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| hanley6 |
Posted - 12/28/2008 : 17:30:04
What would be the best bet for Toronto's Goaltending |
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| CodyM |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 17:49:51
Yes the East has more superstars, but the west teams like, Detroit, Aneheim, Chicago, Calgery, San Jose, Vancouver,all have great depth, apose to the east which have only Pitsburg, Buffalo, and Washington have real Depth. |
| Guest5230 |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 11:54:16
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Originally posted by CodyM
I really think that the leafs should pickup Marty Turco. I know it sounds risky but dallas will throw him away for anything, the leafs will take anything to make it through to the playoffs, and Turco wont cost that much.
And the Eastern confrence will be alot better for Turco
Cody McLenon
How would the eastern conference be better for him there is way less superstars in the west than east if anything the west would be easier |
| Guest5230 |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 11:51:46
Another option should be start Toskala and backup Jhonas Gustaffson a free agent burke has had his eyes on who went under the radar until this year |
| n/a |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 09:27:40
According to an article in the Toronto Sun today, the Leafs are one of three teams in talks with the purported "best goalie not in the NHL" - Jonas Gustavson. He is a Swedish Elite League player who recently led his team to the championship there, and is 24 years old.
He is touring three cities, of which Toronto is one, while the article states that two other clubs are also interested in him - Dallas and Colroado (the article doesn't make clear if those are the other two cities Gustavson might choose). The article does make clear, however, that he is a highly sought after 'prospect' that the Leafs would welcom with open arms.
Curiouser and curiouser . . .
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
| Matt_Roberts85 |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 07:55:20
Why would Dallas just give away Turco...?
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E". |
| Rambo2305 |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 06:07:53
Can you imagine a battery of Turco & Toskala?? That would be sick...to say the least lol
"Most people spend time and energy going around problems, rather than trying to solve them" - Henry Ford |
| CodyM |
Posted - 06/02/2009 : 17:19:34
I really think that the leafs should pickup Marty Turco. I know it sounds risky but dallas will throw him away for anything, the leafs will take anything to make it through to the playoffs, and Turco wont cost that much.
And the Eastern confrence will be alot better for Turco
Cody McLenon |
| JOSHUACANADA |
Posted - 06/02/2009 : 15:11:59
I forgot all about Kolzig. Whats the rush in TO for the number 1 goalie you got tonnes of goalies you can work with (Cujo, Gerber, Kolzig, Toskala and Pogge. Just pick two and run with it. For my money I would play Kolzig or Gerber behind Toskala and find a home for Pogge if they cant develop him fast.
What they actually need is a tandum of defensive minded D-men like Chara, Lindstrom, Brad Stuart or Regehr type players. People who can make smart plays and move players from the net. I dont care how hard the shot is just how accurate the transition pass is. |
| Matt_Roberts85 |
Posted - 06/02/2009 : 13:53:27
I really hope Toskala grabs the ball and runs with it. The guy has incredible athletic abilities and should be a #1 goalie in the NHL without a doubt. Last year was just sketchy for everyone involved with the leafs, i give him a mulligan and see how he does this year. It is a contract year so he should be ready to go right from the first puck drop of the season.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E". |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 06/02/2009 : 09:05:25
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Originally posted by slozo
I don't mind Toskala at all. I understood that he played injured for more than half the season, which makes his play outstanding on a very young and inexperienced defence that is learning the ropes.
Learning takes time, and patience, and of course most fans in Toronto don't have that . . . or maybe it's because the posters here who don't have patience are at the age where 6months or a year is a long time.
Toskala, if healthy, will be the starter, and will be very solid. Pogge and Gerber will share the back-up role, until Pogge has used up all his chances and we never see him again (my prediction). Gerber is a solid back-up.
Despite all the rhetoric otherwise, goaltending is not Toronto's problem.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
Wow, is it a full moon tonight? I agree with every word Slozo said!
One thing that is interesting with TO. They have Kolzig, Joseph, Gerber, Pogge, and Toskala all signed.............until July 1.
After that, they have only Toskala signed. Gerber, Joseph, and Kolzig are all UFA's and I would expect them all to be gone/retire. Actually, I would suspect Gerber will sign in Russia or somewhere else in Europe. Pogge will be re-signed and spend at least 1 more season(or the better part of it) on the farm. I think Mr. Burke might shop for a cheap, 1 or 2 year contract back up like a Garon.
But without a doubt, a healthy Toskala is the starter in TO in October. |
| Matt_Roberts85 |
Posted - 06/02/2009 : 07:54:38
Ok, come on guys.
First - Young defence? Kaberle, Kubina, Van Ryn, Finger. Not that young really. Ian White is a 3 year vet now. They should have been better.
