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canucks1187
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 Posted - 01/20/2012 : 11:07:24
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There have been some rumors flying around that the Columbus Blue-Jackets have given the okay to accept offers to trade Rick Nash.
"Word out of Columbus has it the Blue Jackets#8203; are maybe ready to blow things up and start over. Premier forwards Rick Nash#8203; and Jeff Carter#8203; could be on the move, and plenty of teams are interested."
I think it is about time that Nash moves on to a better team. His talents are wasted there and Columbus isn't getting any better anytime soon.
Any thoughts on where he should go if he were to be traded???
Me being a Canucks fan I would love to see him here.
Thoughts????
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Guest5744
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Posted - 01/20/2012 : 12:13:29
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| time to find out if rick nash has been over-rated or over-hyped for all these years. i thought his performance in the olympics was less than stellar. |
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Posted - 01/20/2012 : 12:17:19
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| columbus will not trade within the division you have to think... or even the conference for that matter. i could really see him being a ranger but i have no idea how much cap space they have.... maybe dubinksky, a young d-man, a first rounder and another pick for nash |
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Beans15
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Canada
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Posted - 01/20/2012 : 12:19:14
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Rick Nash is an over-rated player in my opinion. This does go against the same comments I have made to support Dany Heatley as not over-rated as both have been mainstays of just about every team Canada for the past decade.
However, what Nash can do internationally does not translate to the everyday NHL. Heatley has backed up his play in every situation. Nash is a legitimate 30 goal/60 pt player, nothing more. At least not to this point in his career. He is not an elite player as he is often touted by the media and fans.
For that reason, I don't see Nash moving. Frankly, I think he is overvalued and most teams would not give up what I think CBJ will be asking for. Carter has more value based purely on his age and the low annual value of his contract. However, the length of Carter's contract will hinder movement.
I don't think either player moves. |
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Alex116
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Posted - 01/20/2012 : 15:47:35
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Lol @ Beans. I read your first sentance and was about to jump all over you in regards to your constant defence of Heatley, only to see that you addressed that!
Similar players, but Heatley has put up better assist numbers over the years. Having said that, he's had much better linemates and teams in general too.
I get the feeling that Nash will in fact be traded. I think it's time that CBJ went in a new direction. I think they'll actually get a decent return on him as i'm sure a few teams will be after his services, but to some the return will not seem like enough. Those who feel it's not enough, are the ones who consider him "elite" and perhaps feel he's better than what he's actually put up numbers-wise. |
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ryan93
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
996 Posts |
Posted - 01/20/2012 : 17:37:15
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It has to be frustrating to be a Columbas fan these days. After an off-season in which the additions of Jeff Carter, James Wisniewski and Vinny Prospal had fans excited, the team has been a mess. Unfortunately for CBJ, so many of their highly touted, "can't miss" prospects just haven't panned out.
Outside of Rick Nash, not one of their 1st rounders (which are always in the top 10) have turned into star calibre players...
4th overall...Rostislav Klesla ('00)
4th overall...Nikolai Zherdev ('03)
4th overall...Ryan Johansson ('10), obviously too early to tell
6th overall...Gilbert Brule ('05)
6th overall...Derick Brassard ('06)
6th overall...Nikita Filatov ('08)
7th overall...Jakub Voracek ('07)
8th overall...Pascal Leclaire ('01)
8th overall...Alexandre Picard ('04)
And it goes beyond the 1st round. Out of all the 2nd round picks in CBJ history, the ones that have had the biggest NHL impact are Dan Fritsche, Adam McQuaid, and Tim Jackman. |
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ryan93
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 01/20/2012 : 17:40:40
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| As for whether or not Nash will be moved before the deadline. I'll say no, but I'd like to see him traded. I think an off-season/draft day deal is more likely. |
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Posted - 01/21/2012 : 06:34:49
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Originally posted by ryan93
It has to be frustrating to be a Columbas fan these days. After an off-season in which the additions of Jeff Carter, James Wisniewski and Vinny Prospal had fans excited, the team has been a mess. Unfortunately for CBJ, so many of their highly touted, "can't miss" prospects just haven't panned out.
Outside of Rick Nash, not one of their 1st rounders (which are always in the top 10) have turned into star calibre players...
