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sahis34
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
591 Posts |
Posted - 04/08/2012 : 09:12:51
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Poll Question:
What will happen in this series?
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ToXXiK1
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
696 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2012 : 05:03:30
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Best opening series to watch!! |
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mandree888
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
400 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2012 : 06:52:09
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this is the toughet one in the ast. but i think the flyers will take it in 5 or 6.
on a side note. how funny would it be for LA to come out of no where and face philly in the finals. |
Edited by - mandree888 on 04/09/2012 08:35:07 |
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foolpittier
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
374 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2012 : 10:10:03
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7 game war, jagr with the winner |
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sahis34
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
591 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2012 : 12:42:39
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This should be fun |
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Leafs81
PickupHockey Pro
735 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2012 : 15:56:47
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This will be the best series. And I think these are the two best teams in the east. Pittsburgh will win in 6. |
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Lunchbox
Top Prospect
Canada
88 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2012 : 17:51:38
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Honestly, I could care less who wins this...it just makes me angry at the seeding process in the NHL... While this should be the best first round series, it should be a conference final (or at least a semi-final)
If I had to call it, I'd say Pittsburgh. Philly will drive themselves nuts trying to get Crosby off his game, but the kid will shrug it off. Penalty troubles will be Philly's downfall here, I think. |
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ryan93
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
996 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2012 : 07:43:59
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I went with the Pens in 6. Providing they stay healthy, namely Crosby & Letang, then i think the Penguins should be able to advance. Both are very strong clubs though capable of winning the East.
Ilya Bryzgalov scares me a bit in the Flyers net. I think he'll have his hands full trying to stop Crosby, Malkin, Neal, Letang, Staal, Kunitz, Sullivan etc. He's shown in the past that he can be rattled, but has also shown he's capable of being one of the best in the world too. He's played much better since the all-star break, but i'd still be a little nervous heading into this series if i was a Flyers fan. Then again, the guy is afraid of nothing short of a bear in the woods, so he should be fine |
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Lee Marshall
Rookie
Canada
102 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2012 : 08:15:53
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Pens in 5. Philly will steal one but they'll spend so much time in the penalty box that they really won't have a chance. [not that they have one at even strength either.]
Who the cap fits...Let them wear it. |
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Posted - 04/10/2012 : 08:28:10
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I'm going with Pens in 6.
I have a feeling that Bryzgalov won't steal any games for Philly, which they would absolutely need to have happen to have a chance at winning against the Pens. I think you can throw out the regular season series and stats here . . . it's an awesome Pens lineup, with an awesome powerplay, and two huge gamebreakers, plus Letang, Neal and the experienced Fleury in net. Might even be 5.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
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Guest4623
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Posted - 04/10/2012 : 10:32:01
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After this series Who cares about the rest of the Playoff's this is the best series possible... pens in 6 ....... |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
8286 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2012 : 19:36:53
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Did anyone else notice that both game tying and game winning goals has Jordan Staal staring blankly at the player who he should have been covering aftewr they score the goal?
It may not have been Bryzgalov who stole the game but after being down by three and coming back to win that was definitely a stolen game in Pittsburgh.
Daniel Alfredsson is the MVP of the universe. All hail the Ottawa Senators!!!!! |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
6113 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2012 : 20:02:45
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Beans, i saw that on the winner but the tying goal was a beautiful tip by Schenn no? Not sure a dman could have done much and if it was Staal, i did see another stick in there that just missed the puck i think? Either way, he looked bad on the winner for sure! |
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spade632
Rookie
Canada
247 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2012 : 21:29:20
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I think Pens in 6 or 7.
As has been said, it's going to be a WAR.
Pens can't feel good about blowing a 3-0 lead though. |
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semin-rules
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1915 Posts |
Posted - 04/12/2012 : 09:21:04
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That missed offside on Briere that resulted in the Flyers first goal was pretty brutal. it was about 3 feet and the refs should have seen that. Down from 3-0 and winning 4-3 is all about heart. The Pens looked like they gave up in the 2nd and Philly kept persisting and they deserved it.
The Flyers are the definition of comeback kids.
Did anyone see the bear fans? what a good shot at Ilya, I thought that was hilarious |
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Guest8875
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Posted - 04/12/2012 : 14:26:20
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Everybody seems to be talking about Brierre's Offside goal and how the ref should have called offsides. What about the ref that didn't call Icing which led to a Pits goal? You can't complain about one without the other. Good job ref(s). Welcome to the Playoffs!! |
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JOSHUACANADA
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2308 Posts |
Posted - 04/12/2012 : 15:17:25
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quote: Originally posted by Leafs81
This will be the best series. And I think these are the two best teams in the east. Pittsburgh will win in 6.
