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ED11
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 Posted - 03/08/2007 : 07:40:20
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Poll Question:
Who is the best PLAYMAKER in the current NHL?
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Edited by - bablaboushka on 03/08/2007 09:36:04
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ED11
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 03/08/2007 : 07:42:12
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| I think it is Crosby...he sees the ice like no one else has since you know who... |
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bablaboushka
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 03/08/2007 : 09:36:32
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| Another poll that Crosby is going to win.... |
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willus3
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 03/08/2007 : 10:48:03
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| Crosby will more than likely win this poll but I think it's a toss up between Thornton, Crosby and Savard. I voted Savard. I'd love to see him centre Lecavalier, Selanne or Ovechkin. He's the next Adam Oates. Maybe even better. |
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semin-rules
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 03/08/2007 : 10:58:53
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quote:
Originally posted by bablaboushka
Another poll that Crosby is going to win....
I don't think Crosby is such a playmaker I think he gets set up by great playmaekrs like Armstrong
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Saku Steen
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1102 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2007 : 11:00:01
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| Crosby is a great playmaker buy Savard is better. |
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bablaboushka
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 03/08/2007 : 11:22:42
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I voted Thornton and would have even if he was still in Boston. What Thornton does on top of making nice passes that sets him apart from the others is that, like I said in another thread, he pulls opponents away from the front of the net/slot to try to contain him, usually when he's behind the net. This opens up space for the wingers on his line, so he then just feathers a nice little pass to them. Playmaking is not just making nice passes, it's opening up room for plays to be made, and I think Thornton is the best in the league at doing it.
Savard and Crosby are great PASSERS, they just don't open up the ice like Thornton does. Not to take away from them though, they see the ice and make passes you didn't think were possible. |
Edited by - bablaboushka on 03/08/2007 11:23:19 |
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ED11
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 03/08/2007 : 12:07:50
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Originally posted by bablaboushka
I voted Thornton and would have even if he was still in Boston. What Thornton does on top of making nice passes that sets him apart from the others is that, like I said in another thread, he pulls opponents away from the front of the net/slot to try to contain him, usually when he's behind the net. This opens up space for the wingers on his line, so he then just feathers a nice little pass to them. Playmaking is not just making nice passes, it's opening up room for plays to be made, and I think Thornton is the best in the league at doing it.
Savard and Crosby are great PASSERS, they just don't open up the ice like Thornton does. Not to take away from them though, they see the ice and make passes you didn't think were possible.
I take it you are not the biggest Crosby fan? I know you're not trying to take anything away from guys like him and Savard and yes you are right playmaking is not just about passing...playing making is making something out of nothing. It's controlling the play. And to be completely honest with you I didn't think Crosby would win this poll just because everyone has so much against him for some reason...which is another thing I don't understand...but that is another matter of its own. Anyway, I think Crosby is the best playmaker in the NHL right now...not to take anything away from Thornton either. |
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tctitans
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
931 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2007 : 12:11:57
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| Henrik Sedin. ;) |
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jbraiter
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 03/08/2007 : 12:47:12
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Originally posted by tctitans
Henrik Sedin. ;)
I agree
Go Canucks |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 03/08/2007 : 12:51:01
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Chris Pronger. Not only through the outlet pass, but his QBing on the powerplay is undeniable. Most people would say a forward is the best play maker, but most often, the play is set up by a D-Man from the back. The forwards just have to finish.
Just my thought. |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 03/08/2007 : 17:19:18
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Thornton always tape to tape passes and look what he did for Cheechoo but hes not helping cheechoo that much this year
GO Sabres GO!!!!!! |
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Canucks Man
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 03/08/2007 : 17:24:23
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quote:
Originally posted by tctitans
Henrik Sedin. ;)
YEAH!!!! thats right buddy
CANUCKS RULE!! |
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leigh
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 03/08/2007 : 17:25:48
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| there are lots of guys who could be considered and on any given day either one of them could be the best. But it's hard not to argue that J. Thornton is one of the best, if not the best on the most consistent basis. Babs is right, he commands attention and therefore opens up space. He's just entered his prime and he'll even get better. |
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-oil-country-
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 03/14/2007 : 20:46:40
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Originally posted by PainTrain
Thornton always tape to tape passes and look what he did for Cheechoo but hes not helping cheechoo that much this year
GO Sabres GO!!!!!!