4th overall...Rostislav Klesla ('00)
4th overall...Nikolai Zherdev ('03)
4th overall...Ryan Johansson ('10), obviously too early to tell
6th overall...Gilbert Brule ('05)
6th overall...Derick Brassard ('06)
6th overall...Nikita Filatov ('08)
7th overall...Jakub Voracek ('07)
8th overall...Pascal Leclaire ('01)
8th overall...Alexandre Picard ('04)
And it goes beyond the 1st round. Out of all the 2nd round picks in CBJ history, the ones that have had the biggest NHL impact are Dan Fritsche, Adam McQuaid, and Tim Jackman.
Holy crap, that is terrible drafting! Thanks for that breakdown, Ryan - do we really need any other explanation as to why Columbus has consistantly sucked for so long despite the constant flow of top 10 picks?
Yeah, I think Nash may be a BIT overrated, no doubt . . . but will someone be willing to overpay for him? , Of that, I also have no doubt. If he is available, he'll move.
Tougher to move Carter now almost actually . . . his injury issues with the foot are becoming chronic, and he certainly has the "risky" tag on him now. However, he's a solid player obviously, and we all know he that he hates Columbus . . . so I guess it's possible once he's off the IR (I think he's still injured).
Tell you the truth, for my Leafs, I'd take Carter, but only for cheap. Nash I wouldn't want, because I think it'd be too steep a price.
So yes, he's going to the Rangers! 
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Posted - 01/21/2012 : 07:04:51
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Originally posted by Beans15
Rick Nash is an over-rated player in my opinion. This does go against the same comments I have made to support Dany Heatley as not over-rated as both have been mainstays of just about every team Canada for the past decade.
However, what Nash can do internationally does not translate to the everyday NHL. Heatley has backed up his play in every situation. Nash is a legitimate 30 goal/60 pt player, nothing more. At least not to this point in his career. He is not an elite player as he is often touted by the media and fans.
For that reason, I don't see Nash moving. Frankly, I think he is overvalued and most teams would not give up what I think CBJ will be asking for. Carter has more value based purely on his age and the low annual value of his contract. However, the length of Carter's contract will hinder movement.
I don't think either player moves.
Nash is a top ten player in the league,.... |
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ryan93
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 01/21/2012 : 09:16:35
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Originally posted by slozo
[quote][i]Holy crap, that is terrible drafting! Thanks for that breakdown, Ryan - do we really need any other explanation as to why Columbus has consistantly sucked for so long despite the constant flow of top 10 picks?
Yeah, I think Nash may be a BIT overrated, no doubt . . . but will someone be willing to overpay for him? , Of that, I also have no doubt. If he is available, he'll move.
Tougher to move Carter now almost actually . . . his injury issues with the foot are becoming chronic, and he certainly has the "risky" tag on him now. However, he's a solid player obviously, and we all know he that he hates Columbus . . . so I guess it's possible once he's off the IR (I think he's still injured).
Tell you the truth, for my Leafs, I'd take Carter, but only for cheap. Nash I wouldn't want, because I think it'd be too steep a price.
So yes, he's going to the Rangers!
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
No to that! Well sure I'd like to have Nash in the line-up, but I too wouldn't want to see the Rangers give up the type of package it would likely require to land him. Plus he's still owed 3 more seasons after this one at a almost $8 million annual cap hit, the Rangers don't need another big number like that. |
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canucks1187
Top Prospect
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Posted - 01/21/2012 : 10:06:26
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I agree he may be a bit over-overrated but you have to take into fact that he as been stuck in Columbus his whole career. He has been a 30+ goal scorer since 2004 except the one year in 2006-2007 he had 27. But all things considering with the team he has had around him and the line mates he has had his career are not players that are going to make Nash better. He has been trapped there in Columbus and still he has been a top 15 player her in NHL. Scoring some of the nicest goals of all time. If you put him with JUST AND EXAMPLE relax people! The Sedin's he would be an all-star for sure. Even in NY he would be an all-star along side Richards. You have to give Nash some Credit, ya hes international performance has not been amazing but it has still been pretty damn good.
I would like to see him moved sooner then later so he can finally get out of Columbus who is never going to get better the way they are Drafting like you put Ryan!!!
