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stastnysforever
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
301 Posts |
 Posted - 06/03/2007 : 14:11:00
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Who would you pick to be on your team canada, you can pick retired players to
what do Calgary and a tea bag have in common- they're both only good for one cup
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stastnysforever
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
301 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2007 : 14:25:42
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Offense
Lecavalier-Gretzky-Cheechoo
Esposito-Messier-Henderson
Heatly-Sakic-Iginla
Crosby-Messier-Paul Stastny
Defense
Orr-Coffey
Neidermayer-Pronger
Stevens-Blake
Goalies
Esposito
Dryden
Roy
what do Calgary and a tea bag have in common- they're both only good for one cup |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2007 : 19:15:46
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Wow...I never noticed this topic. Sorry Stastny!
Who would I pick for my dream Team Canada? The worst players possible so the US would have a major obstacle removed in their quest for gold  . Kidding.
Were I to manage this dream Team Canada I'd probably go with
Messier-Gretzky-Lemieux
Esposito-Clarke-Howe
Richard-Heatley-Mahovlich
Crosby-Sakic-Lindros
Orr-Coffey
Clancy-Harvey
Niedermayer-Pronger
Dryden
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stastnysforever
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
301 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2007 : 20:00:05
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Which Mahovlich?
avs are gonna win the cup this year |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2007 : 07:03:24
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
8286 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2007 : 08:52:41
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Lemieux-Gretzky-Messier
Howe-M.Richard-Bobby Hull
Clarke-Esposito-Brett Hull(yes, he was born in Canada!)
Sakic-Yzerman-Lefleur
Orr-Bourque
Coffey-Robinson
Neidermayer-Park
Roy
Brodeur
I Love your Kids, IHC is the man, and The Oilers Rule. Does that make me insane?? |
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PuckNuts
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2414 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2007 : 09:22:16
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FORWARDS
M. Lemieux - W. Gretzky - Bobby Hull
M. Bossy - M. Richard - G. Howe
M. Messier - P. Esposito - J. Sakic
E. Lach - M. Dionne - S. Yzerman
DEFENSE
B. Orr - D. Harvey
T. Horton - L. Robinson
R. Bourque - P. Coffey
GOALIES
M. Brodeur
P. Roy
EDIT - You can tell your age by the team you pick...
I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
8286 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2007 : 10:32:39
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The age thing I totally agree with. For example, Cheechoo doesn't make most current all star teams.
I missed Bossy and Harvey. I would put Harvey in over Park and Bossy in over Yzerman.
I Love your Kids, IHC is the man, and The Oilers Rule. Does that make me insane?? |
Edited by - Beans15 on 07/12/2007 07:56:26 |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2007 : 11:17:51
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| PuckNuts I love you! HaHa Just kidding but honestley I respect you so much for putting Elmer Lach on you're team. He is my third cousin and grew up in Nokomis where my mom is from. He was a major reason for Maurice Richard's success. Good Job PuckNuts. |
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PuckNuts
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2414 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2007 : 11:41:26
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There is a method to my madness for adding him to my list...
Clue...
I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan
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stastnysforever
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
301 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2007 : 13:47:19
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I should change my first and fourth lines to: Lecavalier-Gretzky-Messier
and Crosby-Paul stastny-Cheechoo for chemistry, the way I see it you don't want a bunch of great playmakers who don't know how to score, or a bunch of guys who can all score but don't know jhow to pass the puck, and the only reason Iginla is in there is because he goes great with sakic
avs are gonna win the cup this year |
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willus3
Moderator
Canada
1948 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2007 : 18:26:00
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Bobby Hull, Mario Lemieux, Gordie Howe
Paul Coffey, Wayne Gretzky, Mike Bossy
Michel Goulet, Mark Messier, Guy Lafleur
Steve Yzerman, Jean Beliveau, Maurice Richard
Bobby Orr, Brad Park
Doug Harvey, Denis Potvin
Larry Robinson, Eddie Shore
Ken Dryden
Patrick Roy
"You are not your desktop wallpaper" |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2007 : 20:01:17
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quote:
Originally posted by PuckNuts
There is a method to my madness for adding him to my list...
Clue...
