. |
| Guest4803 |
Posted - 01/12/2011 : 10:30:27
Make the Sedins Captains then they have no choice to be on seperate teams |
| Odin |
Posted - 01/12/2011 : 10:00:02
quote:
Originally posted by Guest2962
quote:
Originally posted by Guest0750
i think its a joke that vancouver has 3 players, pick one and move on unless voted by fans as thats what happened in pittsburg.
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There first in the NHL why wouldnt they have 3? I hope the Sedins get picked on different teams to see how they play with other people
I was thinking the exact same thing, I would love to see these two go head to head, may add a little spice to the game. |
| The Duke |
Posted - 01/12/2011 : 09:46:57
Its a joke game with no defense and no hitting....with poor goalies hung out to dry all game long.
so why not have a player from every team ?... |
| Guest2962 |
Posted - 01/12/2011 : 09:32:58
quote:
Originally posted by Guest0750
i think its a joke that vancouver has 3 players, pick one and move on unless voted by fans as thats what happened in pittsburg.
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There first in the NHL why wouldnt they have 3? I hope the Sedins get picked on different teams to see how they play with other people |
| nuxfan |
Posted - 01/12/2011 : 09:22:54
I have grown to loathe the all-star game. I'm glad more Canucks were not chosen, given the travel from VAN to CAR. Better to take those days and rest up for the rest of the real season. |
| n/a |
Posted - 01/12/2011 : 05:31:41
Well . . . the "who cares" argument doesn't wash with me, first off. You have an all-star game, yes it's a meaningless game, but no, that doesn't mean you can't do it right, and pick the true all-stars of the game.
An all-star isn't just a guy who is doing really well statistically . .. it's also a guy who is the face of the team, and someone who is recognised as very skilled.
So, the reason Kessel was chosen over Grabo isn't that peculiar, really . . . I would have expected it. Same with Malkin getting voted in.
In my humble opinion however, if I was choosing a REAL all-star team, there would be no Leafs currently (Grabo wouldn't quite make it). And certainly no Devils, and no Oilers (only because of Whitney's injury, however).
And Fleury wouldn't be there for me, I'd have chosen Howard over him. But it's tough to choose goalies, as their stats are so affected by the defence in front of them.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
| ToXXiK1 |
Posted - 01/12/2011 : 03:14:18
I think, "who cares" applies here. The All Star game is nothing but a floater competition. Why invite defensemen at all? There isn't any, or very little, defense in this game anyway. No body contact, no intensity, no aggressive play....... Just a giant money grab with a pond hockey game in return. I'd rather skip it and roll with the regular season. That being said, Kessel is there only because a) Toronto had to have a rep b) Burke prolly made sure it was Kessel to have him play with some quality centremen to say "see, the trade will be good once I get this guy a centre". Grabo should be there long before Phil, but, the parody in the NHL has once again let politics rule. |
| Guest0750 |
Posted - 01/11/2011 : 23:02:17
i think its a joke that vancouver has 3 players, pick one and move on unless voted by fans as thats what happened in pittsburg. |
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