Second - Goaltending is ABSOLUTLEY a big problem in Toronto right now. There is no guarantee that Toskala can regain the form he had prior to surgery and even then, he was prone to a soft goal every other game. Toskala is "ok" at best. Gerber is disgustingly inconsistant and I shudder to think of him being anything close to a full time goalie. Justin Pogge still has to show he can get through a full game without being thoroughly embarassed.
If im brian burke, I try to sign Giguere otherwise you just pray that Toskala can carry the load this time 'round.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E". |
| n/a |
Posted - 06/02/2009 : 06:05:08
I don't mind Toskala at all. I understood that he played injured for more than half the season, which makes his play outstanding on a very young and inexperienced defence that is learning the ropes.
Learning takes time, and patience, and of course most fans in Toronto don't have that . . . or maybe it's because the posters here who don't have patience are at the age where 6months or a year is a long time.
Toskala, if healthy, will be the starter, and will be very solid. Pogge and Gerber will share the back-up role, until Pogge has used up all his chances and we never see him again (my prediction). Gerber is a solid back-up.
Despite all the rhetoric otherwise, goaltending is not Toronto's problem.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
| Rambo2305 |
Posted - 06/02/2009 : 05:29:47
Ok, in 07-08, Toskala was great for us, last year he played with pretty much every lower body injury imaginable. When healthy, he can get 35+ wins easily...
Not to mention, when you face 40+ shots on a nightly basis, might give one up every now an then...
"Most people spend time and energy going around problems, rather than trying to solve them" - Henry Ford |
| Matt_Roberts85 |
Posted - 06/01/2009 : 12:40:44
you fail at life
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E". |
| funny face |
Posted - 06/01/2009 : 12:14:43
Toronto Maple Leafs have super goaltenning just that they dont have very good defence...thats why they hardly make the playoffs |
| Alex |
Posted - 04/19/2009 : 09:13:48
Trading away Toskala doesn't make sense, they won't get anyone much better than him. He can probably be a number one goalie in his career. Chances are unless they manage to get a Luongo, Brodeur, etc., any goalie they bring in would have a rough time playing the same in Toronto. I bet even Lundqvist would see his stock depreciate in Toronto. Mason, Ward, Backstrom and Price definitely would. But this is all hypothetical, because they aren't getting any of those guys.
If they can get Toskala to play well and get that Swedish guy Burke keeps hyping up then I think goaltending would be pretty decent. What they need is for Ron Wilson to do what he was hired to do, namely, getting the team to buy into defensive hockey. They've got as good a top four as almost anybody in Kubina, Kaberle, Schenn and Van Ryn. Not to mention guys like Stralman, Finger and White. They just need to focus on playing a two-dimensional game.
In my opinion, Ron Wilson had one job this year, and that was to get this team thinking defense. He failed miserably. I don't see why everyone is praising him left right and center for it. |
| Guest4037 |
Posted - 04/19/2009 : 09:02:28
Trade Gerber and Kaberle for a starter. |
| Reeder17 |
Posted - 04/19/2009 : 08:47:35
Sign Gerber one more year, have Toskala and Gerber split. Than get rid of them both, bring in a veteran goalie like Roloson for two years so Pogge can play back up than let Pogge play front when Roloson retires.
Crosby is not the Lord & Savior of the NHL, get over yourself McGuire.
Gretzky has never once high-sticked a member of the Toronto Maple Leafs. |
| Kieph |
Posted - 04/19/2009 : 08:16:21
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Originally posted by Guest4812
Stick with Toskla and Pogge get rid of Cujo either then that the rest if fine and they will do good with some young picks.
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| Guest4812 |
Posted - 04/19/2009 : 08:15:43
Stick with Toskla and Pogge get rid of Cujo either then that the rest if fine and they will do good with some young picks. |
| forumer09 |
Posted - 04/18/2009 : 19:00:15
just stay the way they are |
| Guest7179 |
Posted - 01/07/2009 : 21:21:24
toskala is one of the best goalies when it comes to sharing the #1 role. he is no "solid" #1. his track record proves it. leafs should go pick up a goalie from hawks, (huet?)... and have toskala share #1 with him, huet is also a good #1 when it comes to "sharing" the role. get rid of OLD players (like cujo). when are you guys going to learn how to build or re-build a team?? stop picking players with your heart (cujo) and your "hopes" (cujo again, and also mays, and also burke for that matter!!), go with youth and get a decent coaching staff to get them going... |
| hanley6 |
Posted - 01/07/2009 : 21:07:57
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Originally posted by Hustler90
Haha, here is the funny part. I am a leafs fan straight up. I just like Steve Yzerman, other than that I am not a fan of Detroit in anyway. I am not putting Toronto down, I am putting you down for saying stupid things Toronto should do to their team.
really Leafs fan???????? I remember you saying this
quote:
Originally posted by Hustler90
Toronto has great positonal but is a little low on the talent department and have a hard time scoring. If Ottawa ever got a hold of good GM or a Coach they might turn this team around and it would live up to its potential. They almost had the cup one year and then screwed around made a couple stupid moves and now they've fallen apart. Both Toronto and Ottawa suck, end of discussion.