Time for Nash to play with some legit players along side him
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Posted - 01/21/2012 : 11:36:15
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| I think Rick Nash is a great player and I'd love to see him land in Chicago, although that likely won't happen. Beans, you said that Carter would have more value than Nash because of his age? Carter was drafted in 2003 and Nash in 2002, so that's not much of a difference. To me, I agree with other posters, Nash is "trapped"in Columbus and needs to be playing with a team with more talented players. If that happens, I really think the guy could be a dominating force in the league. |
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Posted - 01/22/2012 : 13:45:27
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I think Nash is a great player who has been stuck in loser syndrome all of his playing career.
I`d have no problem ( as a leaf fan ) if they gave up Kadri and Schenn for Nash...of course M. Kom would have to be involved in the deal to create cap space, then Colu. would have to throw in a regular since the leafs would lose 3 regular players if you include Kadri as a regular leaf player.))
Nash would be a perfect fit for Toronto since their forwards are speedy but SMALL..the leafs desperately need size up front and Nash would be a great start...along with another gritty big forward.
To Columbus....
N. Kadri
L. Schenn
M. Kom
To Toronto
R. Nash
C. Gillies
plus optional draft picks ( swaps ) whatever
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The Duke
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 01/22/2012 : 13:47:13
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The Duke
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 01/22/2012 : 14:23:02
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Was going to mention ( maybe i shouldn`t since its finally a dead topic  )...
Ryan93...your posting of Columbus`s drafting ( and the gambling involved with it ) kinda defends Burkes reasoning when he made the kessel deal doesn`t it ??
Of course Burkes bubble burst when the leafs tanked and finished 29th overall..which wasn`t at all for - seeable for Burke at the time of the trade. The leafs finished regularly around 17th 19th for the previous few seasons....so one would assume status quoa for the forth - coming year.
If he were Merlin and knew Hall or Seguin were available to him...of course he would have not pulled the trigger...even as good as kessel is. |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 01/22/2012 : 21:05:30
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Originally posted by The Duke
If he were Merlin and knew Hall or Seguin were available to him...of course he would have not pulled the trigger...even as good as kessel is.
Duke, thank you for at least admitting that (above). Even Burke won't admit this much but it's pretty clear he wouldn't have made that deal if he knew they were gonna finish so low! |
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Go_Habs_Go
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Posted - 01/22/2012 : 23:05:55
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Rick Nash vs Scott Gomez !!!
"Bon point Jacques!" - Benoît Brunet |
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Posted - 01/23/2012 : 06:42:06
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Originally posted by ryan93
It has to be frustrating to be a Columbas fan these days. After an off-season in which the additions of Jeff Carter, James Wisniewski and Vinny Prospal had fans excited, the team has been a mess. Unfortunately for CBJ, so many of their highly touted, "can't miss" prospects just haven't panned out.
Outside of Rick Nash, not one of their 1st rounders (which are always in the top 10) have turned into star calibre players...
4th overall...Rostislav Klesla ('00)
4th overall...Nikolai Zherdev ('03)
4th overall...Ryan Johansson ('10), obviously too early to tell
6th overall...Gilbert Brule ('05)
6th overall...Derick Brassard ('06)
6th overall...Nikita Filatov ('08)
7th overall...Jakub Voracek ('07)
8th overall...Pascal Leclaire ('01)
8th overall...Alexandre Picard ('04)
And it goes beyond the 1st round. Out of all the 2nd round picks in CBJ history, the ones that have had the biggest NHL impact are Dan Fritsche, Adam McQuaid, and Tim Jackman.
03 especially hurts, you take Zheredev and leave Vanek, Ryan Suter, Getzlaf, Perry, Parise, and Brent Seabrook out there. Makes you wonder how Doug McClean can be an "expert" on sportsnet. |
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Sensfan101
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
500 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2012 : 09:22:03
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Originally posted by ryan93
It has to be frustrating to be a Columbas fan these days. After an off-season in which the additions of Jeff Carter, James Wisniewski and Vinny Prospal had fans excited, the team has been a mess. Unfortunately for CBJ, so many of their highly touted, "can't miss" prospects just haven't panned out.
Outside of Rick Nash, not one of their 1st rounders (which are always in the top 10) have turned into star calibre players...
