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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
 Posted - 04/14/2007 : 16:54:12
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| This isn't the only free site...a lot of forums are free to join. |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2007 : 14:02:18
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| Now the rankings are back but the stars aren't, and the rankings are different. I used to be an All-Star, now I'm a Veteran. What's the new ranking system now? |
Edited by - Mikhailova on 04/18/2007 14:08:23 |
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semin-rules
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1915 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2007 : 14:06:41
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Yeah, I was just going to point that out. I used to be an All-Star but now i'm a pro. Has this happend on purpose or is it a glitch?
~~~~~COME ON STARS, LETS BRING IT HOME~~~~~ |
Edited by - semin-rules on 04/18/2007 14:11:46 |
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leafsfan_101
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1530 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2007 : 15:01:03
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Someone needs to explain. I was a vetren and now am suddenly a rookie once more.
Comments and feedback please!!
When life gives you lemons throw them at the Ottawa Senators and their fans and hope it gets them in the eyes ;) |
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BigShow
Rookie
177 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2007 : 15:42:43
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I'm totally overstepping my bounds here, as i am still a newb in these parts.
But i don't understand why you guys even care...
The point that is trying to be impressed upon the regular posters is that what matters is quality, not quantity. Everyone piped up that they agree, and then immediately takes notice that the titles are active again but different.
Maybe they aren't even directly tied to post count anymore, maybe the mods are now just giving a series of 'custom' titles to those that have reached a certain post count based on their thoughts on that poster?
I know i have thrown out a few one line responses, which is what they are trying to get away from. But there are several people that are pushing a thousand posts and every single post of their's, that i've seen, is a one liner. Even the ones agreeing with how it is the quality that matters.
The community is strengthened when people put their ideas and opinions out there. I mean actually put some thought togethor, for or against the topic, bring something new to the discussion. Don't be afraid to be wrong, everyone is a lot of the time. It's the idea that matters, that stirs conversation.
Worrying about your post count, as though that gives your words more merit is just silly. Same goes for the titles. It's the words you put down that will earn you the respect of the other members, if that is what you're after. And if you're really just wanting to have a high post count for no reason but to have a high post count, maybe you should be concentrating on another site that allows games like Count-to-a-Million.
I didn't mean for this to come across as a flame of any sort or an attack on anyone. And while it looks like a rhetorical question it isn't.
Really, ask yourselves, why are the titles even worth noticing?
Does being a top prospect mean your opinion is less valuable than if you were a veteran?
Does having 1200 posts mean you are better equipped to determine if it will take Buffalo five games or six to knock off the Isles?
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2007 : 15:46:04
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| Dude, I was just ASKING what the new system was, I was just curious. It's not like I want to know how many more posts I need to be an All-Star again so I can go make a zillion useless posts, I was just wondering what the new rules were. Is that a crime? |
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Kashmire
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
506 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2007 : 16:02:42
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| I think he Big Show is right on that...I think you guys kinda were dissapointed to see your ranks drop. There are alot of people on this forum that have gotten many of their posts from pointless posts like..."Oh darn calgary lost" or something along those lines. Well, this has been adressed before so I'll stop. |
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leafsfan_101
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1530 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2007 : 16:06:46
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Originally posted by Mikhailova
Dude, I was just ASKING what the new system was, I was just curious. It's not like I want to know how many more posts I need to be an All-Star again so I can go make a zillion useless posts, I was just wondering what the new rules were. Is that a crime?
Im the same MIK. I think our reps are good enough to know that our posts are legit and we don't post useless garbage.
When life gives you lemons throw them at the Ottawa Senators and their fans and hope it gets them in the eyes ;) |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2007 : 16:08:27
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| Guys geez...we're not disappointed (well I'm not, at least) about the rankings dropping. The only reason I even mentioned them was just as an example of how the rankings were changing, not because I was unhappy about it. And I already told you, I was only curious about the new rules, stop turning this into a huge deal... |
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Saku Steen
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1102 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2007 : 16:37:38
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Could Admin or babs clear all this up??
I've figured it out, the guys gotta play like girls! |
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admin
Forum Admin
Canada
2338 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2007 : 17:58:16
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Ok gang, I've left everyone in the dark for a bit because of 3 reasons:
1) I wanted time to think it all through
2) I wanted time for you guys to debate this a bit.
3) It is a very busy time of year for us at PickupHockey
The titles are back at least temporarily. This is because when I shut them off, the moderator title gets shut off as well. At this time we can not turn the moderator titles back on without turning everyone's titles back on. So for the time being we all have titles again. I will be following up shortly with a full post explaining everything, but due to the switch to the playoff season this debate for me has taken a lower priority. Look for a full post on this topic this weekend.
