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nuxfan
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 Posted - 01/22/2011 : 09:51:12
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an unexpected move. NYI certainly needs a reliable goalie and has cap space galore, but I didn't think they would bother with Nabby at this point in the season.
And I agree, Nabby will play for whoever takes him, if only to secure an NHL contract next year. He'll be UFA after this stint with the Islanders. |
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Beans15
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Posted - 01/22/2011 : 10:23:31
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I think the Islanders will move him to Detroit for something. Why would Nabokov want to even come over from Russia for this?? It's not like he has been poorly paid in his career and needs the $250k??
I think Nabokov still ends up in Detroit and the Islanders will get a draft pick out of the deal. |
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Guest0218
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Posted - 01/22/2011 : 10:36:38
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| As I believe was stated earlier, Nabokov would have to clear waivers again before the NYI could trade him. So no team would trade for him they would just grab him from waivers. |
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Beans15
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Posted - 01/22/2011 : 10:59:04
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Originally posted by Guest0218
As I believe was stated earlier, Nabokov would have to clear waivers again before the NYI could trade him. So no team would trade for him they would just grab him from waivers.
No, he does not have to clear waivers twice?? He was picked up by the Islanders. Now he can either play for them or be traded to anyother team.
A player only has to clear waivers upon a trade if that players has cleared waivers once and has been playing on the farm. For example, Sheldon Souray would have to clear waivers if he was traded. Nabokov doesn't. |
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ryan93
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Posted - 01/22/2011 : 12:04:30
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According to Bob McKenzie Beans, Nabokov would indeed have to be put back on waivers & clear before the Islanders would be able to trade him. The rule was put in place for that very reason, to discourage teams like Jersey or the Isles from picking him up with the intention of dealing him for their teams benefit.
The only way Nabokov can end up in Detroit this season is if he's put back on waivers & the 27 or 28 teams before the Wings pass on him. He's also ineligible from playing in the AHL this season. |
Edited by - ryan93 on 01/22/2011 12:08:02 |
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Beans15
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Posted - 01/22/2011 : 12:13:49
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Interesting... I didn't know that!!
Sounds like TSN's source says Nabokov won't report to Long Island so expect him to be suspended by the team(and not play anywhere) or him to be back on waivers shortly. |
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ryan93
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Posted - 01/22/2011 : 12:24:56
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| Can't really say i blame him for not wanting to play for the Islanders. I would like to see him back in the NHL though, so hopefully they put him back on waivers & ends up on a playoff calibre team. |
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Alex116
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Posted - 01/22/2011 : 12:38:57
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I don't expect him to show up to play for NYI. Here's the thing, what can he prove playing on a brutal team? The risk / reward factor is very low for him there. Sure, he could play all world and earn a big contract from another team for next year, but chances are, with a bad team, he could look terrible and his value could take a blow!
His agent's prob told him to sit back and relax, stay in shape, train, etc and wait for someone to come calling in the summer! |
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Guest4695
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Posted - 01/22/2011 : 12:49:38
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Go figure Islanders claim Nabokov; agent says he won't report because he isnt going to a winning team ... Capital "L" for LOSER go back to Russia.. You sucked there you well be no better here...
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Guest4695
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Posted - 01/22/2011 : 12:51:50
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| I hope he sits and Routs in the Islnaders System they wont put him on waivers again so he can get what he wants um NO.. dont do it Snow.. Suspend him and let him Twittle his thumbs tell they fall off.. |
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Porkchop73
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Posted - 01/22/2011 : 13:05:11
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Islanders, have they given up on perennial infermary patient Dipietro. What do the Islanders have to prove with picking up a 35 yr old goalie. They have been rebuilding longer then any other team in the NHL. Really, how many low first round picks do you need before you start to break out.
Is there a deal in works and they picked up Nabby to fill a void? This does not make sense.
Nabby not reporting to the team is a joke. I think it is so disrespectful of players to do that. |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 01/22/2011 : 18:01:52
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interesting insight from hotstove...
1. Snow is still talking to Nabby to try and convince him to take the job
2. NYI has a legitimate need for a goalie - Their top-2 goalies (DiPietro and Lawson) are injured, and they want 3rd string Poulin to develop in the AHL right now. Nabby represented a very well-priced proven goalie that NYI could get without giving up anything in return.
3. NYI not only wants Nabby for the year, but possibly to resign him for next year as well.
Also, just in case the waiver rule for returning European players was not already complex enough... apparently if NYI does put him back on waivers, they can do it one of two ways:
1. put him back on waivers with intent to trade - if so, ONLY the teams that put in a waiver request originally would be allowed to claim him as part of a trade.
2. put him back on waivers with no trade intent - all teams have a shot at him again.
I can see that the lawyers were busy during the last CBA negotiation....
If he chooses not to play for NYI, I would like to see Snow just suspend him and let him sit |
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The Duke
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Posted - 01/23/2011 : 09:28:06
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Yes according to TSN reporters the NYI cannot trade Nabby unless they put him through waivers. He has to clear waivers again before the Islanders can trade him.
These ( over - seas, outside of the NHL players ) waiver rules were brought into place to prevent any team to load up before playoff time. As unfair as it seems for Detroit to do the leg work and lose this player through waivers............
How fair would it be for a contender like Detroit ( or some other ) to maybe bring in some groomed players like maybe J.Jagr and 2 more of his experience for a playoff push ??
Hell a team would be able to bring in a complete bonafied 2nd line if they looked hard enough, just for 2 months of work !!!
No, i think its just fine the way it is. Don`t let one teams GM have some kind of advantage over other teams. We all know that if these Over-seas rentals are available then they would for sure have Detroit on their radar first. |
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Guest0218
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Posted - 01/23/2011 : 09:28:44
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http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=350647
According to this article, if Nabokov decides not to play for NYI this season the Islanders can appeal to "toll" the contract. Essentially transferring Nabokov's 1-year deal to next season, forcing him to play for the Islanders next year.
That seems a little unfair to Nabokov. I'm fine with him not being able to just join any team he wants more than half way through the season, but to force him to play for a bottom-feeder team for an entire year because of a contract he signed with another team... He could have just waited and signed with any team in the off-season. But I guess it will force him to play this year... |
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ToXXiK1
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 01/26/2011 : 03:26:39
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New York entered Tuesday with the third-worst goals-against average (3.20) in the league.
Nabokov was 8-8-5 with a 3.02 goals-against average and a .888 save percentage in 22 games with St. Petersburg.
I don't see the big deal here?
"Hockey is a man's game. The team with the most real men wins.” - Brian Burke |
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