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SlowShot
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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 Posted - 07/01/2007 : 18:54:54
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Poll Question:
Who do you think will be on the Sundin and Blake line will be?
I love Charles Wang
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Kashmire
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
506 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2007 : 19:01:07
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| Wellwood. Any other line would waste his talent. |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2007 : 22:08:05
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| Poni, because he'll get the work done in the corners. |
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PuckNuts
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2414 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2007 : 06:16:47
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Last year it was tough to get the puck from Sundin, Poni, and Antropov when they were cycling the puck down low. Mats had 27 goals, his lowest output since the 94-95 season where he played only 47 games, and the Leafs never made the playoffs.
That type of play will not win you the Cup, they need a Wellwood on that line to feed either Mats or Blake...
I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan
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Leafsfan_94
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1070 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2007 : 17:55:57
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My picks are tucker stajan or wellwood
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Kashmire
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
506 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2007 : 18:41:09
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Tucker should be on the 3rd line... He is a terrible even strength player and hsould be on a checking line with Peca and Kilger! It's also too late too say. JFJ is going to make some more trades. If not a blockbuster he is going to trade some forwards for some more speed and grit. |
Edited by - Kashmire on 07/31/2007 18:46:09 |
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leafsfan_101
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1530 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 10:36:52
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I'd like poni there because he is a big guy. Blake is somewhat small and Sundin is big but will be passing to Blake alot. Poni would benefit from the line and the line would benefit from Poni.
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 10:57:52
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quote:
Originally posted by Kashmire
Tucker should be on the 3rd line... He is a terrible even strength player and hsould be on a checking line with Peca and Kilger! It's also too late too say. JFJ is going to make some more trades. If not a blockbuster he is going to trade some forwards for some more speed and grit.
I like that idea of Tucker,Peca and Kilger on a checking line. With that it could give young gun Alex Steen some more playing time.
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leigh
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 08/01/2007 : 17:01:03
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Well considering that Sundin plays center and Blake plays left then you probably want to choose a right winger for the job. So that only leaves Tucker from your list.
Stajan - C
Wellwood - C
Steen - C
Antorpov - C
Ponikarovski - L
Of course some guys can play other positions but given the choices in the poll I would say Tucker. |
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Kashmire
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
506 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 17:22:57
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Apparantly PM says he is predicting it to start out as
Blake - Sundin - Antrapov
Also, I don't know if you knew Leigh but Tucker was a left winger but is able to play both. His lack of size and speed will probably make him a constant pest and I think that could possibly get in the way of the goal producing. I think we should grab Peca, trade a small forward preferably Devereaux or Pohl(maybe both) and get that checking line I mentioned on another topic.
Kilger - Peca - Tucker
This would give Tucker the chance to work on his checking and two-way playing.
Line up for 07/08 as of now:
Blake - Sundin - Antrapov
Ponikarovsky - Wellwood - Steen/Tucker
Kilger - Stajan - Bell/Tucker
Battaglia - Pohl - Devereaux/Tucker
Somone will be getting moved down for Tucker.
Defense is hard to predict but the slots are Kaberle/McCabe/Colaiacavo/White/Gill/Kubina
Toskala
Raycroft
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PuckNuts
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2414 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 18:26:08
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quote:
Originally posted by Kashmire
Line up for 07/08 as of now:
Blake - Sundin - Antrapov
Ponikarovsky - Wellwood - Steen/Tucker
Kilger - Stajan - Bell/Tucker
Battaglia - Pohl - Devereaux/Tucker
Somone will be getting moved down for Tucker.
Defense is hard to predict but the slots are Kaberle/McCabe/Colaiacavo/White/Gill/Kubina
Toskala
Raycroft
That is not a bad line up, but remember the Leafs signed Tucker for 3.0 Mil, he will never be on the third, or fourth line...
Blake - Sundin - Ponikarovsky
Antropov - Wellwood - Tucker
Kilger - Steen - Bell
Battaglia - Pohl/ Stajan - Devereaux
Kaberle/Kubina
McCabe/Colaiacovo
White/Gill
Toskala
Raycroft
If the Leafs decide to sign Peca then they will move either Steen, Stajan or Pohl...Belak will be put on waivers...
I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan
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Kashmire
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
506 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 19:01:30
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Good point on Tucker but, I already knew that. Thought he could be used on the PP more. His 5 on 5 play hurts his possibilities though he might be able to play with Wellwood. They had chemistry for a bit last year.
