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Guest7116
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 Posted - 01/19/2012 : 15:06:27
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What do you guys think about a change where the winner of the allstar game gets home advantage in the stanley cup finals? Could make it a little more exciting as there is a little something to play for.
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nuxfan
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Posted - 01/19/2012 : 15:56:50
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| a six-pack of beer to the winner would make the all-star game more competitive than it already is... I see more competition in games my 5 year old nephew plays on the weekends. |
Edited by - nuxfan on 01/19/2012 15:57:42 |
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ryan93
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Posted - 01/19/2012 : 16:08:19
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I wouldn't be a fan of that move at all. Honestly, I'm not sure how you'd make the all-star game more competitive/entertaining. Have a team of NHL all-stars play a team of KHL all-stars??
Regardless, I still like all-star weekend. I look forward to the draft again & the skills competition. |
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Guest5744
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Posted - 01/20/2012 : 05:49:15
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| HORRIBLE IDEA |
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Guest7961
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Posted - 01/21/2012 : 03:47:05
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| NHL champs play the so-called all stars for 2 points in the NHL champs building. A real game. |
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Guest4465
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Posted - 01/21/2012 : 05:35:04
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HORRIBLE IDEA.
Makes no sense at all, think about it, before you post. |
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Alex116
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Posted - 01/21/2012 : 09:36:32
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Originally posted by Guest7961
NHL champs play the so-called all stars for 2 points in the NHL champs building. A real game.
HUH? Come again? So, what you're saying is, the Bruins play a home game vs the rest of the league's best, and if they win, they get 2 points in the standings?
I gotta give you credit for thinking outside the box as this is an idea that i've never heard before, but i can't say i like it..... |
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Guest4927
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Posted - 01/21/2012 : 10:35:19
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| first they need the fan's to stop picking the players, should be based on stats alone. |
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Guest7116
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Posted - 01/21/2012 : 12:04:54
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| I just think the game is so boring. The D are supposed to play like pylons and if they try, they look like try hards out there. The only thing I look forward to is the draft and skills comp. There has got to be a way to make the game more entertaining |
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spade632
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Posted - 01/21/2012 : 22:09:51
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From the Bleacher Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1026833-2012-nhl-all-star-game-5-ways-to-improve-the-all-star-game)
5 Ways to improve the All-Star game:
1) Hold it outside like the Winter / Heritage Classic
This would be a cool idea BUT not every year.
2) Offer a purse (through sponsorship or otherwise) so players on the winning team get a "bonus."
As the saying goes, "Money makes the world go 'round" - If they were playing for a purse (the example given is $5million which would work out to ~$250,000 / player on the winning team) it would probably inject some life into the game. That said, I don't think this is a good idea it's not as if the players are generally hurting for money. Maybe if they played for a charity?
3) 4-on-4 for the whole game
This would definitely open up the game and lead to plenty of end-to-end rushes. then again, the All-Star game is pretty much full of those anyways - when's the last time you saw someone throw a hit (for example)?
4) Instead of Powerplays give penalty shots
Great idea. Kerry Fraser did this (with the coaches' permission) at the 2010 Winter Classic Alumni Game > http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=384332
5) And, as Guest 7116 says - make it count. Winning conference gets home ice advantage in the playoffs.
Works for me. If they were playing for something concrete it would be more exciting. There might even be strategy involved, not to mention a few hits thrown!
Your thoughts?
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Leafs81
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 01/22/2012 : 10:28:08
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I don't like all the negative energy that's going on around the all star game. Everybody (media and fans) seems to hate it. But really just look at when you were a kid 10-13 years old, how excited you were at the all star weekend. There's many good things about the all star game and of course it's not competitive, let the players show their skills, not get hurt and mostly let the kids enjoy the game.
If the kids it's all they hear from their parents and the media that the all star game sucks, well they will grow to not like it.
It's a great weekend for the kids to enjoy the game and watch their favourite player score a hat trick, also a great weekend for the city and the fans that's gets the chance to host it.
The voting by the fans, yes although it's not the best players that gets selected because of that but the host city wants to see its own players on the ice so I think that's fair.
For the two captains that drafts it's cool and I hope Ovechkin gets drafted last and Phil Kessel takes a picture of him, that would be great for the game and the fans  |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 01/22/2012 : 11:33:47
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Originally posted by Leafs81
I don't like all the negative energy that's going on around the all star game. Everybody (media and fans) seems to hate it. But really just look at when you were a kid 10-13 years old, how excited you were at the all star weekend. There's many good things about the all star game and of course it's not competitive, let the players show their skills, not get hurt and mostly let the kids enjoy the game.
Well Leafs81, I don't know how old you are, but when I was 10-13 years old it was the early to mid 80's, and the all-star game was actually a pretty good game. The teams played with a normal sense of urgency, and played to showcase both offense and defense, although there were no particularly hard hits it was pretty fast paced and obviously good hockey. That was reflected in both shot counts and GA, the scores were not ridiculously out of line with scoring of the day. In all, I have fond memories of some allstar games, esp 85 when it was in my hometown-at-the-time Calgary.