I think Boston/Rangers will have something to say about these being the best 2 teams in the east. From my perspective a 4th and 5th finish was not far off from reality in the east. Course I hope the Rangers faulter and Boston stumbles on the Capitals. Makes round 2 a little easier if my team makes it to the 2nd round. |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
6113 Posts |
Posted - 04/12/2012 : 15:23:34
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quote: Originally posted by Guest8875
Everybody seems to be talking about Brierre's Offside goal and how the ref should have called offsides. What about the ref that didn't call Icing which led to a Pits goal? You can't complain about one without the other. Good job ref(s). Welcome to the Playoffs!!
Hard for me to comment on the icing call as i didn't see it, but to say "good job ref(s)" in a game that had one ridiculously bad call and another which you claim is similar is just plain ignorant! What amazes me is how consistent the linesmen are on offsides and the ones i think they blew i often rewind and watch in slow-mo. 95% of the time, or more, they nailed it! I'm shocked at how much this one was missed by. I'm not saying there's any conspiracy theory or anything, just that it was as blatantly obvious as it pretty much could have been, and he missed it!
POOR JOB REF(S).... |
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Guest8875
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Posted - 04/12/2012 : 15:35:36
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quote: Originally posted by Alex116
quote: Originally posted by Guest8875
Everybody seems to be talking about Brierre's Offside goal and how the ref should have called offsides. What about the ref that didn't call Icing which led to a Pits goal? You can't complain about one without the other. Good job ref(s). Welcome to the Playoffs!!
Hard for me to comment on the icing call as i didn't see it, but to say "good job ref(s)" in a game that had one ridiculously bad call and another which you claim is similar is just plain ignorant! What amazes me is how consistent the linesmen are on offsides and the ones i think they blew i often rewind and watch in slow-mo. 95% of the time, or more, they nailed it! I'm shocked at how much this one was missed by. I'm not saying there's any conspiracy theory or anything, just that it was as blatantly obvious as it pretty much could have been, and he missed it!
POOR JOB REF(S)....
My 'Good Job Ref(s)' comment was purely sarcastic. Making you the ignorant one and to no surprise you are a Nuck's fan. LOL!! Figured you would be able to tell with my complaining beforehand and my stating `welcome to the playoffs` as this sort of thing always happens at this time of year. |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
6113 Posts |
Posted - 04/12/2012 : 16:40:13
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8875, my apologies, but your comments didn't read that way to me. Must be because i'm a Canucks fan.
Your first couple lines read more to me as a guy saying that there were bad calls both ways and therefore suck it up or don't complain about one and not the other. Therefore, it seemed to me that you were actually saying that the refs had done a good job in being consistent, in this case, consistently bad.
Again, my apologies for calling your comment ignorant as i misread it. |
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Guest6511
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Posted - 04/12/2012 : 23:55:23
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Lol i just want everyone to know how silly the commissionaire of the NHL is. First of all, He fines the head coach of the Rangers 20 grand for stating a truth (about how the Pittsburgh is such a Winny organization and the NHL baby's there stars), Frankly he is maby hypercritical somtimes but he was very true about what he said. Then the NHL (commissionaire im sure) goes and fines Shea Weber $2.500 for a head shot. I mean come on, dont you think a head shot is way worse then bad mouthing another team. Tortareall is right they do favour the pens and there babbies. GO FLYERS GO !!!!! THE NHL IS TURNING INTO THE BETTMAN SHOW, how do you fine someone 20 grand for talking trash (the truth really) and then fine someone only 2.500 for giving a head shot the could of permanently injured someone. The NHL wonders why theres more dirty shots giving. There you go! |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
6113 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2012 : 00:58:45
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quote: Originally posted by Guest6511
Lol i just want everyone to know how silly the commissionaire of the NHL is. First of all, He fines the head coach of the Rangers 20 grand for stating a truth (about how the Pittsburgh is such a Winny organization and the NHL baby's there stars), Frankly he is maby hypercritical somtimes but he was very true about what he said. Then the NHL (commissionaire im sure) goes and fines Shea Weber $2.500 for a head shot. I mean come on, dont you think a head shot is way worse then bad mouthing another team. Tortareall is right they do favour the pens and there babbies. GO FLYERS GO !!!!! THE NHL IS TURNING INTO THE BETTMAN SHOW, how do you fine someone 20 grand for talking trash (the truth really) and then fine someone only 2.500 for giving a head shot the could of permanently injured someone. The NHL wonders why theres more dirty shots giving. There you go!
Wow, i did my best to be as polite as possible when i read this same crap in another thread, but sorry, i can't do it again. Learn some freakin' english skills dude!!!
I actually started to list the spelling mistakes and poor grammar, but my computer froze. I think it couldn't believe how poor the actual post was so it wouldn't let me repeat the sadness!
Seriously, i'm not the grammar police on a normal day, but this is an absolute butchering of the english language!!!
