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T-RAV
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 Posted - 02/09/2011 : 03:24:10
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Should the League look at implementing a no touch icing rule??
I have been on both sides of the fence on this one.
I used to think it was an integral part of the game, and it is exciting.
However, as I get older and more mature(my g/f would argue this) I tend to lean toward the "safer" play. Guys are getting more aggressive and some are getting injured.
I understand the competitive side of it also, but when does competition take a back seat to safety?
I've seen several injuries this year because guys will deliberately "slew foot" or trip up their opposition. For instance Michalek and Ballard racing for icing on Monday.
Someone did it to Beauchemin a few games ago too(can't remember who...Damned short term memory), and when there was no penalty on the play Beauch took it into his own hands and cross checked the douche bag, which drew a penalty. Makes PERFECT SENSE. 'Cause clearly you are just supposed to slide head first into the boards and risk breaking your neck.
Something has to be done about this RIDICULOUS dinosaur rule.
So my question again is:
Should the League look at implementing a no touch icing rule??
"If we succumb to a dream world, then we will wake up to a nightmare" - Jimmy Carter
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Guest5940
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Posted - 02/09/2011 : 07:12:47
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| god no, they should take out the high sticking rule though and put in a hand ball |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 02/09/2011 : 09:01:59
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T-RAV....i've thought hard about this many times and i can't decide. You see, i love the play where a guy purposely shoots it in wide of the net from his side of centre for his winger to take the carom off the end boards and wire a one timer on net. The Sedin's do this often as do many others. It's a set play similar to when a winger will break off the face off and a guy will dump it in hard around the boards and he'll beat the icing call (easily) for offensive zone possession. This play is made even more possible by the new goalie "trapezoid" rule where they can't come out to get some of these shoot-ins! This is why i have trouble saying yes to your question. However, no one likes to see a guy get hurt chasing a puck as you suggest.
I guess i'm really still undecided on this?
Oh, BTW, the Ballard / Michalek "slew foot" was nothing to do with an icing call............
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 02/09/2011 : 09:28:13
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You see, i love the play where a guy purposely shoots it in wide of the net from his side of centre for his winger to take the carom off the end boards and wire a one timer on net. The Sedin's do this often as do many others.
I also like this play, the Sedin's do it often, and do it well. Other teams have started doing it as well, its a good way to create an offensive chance out of nothing.
I think that the footrace situation has actually diminished in recent years - now that we have the no-linechange rule on icing, I see a lot more teams pull up to conserve energy rather than chase down a puck that is likely to end up as an icing call. |
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Guest4178
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Posted - 02/09/2011 : 10:06:29
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I'm not in favour of no-touch icing. I think the NHL did the right thing a few years ago by adding the following to the rule book:
"Any contact between opposing players while pursuing the puck on an icing must be for the sole purpose of playing the puck and not for eliminating the opponent from playing the puck. Unnecessary or dangerous contact could result in penalties being assessed to the offending player."
If anything, referees need to make the call more often – when a player hits another player when pursuing a potential iced puck.
The reality is that hockey is a game of puck pursuit. There are very few occasions when two players are in a close race for an iced puck, especially in comparison to other situations of puck pursuit. For example, watch how many times a team dumps the puck in from just inside the centre line, or just outside the blue line in a hockey game. It happens dozens of times, and in most cases, there is a forechecker coming hard for the puck, and a collision often takes place. I don't see the difference in danger or vulnerability when comparing this to an iced puck? (And once again, these kind of plays take place way more often than iced pucks.) What should the NHL do? Institute a rule that players cannot hit players when pursuing a puck which is shot in from outside the blueline? I don't think so.
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ToXXiK1
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 02/09/2011 : 10:18:58
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| Agreed, the Refs need to call the penalty more often. That being said, if 2 players are racing for the puck, what's the point of smokin' the guy who touches it first? Is it because you lost the race? There's no reason for hammering a guy on an icing call, because it's still icing and you could put your team on the PK for your stupidity. |
Edited by - ToXXiK1 on 02/09/2011 10:20:03 |
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T-RAV
Top Prospect
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Posted - 02/10/2011 : 04:10:25
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I wasn't aware of this rule, contact on icing. It should definitely be called more often.
For some reason, many of you seem to think I'm a puss, or that I think there should be no body contact. This is not the case. Otherwise I'd only watch European hockey and All-star games.
I am not suggesting that we make the game into basketball. I don't like no touch icing as much either, but I really don't like losing a key player just because the other guy is pissed off that he wasn't the fastest.
Slew-footing or knocking out someones feet when you are racing for a puck is just a dirt bag move and should be penalized as such.
Alex, and Nuxfan, I understand that the shoot arounds are exciting to watch, but are you suggesting that it can't be done from the centre line? (rhetorical)
So, now that I am aware of this "rule" that exists, I would definitely rather see this enforced than no touch icing. So it looks like I should have put this topic as a post in the "refs need better optical plan" thread.
My apologies for the mistake on the Ballard injury. I had apparently just caught a glimpse of it. Still a slew foot though.
"If we succumb to a dream world, then we will wake up to a nightmare" - Jimmy Carter
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 02/10/2011 : 08:50:37
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Originally posted by T-RAV
Alex, and Nuxfan, I understand that the shoot arounds are exciting to watch, but are you suggesting that it can't be done from the centre line? (rhetorical)
The one's we are referring to can't. We're talking about the ones done (set plays) from your own end, usually even inside your own blueline! Was at the Canucks game last night and they did it at least once. Daniel took off as soon as he saw the puck was being sent and he never looked back. He "found" the puck's path and immediately went to where it was going and ended up with possession in the Ducks end! This wasn't the type i referred to before that he and Henrik usually do where they bank it off the boards for a goal scoring chance, but it's a good play nonetheless.
I totally agree with you though, i don't like to see the race for the puck where a guy takes a cheap hit cuz he lost or even an innocent one where a guy ends up injured.
I also noticed last night the example Nuxfan gave about guys often giving up knowing that they're stuck on the ice after the whistle so thus conserving energy! Malhotra did exactly this last night in the 3rd on a puck that he may have had a shot at, but prob not? |
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foot race for icing 