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| Hustler90 |
Posted - 01/04/2009 : 13:31:46
Haha, here is the funny part. I am a leafs fan straight up. I just like Steve Yzerman, other than that I am not a fan of Detroit in anyway. I am not putting Toronto down, I am putting you down for saying stupid things Toronto should do to their team.
(ADMIN EDIT - Agree or disagree, do me a favor and don't put anyone down please.) |
| hanley6 |
Posted - 01/04/2009 : 05:59:02
quote:
Originally posted by Hustler90
keep dreaming
hahaha I've noticed in other comments, you are always putting Toronto in General down.. I love the fact that whenever Toronto and Detroit play each other Detroit has a tough time against them. In fact I don't remember the last time Detroit has beat Toronto |
| Hustler90 |
Posted - 01/03/2009 : 20:14:44
keep dreaming |
| hanley6 |
Posted - 01/03/2009 : 13:34:13
quote:
Originally posted by Leafsfan_94
yeah hanley, why on earth would LA give up Drew Doughty for toskala and kubina. i wouldnt trade him for the entire leafs team!
Leafsfan_94
there has been a lot worse trades anything can happen skippy |
| Leafsfan_94 |
Posted - 01/02/2009 : 21:44:48
yeah hanley, why on earth would LA give up Drew Doughty for toskala and kubina. i wouldnt trade him for the entire leafs team!
Leafsfan_94
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| Matt_Roberts85 |
Posted - 01/02/2009 : 12:53:22
hanley, do you stay up all night eating pixie sticks and drinking coffee, watching old leaf games on leafs tv? Then spend all day on here arguing about the leafs?
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E". |
| Hustler90 |
Posted - 01/02/2009 : 09:04:23
Hanley you really have to realize that people just don't trade away their star prospects like that, especially for Toskala and Kubina, maybe if Toronto wanted to throw in their first round draft pick this year too than hed probably consider it. LA is not gonna give up Quick very easily. And as for you saying for Toronto to trade for Mason. Thats crazy, This kid just recorded 3 shutouts in a row. Now do you really think Colombus is gonna consider trading this guy? smarten up. |
| Guest9826 |
Posted - 01/02/2009 : 09:04:11
hanley6
you are absolutely mental if you think they should keep toskala and cujo and you think pogge sucks. did you by any chance catch the game he played. he actually picked up the win. and i dont beleive cujo has a win yet now does he? |
| hanley6 |
Posted - 01/02/2009 : 01:42:42
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Originally posted by Lunchbox
I agree that Toskala was better in San Jose. I mean, some goalies can be great in one city and terrible in another for no good reason (Think of Vancouver for the last ten years before Luongo) But I just doubt that Toronto is going to get a #1 goalie in a straight across trade for Toskala. And if Cujo's is so great, why trade Toskala for a goalie? If youre dead set against Toskala, would it not be better to split Joseph and Pogge the rest of the year (maybe next as well) and trade Toskala for some future considerations, a young gun. A team that needs a goalie like Toskala, is not going to have a great goalie to give back.
well either way it would be better than playing Toskala. Another thought would be to trade Toskala and Kubina off to LA for a kid named Jonathan Quick and either D Drew Doughty or C Oscar Moller all good young hockey players and if they go through with it they would all help out Toronto now and the future |
| Lunchbox |
Posted - 01/02/2009 : 00:48:20
I agree that Toskala was better in San Jose. I mean, some goalies can be great in one city and terrible in another for no good reason (Think of Vancouver for the last ten years before Luongo) But I just doubt that Toronto is going to get a #1 goalie in a straight across trade for Toskala. And if Cujo's is so great, why trade Toskala for a goalie? If youre dead set against Toskala, would it not be better to split Joseph and Pogge the rest of the year (maybe next as well) and trade Toskala for some future considerations, a young gun. A team that needs a goalie like Toskala, is not going to have a great goalie to give back. |
| hanley6 |
Posted - 01/02/2009 : 00:20:24
quote:
Originally posted by Lunchbox
Those are all some fairly good goalies, yes, but you're only thinking of half the issue. Those other teams have to want to give them up, and a straight up goalie for goalie trade is not likely. If Toronto gives up Toskala, their best bet is for future considerations, draft picks etc. but I say split Toskala and Pogge for the year unless one gets hot, and then if Toskala tanks, trade him in the offseason. If not, its a win-win, as they'll have a good young goalie and a good veteran goalie. As for Cujo, he may have won his 450th tonight, but I think his best days are behind him. Time for Toronto to let him move on to doing commentary for the CBC. (Isnt it Canadian law that retired goalies have to do that?)