I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan
All I know is Elmer Lach is a playmaker, is Marcel Dionne or Steve Yzerman snipers in your mind? Sorry I wouldn't know I'm too young. |
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stastnysforever
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
301 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2007 : 20:25:24
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quote:
Originally posted by willus3
Bobby Hull, Mario Lemieux, Gordie Howe
Paul Coffey, Wayne Gretzky, Mike Bossy
Michel Goulet, Mark Messier, Guy Lafleur
Steve Yzerman, Jean Beliveau, Maurice Richard
Bobby Orr, Brad Park
Doug Harvey, Denis Potvin
Larry Robinson, Eddie Shore
Ken Dryden
Patrick Roy
"You are not your desktop wallpaper"
why would you have paul coffey playing forward?
avs are gonna win the cup this year |
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willus3
Moderator
Canada
1948 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2007 : 21:07:35
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quote:
Originally posted by stastnysforever
quote:
Originally posted by willus3
Bobby Hull, Mario Lemieux, Gordie Howe
Paul Coffey, Wayne Gretzky, Mike Bossy
Michel Goulet, Mark Messier, Guy Lafleur
Steve Yzerman, Jean Beliveau, Maurice Richard
Bobby Orr, Brad Park
Doug Harvey, Denis Potvin
Larry Robinson, Eddie Shore
Ken Dryden
Patrick Roy
"You are not your desktop wallpaper"
why would you have paul coffey playing forward?
avs are gonna win the cup this year
On my team he would be a winger.
"You are not your desktop wallpaper" |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2007 : 22:59:20
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quote:
Originally posted by willus3
quote:
Originally posted by stastnysforever
quote:
Originally posted by willus3
Bobby Hull, Mario Lemieux, Gordie Howe
Paul Coffey, Wayne Gretzky, Mike Bossy
Michel Goulet, Mark Messier, Guy Lafleur
Steve Yzerman, Jean Beliveau, Maurice Richard
Bobby Orr, Brad Park
Doug Harvey, Denis Potvin
Larry Robinson, Eddie Shore
Ken Dryden
Patrick Roy
"You are not your desktop wallpaper"
why would you have paul coffey playing forward?
avs are gonna win the cup this year
On my team he would be a winger.
"You are not your desktop wallpaper"
Haha can you explain why Willus? |
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PuckNuts
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2414 Posts |
Posted - 07/11/2007 : 07:07:57
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All I know is Elmer Lach is a playmaker, is Marcel Dionne or Steve Yzerman snipers in your mind? Sorry I wouldn't know I'm too young.
Yes I would say that Elmer Lach was a top assist man...
Snipers for Yzerman, and Dionne, I think so...
Yzerman 60+ Goals twice
50+ goals 3 times, and a total of 692...
Dionne 50+ goals six times
40+ goals 4 times, and a total of 731...
I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
8286 Posts |
Posted - 07/11/2007 : 09:29:30
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Paul Coffey would have been an amazing winger. With his speed and stick handling ability, it would have been like watching Denis Savard. Coffey also had a decent shot. I think he would have been a 60-70 goal scorer as a forward playing with Gretzky or Lemieux.
I Love your Kids, IHC is the man, and The Oilers Rule. Does that make me insane?? |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 07/11/2007 : 15:01:09
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quote:
Originally posted by PuckNuts
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All I know is Elmer Lach is a playmaker, is Marcel Dionne or Steve Yzerman snipers in your mind? Sorry I wouldn't know I'm too young.
Yes I would say that Elmer Lach was a top assist man...
Snipers for Yzerman, and Dionne, I think so...
Yzerman 60+ Goals twice
50+ goals 3 times, and a total of 692...
Dionne 50+ goals six times
40+ goals 4 times, and a total of 731...
I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan
Why wouldn't you play Elmer Lach with Maurice Richard since they had good chemistrey? |
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PuckNuts
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2414 Posts |
Posted - 07/11/2007 : 20:06:07
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Why wouldn't you play Elmer Lach with Maurice Richard since they had good chemistry?
I based my lines on the best to last...the first line being the best, and so on...
If I had to pick lines that played together then I would have selected the G.A.G. line as my number one line...
I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 07/11/2007 : 22:29:21
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| If you were doing other good lines the ''French Connection'' line would be good. |
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SlowShot
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
264 Posts |
Posted - 07/11/2007 : 22:53:57
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Bobby Hull, Mario Lemieux, Gordie Howe
Brian Trottier, Wayne Gretzky, Mike Bossy
Phill Espisito, Mark Messier, Marcel dionne Guy Lafleur,Jean Beliveau, Maurice Richard
Bobby Orr, Eddie Shore
Ray Bourque, Denis Potvin
Tim Horton, Larry Robinson
Broduer
Broda
Pickup hockey pool |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
8286 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2007 : 07:58:09
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Last time I checked, Brian Leetch is American.
