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Alex116
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 Posted - 04/13/2012 : 16:29:40
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Originally posted by slozo
Obvious to mention, but this game 2 is absolutely crucial for the Canucks now . . . giving this LA team a 2-0 lead would be too much, I think - especially with their defence, goaltending, and with Vancouver's sometimes fragile psyche.
Well, maybe not the last one, I don't know . . . IS Vancouver's psyche still fragile, even after last year's one game short run? We'll see, especially if the Kings score first.
Stoked to stay up late and watch this one, hopefully the wife lets me 
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
Amazing how quick a "must win game" can sneak up on you eh? Crazy! But it really pretty much is. Can't say it'd be impossible if the Canucks lose tonight, but it sure would be unlikely and difficult!
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 04/13/2012 : 17:42:09
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Last i heard, Daniel Sedin likely won't dress tonight. He was skating today, by himself and it's rumoured now that he either took a turn for the worse, or it's worse than they let on originally.
Most of the talk around here was pretty respectful when the incident occured, but i have to admit, my blood was boiling reading a few yahoo articles where readers can comment. I couldn't believe how many said he was faking it and trying to get Keith a harsher suspension! AND, that he'd be back prob before the playoffs began.  I really wish he was..... |
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vandrew87
Top Prospect
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Posted - 04/13/2012 : 19:03:59
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SO TENSE FOR TONIGHT!!! GO CANUCKS!!
"If you can play, You Can Play" |
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Posted - 04/13/2012 : 21:28:13
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| The way Van is playing you wonder how they even made the playoff's let alone got the presidents trophy. Two shorthanded goals against. Looking more and more like a sweep. Too bad I was kinda hoping for 7 games worth of points from Kopitar, Richards and Williams. Good news for Van is Luongo might make it through the playoffs without getting pulled.. |
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Clatts
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 04/13/2012 : 21:29:36
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3-1 LA with 10 minutes left. This might not be Vancouver year.
With Pitts losing earlier the popular finals prediction of Van v Pitt might be danger
"Most of the guys that wear them are Europeans and French Guys."
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Guest4377
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Posted - 04/13/2012 : 21:33:44
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| So when you're a Flames fan (Clatts), do you just cheer against your arch-rivals when it's playoff time? |
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spade632
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Canada
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Posted - 04/13/2012 : 21:34:01
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Originally posted by Clatts
3-1 LA with 10 minutes left. This might not be Vancouver year.
With Pitts losing earlier the popular finals prediction of Van v Pitt might be danger
"Most of the guys that wear them are Europeans and French Guys."
Don Cherry on Visors
Like the Pens, the Canucks (barring a late comeback) are in big trouble heading to LA. Being down 2-0 in any series isn't an easy place to be AND both the Pens and 'Nucks have lost (or are close to losing) on home ice. |
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Clatts
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Canada
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Posted - 04/13/2012 : 21:37:00
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Wow Canucks are showing their ugly side, they cant score on Quick so they have to try and rough him up. Pathetic.
"Most of the guys that wear them are Europeans and French Guys."
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spade632
Rookie
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Posted - 04/13/2012 : 21:55:44
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4-2 Final.
The Canucks are in big trouble. |
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Guest2769
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Posted - 04/14/2012 : 00:48:26
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| And Canada outside of BC is happy again. Go Kings |
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Posted - 04/14/2012 : 04:56:45
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Originally posted by Clatts
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Originally posted by slozo
Obvious to mention, but this game 2 is absolutely crucial for the Canucks now . . . giving this LA team a 2-0 lead would be too much, I think - especially with their defence, goaltending, and with Vancouver's sometimes fragile psyche.
Well, maybe not the last one, I don't know . . . IS Vancouver's psyche still fragile, even after last year's one game short run? We'll see, especially if the Kings score first.
Stoked to stay up late and watch this one, hopefully the wife lets me
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
During the Playoffs there is no such thing as a wife
"Most of the guys that wear them are Europeans and French Guys."
Don Cherry on Visors
Clearly, you are not married!
I, uh . . . must have missed the game start time somehow, didn't see it guys . . . was this Vancouver playing so-so hockey, or is this all LA? Or a combination of both (as I would describe game 1's result).
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
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Posted - 04/14/2012 : 04:56:45
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Originally posted by Clatts
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Originally posted by slozo
Obvious to mention, but this game 2 is absolutely crucial for the Canucks now . . . giving this LA team a 2-0 lead would be too much, I think - especially with their defence, goaltending, and with Vancouver's sometimes fragile psyche.