I'm also hoping we trade for bargaining rights on Cammalleri. He is really talented, though I think he might be a little gready for an "A" and seems like he isn't too nice a guy. I can't see why else LA isn't wanting to make a deal and I think I recollect about his attitude not being great. I'm not sold on the idea but I think he would be good for the "One, Two Punch" line up. |
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PuckNuts
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2414 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 19:07:45
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We already had our chance at Cammalleri, we traded his draft rights to LA for Aki Berg, and we know how that turned out...He is not in the cards for the Leafs...
I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan
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Kashmire
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
506 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 19:11:59
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We didn't know he was going to be picked when we gave him away though. He wasn't a huge pick people were after... I don't think it's rught to rule him out just because of that. Him and Wellwood would probbaly have great chemistry and it would be a huge move for the leafs if they were to lock him up in a long term extension.. Imagine this,
Wellwood, Cammalleri, Tlusty, Kulemin
Colaiacavo, Kronwall, Stralman, White, maybe Harrison, and if his heart isn't hurting his game Pilar
Pogge
That is a bright future... and a few current guys should be in that too. |
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PuckNuts
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2414 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 19:18:37
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Just curious, what makes you think that Wellwood, and Cammalleri will have good chemistry, they may, but do you think LA is going to give him up, they are building for the next two years, and they seem to have a good foundation that includes Cammalleri...
We will have to give way too much to make it a worthy trade...
I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan
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Kashmire
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
506 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 20:22:51
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I don't want to trade for Cammalleri, PuckNuts. I am quite aware of the leafs position. We have a strong, big roster and we could do many things next year too, I know we don't need rentals. I suggest to trade LA for the RIGHTS to deal with him. It looks like LA and Mike aren't very friendly at all right now. They haven't even spoken. No calls have been made. If they don't sign then I fully support going after the rights to him. If he is signed then I wouldn't want to get him. As you say, he is too expensive.
Now the Wellwood deal. Mike's stats show that with 35 goals on the Kings last season he is capable of finding the back of the net, along with setting up plays effectively for linemates as can Wellwood. Wellwood is very versitile and can play with alot of people. He also has the same skill set as Camm. I would bet they fit nicely on a line together. Even if they don't there are more possibilities.
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PuckNuts
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2414 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 20:36:48
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He is arbitration at the moment, and who said they are not talking?
We would have to give up a first round , and a third round choice to sign him. (Over $2,3M to $3,5M) according to NHL.com Free agent signings...That is what I think he will be offered from the arbitrator...
Now who do we move for Cap space, and roster positions...We are already too close to the cap limit to be able to sign more players...
You can not trade for a player in arbitration...
I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan
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Kashmire
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
506 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 21:04:43
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| I don't think the Kings are planning on re-signing him. He will want top dollars and with the new UFA's they brought in they don't need his offense too much. He is going to want 5-6 million and if they give him that then what will Kopitar ask for? |
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PuckNuts
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2414 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 21:33:33
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Kopitar will not be a RFA until 2009-10...he is at 956,000 as a cap hit...
LA Kings are about 7 mil under the cap this season...
http://www.nhlnumbers.com/lak.html
I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan
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Kashmire
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
506 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 21:35:42
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PuckNuts
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2414 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 21:47:30
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But take a look at all the teams, and you will see that most teams are in the same boat...
Many players are signed during the season, or have extensions to their contract...they are not all that bad, look at the Rangers...
I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan
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leigh
Moderator
Canada
1755 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2007 : 11:49:54
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quote:
Originally posted by Kashmire
...Also, I don't know if you knew Leigh but Tucker was a left winger but is able to play both...
Didn't know that Kash. Thanks. I pulled the positions from NHL.com. I knew Wellwood played center mostly so I looked up the other guys to see too.
I think Wellwood is amazing and I hope he keeps getting chances, that kid shows flashes of absolute brilliance. Plus I'm 5'8" so I'm a fan of the smaller guys in the NHL. haha! |
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Kashmire
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
506 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2007 : 13:40:39
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Hah, Leigh. Yeah, Wellwood is really something and I'm starting to think we don't need Cammalleri
Also, maybe Steen should wplay with Blake and Sundin. He plays pretty smart and should be good. This vid isn't great quality but it's great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hkFxe1WNJQ
That's Steen. Not NHL but still pretty damn good. |
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Sundin, Blake and who? 