Still a great hockey player, but you might have a hard time getting him on this team!
I Love your Kids, IHC is the man, and The Oilers Rule. Does that make me insane?? |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2007 : 09:58:39
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quote:
Originally posted by Beans15
Still a great hockey player, but you might have a hard time getting him on this team!
I'll take him 
If I made a GOAT US team...
Leetch-M. Johnson-Roenick
Modano-Broten-Morrow
D. Christian-LaFountaine-Ramsey
Drury-Cole-Tkachuk
Chelios-Suter
Housley-M. Howe
Brimsek
Miller
It's not as powerful as a GOAT Canadian team, but it's not bad |
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willus3
Moderator
Canada
1948 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2007 : 12:01:34
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quote:
Originally posted by Mikhailova
quote:
Originally posted by Beans15
Still a great hockey player, but you might have a hard time getting him on this team!
I'll take him
If I made a GOAT US team...
Leetch-M. Johnson-Roenick
Modano-Broten-Morrow
D. Christian-LaFountaine-Ramsey
Drury-Cole-Tkachuk
Chelios-Suter
Housley-M. Howe
Brimsek
Miller
It's not as powerful as a GOAT Canadian team, but it's not bad
So you're moving a d-man up to wing on your team too?
"You are not your desktop wallpaper" |
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SlowShot
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
264 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2007 : 12:09:55
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quote:
Originally posted by Beans15
Last time I checked, Brian Leetch is American.
Still a great hockey player, but you might have a hard time getting him on this team!
I Love your Kids, IHC is the man, and The Oilers Rule. Does that make me insane??
 Ya i kinda forgot since he is one of my all time most favorite players i kinda like to know him as canadian! I guess than Ill fill in his posistion with larry robinson.
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willus3
Moderator
Canada
1948 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2007 : 14:13:50
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quote:
Originally posted by SlowShot
quote:
Originally posted by Beans15
Last time I checked, Brian Leetch is American.
Still a great hockey player, but you might have a hard time getting him on this team!
I Love your Kids, IHC is the man, and The Oilers Rule. Does that make me insane??
Ya i kinda forgot since he is one of my all time most favorite players i kinda like to know him as canadian! I guess than Ill fill in his posistion with larry robinson.
Pickup hockey pool
Robinson is a far better choice anyway.
"You are not your desktop wallpaper" |
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willus3
Moderator
Canada
1948 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2007 : 14:16:37
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Haha can you explain why Willus?
See Beans response. He pretty much nailed it.
"You are not your desktop wallpaper" |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2007 : 10:27:58
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| If Coffey would have been so good in the forward position why did he play defence? Why didn't a coach regonize his skill he could have up front? |
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willus3
Moderator
Canada
1948 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2007 : 10:54:09
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quote:
Originally posted by PainTrain
If Coffey would have been so good in the forward position why did he play defence? Why didn't a coach regonize his skill he could have up front?
Not sure, but Scotty Bowman did recognize his lack of ability on defense.
"You are not your desktop wallpaper" |
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Kashmire
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
506 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2007 : 12:01:41
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FORWARDS
M. Lemeiux - W. Gretzky - G. Howe
M. Bossy - J. Thornton - Bobby Hull
S. Yzerman - P. Esposito - J. Sakic
M. Messier - M. Dionne - A. Oates
DEFENSE
B. Orr - D. Harvey
R. Bourque - B. Park
B. Gainey - S. Stevens
GOALIES
G. Hainsworth
P. Roy
M. Brodeur (3 since this is for the Olympics..right?) |
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PuckNuts
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2414 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2007 : 12:11:11
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Another position switch...B. Gainey on Defense...
Just curious why ?
I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan
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Kashmire
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
506 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2007 : 13:02:21
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| Heh, just following the trend. He is practically a defensemen already. He was made for defense. If we were sticking to positions His spot would have been for Eddie Shore or Scott Neidermayer. All this long with the fact that I highly doubt he can play with the other forwards on my list. He would slow down the pace and provide less scoring effort. |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
8286 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2007 : 17:03:56
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I am thinking that Sather did not move Coffey up because he didn't have room up front for Coffey to get any effective ice time. He would have been playing behind Gretzky, Anderson, Messier, and Kurri at least. You had to throw Semenko out there to protect the kids too. So Coffey would have been 2nd line at best.
The Oilers basically played with 4 forwards and a d-man through the 80's as their premier line. Many, many times there were two on one's against the Oilers with only Huddy and Fuhr left to defend.
God I miss those 7-5 shoot outs every night. That was seriously fun to watch!