I don't think it's Thornton's fault I think they just lost there chemistry (Mik any jokes  ?) also last year was a fluke. |
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Canucks Man
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 03/14/2007 : 23:17:48
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It's definatly not Thronton not helping Cheechoo, its Cheechoo was pure fluke last year, they way thronton rolled last year, Alex Burrows would have scored 50
CANUCKS RULE!!! |
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Saku Steen
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 03/15/2007 : 04:43:34
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Originally posted by Canucks Man
It's definatly not Thronton not helping Cheechoo, its Cheechoo was pure fluke last year, they way thronton rolled last year, Alex Burrows would have scored 50
CANUCKS RULE!!!
Are you saying Alex Burrows is bad? |
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bablaboushka
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 03/15/2007 : 09:26:47
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| Guys it wasn't a COMPLETE fluke. Cheechoo is a 30-40 goal scorer and Thornton boosted that to 56 because that's the type of player that he is. Will Cheechoo ever hit 56 again? I think it's POSSIBLE, although less probable than him hanging around the 35 goal mark. Everyone is quick to forget (or doesn't know at all) that he's had some knee problems this year, causing him to miss at least a half dozen games and even when he plays he hasn't been 100% most of the year. Give him a full, healthy season and I say he scores 45 goals. |
Edited by - bablaboushka on 03/15/2007 09:27:33 |
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Guest0910
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Posted - 03/15/2007 : 09:47:59
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| i'm not gonna argue with crosby but whoever left spezza off that list is an idiot |
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Saku Steen
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 03/15/2007 : 10:55:06
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Originally posted by Guest0910
i'm not gonna argue with crosby but whoever left spezza off that list is an idiot
Thats a nice thing to say, you seem so nice. |
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oil fan97
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 03/16/2007 : 19:21:06
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Originally posted by semin-rules
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Originally posted by bablaboushka
Another poll that Crosby is going to win....
I don't think Crosby is such a playmaker I think he gets set up by great playmaekrs like Armstrong
~~~~~GO STARS~~~~~
Crosby is goona win |
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Guest4567
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Posted - 03/16/2007 : 20:50:44
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| tough poll..I like it. The problem is define playmaker..is it passer,visioner,sweet hands,seeing ice well I dont know. Best pure passes has to be wellwood puck to tape...best vision crosby,best hands to move puck Savard, best use of body to move puck Thornton, best overall playmaker Jagr. But remember to be a playmaker you need a scorer and who has the best scorers...Savard-Murray,Thornton-Cheechoo-guiren,Jagr-Shanahan,Crosby-Recchi.. Now make your pick |
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Canucks Man
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 03/16/2007 : 23:43:32
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quote:
Originally posted by Saku Steen
quote:
Originally posted by Canucks Man
It's definatly not Thronton not helping Cheechoo, its Cheechoo was pure fluke last year, they way thronton rolled last year, Alex Burrows would have scored 50
CANUCKS RULE!!!
Are you saying Alex Burrows is bad?
Im not saying hes bad at all, I love the guy, i think hes great allways brings energy and jump to hit game, but all im saying is he has 2 goals and if he played with a guy like thornton he would have a s***load more.
CANUCKS RULE!!! |
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Canucks Man
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 03/16/2007 : 23:45:31
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Oh and babs im just saying 56 was a little flukie, correct me if im wrong but didnt Cheechoo have like 8 goals when thornton started with the sharks?