In the meantime feel free to keep debating it or feel free to go to the other areas of the forum and talk hockey. It's your call. |
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jbraiter
PickupHockey Pro
577 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2007 : 18:20:06
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| ok thanks a lot admin |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 04/21/2007 : 22:37:20
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Just out of curiosity what is the posts to get to the new rankings now?
Only out of curiosity. |
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Guest4462
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Posted - 04/22/2007 : 03:45:23
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| get rid of the stupid rankings once and for all. |
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willus3
Moderator
Canada
1948 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2007 : 07:42:30
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If it matters to you how much you contribute, the number of posts you have made is always there. Why does a title matter? The only title that matters on this site is that of moderator.
"Go chase headlights!" |
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99pickles
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
671 Posts |
Posted - 05/26/2007 : 16:08:36
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For some reason I am having problems putting multiple quotes into one post so I will just address each post/quote/person specifically... sorry.
Big Show hits the nail on the head : those that agreed about it being a problem are some of the ones that noticed instantly when titles were removed. The idea of custom titles that are not related to post counts is a fairly good idea. Except from the site's point of view - because it is still, at least, a small motivator to post a little more when there is a number adding up. And that is good for business, and that keeps a strong site alive for me, the consumer. Everyone wins.
Like BigShow I too threw out a couple oneliner/agreeance posts before, but will never do so again because it reflects poorly on me just like anything in life that anyone does half-a$$ed. Even though they don't realize it. And comically, there are even one word posts in this thread too (go look see who it is).
Like Ripley I might take a break (even though after over a year of lurking and reading, I only just recently joined to post something a month ago - but I was busting at the seems about some things !
So that's the crux of the whole issue : how do you motivate people to post more without a post-counter ?
Only posts in certain threads or topics will allow a +1? But that will only result in the worst offenders swamping the best topic/ threads.
A certain few lighter threads do not get any +1(like Gamenight thread?)? But that would just kill those threads and cause the number chasers to flood the serious topics.
Only responses of more than 30 words give you a +1? 50 words? But that cannot include quoted material though.
Have 2 different post counters, one for posts over 50 words, one for under? Not a bad idea - it will definitely show who at least attempts to author meaningful posts.
The Mods grade each post on it's own merit ? That's a little time-consuming and labour-intensive. Plus lobbying may result. Also, how do you grade ;and some posters may have "homer" status with the Mods (please don't lash out here, just brainstorming ) Interesting idea though.
Here's an interesting stat : one member of this site had only(yeah, only!) 300 posts in their first 3 months, 400 in their first for months (approximations). The minute 300 posts was changed to 2500 posts to achieve the highest status label ( 'Legend' I think they call it), this person went on to make a brief comment on the status change and then posted 2100 TIMES IN THE NEXT 3 1/2 MONTHS !! I have estimated 3 1/2 on the generous side too, I believe it to be less. 2100 divided by 110 days is 20/day for over 3 straight months. To put this into perspective: Most people are having a hard time logging in to "Quest for the Cup" on a daily basis for half that amount of time-span(ok, 2 months), let alone WRITING OUT 20 MEANINGFUL POSTS A DAY. Talk about stats-padding !!
Although it is quite lengthy I have spent more time on this post (over an hour?) than that person has on everything they have written in the past month. And this whole issue is only agitating to me on a medium level.
I like BigShow's idea of custom titles but I would prefer that they have a forum for them and after every milestone (500 posts or so) they have a poll where they offer 4, 6, 8 etc custom titles for the person that the REST of the members vote on (sorry, no guests on this one: possible vote infiltration!)
They could range from the comical to something that is an ongoing motif with that person's opinions or posts ( mine could be "Mr. Long-Winded" if I ever got to 500 posts).
Actually at the speed-rate of some posters, it would have to be at least every 750 posts. |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 05/26/2007 : 16:32:56
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| If post count supposedly doesn't matter to people, why is it such a big deal to them that some of us have large numbers of posts? If the rankings don't matter, why is it such a big deal how fast we move up them? Not EVERY post on here is going to be meaningful, this is an online forum not an Ivy League debating thesis. And it's about hockey, how intellectual can you get? It's not like this is philosophy class here. Geez loosen up already. |
Edited by - Mikhailova on 05/26/2007 16:36:52 |
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SlowShot
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
264 Posts |
Posted - 05/26/2007 : 17:43:42
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Ya i completely agree with Mik. Some people take this like every post we do we have to write a essay about and where getting marked on it. Anyways some of the longer posts are boring very boring and when i finish reading it makes me feel like a  |
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irvine
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1315 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2007 : 08:35:22
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I think it is all silly, personally. What does the rank truly mean? Nothing. Just make your posts regarding topics you are interested in or want to have a say in. We're all here for reason and one reason only... to discuss a game we all love. So don't worry about ranks. If you want ranks, join the army. Otherwise, just type and enjoy the conversation.
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