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Guest0985
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Posted - 04/13/2012 : 04:03:33
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quote: Originally posted by Alex116
quote: Originally posted by Guest6511
Lol i just want everyone to know how silly the commissionaire of the NHL is. First of all, He fines the head coach of the Rangers 20 grand for stating a truth (about how the Pittsburgh is such a Winny organization and the NHL baby's there stars), Frankly he is maby hypercritical somtimes but he was very true about what he said. Then the NHL (commissionaire im sure) goes and fines Shea Weber $2.500 for a head shot. I mean come on, dont you think a head shot is way worse then bad mouthing another team. Tortareall is right they do favour the pens and there babbies. GO FLYERS GO !!!!! THE NHL IS TURNING INTO THE BETTMAN SHOW, how do you fine someone 20 grand for talking trash (the truth really) and then fine someone only 2.500 for giving a head shot the could of permanently injured someone. The NHL wonders why theres more dirty shots giving. There you go!
Wow, i did my best to be as polite as possible when i read this same crap in another thread, but sorry, i can't do it again. Learn some freakin' english skills dude!!!
I actually started to list the spelling mistakes and poor grammar, but my computer froze. I think it couldn't believe how poor the actual post was so it wouldn't let me repeat the sadness!
Seriously, i'm not the grammar police on a normal day, but this is an absolute butchering of the english language!!!
Also, seriously, who spells maybe like 'maby' that is just brutal. Honestly, like what are you 8 yrs old? |
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Guest6511
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Posted - 04/13/2012 : 14:47:15
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Im pretty sure i know im not the best speller in the world. But stop trying to turn its around to my spelling. lol crosby fan |
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spade632
Rookie
Canada
247 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2012 : 21:29:38
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It's too bad I missed the game tonight (had other plans and no TV anywhere nearby). From the highlights it was a doozy. 8-5 Philly win.
The Pens are in trouble going to Philly for Game 3. |
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Clatts
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
266 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2012 : 21:32:04
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It was a awesome game, back and forth lots of scoring and Neal was inches away from getting the tie before Coutuirie netted a hatty
"Most of the guys that wear them are Europeans and French Guys." Don Cherry on Visors |
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Guest8875
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Posted - 04/13/2012 : 22:08:55
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quote: Originally posted by Alex116
8875, my apologies, but your comments didn't read that way to me. Must be because i'm a Canucks fan.
Your first couple lines read more to me as a guy saying that there were bad calls both ways and therefore suck it up or don't complain about one and not the other. Therefore, it seemed to me that you were actually saying that the refs had done a good job in being consistent, in this case, consistently bad.
Again, my apologies for calling your comment ignorant as i misread it.
All good Alex, I stated 'can't complain about one without the other' because people were only complaining about the offsides and not the icing. It's obvious these people are either Pitsburgh fan's or they picked Pitsburgh players in hockey draft(s). And with my 'good job ref's' I was simply making fun of the ref's for not being consistent. As for me consistent would be making good/fair calls for the whole game. Furtunately it was a fault resulting in goals by both teams. However if the icing had been called it would of probaly been 2-0 after the first instead of 3-0 and Philly would not have scored their first because of the obvious offsides. Question is if the two plays were called would the outcome be the same? |
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Lee Marshall
Rookie
Canada
102 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2012 : 06:03:51
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Gotta admit I'm shocked. Pens have all but forgotten about playing defence. And in their enthusiasm to score...they're overplaying themselves out of good positioning way too often.
The Flyers are taking full advanatage of these mistakes...even on the Pitt powerplays.
If things don't turn around in a blinkin' hurry I'll lose 7 of my 12 guys in the playoff pool in the first round...ALL Pens.
On the other hand...if a miracle happens and they do get back into the swing o' things.........
Who the cap fits...Let them wear it. |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
8286 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2012 : 07:33:56
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I am shocked at all. I bet on Pitt and I figured they would win this series, but it was always going to be a dog fight.
Philly play Pitt 6 times in the regular seasons and won 4 of those games (including 2 of 3 with Crosby in the line-up). Take a look at the scoring line of those 6 games:
Dec 8 - Pitt 2 - Phi 3 (in Phi) Dec 29 - Pitt 2 - Phi 4 (in Pitt) Feb 18 - Pitt 6 - Phi 4 (in Phi) Mar 18 - Pitt 2 - Phi 3 (OT)(in Phi) Apr 1 - Pitt 4 - Phi 6 (in Pitt) Apr 7 - Pitt 4 - Phi 2 (in Pitt)
So in their 6 regular season games, twice the teams combined for 10 goals and one team scored 4 or more goals 6 times.
The scoring line from last game was a little high but not crazy considering these teams recent past. What is shocking is I expected thie series to be tied right now.
