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andyhack
PickupHockey Pro
Japan
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 Posted - 04/29/2007 : 18:48:05
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Originally posted by Mikhailova
Oh and andyhack, the no kicking rule is there because this is hockey, not soccer. If you were allowed to kick the puck in to score, players would do it a lot more because it's easier, and it kind of defeats the purpose of the game...you're supposed to SHOOT. If kicking was allowed and it was easy, everyone would start doing it and there'd be no need for sticks. I dunno, it just seems dumb to say you're allowed to score with your feet.
Mik - I just think that given that the puck is at the same level as the players feet, it is natural that sometimes the puck may bounce off those feet. It is often difficult to determine what is a "distinct kicking motion" and what isn't. Today the guy was going to the net and I think that even if the puck wouldn't have come as it did, his feet would still have basically gone in the same direction and manner. Maybe I am wrong but, if I am, I really don't think it's such a tragedy to the fundamentals and traditions of hockey to allow that goal today, or even to allow one where the player actually does clearly purposely kick the puck into the net. As I say, the puck is at their feet so there is in fact some similarity to soccer. There is a huge distinction you can make between kicking the puck with your foot and, for example, somehow forwarding or tossing the the puck with your hand. There, I could better understand the need to protect the fundamentals and traditions of hockey.
Anyway, I really don't think players would kick that much even if the rule were removed as a purposeful kick is often harder than using the stick (though, admittedly, there would be the odd case of it when a guys stick would be tied up in front of the net). But to me that's okay - it would become another skill to teach your players.
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bablaboushka
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2417 Posts |
Posted - 04/29/2007 : 20:17:46
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Originally posted by I HATE CROSBY
This is mildly off topic, but I just have to say the people at MSG are great fans......That place was rocking every minute. I don't see many Ranger games so I had no clue it got that crazy....I mean, this crowd is WAY rowdier than any Canadian crowd.....Like in Vancouver they wave their towels at the beginning , think they're hardcore, then go to bed for the game. I love the Leafs, but the ACC is quiet too....
I know hockey isn't the biggest sport in New York, but the hockey fans there deserve some serious props. Their emotion made the game really entertaining, and got me right into it.
Did you hear booing when Malik touched the puck at the start of the game? I did. Man, that just goes to show how seriously they take the game... If you mess up they'll let you hear it. |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 05/01/2007 : 20:01:39
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Ok so tell me did you think that wrap around attempt by Danny Briere is a goal?
Being a Sabres fan and all I have to say that was a goal But even my dad who is a Rangers fan though it was a goal, the puck clearly crossed the line. They waved it off because it was inconclusive. Witch makes sense but if they were just logical they would have called it in because the puck was clearly in. So now Buffalo will go back home and are gonna put up a better effort than that and Buffalo has got to limit there turnovers. |
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willus3
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 05/01/2007 : 20:22:43
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I would have called it a goal. Looked over the line to me.
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 05/01/2007 : 20:26:57
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| Maybe the ref didn't call it because he didn't want to get mugged by the Rangers fans. |
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semin-rules
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 05/02/2007 : 05:19:09
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The biggest issue was that they couldn't see it cross. The edge of the goalies pad was dark, so they couldn't tell if it went in or not. I would have said a goal but I guess it's not up to me.
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manninm
PickupHockey Pro
USA
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Posted - 05/02/2007 : 05:28:56
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Ya, I think it crossed the goalline, however, no conclusive evidence means they made the right call. But hopefully this will be a wakeup call for the sabes. If they play a full 60 minutes like they played the last 8, they won't lose another game.
Because the demands on a goalie are mostly mental, it means that for a goalie, the biggest enemy is himself." ~Ken Dryden |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2007 : 16:28:14
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Originally posted by manninm
Ya, I think it crossed the goalline, however, no conclusive evidence means they made the right call. But hopefully this will be a wakeup call for the sabes. If they play a full 60 minutes like they played the last 8, they won't lose another game.
Because the demands on a goalie are mostly mental, it means that for a goalie, the biggest enemy is himself." ~Ken Dryden
That's exactly right. The Sabres have got to start playing a full game for the last 10 minutes or so they were dominating the game. I read that Ruff worked really hard on special teams yesterdays pratice and todays. |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
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Posted - 05/03/2007 : 18:05:08
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| No sweat PainTrain. We'll back in Buffalo tomorrow night with decent ice and Sabres fans. We're gonna win! |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2007 : 19:54:14
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Originally posted by Mikhailova
No sweat PainTrain. We'll back in Buffalo tomorrow night with decent ice and Sabres fans. We're gonna win!
Don't worry Mik I have confidence in my Sabres. They definitely have the better team, they just need to play to there potential.
GO SABRES GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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