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willus3
Moderator
Canada
1948 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2007 : 06:36:30
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Who has proved to be the dirtiest player through his career?
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hithere311
Rookie
Canada
109 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2007 : 07:28:09
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From from old highlights I've seen, I'd have to say Dave Schultz. |
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PuckNuts
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2414 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2007 : 11:11:58
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Dave "Tiger" Williams
Lead, follow, or get out of the way... |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
8286 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2007 : 18:45:57
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Kasparitis or Samuelsson. |
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PuckNuts
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2414 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2007 : 19:24:23
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Good choices Beans, I was just threw a Leaf player out there to see if I could stimulate some other, or different choices...
My real choice would be Bobby Clarke...as dirty as they come...
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Edited by - PuckNuts on 05/10/2007 19:25:12 |
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willus3
Moderator
Canada
1948 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2007 : 19:51:44
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Early in his career, Chelios was one of the dirtiest I can remember. Gordie Howe was also a mean guy. But with him, usually you deserved it. Tikkanen. Marchment. Schultz Clarke U. Samuelson
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
8286 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2007 : 19:57:35
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Maybe it's my worship of the Oilers, but I don't recall Tikkanen being dirty. A huge pest, but not really dirty. Am I being naive?? |
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andyhack
PickupHockey Pro
Japan
891 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2007 : 21:18:26
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My answer would probably be Bobby Clarke, BUT, it should be noted that, even with Schultz as his bodyguard, Clarke often ended a game with a lot of his own blood on his face or uniform. I'm not defending him (see the 1972 thread), but I would say that, unlike a sneaky premeditated "terminator" like Samuelson, who would then run and hide after his assaults, at least Clarke was an "honest and sincere" axe murderer. |
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fly4apuckguy
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
834 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2007 : 21:24:57
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quote: Originally posted by Beans15
Maybe it's my worship of the Oilers, but I don't recall Tikkanen being dirty. A huge pest, but not really dirty. Am I being naive??
I totally agree. He was a huge pain in the a**, but he wasn't dirty. Two teammates of his, Ken Linesman and Craig Muni, were both dirty players.
It would be tough to argue with Bobby Clark. He was pretty dirty.
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. - Gretz |
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GOWINGS19
Rookie
USA
232 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2007 : 10:24:19
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Ulf 100% dirty
"I don’t need to score the goal. I need someone to start thinking about me and forgetting about scoring goals." -Vladmir Konstantinov |
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99pickles
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
671 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2007 : 02:42:10
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Yes, let's not confuse 'dirty' with 'pesky' or 'agitating'. Also, you can't see it on tv, but most players are doing something dirty out there. That being said, Tikkanen, Kenny Linseman, Theo Fleury were all fantastic agitaters. But Ulf, Marchment and ,sadly, on at least one occasion, Bobby Clarke were actually dirty and broke the code. |
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Buick92
Top Prospect
Canada
73 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2007 : 15:41:09
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samuelsson was so dirty and he tried to make it as if he wasnt, i was glad to see domi punch his lights out |
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Saku Steen
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1102 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2007 : 16:13:03
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Claude Lemuiex was pretty dirty. Didnt he always duck when someone came at him? Any player who does that is dirty. |
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leafsfan_101
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1530 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2007 : 18:19:47
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Definatly Darius Kasparitus. Anyone who is willing to try a knee on knee hit is dirty in my books.
When life gives you lemons throw them at the Ottawa Senators and their fans and hope it gets them in the eyes ;) |
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Leafs Rock Planet
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
902 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2007 : 18:25:49
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quote: Originally posted by leafsfan_101
Definatly Darius Kasparitus. Anyone who is willing to try a knee on knee hit is dirty in my books.
Its for sure Darius Kasparitus. He is not only dirty but sometimes does not have much respect for other players on the ice.
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willus3
Moderator
Canada
1948 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2007 : 19:18:05
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quote: Originally posted by 99pickles
Yes, let's not confuse 'dirty' with 'pesky' or 'agitating'. Also, you can't see it on tv, but most players are doing something dirty out there. That being said, Tikkanen, Kenny Linseman, Theo Fleury were all fantastic agitaters. But Ulf, Marchment and ,sadly, on at least one occasion, Bobby Clarke were actually dirty and broke the code.
I'm not confusing anything. If you don't think Tikkanen was dirty go back and watch a few Oilers games. He was as dirty with his stick as anyone I've seen.
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99pickles
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
671 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2007 : 09:41:52
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quote: Originally posted by willus3
quote: Originally posted by 99pickles
Yes, let's not confuse 'dirty' with 'pesky' or 'agitating'. Also, you can't see it on tv, but most players are doing something dirty out there. That being said, Tikkanen, Kenny Linseman, Theo Fleury were all fantastic agitaters. But Ulf, Marchment and ,sadly, on at least one occasion, Bobby Clarke were actually dirty and broke the code.
I'm not confusing anything. If you don't think Tikkanen was dirty go back and watch a few Oilers games. He was as dirty with his stick as anyone I've seen.
"You are not your desktop wallpaper"
I don't need to go back and watch a few games , my memory is quite fine.
I just don't agree that he was dirty - I feel that he was a pesky agitator that fell under the category of "you hated him unless he was on your team - then you loved him". |
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GOWINGS19
Rookie
USA
232 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2007 : 11:48:36
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quote: Originally posted by Saku Steen
Claude Lemuiex was pretty dirty. Didnt he always duck when someone came at him? Any player who does that is dirty.
yeah he had the patented turtle move whenever someone was coming to beat his ass
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I´m also Cånädiön
Rookie
Sweden
217 Posts |
Posted - 05/20/2007 : 13:38:03
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Any Canadian will do... |
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stastnysforever
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
301 Posts |
Posted - 05/20/2007 : 13:44:00
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Bobby Clarke was dirty, but I hate Todd Bertuzzi for that hit on Moore, that was just cheap |
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ultimatetitman
Rookie
Canada
244 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2007 : 13:12:50
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Bryan Marchment! How many times did that dirty SOB intentionally try to take out an opponents knee?
"I didn't know Sedin was Swedish for punch me"-Brian Burke, 2002 |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2007 : 13:22:35
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Ulf Samuelsson and Bobby Clarke.
Chelios used to be kinda rough, but in his old age he's mellowed some. |
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SlowShot
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
264 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2007 : 13:46:52
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quote: Originally posted by Mikhailova
Ulf Samuelsson and Bobby Clarke.
Chelios used to be kinda rough, but in his old age he's mellowed some.
I agree Ulf and Bobby where both the dirtiest |
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chooch
Top Prospect
Afghanistan
60 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2007 : 17:11:52
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quote: Originally posted by SlowShot
quote: Originally posted by Mikhailova
Ulf Samuelsson and Bobby Clarke.
Chelios used to be kinda rough, but in his old age he's mellowed some.
I agree Ulf and Bobby where both the dirtiest
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tctitans
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
931 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2007 : 17:39:28
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I'm surprised it took so long from someone to mention Marchment - he's definately up there. For me, It would be a faceoff between Marchment and Samuelsson. |
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99pickles
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
671 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2007 : 03:48:47
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I can't disrespect Bobby Clarke by even mentioning his name in the same sentence as Ulf. There are a small collection of players who were dirtbags that you wouldn't even want on your team. Ulf, Kasparaitus, Marchment are charter members in this classless club. Tiger Williams and Dave the Hammer are not even remotely the same thing as those pieces of work. These guys were pugilists and they filled a role/need. They also operated with a certain code of honour. |
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