CANUCKS RULE!!! |
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1 Crosby fan
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 03/17/2007 : 00:05:51
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| Guess who i said |
Edited by - 1 Crosby fan on 03/17/2007 00:06:24 |
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Saku Steen
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1102 Posts |
Posted - 03/17/2007 : 05:03:31
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Originally posted by 1 Crosby fan
Guess who i said
Who? Thornton? |
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Canucks Man
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 03/17/2007 : 09:15:34
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Saku, he picked Crosby
CANUCKS RULE!!! |
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semin-rules
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 03/17/2007 : 10:13:08
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quote:
Originally posted by Saku Steen
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Originally posted by 1 Crosby fan
Guess who i said
Who? Thornton?
HAHAHA why would you think he picked Thorton?
His name isn't 1 Thorton fan
~~~~~GO STARS~~~~~ |
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Saku Steen
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1102 Posts |
Posted - 03/17/2007 : 12:33:37
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| It was a joke! sorry to confuse you guys. |
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semin-rules
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 03/17/2007 : 12:40:25
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Originally posted by Saku Steen
It was a joke! sorry to confuse you guys.
I know it was a joke I was just messing with ya
~~~~~GO STARS~~~~~ |
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Guest0920
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Posted - 03/17/2007 : 16:43:02
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| spezza is best player maker in game.... gets at least an assist every game... heatley wouldnt be anywhere without him |
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Posted - 03/18/2007 : 13:33:02
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Originally posted by Guest0920
spezza is best player maker in game.... gets at least an assist every game... heatley wouldnt be anywhere without him
finally someone else who understands playmeaker and ed11 i am nice your just naive and probably american |
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bablaboushka
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 03/18/2007 : 13:39:42
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0910, if you don't have anything to contribute except for misspelled personal attacks, please don't.
0920, you are way out to lunch! First of all being a playmaker is not just "getting an assist every game" something Spezza doesn't do anyways. It's about creating space for your linemates and being able to spot them anywhere on the ice and set them up for scoring chances.
By the way, Heatley scored 24 points in 14 games while Spezza was out, so you might want to reconsider your second statement too. |
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Canucks Man
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 03/18/2007 : 13:42:15
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quote:
Originally posted by Guest0920
spezza is best player maker in game.... gets at least an assist every game... heatley wouldnt be anywhere without him
1: Heatley dominated when Spezza was out of the lineup
2: He didnt get an assist last night and has well under an assist per game
CANUCKS RULE!!! |
Edited by - Canucks Man on 03/18/2007 14:07:10 |
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Guest7039
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Posted - 03/18/2007 : 14:04:59
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| i say its thornton |
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1 Crosby fan
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 03/18/2007 : 14:11:59
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| HA he was right i picked Thornton |
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Saku Steen
PickupHockey Veteran
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Posted - 03/18/2007 : 14:42:42
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quote:
Originally posted by 1 Crosby fan
HA he was right i picked Thornton
Called that, or is that a joke..... |
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1 Crosby fan
PickupHockey Veteran
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Posted - 03/18/2007 : 14:47:37
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quote:
Originally posted by Saku Steen
quote:
Originally posted by 1 Crosby fan
HA he was right i picked Thornton
Called that, or is that a joke.....
no i did |
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bablaboushka
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 03/18/2007 : 16:18:09
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| Guys, enough with the useless banter. |
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ED11
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 03/19/2007 : 13:13:21
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quote:
Originally posted by Guest0910
quote:
Originally posted by Guest0920
spezza is best player maker in game.... gets at least an assist every game... heatley wouldnt be anywhere without him
finally someone else who understands playmeaker and ed11 i am nice your just naive and probably american
Thanks for the insults. I am Canadian by the way. When you come on this site to make comments think about what you are saying because most people here try thinking objectivly when making a comment. As for your thought about Spezza, I agree he is a very good playmaker and maybe I should have put him up there. But I did put other which you could have easily selected and just specified that you thought it was Spezza.
But for the future please try not insulting anyone. Thanks. |
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BigShow
Rookie
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Posted - 03/20/2007 : 10:30:32
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Brad Richards didn't even make the list?
For playmaking the best is probably Thornton, but Spezza and Crosby will be usurping him in the next year or so. |
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Best Playmaker currently in the NHL? 