4th overall...Rostislav Klesla ('00)
4th overall...Nikolai Zherdev ('03)
4th overall...Ryan Johansson ('10), obviously too early to tell
6th overall...Gilbert Brule ('05)
6th overall...Derick Brassard ('06)
6th overall...Nikita Filatov ('08)
7th overall...Jakub Voracek ('07)
8th overall...Pascal Leclaire ('01)
8th overall...Alexandre Picard ('04)
And it goes beyond the 1st round. Out of all the 2nd round picks in CBJ history, the ones that have had the biggest NHL impact are Dan Fritsche, Adam McQuaid, and Tim Jackman.
I know hindsight is a great thing but what if instead of those guys Columbus had drafted:
Scott Hartnell
Thomas Vanek
Anze Kopitar
Kyle Okposo
Erik Karlsson
Logan Couture
Dan Hamhuis
Mike Green
You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
8286 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2012 : 11:00:52
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I call bollocks on this Nash has never played with talent crap. There are a pile of players in the NHL today who have't had stellar line-mates and they produce numbers. How about Jarome Iginla? With the exception of the odd year with Tanguay or Cammallarri, he has played with pylons. Mike Modano carried guys on his back his entire career. Paul Kariya and Teemu Selanne did not have quality line mate for their entire careers either.
Look, Nash is a good player. He is 1st line quality and is a legitimate 65+ pt guy. With a better line mate he goes up to 75 or maybe 80 on the outside. But let's face it, most everyone views this guy as an elite player in the NHL. He's not. He's a step below elite and that makes him over rated.
Just to prove a point, this is to the guest who posted that Rick Nash is a top 10 in the NHL talent:
Crosby, Malkin, Giroux, Gaborik, H. Sedin, D. Sedin, Hossa, Toews, Kane, Stamkos, St. Louis, Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Kopitar, Seguin, Vanek, Kovalchuk, Sharp, Iginla, Parise, Perry, Ovechkin, Getzlaf, Ryan, Thornton, Marleau, Heatley, Brad Richards, Mike Ricards.
Ok, I am bored now. There is 30 players that are better than Nash today and anyone who has a similar tenure as Nash have been better in most seasons.
Nash is not a top 10 in the NHL talent. Not even close. Top 50 I would agree with. |
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Go_Habs_Go
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Posted - 01/23/2012 : 11:46:09
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And his salary is way over-rated as well. We are 15 in are pool : 12 forwards, 6 defensemen, and 2 goalies, with a salary cap of 64 million...and it is a long time pool with keepers (which means that sean couturier was picked) and Rick Nash isnt in anyone's pool, and no one has picked him up, no regrets. All that to say that on 180 forwards, Rick Nash isnt in.
So considering him a top 50 is generous i think
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 01/23/2012 : 12:27:44
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Originally posted by Go_Habs_Go
And his salary is way over-rated as well. We are 15 in are pool : 12 forwards, 6 defensemen, and 2 goalies, with a salary cap of 64 million...and it is a long time pool with keepers (which means that sean couturier was picked) and Rick Nash isnt in anyone's pool, and no one has picked him up, no regrets. All that to say that on 180 forwards, Rick Nash isnt in.
So considering him a top 50 is generous i think
"Bon point Jacques!" - Benoît Brunet
This is not all that surprising for one obvious reason, his cap hit! It's safe to say, he's earning too much for the number of points he puts up. Otherwise, he'd have been a top 25-30 player picked at the outset of the season in most pts only pools. It appears as though he's being paid for more than just points as well as possibly a few extra dollars kicked in to keep him happy and serve as a bonus for the years of service he's given that rather unsuccessful franchise! |
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Leafs81
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 01/24/2012 : 05:55:02
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Originally posted by Beans15
I call bollocks on this Nash has never played with talent crap. There are a pile of players in the NHL today who have't had stellar line-mates and they produce numbers. How about Jarome Iginla? With the exception of the odd year with Tanguay or Cammallarri, he has played with pylons. Mike Modano carried guys on his back his entire career. Paul Kariya and Teemu Selanne did not have quality line mate for their entire careers either.
Look, Nash is a good player. He is 1st line quality and is a legitimate 65+ pt guy. With a better line mate he goes up to 75 or maybe 80 on the outside. But let's face it, most everyone views this guy as an elite player in the NHL. He's not. He's a step below elite and that makes him over rated.