Well, maybe not the last one, I don't know . . . IS Vancouver's psyche still fragile, even after last year's one game short run? We'll see, especially if the Kings score first.
Stoked to stay up late and watch this one, hopefully the wife lets me
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
During the Playoffs there is no such thing as a wife
"Most of the guys that wear them are Europeans and French Guys."
Don Cherry on Visors
Clearly, you are not married!
I, uh . . . must have missed the game start time somehow, didn't see it guys . . . was this Vancouver playing so-so hockey, or is this all LA? Or a combination of both (as I would describe game 1's result).
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
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Clatts
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 04/14/2012 : 05:20:56
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So when you're a Flames fan (Clatts), do you just cheer against your arch-rivals when it's playoff time?
I try to watch as many of the playoff games as possible and enjoy cheering for teams that I think are playing good hockey and underdogs . And of course I don't want Vancouver to win. Not just because of the rivalry... I have personal reasons why I don't like the Canucks
"Most of the guys that wear them are Europeans and French Guys."
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Lee Marshall
Rookie
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Posted - 04/14/2012 : 06:25:09
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They sure don't look like they NEED to win. I feel badly for the fans. SO close last year. SO far away from even conteneding this year. And it ain't just Daniel being out either. That'd be a P-poor excuse if that was offered up.
Alain Vigneault house hunting in Montreal yet? This isn't going to fly in Vancouver and he'll be sent packing.
Who the cap fits...Let them wear it. |
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Beans15
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Posted - 04/14/2012 : 07:22:32
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Originally posted by slozo
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Originally posted by Clatts
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Originally posted by slozo
Obvious to mention, but this game 2 is absolutely crucial for the Canucks now . . . giving this LA team a 2-0 lead would be too much, I think - especially with their defence, goaltending, and with Vancouver's sometimes fragile psyche.
Well, maybe not the last one, I don't know . . . IS Vancouver's psyche still fragile, even after last year's one game short run? We'll see, especially if the Kings score first.
Stoked to stay up late and watch this one, hopefully the wife lets me
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
During the Playoffs there is no such thing as a wife
"Most of the guys that wear them are Europeans and French Guys."
Don Cherry on Visors
Clearly, you are not married!
I, uh . . . must have missed the game start time somehow, didn't see it guys . . . was this Vancouver playing so-so hockey, or is this all LA? Or a combination of both (as I would describe game 1's result).
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
I watched most of the game and it was a really great back and forth battle. IMO, this game came down to special teams. LA scored 2 goals on the PK(both by Dustin Brown, remember all the trade talk involving this guy) and another on the PP. I don't think you will see many W's when a team is -2 on their PP!
It really is that in a nut shell. Vancouver has not scored on 10 PP changes, have allowed 2 SH goals, and have given up 3 goals on their PK.
Mike Richards was an absolute beast and the LA forwards continued to beat on the Vancouver defense. Ballard looked horrible most of the time he was on the ice. On the flip side, Vancouver is taking every opportunity to try to crash the net and get something going after the whistle to try to knock the Kings off their game. I don't think it's working as I watched Doughty literally laughing an Hansen when Hansen was going bananas.
Luongo looked great all night with the exception of the Trevor Lewis goal. It is likely Schneider will start in LA but not because Luongo is not playing well. I almost feel bad for the guy. If he played on another team I would certainly feel bad for him.
It goes without saying that Van is in big trouble. I know they have the chops to win 4 of the next 5 games but against a very physical (and confident) LA team and likely without Daniel Sedin for the series, I think it's all but over already.
The Chicago Blackhawks beat the Canucks in these playoffs without even playing them.........
Daniel Alfredsson is the MVP of the universe. All hail the Ottawa Senators!!!!! |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 04/14/2012 : 07:49:15
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Originally posted by slozo
I, uh . . . must have missed the game start time somehow, didn't see it guys . . . was this Vancouver playing so-so hockey, or is this all LA? Or a combination of both (as I would describe game 1's result).
It seems to be both. Vancouver is playing so-so hockey, at least by their standards - lots of missed passes, not using open ice to their advantage, indecisive in the opposing end. However, LA is clearly playing a very good game as well. Their key guys are stepping up, they're playing a good defensive game, and Quick is sharp (46 shots last night).
I missed the last few weeks of the season, but even before I went on vacation, it was obvious that things were not going well in Canuck land. The PP has been virtually non-existent since February. The PK has been struggling since about the same time. The Sedin's had struggled, and all the main forwards had gone through long scoring slumps. Luongo was up and down (although I have to say, he was the best Canuck last night, several key saves at key times). All the things that have made VAN successful over the last couple of seasons were not ticking - and that is never good.