*I know I said before to trade Toskala and run with Pogge, but I think now Toronto should only do that if they're going to get something decent. Toskala's value seems a bit down right now, so maybe give him the rest of the season.
Toskala has stank ever since he left Sanjose. I've said this before and I know alot of people agree with me and alot of people dont He's a decent backup he's not good enough to even play half the games let alone Toronto's number 1 goalie. As for Pogge I don't like the idea of him joining the team yet he needs more time in the miners. Cujo played a strong back to back games beating Atlanta and losing to Buffalo but he played well both games atleast it shows that Toronto has a goalie that can stop the puck, He shows he's still got it by not allowing any weak assed goals like Toskala does all the time. Toronto needs to either find a way to trade Toskala and Kubina for a decent goalie and a draft pick or just play play Cujo more often because he deserves to play more. He is 41 but he is still a good goalie and he will prove himself but only if Toronto shows him respect and don't sit him for a month. |
| Lunchbox |
Posted - 12/30/2008 : 20:44:26
Those are all some fairly good goalies, yes, but you're only thinking of half the issue. Those other teams have to want to give them up, and a straight up goalie for goalie trade is not likely. If Toronto gives up Toskala, their best bet is for future considerations, draft picks etc. but I say split Toskala and Pogge for the year unless one gets hot, and then if Toskala tanks, trade him in the offseason. If not, its a win-win, as they'll have a good young goalie and a good veteran goalie. As for Cujo, he may have won his 450th tonight, but I think his best days are behind him. Time for Toronto to let him move on to doing commentary for the CBC. (Isnt it Canadian law that retired goalies have to do that?)
*I know I said before to trade Toskala and run with Pogge, but I think now Toronto should only do that if they're going to get something decent. Toskala's value seems a bit down right now, so maybe give him the rest of the season. |
| hanley6 |
Posted - 12/30/2008 : 19:28:46
quote:
Originally posted by Jephman
quote:
Originally posted by hanley6
personally I think Toronto should Trade away Toskala for a better goalie but if they were to keep Toskala I say Toronto would be a much better team if Cujo was the number 1 goalie, Toskala was backup and they can keep Pogge in the miners for ever or get rid of him for all I care, he's not good enough for the Leafs
I'm curious who is the better goalie Toronto should trade Toskala for?
Personally I say keep Toskala as the starter, and have Pogge as back-up. Sorry Cujo, you're too old to be a goalie in the NHL.
well there are alot of Goalies I'd trade Toskala away for even Roloson or Garon, Tim Thomas or Manny Fernandez, Steve Mason or Pascal Leclaire, Joey McDonald, Cam Ward, Martin Gerber, Mike Smith...ect they are all better than Toskala |
| hanley6 |
Posted - 12/30/2008 : 19:19:45
I wouldn't say he's too old haha, at least he didn't play like he's too old... He just played a great game and he recorded his 450th career win tonight. I say they keep playing Cujo its nice to see a goalie that can stop the puck |
| Jephman |
Posted - 12/30/2008 : 18:48:42
quote:
Originally posted by hanley6
personally I think Toronto should Trade away Toskala for a better goalie but if they were to keep Toskala I say Toronto would be a much better team if Cujo was the number 1 goalie, Toskala was backup and they can keep Pogge in the miners for ever or get rid of him for all I care, he's not good enough for the Leafs
I'm curious who is the better goalie Toronto should trade Toskala for?
Personally I say keep Toskala as the starter, and have Pogge as back-up. Sorry Cujo, you're too old to be a goalie in the NHL. |
| Hustler90 |
Posted - 12/30/2008 : 18:02:14
Try to find one of this guys post that isn't saying the complete opposite of what everyone else says just for the sake of argument. |
| Porkchop73 |
Posted - 12/30/2008 : 16:36:25
quote:
Originally posted by hanley6
woo hoo Toronto should win tonight Cujo is starting tonights game
You must have set a record for most posts in your first two days as a member. I also must tell you that it is Leaf fans like you that make a Leaf fan like myself and everywhere else look like idiots. Take your Maple Leaf glasses off. You will see that there is 29 other teams and close to 700 other players to talk about. It would be nice to see your opinions without the Maple Leafs being the only answer. You have made some great points only to spoil them with too much Maple Leafs rule stuff. My apologies to all if this was offensive to anyone. |
