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admin
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Posted - 07/24/2007 :  13:27:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Poll Question:
Ray Emery signed with the Ottawa Senators for 3 more years averaging $3.16 million per year. Is he worth it?

Choices:

He is over-paid!
They got it just right.
He is under-paid!

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Posted - 07/24/2007 :  13:32:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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PainTrain
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Posted - 07/24/2007 :  14:16:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't think he is worth anymore than what he's getting rite now. To me he's just an average goalie who can fight.
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OILINONTARIO
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Posted - 07/24/2007 :  15:54:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He is being rewarded for backstopping the Sens to the final, as he should be. Remember, he was supposed to be Gerber's backup this year, and he proved himself to be a legitimate no. 1 guy. He would be making that money soon, elsewhere, if the deal hadn't been done, so good for him, and good for the Sens- if they still have cap space for both Spezza and Heatley.
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Beans15
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Posted - 07/25/2007 :  10:40:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I personally think that rewarding a goalie for playing well over a short period of time(ie, the Playoffs) is a poor hockey decisions. Look at Theodore as a perfect example. He got huge money for playing well over a short period of time and now he is hardly a back up. Gerber is another. He had one decent season. That's doesn't mean it will last. Anyone remember a vezina winner named Jim Carey?? What ever happened to him. One good season does not an elite goalie make.

Not saying Emery fits in this catagory. I think he is a fine young goalie. To think he is in the $3.5 ish a year mark that puts him in a catagory with goalies like Roloson, Backstrom, Mason, Miller, Huet, Biron, and Ward. Not really the elite of the league, but capable starting goalies. I think he belongs in this group, so the money is justified in my opinion.

I Love your Kids, IHC is the man, and The Oilers Rule. Does that make me insane??
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OILINONTARIO
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Posted - 07/25/2007 :  15:48:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Theodore, Gerber and Carey have never backstopped any team to the final. What Emery did for the Sens is much bigger than winning the Vezina, or Calder, or Jennings, or just having a really good regular season. I'm sure there are better examples that you could come up with as far as goaltenders who have done what Emery has. These three have not.
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Beans15
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Posted - 07/26/2007 :  10:56:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
But was it that Emery was that good or the team in front of him that good. It's not like he played a Roy in 86 type playoff. He just did his job. I don't recall him really stealing any games that Ottawa should have lost had it not been for Emery.

Roloson and Ward are perfect examples. Both backstopped their teams to the finals and both got big increases the next year. And neither could get their teams back to the playoffs.

In honesty, do you think that Emery will be or has been he key to Ottawa's success?? I don't. Solid young goalie without questions, but an elite player who is the "game stealing" type I just don't see.

I Love your Kids, IHC is the man, and The Oilers Rule. Does that make me insane??
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OILINONTARIO
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Posted - 07/26/2007 :  16:29:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't neccesarily beleive that Emery is a "game stealer", and I do agree that his team served him well, but to be as stable as he has been behind Hasek and (apparently) Gerber, he has proven himself over the course of two seasons. I would hate for the OILERS to sign him at that contract, but he'd be worth it for many teams around the league. Kudos to the Sens for giving him that confidence!
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Posted - 07/27/2007 :  08:03:24  Reply with Quote
Compare to the NHL market for goalies, Emery signing is pretty good.
If you were a GM, how much would you be willing to pay for the following goalies?

Yr GP MIN GA SO GAA W L T SVS SV%
Goalie #1
2005-06 43 2524 115 2 2.67 14 24 5 1141 0.899
2006-07 68 3932 180 4 2.75 27 34 6 1789 0.909
Goalie #2
2005-06 28 1484 91 0 3.68 14 8 2 682 0.882
2006-07 60 3422 167 2 2.93 30 21 6 1458 0.897
Goalie #3
2005-06 39 2168 102 3 2.82 23 11 4 943 0.902
2006-07 58 3351 138 5 2.47 33 16 6 1553 0.918
Goalie #4
2005-06 60 3493 162 3 2.78 38 14 6 1557 0.906
2006-07 29 1599 74 1 2.78 15 9 3 710 0.906
Goalie #5
2005-06 53 3112 116 2 2.24 30 12 9 1369 0.922
2006-07 70 4109 160 5 2.34 37 22 8 1767 0.917
Goalie #6
2005-06 68 3910 166 3 2.55 41 19 5 1458 0.898
2006-07 67 3764 140 6 2.23 38 20 5 1424 0.91

See if you can figure out who is who. Answers to follow. Neither one is Brodeur, Kipper or Luongo.
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Leafsgirl 48
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Posted - 07/27/2007 :  08:44:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think that Bryan Murray got it just right with the signing of Sugar Ray. He is a developing goaltender in the league and at this salary he will be worth every penny that he is making.

Leafs Rule!!!!!!!
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leafsfan_101
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Canada
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Posted - 07/28/2007 :  18:56:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I like the deal. Ottawa has a problem now with two goalies making a total of 6 mil. This definatly handicaps them for next year with trying to sign Spezza and Heatley.

Second place is only first place of the losers.
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