I Love your Kids, IHC is the man, and The Oilers Rule. Does that make me insane?? |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2007 : 22:36:19
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Wow you old guy's are so smart I tell all this stuff to my dad and he says where do you learn this and I say ''Uhmm I read a lot''
So from what I hear Coffey is someone who could play forward but played defence, but on defence he would decide to jump into the rush witch would turn around into a quick 2 on 1. Was Coffey a great tape to tape passer like Thomas Kaberle? Would he ever kill penalties? I'm just really curious about this guy. |
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Posted - 07/14/2007 : 07:31:00
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quote:
Originally posted by PainTrain
Wow you old guy's are so smart I tell all this stuff to my dad and he says where do you learn this and I say ''Uhmm I read a lot''
So from what I hear Coffey is someone who could play forward but played defence, but on defence he would decide to jump into the rush witch would turn around into a quick 2 on 1. Was Coffey a great tape to tape passer like Thomas Kaberle? Would he ever kill penalties? I'm just really curious about this guy.
He was the fastest player on the ice when he played. Arguably the fastest skater of all time. So smooth, think Scott Nieds smooth but faster.
With his speed he was useful on PK and was used for it though not as the primary unit. Remember he can play D just that he chose to float to the offensive side alot and use his speed to get back in time. Sometimes he succeeded sometime he didn't.
Seems like some of those who slag his D skills just don't like the fact that he tended to play O alot rather than being a stay at home D. That and he played with three of the most dominant offensive force in the last 20 years (Wayne, Mario and Jagr). His abilities complements the offense or the offense complimented his abilities that is to be argued. But he was an above average D-man with incredible offensive capabilites. Some say he's top 10 of all time defensemen, some say top 20, others (Willus) thinks he's crap defender and couldn't hold Orr's jock strap.
Kaberle couldn't hold Coffey's jock strap, IMHO. |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
8286 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2007 : 10:13:29
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I agree that Kaberle couldn't hold Coffey's jock, but there isn't a d-man in history that can even come close to Orr. So I agree with Willus and Coffey couldn't hold Orrs jock simple because no player to this point could hold Orr's jock. Coffey was an average defenseman at best. Some think he was horrible, but I wouldn't go that far. He is definately not in the Hall of Fame for the same reasons Larry Robinson is. Being a huge 80's Oilers fan, I can easily say that Coffey was average, but nothing more than that. Maybe he could have been, but he wasn't. It just wasn't his playing style.
Speed wise, without question, Coffey is near or at the top. His passing wasn't amazing, but it was better than most. He was more of a take a break out pass at his blue line from Huddy and be in the opposition goalies face before the other teams defense had a clue what happened.
Many a goal that way or on the end to end rush. Also, he was magical at following the play. Gretzky, Kurri, and what ever guy they had on the other wing (Messier, Anderson, Semenko, Tikkanen) would break out three on two, and Coffey was brilliant at being that fourth guy into the play. Many of the players that are good at that today I would say learned that from guys like Coffey. It was effective offensively, but did create tons (and I mean tons) of two on one's the other way. It's good that Fuhr was the best goalie in the world at the time, and he saved many a Coffey pinch.
Man I miss that Oilers team.
I Love your Kids, IHC is the man, and The Oilers Rule. Does that make me insane?? |
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Gaint Robot
Top Prospect
Canada
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Posted - 07/19/2007 : 21:13:10
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| no one can hold Orr's jock strap maybe Howie, and say hmmmmmmmm, his son's yeah they could do it. |
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Gaint Robot
Top Prospect
Canada
16 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2007 : 21:15:10
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| i don't have a dream canadian team yet, i'll have to think about this for a few month's. |
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willus3
Moderator
Canada
1948 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2007 : 09:23:38
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quote:
Originally posted by PainTrain
Wow you old guy's are so smart I tell all this stuff to my dad and he says where do you learn this and I say ''Uhmm I read a lot''
So out of curiosity, who does your Dad think is the best ever?
"You are not your desktop wallpaper" |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2007 : 12:12:05
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quote:
Originally posted by willus3
quote:
Originally posted by PainTrain
Wow you old guy's are so smart I tell all this stuff to my dad and he says where do you learn this and I say ''Uhmm I read a lot''
So out of curiosity, who does your Dad think is the best ever?
"You are not your desktop wallpaper"
Best player ever, he thinks that Bobby Orr is the best. Same reason that you said in the other discussion, he was just a complete player. Bobby Orr's the only reason my dad started to play hockey witch made me start to play hockey. |
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