I don't know what to expect going forward. I agree with Beans that VAN has the ability to win 4 of the next 5, but the way they're playing right now and the way LA is playing, it doesn't seem likely. Game 3 is as "must win" as they come - the Canucks are a very good road team, so maybe getting out on the road is what they need. |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 04/14/2012 : 09:10:13
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So far so good in Van as i see it. No fires reported, no looting, no signs of a riot whatsoever! Oh wait, it's not over? Cuz the way the Canucks are playing, it sure as hell should be!
I don't blame coaches often, and i can't claim to be better than him, but i didn't like his lineup changes at all. I liked what i saw from Lapierre on the top line late in the season. He chose Hansen there, who did score, so i'll give him that. I didn't like his insertion of Ballard. This guy hasn't played in months and he throws him into a must win game? I know he played pretty good with Tanev last year, but it still surprised me a bit. Their d was getting pounded the first game, why not get a guy like Alberts in there with some size??? I know he's not fast, but i think the Kings speed i keep hearing about around here is far overrated. EVERYTHING i heard leading up to this series was how Vancouver's skating would be the difference, not LA's! They have some big forwards, and i'm not saying they're slow, but i don't think Alberts would have been exposed any worse than the way the others are playing out there.
Def the PP is killing them like it did vs the Bruins last June. Having Daniel out doesn't help, but these guys are NHL calibre players and playing with the man advantage should net you at least a goal or 2 by now, not 2 against!
Things look really bleak. Sure they can come back. Would i put money (or my avatar ) on it? NOPE. Am i making the bandwagon jump? Never! But it's times like this when expectations are so high, that it's awfully hard to be upbeat regarding your team!  |
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spade632
Rookie
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Posted - 04/14/2012 : 09:31:25
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Originally posted by Alex116
Am i making the bandwagon jump? Never! But it's times like this when expectations are so high, that it's awfully hard to be upbeat regarding your team!
Absolutely. You cheer for your team through thick and thin. It sucks sometimes, but you keep cheering. Still, there's a difference between unreasonable expectations (say, for example, the Cup every year...) and being realistic about chances.
Apart from cheering for your own team, I, as I'm sure many others here, always appreciate great hockey - no matter who's playing. |
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Guest2739
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Posted - 04/14/2012 : 14:46:13
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| Boston lost the first two at home last year( vs Montreal )and it worked out good for them. All is not lost yet for Vancouver but it goes without saying, they need the next one. |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 04/15/2012 : 01:19:07
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| So, it was announed tonight that Daniel Sedin will NOT be making the trip to LA for games 3 and 4 of the Kings / Canucks series. Certainly doesn't help the Canucks comeback chances and DEFINITELY makes anyone who claims Sedin and the Canucks were making the injury seem worse than it was, in an effort to get Keith a harsher suspension, look foolish! |
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Clatts
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 04/15/2012 : 07:05:22
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ya i saw that too, the good thing for the Canucks is that series next 3 games is spread out over 7 days so if he's close he might be back for game 5.
Any thoughts on who is the starting goalie for game 3? I think Luongo hasn't played bad but Van will probably put in Schnider
"Most of the guys that wear them are Europeans and French Guys."
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 04/15/2012 : 07:24:11
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Originally posted by Clatts
ya i saw that too, the good thing for the Canucks is that series next 3 games is spread out over 7 days so if he's close he might be back for game 5.
Any thoughts on who is the starting goalie for game 3? I think Luongo hasn't played bad but Van will probably put in Schnider
"Most of the guys that wear them are Europeans and French Guys."
Don Cherry on Visors
word is they'll start Schneider. No fault to Luongo in either game, he was arguably the best Canuck on the ice in both, but they need to change something and swapping goalies is an easy one. |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 04/15/2012 : 12:16:22
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Clatts, good point about the space between games, but the vibe i get is that he could be done for the year even. I guess with these concussion though, they're just totally unpredictable. I heard he seemed fine but had a setback after a good hard skate. This is similar to what Crosby went through and look how long he was out! Even a guy like Toews missed a couple months didn't he?
As for the goalie, i too think Shneider will get the start in an effort to do something to shake things up. If last game wasn't a must win, this one surely must be! |
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Guest2286
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Posted - 04/16/2012 : 08:37:43
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Well it seems to be all over now. Scnieder played great but the Canucks couldn't score for him. Who goes in net next game? It seems like Scnieder gives the team the best chance to win I would stick with him but maybe they will go back to Lou because he makes the money.