I remember enjoying those games plenty. I don't enjoy it anymore. |
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Leafs81
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 01/22/2012 : 12:49:53
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quote:
Originally posted by nuxfan
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Originally posted by Leafs81
I don't like all the negative energy that's going on around the all star game. Everybody (media and fans) seems to hate it. But really just look at when you were a kid 10-13 years old, how excited you were at the all star weekend. There's many good things about the all star game and of course it's not competitive, let the players show their skills, not get hurt and mostly let the kids enjoy the game.
Well Leafs81, I don't know how old you are, but when I was 10-13 years old it was the early to mid 80's, and the all-star game was actually a pretty good game. The teams played with a normal sense of urgency, and played to showcase both offense and defense, although there were no particularly hard hits it was pretty fast paced and obviously good hockey. That was reflected in both shot counts and GA, the scores were not ridiculously out of line with scoring of the day. In all, I have fond memories of some allstar games, esp 85 when it was in my hometown-at-the-time Calgary.
I remember enjoying those games plenty. I don't enjoy it anymore.
Yeah I watched one of those 80's game on classic and gotta say it was pretty entertaining.
When I was 10 it was in 1992-93, so those mid 90's (93-98) game that I was referring to. I remember Owen Nolan throwing the odd hit once in a while but that's it. There was still a lot of excitment around the game (as a kid)
I think a lot of kids ARE enjoying the actual all star game of today and that is what a lot of older fans of the game are forgetting that the all star game is mostly for the kids and we should let them enjoy it. |
Edited by - Leafs81 on 01/22/2012 12:53:06 |
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Statman
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Posted - 01/23/2012 : 14:05:33
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Everybody is talking about making a change to the all-star game format?
Hello?! We just did that, and that's why we have an all-star draft. And the fact is...it works. Last year was pretty entertaining, actually.
The all-star games will never be a hard-hitting, regular season type affair like some people want it to be, and you know, I'm okay with that for one game of the seventy thousand that are played in a season.
By the way, I laugh at the suggetion that it should go to 4 on 4 to "open the game up". Yeah, that's the problem...the all-star game is too tight! Yeesh.
You guys need to relax and just enjoy the offensive talent on display. If you aren't capable of doing that, then just don't watch, and for god's sake, quit your bitching. If there is one thing more predictable than the lack of hitting in the all-star game, it's people bitching about it! |
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foolpittier
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 01/23/2012 : 15:39:27
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| they should add a dunk comp. |
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Guest0978
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Posted - 01/24/2012 : 23:57:09
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Originally posted by spade632
From the Bleacher Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1026833-2012-nhl-all-star-game-5-ways-to-improve-the-all-star-game)
5 Ways to improve the All-Star game:
1) Hold it outside like the Winter / Heritage Classic
This would be a cool idea BUT not every year.
2) Offer a purse (through sponsorship or otherwise) so players on the winning team get a "bonus."A bleacher report fan! So I'm not the only one!
As the saying goes, "Money makes the world go 'round" - If they were playing for a purse (the example given is $5million which would work out to ~$250,000 / player on the winning team) it would probably inject some life into the game. That said, I don't think this is a good idea it's not as if the players are generally hurting for money. Maybe if they played for a charity?
3) 4-on-4 for the whole game
This would definitely open up the game and lead to plenty of end-to-end rushes. then again, the All-Star game is pretty much full of those anyways - when's the last time you saw someone throw a hit (for example)?
4) Instead of Powerplays give penalty shots
Great idea. Kerry Fraser did this (with the coaches' permission) at the 2010 Winter Classic Alumni Game > http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=384332
5) And, as Guest 7116 says - make it count. Winning conference gets home ice advantage in the playoffs.
Works for me. If they were playing for something concrete it would be more exciting. There might even be strategy involved, not to mention a few hits thrown!
Your thoughts?
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Guest5744
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Posted - 01/25/2012 : 09:57:16
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| the ideas that i like are 4 on 4 and penalty shots for penalties... but penalties never get called in all star games |
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Posted - 01/25/2012 : 11:21:59
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Not a fan of the home ice for the finals idea . . . players deciding it are mostly not involved in the finals, so I find it unfair to whichever conference champ has the better record - something they busted their butt over all year. To have that decided in a meaningless game that is pretty far from what we'd call a competetive NHL game is . . . wrong.
But, I would like an effort to make it more competetive, sure. I like the idea of a purse or financial bonus for the players to egg on the competition. Heck, it might not mean much to players making the maximum, but to guys still in their rookie contracts, you bet they'd play hard for some extra coin!
Realistically though, not much more you can do, and why bother too much about it? It's for the fans to ooh and aah as they see all the stars . . . get autographs . . . and see the amazing skillsets on display. No one really wants to see a couple of serious injuries to top players in a game that means nothing to the standings.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
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Guest5744
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Posted - 01/25/2012 : 12:15:36
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| there is no way to make them competitve .... the winner takes home field that mlb uses is absolutely stupid. its a game for fun you watch one every 3 years and you're good. who is gonna watch this year? no ovy, or crosby? no shows like lidstrom and selanne.... injuries and omissions.... how would you feel if you were hartnell, neal, or eberle.... this game is lame and no one cares |
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