Daniel Alfredsson is the MVP of the universe. All hail the Ottawa Senators!!!!! |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
6113 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2012 : 09:15:16
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I've not caught a lot of this series due to the early start but someone please tell me this. What is up with MA Fleury? Everytime there's a goalie discussion i hear so much about how underrated this guy is, how he's the next Team Canada goalie, how he has a cup ring, etc, etc. Is he playing poorly right now? What's the attitude like in Pittsburgh? Cuz i know what happens in Vancouver to a goalie who gives up 8 goals in a game and 12 over 2, especially 4 straight with a 3-0 lead in game 1. Poor ol' Luongo would have been publicly lynched by now! |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
8286 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2012 : 10:29:02
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Alex, I have watched the better part of both games and I can't say that either goalie has been incredibly good or incredibly bad. Like Vancouver, Pitt has had 2 SH goals which were both breakaways (if I recall). In game one, I don't think Fluery had a chance on either the Shenn goal or the Voracek goal as he was hung out to dry in both cases.
I don't think Fleury has been outstanding in any stretch of the word. 12 goals against in 2 games is gross. But how many were his fault?? Not many.
I don't know how many people use the NHL.com video highlights but here is a link to the goals scored in the Pitt/Phi games. Take a look and see for youself if any or many of these goals can be pinned on Fleury.
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?hlg=20112012,3,142&lang=en
Daniel Alfredsson is the MVP of the universe. All hail the Ottawa Senators!!!!! |
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Clatts
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
266 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2012 : 13:03:31
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Not Fluery's fault, he hasn't been great by any stretch but the Penns defence has had more holes in it then swiss cheese.
Both games in the series have been extremely close, Neal was inches away from tying the game before couturie got his 3rd goal
"Most of the guys that wear them are Europeans and French Guys." Don Cherry on Visors |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
6113 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2012 : 16:59:00
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I was actually interested in Fleury's play, so thanks for your opinions, but i was more trying to make a point of just how tough it must be to be a goalie around here! Fleury gets the "not many he could be faulted on, a couple were shorthanded breakaways, he hasn't been that bad, he was hung out to dry on a few", etc, etc.
Luongo on the other hand, would be chastised for giving up 12 goals, heck, even if the Canucks had won both games! You'd hear "no matter how bad the team played around him, he HAS TO find a way to make a save to turn the game around for his team". (or something along those lines).
I wonder if Vancouver is simply getting the "goalie graveyard" thing again? I will be extremely interested to see what they do as far as their goalies moving forward, but if they keep Schneider and deal Luongo, it'll be very interesting to see just how much patience the fickle fans around here have after he plays a bad game or two? I really get the feeling that Luongo's personality is responsible for much of the hatred he recieves. |
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Clatts
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
266 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2012 : 17:18:43
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If Luongo moves on the first bad stretch Schinder has Vancouver fans will be yelling "Why would they trade Luongo!!!"
"Most of the guys that wear them are Europeans and French Guys." Don Cherry on Visors |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
8286 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2012 : 17:54:22
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I think Luongo has been great. He and Fluery are both encountering a similar situation (throw Bryzgalov's name in as well) in that the team in front if them is doing very little to help.
Luongo is the easy scapegoat but not the correct one in this case.
Daniel Alfredsson is the MVP of the universe. All hail the Ottawa Senators!!!!! |
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Guest4382
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Posted - 04/14/2012 : 17:56:36
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quote: Originally posted by Guest6511
Im pretty sure i know im not the best speller in the world. But stop trying to turn its around to my spelling. lol crosby fan
You wouldn't be saying that if he was on your team |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
6113 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2012 : 01:15:41
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quote: Originally posted by Guest4382
quote: Originally posted by Guest6511
Im pretty sure i know im not the best speller in the world. But stop trying to turn its around to my spelling. lol crosby fan
You wouldn't be saying that if he was on your team
You sure you quoted the right post? |
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irvine
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1315 Posts |
Posted - 04/16/2012 : 10:24:22
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Had I answered this question before the series began, I'd have said Flyers in 7.
Now, I'd have to say Flyers in 5.
I do see the Pens winning the next game. They are fired up. And, I believe Sid will take things in to his own hands. He has the skill, if he can Malkin, Neal, Staal & Letang all feeling the same, to win it.
Irvine/prez. |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
6113 Posts |
Posted - 04/16/2012 : 10:26:38
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quote: Originally posted by irvine
Had I answered this question before the series began, I'd have said Flyers in 7.
Now, I'd have to say Flyers in 5.
I do see the Pens winning the next game. They are fired up. And, I believe Sid will take things in to his own hands. He has the skill, if he can Malkin, Neal, Staal & Letang all feeling the same, to win it.
Irvine/prez.
I'm not so sure Neal will be a part of any game 4. Then again, who knows with Shanny? |
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