I say screw Lou make a statement the team is staying with Scnieder win or lose Lou needs a new employer.
The D Sedin injury is devastating but LA a couple of years ago put up a better fight without Kopitar than the current Van team and that was before they had Richards and Carter so you can't use that as an excuse.
I think the real problem and I know this will sound a little silly was the Cody Hodgson trade. Think about it, if we still had Hodgson I almost guarantee you the canucks would not be 0/15 or whatever it is on the PP. Cody made a 2nd unit effective but now the canucks only have one unit and Henrik can't get it done. One or two PP goals over these last few games could be the difference and maybe the series would be 2-1 LA or even 2-1 Van if Van had a timely goal or two scored or set up by Cody. Cody was even dangerous on the 4th line Manny can take defensive zone faceoffs Hodson could put the puck in the net on any goalie from the top of the circles. The canucks need a true sniper!
Fire Gillis first the Grabner and a 1st for Ballard trade and now a rookie of the year contender (before the trade) in Hodgson for a prospect sorry Gillis your OUT! The time for the canucks to win is now yet our GM is trading good players for prospects as if we are trying to re build. |
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Clatts
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 04/16/2012 : 09:14:55
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Well it seems to be all over now. Scnieder played great but the Canucks couldn't score for him. Who goes in net next game? It seems like Scnieder gives the team the best chance to win I would stick with him but maybe they will go back to Lou because he makes the money.
I say screw Lou make a statement the team is staying with Scnieder win or lose Lou needs a new employer.
The D Sedin injury is devastating but LA a couple of years ago put up a better fight without Kopitar than the current Van team and that was before they had Richards and Carter so you can't use that as an excuse.
I think the real problem and I know this will sound a little silly was the Cody Hodgson trade. Think about it, if we still had Hodgson I almost guarantee you the canucks would not be 0/15 or whatever it is on the PP. Cody made a 2nd unit effective but now the canucks only have one unit and Henrik can't get it done. One or two PP goals over these last few games could be the difference and maybe the series would be 2-1 LA or even 2-1 Van if Van had a timely goal or two scored or set up by Cody. Cody was even dangerous on the 4th line Manny can take defensive zone faceoffs Hodson could put the puck in the net on any goalie from the top of the circles. The canucks need a true sniper!
Fire Gillis first the Grabner and a 1st for Ballard trade and now a rookie of the year contender (before the trade) in Hodgson for a prospect sorry Gillis your OUT! The time for the canucks to win is now yet our GM is trading good players for prospects as if we are trying to re build.
The reason they went for Kazzian over Hodgson is because you need size to compete in the playoffs and Vancouver management probably pin pointed that as one of the reasons Boston was succsessful last year. I don't think it was a bad trade and it remains to be seen who will have the better career
"Most of the guys that wear them are Europeans and French Guys."
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 04/16/2012 : 09:42:57
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I agree, the Hodgson factor is very minor in regards to where the Canucks find themselves today. He was a 2nd unit PP guy and with the Canucks, the 2nd unit often plays very little because the Sedin's play such a puck possesion game. It's so easy to say that Hodgson would have had goals or points but let's face it, he too would be facing the same J. Quick that his former teammates are! It's not like the Canucks aren't producing chances.
As for Gillis, i'm pretty sure he's not going anywhere and i'm happy with that. AV on the other hand, i can't see him keeping his job without a miracle comeback. I said before the playoffs that he needs to get back to the final or he's likely toast. I don't put all the blame on him, but i don't like some of the moves he's made either and perhaps it's time for a change. Wonder if it will be MacT? |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 04/16/2012 : 17:13:34
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UPDATE......
Daniel Sedin is on his way to LA. It's not 100% certain he will dress for game 4, but he must be close to ready.
Will it be enough to give the Canucks a boost?
Speaking of the Sedin's, did anyone notice the dude in LA right behind the Canucks bench with the t-shirt that said:
"Sedin Sisters"
"Two Girls, No Cup"
Pretty funny actually, even if the video that it references is utterly disturbing!  |
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Clatts
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 04/16/2012 : 18:21:47
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Originally posted by Alex116
Speaking of the Sedin's, did anyone notice the dude in LA right behind the Canucks bench with the t-shirt that said:
"Sedin Sisters"
"Two Girls, No Cup"
Pretty funny actually, even if the video that it references is utterly disturbing!
Thats a common thing to hear when you in the stands at the saddledome during a Canucks/Flames game
"Most of the guys that wear them are Europeans and French Guys."
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