Just to prove a point, this is to the guest who posted that Rick Nash is a top 10 in the NHL talent:
Crosby, Malkin, Giroux, Gaborik, H. Sedin, D. Sedin, Hossa, Toews, Kane, Stamkos, St. Louis, Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Kopitar, Seguin, Vanek, Kovalchuk, Sharp, Iginla, Parise, Perry, Ovechkin, Getzlaf, Ryan, Thornton, Marleau, Heatley, Brad Richards, Mike Ricards.
Ok, I am bored now. There is 30 players that are better than Nash today and anyone who has a similar tenure as Nash have been better in most seasons.
Nash is not a top 10 in the NHL talent. Not even close. Top 50 I would agree with.
Your list is objective because there's players on that list that IMO are not as good as Rick Nash, and there's players that you omitted that IMO are better then Nash. If Bobby Ryan is better then Rick Nash then the list could go way longer. I agree he is not top 10 but he's close to top 30 because of the points I mentioned above.
Not that elite debate again 
Paul Kariya and Teemu Selanne had each other. We never said Rick Nash was better then Iginla or Modano. Rick Nash never played with a legit first line and he still scores regularly, so yes I think that Rick Nash playing with Columbus affects his playing ability. |
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Posted - 01/24/2012 : 11:09:03
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To the posters contending that Rick Nash is trapped in Columbus and hasn't really played with true quality linemates:
Please don't automatically think that Rick Nash being moved to a club with first class linemates in a more traditional hockey market will suddenly be some great stats boost.
See: Ilya Kovalchuk.
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topcornermax
Top Prospect
Canada
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Posted - 01/24/2012 : 12:17:49
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| I honestly don't think you could ever call rick nash over rated! He didnt have the greatest team canada performance but was will in the top of tournament.. and have you ever watched this guy at an all-star game? He is extremely skilled |
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The Duke
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 01/24/2012 : 12:32:03
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Slozo... Parise has been out for a whole lot of Ilya Koval`s. tenure in New Jersey. Maybe Koval. can be evaluated more in the sense you refer to after playing a full season with a healthy Parise.
Leafs81...i agree with you that some of the players on Beans list are subject to debate as to being better than Nash. I would certainly take Nash over some of the players listed.
Its not all about points. Some players bring more then stats when the playoffs roll around...Gary Roberts, Wendall Clark, Claude Lemieux are just three who come to mind.
I`d like to see what Nash would do on a serious cup contending team on a playoff run. With his size and skill and a real opportunity to win...i think he would turn some heads. |
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The Duke
PickupHockey Veteran
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Posted - 01/24/2012 : 12:43:10
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Beans...Gaborik, Hossa, Vanek, Marleau, Heatley...over Nash ??
Are you serious ?
What have they done ? Have any of these guys ( other than Hossa on a star studded Blackhawks team ) won a cup ?
Personally i would take Nash over any of the above players i have listed. I would also take Nash over Kane, Kopitar, Sharp, and either pu$$y Sedin...i don`t care how many REGULAR SEASON points the Sedins get..
I just don`t like players who scurry to their bench like school girls when the playoff grind gets rough...eg..Sedins |
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nuxfan
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Posted - 01/24/2012 : 14:00:11
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Originally posted by The Duke
Beans...Gaborik, Hossa, Vanek, Marleau, Heatley...over Nash ??
Are you serious ?
What have they done ? Have any of these guys ( other than Hossa on a star studded Blackhawks team ) won a cup ?
Personally i would take Nash over any of the above players i have listed. I would also take Nash over Kane, Kopitar, Sharp, and either pu$$y Sedin...i don`t care how many REGULAR SEASON points the Sedins get..
I just don`t like players who scurry to their bench like school girls when the playoff grind gets rough...eg..Sedins
Yeah...if only we knew what Nash did in a playoff grind, unfortunately, he's only had 4 games there so far in his 7 year career.
I too would take most of Bean's list over Nash (probably not current Heatley, perhaps some others). The fact is, many of those players have succeeded in elevating the rest of their teams, or have produced significantly despite being surrounded by less-than-stellar casts. Nash has done neither, and it's what separates them.
I think Nash's days in CBJ are numbered - perhaps not at trade deadline time, maybe in the summer. The Nash situation in CBJ reminds me of the Thornton/BOS situation in 2005 - both players are team cornerstones that the team is having a hard time building around. Back then, BOS decided to trade Thornton as they didn't think they could win with him, a huge shock to the hockey world at the time - everyone wondered what was up with that, he's the cornerstone of the team, what the team was being built around. Yet here we are 5 years later, BOS has a cup and one of the best teams in hockey, and now SJ is the perennial bridesmaid to the finals. Losing Thornton allowed BOS to rethink the entire team makeup with a new cornerstone - some good moves, some good drafts, and voila.
I think CBJ might come to the same realization with Nash. |
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Beans15
Moderator
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Posted - 01/24/2012 : 18:04:59
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This is what I call complete and utter delusion. Seriously, this is a situation where the media has hyped this guy up so much and people view him as a good ol' Canadian boy so they don't see the forest for the trees.
I think if people actually looked at things objectively for a second they would see that there are players out there with very similar tenures that have done more, done better at their peaks, and most importantly bring more to the table than Nash. Nash is a prototypical power forward. He’s big, scores goals, and uses his physicality to create space for himself on the ice. Nash is NOT a responsible defensive player, NOT a great passer, and obviously NOT the kind of player that can carry or lead a team anywhere. There are many if not all of the players that I listed that are either better offensive or similar offensive but better defensive than Nash.
Nash is NOT a top 10 talent in the NHL today. Even if one wanted to say that my list was a little deep, I don't think anyone could argue that Nash would be put ahead of at least 20 of the players I listed.
Top 10 is completely absurd.
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Alex116
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Posted - 01/24/2012 : 18:53:16
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[quote]Originally posted by Beans15
Crosby, Malkin, Giroux, Gaborik, H. Sedin, D. Sedin, Hossa, Toews, Kane, Stamkos, St. Louis, Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Kopitar, Seguin, Vanek, Kovalchuk, Sharp, Iginla, Parise, Perry, Ovechkin, Getzlaf, Ryan, Thornton, Marleau, Heatley, Brad Richards, Mike Ricards.
Nash is def not a top 10 "overall" / "all around" player. No way! But he's def a top 10 at this position (if you call "power forward" a position i guess?).
It's far too difficult to compare Nash to a guy like Mike Richards. Richards is a Selke contender year in year out (lately) but imo, Nash would have put up more goals and assists if he found himself in Richards position (with the Flyers for the past few years). Richards hasn't exactly lit it up in LA thus far so maybe his linemates in Philly had more to do with his offensive success than some thought?
I'd prob take my chances with Nash over Bobby Ryan. I've yet to see Ryan do a whole lot without playing with Perry, Getzlaf or both! We all remember the success Dustin Penner had playing with those guys, right? And how's he doing now???
Sharp is an interesting one. I love his game. But he's also benefitted from playing with a pretty nice team in Chicago. If he's not with Kane, he's with Toews. Or Hossa, along with some nice offensive dmen too! Also, keep in mind, his career high 71, less than a point per game in all seasons.
A guy like Heatley? In his prime, no doubt i take Heater. But if it were now, i'd go with Nash for a cup run.
Again, this is just a few, and i don't consider Nash top 10, but i'd sure love to see him in a differnent environment, just to see if it makes a big difference to his game?
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The Duke
PickupHockey Veteran
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Posted - 01/25/2012 : 09:24:58
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Beans, other than team Canada performances...
I doubt if i`ve seen Nash play 5 hockey games in my entire life...who watches Columbus ?? really.
All i do know is, when i`ve seen him play...he can flat out play...
He has amazing abitily and agility for his size, he moves like a 180 pound player.
Rick Nash has natural gifts which can`t be given to most players. Your height is your height, a player can`t be stretched.
Boy would i like to see him in a crazy hot bed of hockey like Toronto...with 20,000 screaming fans making ear deafening chants echoing through the building...think he would elevate his game somewhat compared to YAWNNNNN...Columbus ?? |
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Originally posted by topcornermax
I honestly don't think you could ever call rick nash over rated! He didnt have the greatest team canada performance but was will in the top of tournament.. and have you ever watched this guy at an all-star game? He is extremely skilled
skill only takes you so far... have you ever seen rob schremp he has unbelievable skill and is absolutely brutal in games. |
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Rick Nash moved before the trade deadline???? 
